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Follow Egypt's Big Day As Millions Take To The Streets

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Update: Semi-automatic gunfire now heard in Alexandria.

For Egypt, it is now or never. With millions out on the streets in Cairo and other cities, the Egyptian population will likely not have another chance at such a massive showing of popular expression of anger against President Mubarak. For those who wish to follow today's million man march, can do so at the usual places: the Al Jazeera blog, the video feed below, the Guardian blog, real time mappable tweets, and of course, the video feed below.


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Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:09 | 923139 NewThor
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Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:04 | 923403 pan-the-ist
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Yesterday NPR stated that Israel is contacting its allies to inform them that they are supposed to support Mubarak.  Today all of the NPR reporting is 'framed' as if Mubarak will remain in power...

Nothing like a little presupposition to try to magic the truth and opinion.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:35 | 923463 SWRichmond
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If the Egyptian Army has indeed said it is staying out of it, then "it" is over.

Edit: AlJazeera reporter on live feed is reporting that the army is letting people into the demonstrations after checking them for weapons, and in defiance of the "curfew."  It's over.  Next?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:39 | 923517 flacon
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> Next?

Yemen, then Jordan and Syria together.


...and then Spain, Portugal, and Italy, and then Kalifornia, and IlliNOY and New York and Michigan, and New Jersey. 

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:41 | 923531 Shylockracy
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What will Mubarak Obama do next?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 17:20 | 925151 Big Ben
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This kind of reminds me of the late 70's when there were massive protests against the Shah of Iran and President Carter basically did nothing to support the Shah. His "reward" was the Iranian hostage crisis which ended his (already slim) chances of reelection. The main difference was that the Iranian revolutionaries had a popular figure (Khomeini) to rally around who was supported by a well organized base. I don't see an Egyptian counterpart to Khomeini.

More and more things seem to resemble the late 70's. We have high unemployment and a president who doesn't seem to be able to fix the economy. And inflation seems to be looming in the background.


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 17:33 | 925204 aheady
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Wed, 02/02/2011 - 00:23 | 926295 Bringin It
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Looming?? -- Me too.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 18:04 | 925324 YHC-FTSE
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I wasn't sentient enough to form any political opinions in the late 70's, but I've heard a counter perspective to your recollections. I was told that the Iranian revolution was started by a popular uprising of mostly secular socialists (National Democratic Front) demonstrating against the ruling monarchy, then fearing a "socialist" Iran, Khomeini was bussed in from exile by the Americans. He did come very late into the revolution. After he took power, Khomeini then executed members of left-wing organizations and media, the NDF was denounced, turning Iran into a theocracy. The Shah's reception (for hospital treatment) in the US and the US's refusal to extradite him ended in the Iranian hostage crisis - the rest is history.


If contemporary events resemble the 70's, then I suppose we have the rapid rise of the economy in the 80's to look forward to. The 80's were great for a lot of reasons!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 19:04 | 925487 Big Ben
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I was attending university at the time and there were lots (hundreds at least) of Iranian students there at the time. I was acquainted with a half dozen or so, and I can tell you that they were all very much pro-Khomeini. They held huge demonstrations on campus where they shouted "Down with the Shah" and "Khomeini!". I have been told that there were other groups (mainly communists and socialists) who also opposed the Shah, but I never personally met any of these people back then.

I suspect there was widespread opposition to the Shah at the time, but clearly Khomeini had the largest and best organized set of supporters. And there was never any question about who would replace the Shah if he left.

Actually, the US helped ease the Shah out of power by promising him a safe place to flee to. Without that he might have elected to stay and fight it out, possibly resulting in a bloody civil war which the Khomeini supporters might not have won. Of course, once the US had made that promise, it was obligated to keep it.

Khomeini's supporters siezed upon this promise (which had actually helped them to take power) as a pretext take over the US embassy and start the hostage crisis. This was a very stupid move because the Iranian military was mostly US supplied. When Khomeini chose to pick a fight with his major arms supplier, Saddam Hussein saw a opportunity to settle old scores with Iran and started the Iran-Iraq war which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iranians. Khomeini should at least have found a new arms supplier before electing to pick a fight with the US.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 19:29 | 925634 YHC-FTSE
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That was interesting! Many thanks for your recollections. According to the Iranians I've met in London, some of whom were members of the NDF at the time tell the story from their perspective (That they were the most popular party!) and I don't think they're liars. I just did a quick search, and there's quite a bit of literature about the Iranian revolution being hijacked by the Americans to install Khomeini instead of the socialists because, just like the 1953 coup, a consortium of oil importers and refiners found it expedient and it suited the cold war against the USSR. This book concurs -

From  "A Century Of War : Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order", written by William Engdahl.:


"In November 1978, President Carter named the Bilderberg group's George Ball, another member of the Trilateral Commission, to head a special White House Iran task force under the National Security Council's Brzezinski.  Ball recommended that Washington drop support for the Shah of Iran and support the fundamentalistic Islamic opposition of Ayatollah Khomeini.  Robert Bowie from the CIA was one of the lead 'case officers' in the new CIA-led coup against the man their covert actions had placed into power 25 years earlier.


Their scheme was based on a detailed study of the phenomenon of Islamic fundamentalism, as presented by British Islamic expert, Dr. Bernard Lewis, then on assignment at Princeton University in the United States.  Lewis's scheme, which was unveiled at the May 1979 Bilderberg meeting in Austria, endorsed the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement behind Khomeini, in order to promote balkanization of the entire Muslim Near East along tribal and religious lines.  Lewis argued that the West should encourage autonomous groups such as the Kurds, Armenians, Lebanese Maronites, Ethiopian Copts, Azerbaijani Turks, and so forth.  The chaos would spread in what he termed an 'Arc of Crisis,' which would spill over into Muslim regions of the Soviet Union.


The coup against the Shah, like that against Mossadegh in 1953, was run by British and American intelligence, with the bombastic American, Brzezinski, taking public 'credit' for getting rid of the 'corrupt' Shah, while the British characteristically remained safely in the background."



It was very interesting to see it from your perspective, and I hope you found this equally interesting.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 00:10 | 926277 Big Ben
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I have noticed that Middle Easterners have a tendency to blame anything bad that happens on the US. For example, there was an earthquake in Iran and one of my Iranian acquaintances blamed it on the US. At first, I thought he was joking but he was really serious! This is an engineer educated in a US university.

It is difficult for me to believe that a US administration (even the Carter administration) would suddenly decide to replace a reliable ally like the Shah with an Islamic firebrand. The Khomeini supporters that I knew were constantly saying that the Shah was a US puppet. This was the thing which seemed to anger them most. I think that the Shah may in some sense have been a victim of the Camp David peace accords. These caused intense anger throughout the Middle East because people felt that Sadat had betrayed Islam and shown himself to be a US puppet. And Iranians felt that the Shah had friendly relations with the US and received a great deal of US military assistance, so he was probably just another Sadat.

In any case, I think it was clear from the outset that Khomeini and his supporters were not going to be at all friendly to the US, and I think that Khomeini would have been the last person that the US would have picked to replace the Shah. I think that the Carter administration might possibly have deceived itself into thinking that it could forge a frosty working relationship with the Khomeini regime (a colossal miscalculation as it turned out!) and so they bowed to what they saw as inevitable and encouraged the Shah to leave without a fuss.

Of course, if it is really true that most Iranians were anti-Khomeini and really wanted a secular democracy to replace the Shah, then clearly Carter committed a massive foreign policy blunder which is still causing major headaches today. But I haven't heard even Carter's harshest critics accuse him of such a blunder. I wasn't in Iran at the time, so I cannot claim firsthand knowledge of what was happening there then. But I kind of wonder whether your NDF friends might not be deceiving themselves a little bit about their popularity at the time. If the NDF really was so popular, then I don't see how the US could have prevented them from coming to power (even if for some crazy reason it had wanted to).

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 08:10 | 926687 YHC-FTSE
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Many thanks for sharing your thoughts. I suppose it is possible that the old Iranians I bump into every now and then may have their memories coloured and distorted by being in the thick of the uprising and by the passage of years. But I think they're earnest - most of them are academics in science - after all, they had to flee for their lives when Khomeini came to power and they have nothing to gain or lose any more. It's been fascinating hearing the same tale from different perspectives. 

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 00:20 | 926291 cranky-old-geezer
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We're seeing ME returning to its 5,000+ year theocratic ways.  US puppet regimes moderated it a few years, nothing more.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:55 | 923586 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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New Jersey! Now wait a minute, according to South Park, NJ takes over the USA.


Get it right.





Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:16 | 924618 Manbarepig
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Al Qaeda to the rescue?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 20:00 | 925681 Pez
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Al Qaeda problems got ya down bub? Call 1-800-4CIA! That's 1-800-4CIA! For a Large Fee they will call off those nasty Al Qaeda terrorists and secretly install a US friendly puppet regime. Remember that's 1-800-4CIA! Do it today! ...again that's 1-800-4CIA! You'll be glad you did!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:00 | 924307 Missing_Link
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The beginning of a radical Islamist middle east, unfortunately.

From :

59% of Egyptians back Islamists. Only 27% back modernizers. 50% of Egyptians support Hamas, 30% support Hizbullah, and 20% support al-Qaeda. 82% support executing adulterers by stoning, 77% support whipping and cutting the hands off thieves, and 84% support executing any Muslim who changes his religion.
Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:08 | 924334 pan-the-ist
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Spread your propaganda somewhere else.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:36 | 924439 TuesdayBen
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You listen to NPR, which serves up the purest form of propaganda, do you not?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:40 | 924460 Rodent Freikorps
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With tax dollars. Govt. approved propaganda at that. Real official stamp of approval.

Yes, it is.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:51 | 924510 pan-the-ist
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You obviously didn't grasp the part in my comment where I am pointing out NPRs agenda.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 19:43 | 925673 hardmedicine
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NPR is the biggest propaganda shill of them all because they take the "controlled opposition" position and make the average sheeple think they are really out there tearing it up!!! hahahaha.  I remember the days when I, yes I, listened to NPR thinking how nice it was of my government to be so open to criticism.!  Oh God, the matrix amazes me even now. 


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 21:14 | 925906 Alcoholic Nativ...
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I had a professor that would constantly mention NPR, this idiot actually ascked me after my Osama Bin Laden presentation, arnt you gonna talk about 9/11. I said, nope.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:21 | 924371 SgtShaftoe
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I think it remains to be seen.  Calling the Muslim Brotherhood a extremist group is like comparing the Boy Scouts to Delta Force. It's just ridiculous prima face.  I understand there's alot of propoganda going around like what you highlighted above, but it's important to know the source of the information and separate the propoganda from facts.

Incidentally the Muslim Brotherhood's website and germain article to this point is here:  

The West would be well-advised to show that, while it may not necessarily be on the side of the protestors (somewhat incredibly, Hillary Clinton already said the US won't take sides - talk about pre-emption), it will vigorously support their right to protest, assembly, and that it will not stand by while those fighting for freedom are shot to death. The protestors, who are, in fact, risking their lives, need to know that the world is watching. And that the world cares. This, presumably, is US policy, or maybe it used to be US policy. I'm not entirely sure. I do know, however, that President Bush said the following in his 2003 speech to the National Endowment for Democracy: "Militarism and rule by the capricious and corrupt are the relics of a passing era. We will stand with these oppressed peoples until the day of their freedom finally arrives.” I suppose this is the time to stand?


...So now when tens of thousands of Arabs all across the region are stating, with unmistakable clarity, that they will no longer accept the authoritarian status quo, they are forcing us to take sides, testing our so-called "moral clarity." What they are really doing, I suspect, is forcing us to fall on the wrong side of history. This is not a good place to be.



Not exactly the words of radicals...


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 17:14 | 925126 Batty Koda
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The Muslim Brotherhood are a tool of western intelligence set up in 20's, similar thing to Al Queda. It's possible the anglo-american empire will help them gain power so Egypt can be turned against Iran. A long running plan has been to form a radical Sunni Arab front of nations and use them against the Shiite Persians. Mubarak wasn't stupid enough to go along with this so now he's gone.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 17:56 | 925297 Big Ben
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I don't really know anything about the Muslim Brotherhood. But in general, radicals who are not yet in power often adopt moderate positions in order to maximize their support and minimize opposition. Only when they become firmly established do their true positions become apparent.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 19:14 | 925589 GDE
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The Muslim Brotherhood are fundamentalists.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 22:41 | 926087 dogbreath
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so are baptists

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 00:47 | 926333 Bringin It
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Re. The Boogie Men of The Muslim Brotherhood.

We are currently under the thumb of the Israeli Brotherhood of Ben Shalom Brenarnke and crew.  [But no one can say this.]  We make annual tribute payments in various forms and get nothing in return, so captured we be. 

How much worse can our trajectory get? 

How much worse can the Boogie Men be?  I say bring on the Boogie Men. 

Have you listened to the drum beats at the Cairo rallies?  Boogie men get down.


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 23:40 | 926215 Uncle Remus
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That is pure and unadulterated bullshit. Seems to me like it is a first step in telling Israel to go fuck itself, without our help.

Additionally, America doesn't need any help with fundmentalism.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 07:18 | 926387 Bringin It
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Seems to me like it is a first step in telling Israel to go fuck itself, without our help.

Clearly, it's about time.  I hope you're on to something.  Just one thing.  Who's 'our'?

If this is upsetting to you, maybe should have been active trying to rein in the supreme hubris, let alone abuse, a long time ago.

But let's see what happens.  Given the stakes, you must have the A-Team in action.  Here's a blast from the past with a different A-Team.

Why do you presume I/we want to help Israel do anything? 

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:58 | 923803 SRV - ES339
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...and then Spain, Portugal, and Italy, and then Kalifornia, and IlliNOY and New York and Michigan, and New Jersey

Howard Dean, is that you... where's the "Ye Haaaaaaaaw?"

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:32 | 924177 PY-129-20
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Yes, yes - and then the Chinese. And then South America  - and then the whole world will collapse and then we will have WWIII with those laser beams and stuff - and then the Martians will come to overtake the world and the Messiah dude will stop them...yeah,

...come on, it isn't that bad, right?

The CNBC pundits, Harry Wanger, Zimben, Spock, Margarete Brennan and the "Sunshine and Gloria Media Corp" told me all is fine. Therefore it must be true, of course.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:22 | 924398 trav7777
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Jordan's gov't has now resigned.  The King obviously wants to avoid a similar overthrow.

Ghoulface Skerry has called for resignation, some rumbling from the US Senate is significant.  Several other governments, Iran and Turkey most notably, have called for Mubarak's resignation.

Can NeObama get off the golf course long enough to make comment on this?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:23 | 923688 AnAnonymous
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If the Egyptian Army has indeed said it is staying out of it, then "it" is over.


'It' will be over only when the West decides it is over.

If the Egyptian tyrant is really cooked, then this puppet is holding till his masters have designed their plan to preserve the west interests in Egypt.

When ready, they will come out and state they support the democratic process in Egypt under conditions, most of them being the preservations of western interests, the rest humanitarian false goals to sugarcoat the real targets.

It could be no rejection of contracts signed between the West and the tyrant (even if he was not representative of his people in a democratic framework, which should lead to nullify previous contracts, a sequence that happened in Iraq for example), commitment not to look to acquire nuclear weapons,  warrantees on this or that.

If all these conditions are not accepted, then the West will not support the process (to understand, will try to thwart the  process by various means) etc...

Once it is sure that the Egyptian governments to come are stripped from all the power that could harm western interests, at this point, these people will be free to proceed.

Not before.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:44 | 923763 B9K9
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I know the idea of an omnipotent, organized supreme body is comforting to many @ ZH. However, the fact remains that while there may be certain US policy objectives being loosely formulated, chaos is the reigning theme.

I've shared many, many times @ ZH that my dad was a career intelligence dude, and that I myself have been caught in the type of situation we're seeing in Egypt. Trust me when I tell you that no one is in charge, much less State/CIA. The situation is very fluid & volatile; around and around we go, where it stops, no one knows.

OT: I hope everyone is taking notice of the trend-line: once cops/guards "lose" their uniforms (since they have their own families to protect), criminal gangs come out. And the first thing they do is free their compatriots from various prisons.

Combine this with power being down, food stores running low, water scarce and what do you get? Local posses guarding/protecting neighborhood enclaves, with almost everything locked down tight. Forget papers - it's all visual recognition.

Take note Americans; this is how it rolls.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:08 | 923854 Gully Foyle
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I would think Iran and Turkey have many open channels to the revolution.

Both have been positioning as big players in the area.

Are Russia and China on the same negative footing as the US and Europe with the Egyptian people?


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:10 | 923861 subqtaneous
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Agreed.  If it were true that the Uncle Sam had the sort of control of being mentioned here, Iran never would've gone the direction it did in 78-79, which is the closest analogy to the size and scope of this revolt.

We'll just have to watch and wait.


Wed, 02/02/2011 - 05:01 | 926597 hero HNL
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I love your picture...



Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:30 | 923933 AnAnonymous
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 I know the idea of an omnipotent, organized supreme body is comforting to many @ ZH


I did not postulate the existence of an omnipotent, organized supreme body. It is implicit when you state the possibility that the Egyptian tyrant is done.

All I stated is that the West will determine the end of the current process.

Option one: the Egyptian tyrant can channel the Egyptian discontent. He is maintained.

If not, option two: the Western powers call for negociations and a peaceful transition they warrant. Egyptians will be allowed in a type of government stripped from any potential option to harm western interests.

If not, option three: Egypt is besieged by the West through various measures, most of them decided on the behalf of the world through the UN.

The process end will be determined by the West. It does not mean that the West has the control over the outcomes of the process.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:10 | 924595 creviceCaress
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i do believe that AnAnonymous has a good point. disco Iran was a different time different place.....this can't be compared at all, way too many different aspects.....this could be an organic event that isn't being fanned by the west, and if it is and the west has no immediate plan to keep it under control then things could start getting eenteresting......things have a peculiar hue to them now,timing is everything, the "omnipotent"  ones let egypt loose of the clutches?  possible.....highly unlikely.  may take a coupla days

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 16:30 | 924939 Cathartes Aura
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the main difference in the arguments presented above is that one is put forward from a "US" point of supposed agenda/power, while AnAnonymous consistently uses "the West" - I believe this to be a more accurate assessment now.

it's less about what any individual nationstate's puppet-figurehead "says" and more about who is guiding the game, IMO. . . can folk really not see the parallel in Mubarek & Obama as installed focal points??

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 17:50 | 925275 pan-the-ist
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Is "the West" a euphemism I am not familiar with?

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 02:56 | 926522 Cathartes Aura
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dunno, are you familiar with duality, "the East"?

some folk here are stuck rooting for their "sides" - the mind training born of religious absolutes, good/bad, right/wrong, man/woman, etc. - so if the red team is good, then the blue team is bad, blahblahblah. . . when reality is much more subtly blurred.

I guess my point is "the West" is a way to point at a more overarching narrative - beyond the "US" or any particular nationstate, to include the historical meddling of Old Europe "western" first world, whatever - it's not just amrka's agenda being played out here, things are being steered by power that claims no state allegiance.

if you were being facetious, then stick with the first line, my apologies.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 06:50 | 926642 Bringin It
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Thanks, excellent post as usual CA. 

This for example -

things are being steered by power that claims no state allegiance

You sound like someone I bumped into while walking towards Sprout Plaza at a point in the past.

I liked your lines about the Hegelian Dialectic the other day when you said don't play the game, but if you have to look for an antagonist, look vertically, not horizontally.  Clever.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:03 | 924059 A Nanny Moose
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it's all visual recognition.


....and the second the US at least.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:56 | 924084 hedgeless_horseman
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Civilians armed with knives, axes, golf clubs, firebombs, metal bars and makeshift spears watched over many neighborhoods in the sprawling capital of 18 million this weekend, defending their families and homes against widespread looting and lawlessness.


The thugs had exploited the chaos created by the largest anti-government protests in decades and the military failed to fill the vacuum left by police.


ACOG, bitches!!!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:45 | 924236 AldoHux_IV
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One of many undersirable risks associated with violent revolutions, but violent revolutions occur because there are those who prevent peaceful ones from happening or more specifically when people's will are ignored time and time again.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:14 | 924370 FreedomGuy
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Finally a rational voice. The conspiracy types really overdo it at times. From my experience and training I, too believe there is no control or coordination here. I DO believe that bunches of small fries from local neighborhood types to an established type like El Baradei are all positioning and organizing to try and take advantage of the situation. Everyone from criminals, to politicos, to theocratic types are working overtime to make something happen here. I don't believe anyone knows how it will turn out, not even in Egypt. Statistically and from history it will turn out poorly.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:09 | 924591 DarkAgeAhead
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I agree - virtue and beneficience never really float to the top in these sort of scenarios.  From the seat of my pants:  El Baradei rises, gets assassinated (car bomb), Eygpt sinks into dark fundamentalism.

That's complete speculation.  But here's Baradei's daughter in a swimsuit for you non-fundamentalists:


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 16:34 | 924948 Cathartes Aura
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nice distracting technique, keep the focus on the "little head" dude.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 16:12 | 924855 edotabin
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I have had it! None of you can see that only van Rompuy is charismatic enough to bring this situation under control. Barroso can also play a critical role! :-)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 17:22 | 925161 Batty Koda
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So the US doesn't intigate coups and revolutions in order to install western friendly puppet governments? Coz your dad said so?

What about all those south American governments? The colour revolutions? Iran in the 50's? I bet it's a whole lot easier these days with the internet to organize people. The powers that be are NOT INCOMPITANT if they were monkeys banging away at computers they wouldn't control the world, simple as that.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 19:15 | 925595 B9K9
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Oh brother, I know I'm going to regret responding to someone who presents a glaring misspelling in all caps.

OK, here goes: Of course the US and its allies (ie the West) are involved in all sorts of covert & overt activity. I mean, we are the Evil Empire after all; we should expect nothing less to help make our lives a little more comfortable stateside. You like $3.25/gallon gas? Thank the MIC/Fed. What about cheap, jumbo Micky D's? Ditto. Anyway, when our global hegemony recedes, we're gonna be talkin' about these times as the "good old days".

But I digress. The point I was trying to make is that the ultimate outcome is commonly unpredictable and/or not of our liking aka "blowback". Let's review just a few quick hits:

1. Iran - we depose the PM and install the Shah in 1953. Guess what happens 26 years later?

2. Viet Nam - we spend 10 years+, only to see Saigon fall 2 years after we left.

3. Iraq & 'Stan - 8 years later, we are nowhere close(r) to establishing a trustworthy puppet regime.

What we want and what we are able to accomplish are oftentimes two different outcomes. My point stands that what is going on right now in Egypt is out of any one's control. Events are not waiting for some 'go signal' of our choosing.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 01:11 | 926375 Uncle Remus
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Pimp My Lamp Post - Cairo Edition!

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 02:07 | 926453 bretondog
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Trust me when I tell you that no one is in charge, much less State/CIA. The situation is very fluid & volatile; around and around we go, where it stops, no one knows.


I think there is more than a grain of accuracy in this point.

This entire situation is so rare in the ME (as in maybe never before) and so hard to finger---note a lack of Theological signs or jargon in or around Tahrir Sq.

Very fluid and different.


Wed, 02/02/2011 - 03:02 | 926528 Cathartes Aura
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the leash is tugged, the hand lost grasp.

we can hope.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:46 | 924488 LooseLee
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And the USSR claims to be a "free" country spreading "freedom"? If what you say is true, then America is a sham and hypocrite nation du jour.....and if you support that theory woe to you when TSHTF...

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 19:01 | 925555 spekulatn
Wed, 02/02/2011 - 08:13 | 926689 bonddude
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and heeeeerree come the Mubarak supporters. NUTS in ...3...2...1

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:10 | 924526 creviceCaress
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National Pentagon Radio.





how did i end up down here?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 21:35 | 925954 spekulatn
Tue, 02/01/2011 - 22:42 | 926091 pan-the-ist
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Article ends up being short on facts.  Author doesn't explain the greater than 1 million demonstrators today, it seems to be conjecture based on old news.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 18:38 | 925468 Yen Cross
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That teflon Aussie. Giant cyclones won't knock that carry trade out.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:10 | 923140 doomandbloom
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a bit of conspiracy theory to spice things up...

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:26 | 923157 Alcoholic Nativ...
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"in the US that will lead to the declaration of martial law followed by the use of mercenary armies to enforce fascist rule there."

Stopped reading right there. This is already here.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:37 | 923173 bunkermeatheadp...
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Got Blackwater?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:55 | 923204 paulypaul
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Love this bit about the Hatian earthquake - 'They also wanted to steal a device located in the Haitian central bank because they wanted to try to break into the codes for the new financial system'.

What a load of rubbish, a device, the device, gizmo..

Ooohh they reversed the polarity and all the money goes back to them

This is what James Bond would be like written by a child.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 09:56 | 923381 Confused
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Except James Bond was written by a real intelligence agent............

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:56 | 923209 topcallingtroll
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Wow. The tinfoil hats were put on early today. Look out! It's a black helicopter with that muslim anti christ Barry Seotoro!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 09:14 | 923270 bunkermeatheadp...
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ZHers use silverfoil, not tinfoil.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 09:30 | 923327 DaddyO
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Speaking of silver, straight up out of the blocks this morning, how bad will it sell off as the day wears on?


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:55 | 923583 Larry Darrell
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If you follow our resident metals junkie, Turd Ferguson, you would be aware that the Evil Empire doesn't do as much suppression of silver on Tuesdays, so it may not sell off much at all.  I check his site daily at


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:16 | 923663 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Do you think Blythe reads Turd?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:29 | 923704 The Grip
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Blythe surely has an army of PAs, one whose duty it is to track every element of the insurgency 24/7/365.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:45 | 923767 attst487
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Blythe does read Turd. Blythe even posts on his blog from time to time.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:45 | 923990 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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How decrepit a mind must be to live to short precious metal. 

"Meh.....Mmmmmeeeeh.....meh."  The sound came dip from her (it's?) throat as if gasping for breathe.  "Meeeh...cigerettes...neeed meh cigarettes."  Blythe's eyes rolled around in their sockets as if searching blindly in the dark, yet the room was lit, if even dimly.

Jamie Dimon stood in the corner.  He raised and snapped his fingers.  A manservent in a pink and purple bikini ran to Blythe with a pack of Lights.  The boyish bikini clad man held the pack out to her.  She roiled about for a second, not moving in any coordinated manner.

"Pull one out for her!"  Pointed Jamie.  The boy did so and Blythe cocked her head so he could stick one in her lips.  Her body lay in a vat of a mud like substance that appeared to be boiling.  It was not clear if she ever left the pool.

"Blythe," Jamie asked nervously, "What is the plan today?" 

She coughed and weezed.  "Well it appears it has noticed we do not usually go after silver on Tuesdays." 

"So we go after silver?"  Jamie asked in aspiration.

"Let me finish, boy.  We will go after all of the usual suspects."  Blythe let the cigarette burn as she talked.  "First oil, then gold, then silver, then the dollar." 

Jamie reached in his coat pocket.  "I will alert Bernanke."

"Do not waste your time.  He and Barney Fwank are skiing Jackson Hole for his anniversary." 

"Oh no, I forgot to get him a present!" 

Blythe took a drag as an inch of ashe glowed red.  She exhaled and dropped it in the ashtray.  "I sent a card with your name on it." 

"Thank y...." 

Blythe interrupted, "Don't thank me."  She relaxed her head into the ooze and shut her eyes.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:34 | 924183 boiow
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Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:52 | 924276 bunkermeatheadp...
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I miss Jackson Hole.

Like Cypher misses the Matrix.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 03:43 | 926568 yellowbr
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Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:38 | 923735 DaddyO
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I checked a little bit ago and the Evil Empire must not have gotten the memo, Silver is trading below its open.


disclaimer: I own lots of the shiny little silver coins in big monster

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:51 | 924174 GoinFawr
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Whoops, better check again.

There appears to be a classic Turd's "FUBM" pattern in the works today.

You and your disclaimer should be very pleased.


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:54 | 924284 Larry Darrell
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"the Evil Empire must not have gotten the memo"

I should have added the emphasis in my previous statement:

The Evil Empire does not do as much...........they still do some.

And as of this posting, I have a last of $28.61, which is nicely above yesterday's close.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:16 | 924378 FreedomGuy
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Whatever happened to goldfoil?!?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 19:10 | 925577 Alienated Serf
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Barry Setero is flying Airwolf!??!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 09:32 | 923334 DaddyO
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Blackwater is if I'm not mistaken, owned by Monsanto.


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:46 | 923775 attst487
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Correct, and is now known as XE. (exterminate everyone?)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:17 | 924620 earnyermoney
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Google XE Monsanto. First link states Monsanto hired XE not bought XE. With those terrorist announcements for the bankstas look for JPM, GS et all to hire XE for personal protection. Violence pays.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 16:46 | 925010 Cathartes Aura
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Blackwater has simply metastasized, like all cancerous growths.

Blackwater Worldwide is abandoning the brand name that has been tarnished by its work in Iraq, settling on Xe (pronounced zee) as the new name for its family of two dozen businesses.

Blackwater Lodge and Training Center, the subsidiary that conducts much of the company’s overseas operations and domestic training, has been renamed U.S. Training Center Inc., the company said Friday.

from "Blackwater" to "U.S." - uhh, yeah.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 06:12 | 926619 NoClueSneaker
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... 35 spin offs, still counting. Franchise.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 18:33 | 925438 serotonindumptruck
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Private contractors such as XE will be hired to administrate the re-settlement operations with regard to the FEMA camps strategically located throughout the USA once martial law (suspension of Habeas Corpus) is imposed upon the American citizenry.

Continuity of Government (COG) contingencies are taken seriously by TPTB.

The only question remaining is how said contractors will be paid.


Wed, 02/02/2011 - 01:17 | 926385 Uncle Remus
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Where are the "mercenary armies to enforce fascist rule"? I been snowed a couple of days and don't have TV. Did I miss something?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:37 | 923175 Oh regional Indian
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Fulford is an interesting one. i saw an interview of him and some Count or the other from Italy. Quite hilarious. Only problem is, right now, reality is far, far weirder than fiction.

And Egypt. They've managed to get a million or more out. Human beings in such large agglomerations tend to highly unstable agglomerations. 

A million humans in close quarter is the veritable sand-pile. And if there are provocateurs in the crowd, as there will be (of course, this has long been in the planning), then it'll take just a spark.

Fire-y  speeches, exhortations, here's hoping the majority stay calm.



Tue, 02/01/2011 - 09:00 | 923196 Bob
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CNN reports that the Army has funnelled most in Cairo into  "Liberation Square" and that the protesters are giving pat-downs to everyone who enters to ensure no weapons and admonishing all to maintain a "Peaceful Protest."  How and where a million people packed shoulder to shoulder all day are gonna piss remains an unanswered question.

I have my doubts about how effective non-violence will be over that final mile of the journey, with food running out, but the people have been brilliant in their loving embrace of the military.  We should take note, me thinks. 

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 09:03 | 923230 Carl Marks
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Imagine all those lamb meat farts.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:49 | 923568 Citxmech
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Obviously the junkers have never eaten a shwarma...

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:01 | 924545 Cpl Hicks
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And imagine all those hungry bedbugs back home.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 09:55 | 923380 cowdiddly
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I don't have doubtss. This is going to spread to the whole world. You can stick your head in the sand. Its OK, but happen it will, and everyone knows its time. People are waking the fuck up. People are the government and we have the types of government only we are willing to tolerate. Junk away it will not stop this.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:36 | 923512 sushi
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I agree 1,000,000,000


Somehow, some way, all the other nations which proclaim themselves to be democracies should hold million person marches. The kleptocrats and autocrats in the west are no better than MooBark; that is why they support him. The entire world is going to pay the price for Geno-Bernanke. Who elected him? Nobody. And when his stream of donkey dung hits the rotating utensil who will accept responsibilty? Nobody.

If 20 year old Egyptians can figure out how to organize this then dammit there has to be some way to duplicate that effort everywhere else.


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:06 | 923621 Oh regional Indian
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Actually there is such an organization in the US, and you will see it raise it's head as soon as the signal is given.

it's called LaRazza. Remember their spontaneous marches of a couple of years ago? Peaceful, co-ordinated. likewise with the major gangs. The only unprepared ones are the general middle class.

Something to think about.

Criminals above and criminals below. And an outside force, ready to reclaim in between.

Rock, paper, scissors.


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:14 | 923873 Gully Foyle
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Oh regional Indian

"Actually there is such an organization in the US, and you will see it raise it's head as soon as the signal is given.

it's called LaRazza. Remember their spontaneous marches of a couple of years ago? Peaceful, co-ordinated. likewise with the major gangs. The only unprepared ones are the general middle class.

Something to think about."

Hell, why not include the Native American groups as well? A couple of years ago one related group laid claim to a big chunk of land and claimed an independent state.

The Seneca in NY are pissed off due to taxation. And groups in various other states have their own issues.

Now, a Lakota member has formally declared that the Lakota Nation is withdrawing from all treaties with the United States, and is forming an independent nation from territory in five US states.

This Lakota member, Russell Means, bases his action on a UN declaration of the rights of indigenous peoples, and Article VI of the US Constitution, which says that treaties are the supreme law of the land. He has visited the State Department and delivered formal notice of the Lakota leaving all treaties with the United States, and even begun conducting diplomatic visits with other foreign powers, seeking recognition of the "new Lakota Nation." Although his argument that the Lakota have been lied to and abused by the US is accurate, his authority and reasoning for these acts are, to say the least, questionable.

Mr. Means is a Lakota, but he is not a tribal leader, chief, or elder. These are the individuals that officially speak for the Lakota peoples, dating all the way back to Sitting Bull's time. It can be argued that although he is a strong activist, he does not have the true authority to make such declarations on behalf of all Lakota. In fact, some actual Lakota chiefs have already publically stated that they do not support what Mr. Means is trying to do.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:21 | 923897 almost_have_a_name
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I'd fight for Russell Means, but not for the US.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:49 | 924022 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Russell Means '12.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 00:19 | 926287 Spalding_Smailes
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Peter Tosh - Downpressor Man (1977)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:44 | 924218 GoinFawr
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You could argue that if you are fighting for Russell Means you are fighting for the US.

"Patriotism does not mean simply going along with what your Government does, but Patriotism means supporting the principles for which your Government is supposed to stand." Long live Howard Zinn!

Bring on the junks you right wing loony Patriot Act-ors!


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 17:14 | 925125 Cathartes Aura
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as someone who was a part of the original forum set up for the Lakota people 2007/2008, I'll just say be aware that "Republic of Lakotah" is more a vanity project for Russell Means. . . there were/are some very good ideas and actions germinated, but I'd be wary of "investing" in something that does not have the backing of the Lakota Oyate. . . there was much discord & distrust sown in 2008, and many have simply pulled back. . .

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:28 | 923923 pazmaker
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you mean los narcotraficantes?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:46 | 923960 Green Leader
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 The Aryan brotherhood is ready.

 145 pages of pure nonwhite nightmares:

FM 6-2003 Ethnic Cleansing Operations

Table of contents:

Chapter 1: Why Ethnic Cleansing?
Chapter 2: Historic Examples
Chapter 3: The Scrub Brushes of Ethnic Cleansing
Chapter 4: Who Will Fight?
Chapter 5: How To
Chapter 6: Operation Blackout
Chapter 7: When?
Recommended Reading
Appendix A, Psywar Poster
Appendix B, Abandoned Property Form
Appendix C, Military Bases
Appendix D, Amtrak Stations
About the Author
CD Case Label

That's right!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:30 | 924168 Vergeltung
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Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:45 | 924238 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Nazi scum, in my zero hedge? It might be more likely than you think.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:11 | 924352 Green Leader
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Come on, the Swastika comes from India.

I am a true Hebrew, BTW.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:42 | 924473 serotonindumptruck
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Know your enemy.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 16:59 | 925074 Green Leader
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The Synagogue of Satan, Revelation 3:9.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 19:23 | 925617 Alienated Serf
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Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:15 | 923665 goldfish1
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The Ber.nank swinging ala Muss.olin is a fitting end to the Kiss.inger era.


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:42 | 923701 cowdiddly
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The last step of the pyramid is consienceness cocreation. Its evolution for an athiest and divine inspiration for a spiritual. It does not matter if you are a Hindu or Christian, Chinaman or American, America only laid the foundation of the self evident truths that has became corrupted. The Mayans told us what.The Egyptians are showing us how. 

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Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:22 | 924396 FreedomGuy
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The Egyptian marches were more spontaneous than organized. Tunisia was just a catalyst. I think we will see the dis- or un-organization when Mubarak steps down and there is a fight to fill the vacuum.

In America and the West we do have marches and protests. That's what the Tea Party and similar rallies were about and it was total middle class. However, in the West the average middle class has a big stake in society. We all own homes, cars, have jobs, etc. You just can't take a week and head into the streets and march and protest. That is both our advantage and disadvantage. It is also why our non-leftist protests tend to be nonviolent but well organized.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:34 | 924710 andybev01
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You just said what you perhaps didn't mean to.

Middle class Americans are only going to go so far with their protests because they are more concerned about wealth preservation "homes, cars, have jobs, etc.", than effecting any real change.

The folks in the middle east, although not as affluent as their western counterparts are putting it all on the line.

Show me that spirit in America.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 17:34 | 925208 Batty Koda
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YOU need to wake up, this is being carefully planned by the CIA and MI6. Notice how according to the media the protesters are "pro-democracy activists" not "terrorists"? If this is threatening the power structure why is the media ramping it up so much? Why won't politicians condemn the protesters and support Mubarak?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:07 | 923633 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Urine is can drink it.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:22 | 923901 Hook Line and S...
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Kind of true...others can drink MY urine!

Don't drink urine because of the high salt content. It will kill you in the desert if you do.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:47 | 924252 GoinFawr
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Distill it.

But still: ewww.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 18:41 | 925473 tmosley
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This is easier than it sounds.  All you need is a small bowl, a large bowl, and some cellophane or other thin film.  Place the urine in the small bowl, and cover it with the cellophane such that the water that collects on it falls into the larger bowl.  Presto, perfectly clean water from urine.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 09:30 | 923325 Drag Racer
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Yep, Fulford is a scam artist. He has a bunch of people fooled into thinking there is trillions of gollars coming into the country from China to fund the new US gov. him and others have set up. Every other day the money somehow has to be turned around... too funny they follow this crap for a year now. Sad how many fools have sent him donations.

I've been watching the 'movement' in Egypt sine it started today. I'm very impressed with the people's responsibility in self policing, self respect and overall attitude of unity they are displaying. Something people from all over the world can take as a example to follow. Well done Egypt. Very very respectfull display of just awesomeness...

Heard reports on Al Jezeera of around 2 mil+ in Cairo alone with similar large groups in other major cities.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:00 | 923391 thetruth
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doom, do you have access to the full article?

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:39 | 923519 doomandbloom
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no, not a member of his site...


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:34 | 924182 doggings
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I tried to join them a few years back to get inside and troll the f***ers, they would never accept my various applications, theyre quite picky who they'll let join :)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 16:15 | 924867 edotabin
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That dude can barely control the saliva in his mouth when he speaks. Have you ever seen the ninja assassin video he made? Hilarious!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:15 | 923143 Mercury
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March like an Egyptian!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:17 | 923147 Confused
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Haha, thanks, needed the laugh.


Stupid flash plug-in won't work. 

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:17 | 923145 Sudden Debt
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There was also a protest by 2000 Mubarak loyalists so the odds are 500/1.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 09:24 | 923303 Hephasteus
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I can imagine protests in america with monica lewinski and all the politicians family members they trot out on occaison and all of sara palins crotch sniffers all holding signs. Stay the course. Stay with devil you know. LOL

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:23 | 923905 Things that go bump
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'When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know." '


Excerpt from "The Gods of the Copybook Headings," written by Rudyard Kipling in 1919 

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:30 | 923935 Rodent Freikorps
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The tumult and the shouting dies;
   The captains and the kings depart:
Still stands Thine ancient sacrifice,
   An humble and a contrite heart.
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget - lest we forget!

Far-called, our navies melt away;
   On dune and headland sinks the fire:
Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
   Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
Judge of the Nations, spare us yet,
Lest we forget - lest we forget!

If, drunk with sight of power, we loose
   Wild tongues that have not Thee in awe--
Such boasting as the Gentiles use
   Or lesser breeds without the law--
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget - lest we forget!

For heathen heart that puts her trust
   In reeking tube and iron shard--
All valiant dust that builds on dust,
   And guarding, calls not Thee to guard--
For frantic boast and foolish word,
Thy mercy on Thy people, Lord!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:17 | 923146 bullionbaron
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This situation could send Silver and Gold nuts.

Perth Mint is already struggling to meet retail investor demand:

As are many mints around the world.

Keep stacking!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:18 | 923148 bullionbaron
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Amazing news coming out of the Egyptian revolution. Where the government has shut down the internet, people have teamed up all over the world to keep the communication flowing in Egypt, using faxes, speech to twitter services, short distance radio, dialup internet services & even morse code. Not only will this revolution create a free Egypt, but it is a wake-up call for governments everywhere... we will not be controlled, we will not be silenced.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:25 | 923155 Sudden Debt
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that line google opened with a free tel number where you could call in your messages is quite brilliant.

I've got to admit it, +1 for google.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:28 | 923159 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Allahu Akbar

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 23:56 | 926249 Uncle Remus
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Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:34 | 923167 youngman
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I would bet there will soon be a new communications CZAR appointed for just this find out how to shut down the information network totally...twitter and all....

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:21 | 923680 goldfish1
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dialup internet services bitchez

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:26 | 923916 almost_have_a_name
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Dialup is plenty fast: At 56000 bits per second it only takes 17.8 microseconds to send a message. 0 we riot, 1 we riot

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:20 | 924132 A Nanny Moose
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0 we riot, 1 we riot

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those who do not.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 14:42 | 924471 weinerdog43
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1100010001101   !!

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 20:02 | 925723 Alienated Serf
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Tue, 02/01/2011 - 23:57 | 926253 Uncle Remus
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300 baud acoustic would work just fine for that.

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