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Follow Egypt's Big Day As Millions Take To The Streets
Update: Semi-automatic gunfire now heard in Alexandria.
For Egypt, it is now or never. With millions out on the streets in Cairo and other cities, the Egyptian population will likely not have another chance at such a massive showing of popular expression of anger against President Mubarak. For those who wish to follow today's million man march, can do so at the usual places: the Al Jazeera blog, the video feed below, the Guardian blog, real time mappable tweets, and of course, the video feed below.
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See many women marching in the square protesting??? Go pick a fight somewhere else- you are not up to it here.
"See many women marching in the square protesting???"
Yes.
You are fucking retarded man.
No you don't- look at the AJ news feed... 2 million men shitting and pissing in ditches. You really want to call names instead of discussing or acknowledging facts? Look at your contribution of comments at this one thread alone when you sober up.
You need to be fired.
At least they let women equal one half of a man in court.
Heh. Feminist groups in America oddly silent on that. Hypocrites all.
no they're not, asswipe, but how would you know?
gotta love the boys that hang out here talking porn, dissecting women's bodies, then troll the "but those countries don't treat their women equally" . . .
Dr. Nawal El Saadawi, 79, physician, author, feminist, Cairo.
knock yourself out.
http://www.nawalsaadawi.net/index.php?limitstart=5
Want to see the Egyptian women in the protests?
See this and this and this and this and this.
The women are there. Confronting the riot police.
Democracy will prevail. You're a moron.
Show me where democracy has prevailed in the middle east?? Facts and history suck so just stick with the name calling.
Democracy has prevailed here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=39.027719,34.189453&spn=11.600232...
It's called Turkey. Tur-key. Ever heard of it?
Oh, yep they just started teaching that Darwin was wrong in the schools there.. and then hese is some more news:
Regarding the Jan. 17 news story, "Alcohol hits a nerve in Turkey," it's no longer a debate but a sad fact that Turkey's ruling AKP party, with the help of wealthy backers in both the U.S. and the Middle East, has been chipping away at the foundations of a secular republic, one that was founded by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk on the bankrupt and destroyed remains of the Ottoman Empire.
The AKP's carefully orchestrated dismantling of modern Turkey is almost complete, and has also been assisted by the party's rural, lesser educated, committed Muslim base.
Turkey's younger generation, meanwhile, seems to have been brainwashed through years of the AKP's "carrot and stick" tactics, while the country's minorities seem to support any initiative that brings quick financial gains.
Would it be surprising to wake up to an Islamic Republic of Turkey one day soon?
Disoriented and disorganized, Turkey's main opposition parties deserve a lot of blame as well. Years of bickering, power struggles, and the pursuit of outdated strategies, have only helped the AKP and Prime Minister Recep Erdogan with his grand aims.
Meanwhile constitutional changes masquerading as "reforms" are strangling Turkey's freedoms of press, speech, the integrity of the courts, and the capabilities of the armed forces as the protectors of secular Turkey. Everyone who has tried to prevent this dismantling of modern Turkey has been labelled as an enemy by Mr. Erdogan and his supporters. Yet they seem to have forgotten their history; it was his Muslim brothers who stabbed the Ottomans in their backs.
Now that Ankara has its constitutional overhauls in place, it will be easy to legislate and enforce Turkey's backslide, be it with regard to alcohol, or strict adherence to the Islamic way of life.
But we still live in hope that our nation may wake up sooner rather than later.
I guess the Bible Belt here in America doesn't have democracy either, then. They don't like Darwin, nor do they like alcohol.
Did the Christian coalition dismantle American democracy?
You have much fear, child.
Christians don't cut your head off when you insult them, dumbass.
No, they just do it when your born. Snip. Snip.
Eric Prince, CIA stooge, founder Blackwater / Xe, that "Christian Crusader" private mercenary corporation now embedded in US government, numerous scandals involving murder, human trafficking, arms smuggling, etc.
resident Abu Dhabi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide_arms_smuggling_allegat...
American made, Israeli delivered cluster bombs shred, maim and murder Arab/Islamic women and children on a regular basis. Most recently in Lebanon in 2006 and during Cast Lead in Gaza.
I'm sure these attacks generated quite a few beheadings among the recipients on the ground, Rodent. As a matter of fact over the past century or so, I wager we're ahead in beheadings delivered. Yes Rodent, We're #1.
You sure you're not talking about Amerika?
Hey Assfire, may I borrow that broad brush when you're finished using it? I have some sweeping generalizations to make, too.
Sheesh.
Without sweeping generalizations, Al-Qaeda wins.
"Sharia law is incompatible with Democracy. There will not be democracy; the Arabs are intolerant and not ready for it. It is high time the United States mind it's own business- it will see soon enough."
Arabs are not ready for democracy? This must be like American Blacks were not ready for Civil Rights for through most of the 20th century. Good thing we had the Jim Crow laws to keep them in their place so that they could get ready. So in this context America was helping the Egyptians, and other Arab states like Iraq and Jordan by supporting friendly and benevolent dictators.
So they probably just need a little push to help them like the British helped the Indians at Jallianwala Bagh realize that they were not ready for democracy either. The British were always good with tough love like that.
Roll out the machine guns.
+100
And US futures continue their usual march skywards because as everyone knows ZimBenron and his genocidal inkjets melt the market up on the first of the month
Peaceful demonstrations do not accomplish a thing. They had over a million demonstrators in Mexico city in 2006 protesting the election fraud and you can see the results today: a civil war disguised as a "war on drugs" that kills dozens of people every single day. Egypt can expect the same.
Like all the protests against the Iraq war! The criminal politicians just went ahead with an illegal war anyway and no punishments...
that was a sad day that happened because they learnt the people can be totally ignored
"Peaceful demonstrations do not accomplish a thing."
I disagree. They light the fuse.
I'm trying to recall the basic components of a high explosive. (Not something I feel inclined to Google.)
Initiator (fuse)
Primary Charge
Base Charge
Yeah, I'll borrow the metaphor of an explosive device when describing this revolutionary movement.
Kissinger on bloomberg - very interesting interview
He finished off - "if Egypt goes back to the tradition of Nasser things could get really tough"
Kissinger? THings 'getting tough' for Kissinger means useless eater lifekill is not going as well as he'd planned.
The Muslim Brotherhood is a offshoot of the neo-conservative movement - - They appear NOT IN CONTROL.
I'm sure the neo cons are frantically trying to get control of the dialogue and debate around the whole situation.l
Good luck you fucken con men.
+1
The Muslim Brotherhood is not an terrorist organization.
The Muslim Brotherhood is just like those right-wing religious conservatives who go to Tea Party meetings in the US carrying signs against abortion and gay marriage... Not very different...
I'm relieved to hear it...not!
point well made.
Nope, you just can't have it both ways. Whatever leadership rises in Egypt...Democracy not compatible with even limited Sharie Law:
Sharia law in Egypt applies only in personal status issues - such as marriage, divorce, inheritance, and custody of children. Otherwise the legal system is entirely a secular one, on the model of the French legal system.
Egypt incorporates Islamic law into its constitution by making Islam the official religion of the country and Islamic jurisprudence the principal source of legislation.
Sharia courts and judges, qadis, are run and licensed by the Egyptian Ministry of Justice, not by mosques.
Go get em 50 cent party.
When Egypt becomes a muslim democracy just like Turrkey and Indonesia, you come back here to talk about it, Okay?
Oh so they are going to give up Sharia law and treat women as equals??
Oh. a muslim democracy...not quite a real democracy with equality. That is my point Zena. Turkey is now turning away from secularism...history and facts suck.
No, Turkey is not turning away from secularism, just because you say it is.
And Indonesia is still a democracy, a 200-million-muslims democracy.
And this is our business why?
didn't you get the memo? everything's our "business" ...until we go tits up
How strange a requirement (not that strange actually)
Many, many democracies have spent most of their existence in inequal standards rather than equal standards.
The US history is clear about that, with various sequences of inequalities, in order to control various populations (including women who were excluded from voting till 1920 or something, so more time than they were included)
Of course, in spite of all these irregularities, the US has been nothing but a democratic constitutional republic since the beginning.
Yet all the nascent democracies should start from the very point 200 years old democracies have reached.
It is not that strange because the democracy status is more one of recognition: a country is recognized as a democracy, no matter what.
South Africa under Apartheid was considered a democracy by the US for example.
All these countries wont become democracies. Because there exist no requirement for being a democracy other than co-option.
Quite a lot of people are going to scan every little detail in their behaviour to explain how these countries are not democracies, even though it means excluding their own countries from the status of democracy a few decades earlier. Of course, they will maintain their own country into the status of democracy. Showing double standards. But who cares? Only others are expected not to show double standards.
"...the US has been nothing but a democratic constitutional republic since the beginning."
Well then it's no wonder that the American Experiment has failed. Your statement seems to be a contradiction of terms or an oxymoron.
Got a McDonalds? Okay, you're a democracy.
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"democratic" and "constitutional republic" are opposing systems. Which is it?
I am not inspired with the direction of Turkey's democracy.
A democracy is always better than a dictatorship, even if it's not the "perfect" democracy of your dreams.
not a true democracy my point exactly kinda like a partial pregnacy
assfire, i have been pregnant quite a few times. but never was partial to pregnancy.
LOL. Maybe your best line yet, Velo.
Not even as perfect as our own glorious iteration of democracy?
At least under a democracy the population will truly deserve what its goverment brings it.
Does it work for the US and other western democracies? Or is it just another of those elitist statements?
A democracy gets the government it deserves. Yes, the US will pay for its sins.
I am not inspired with the democracy of the turkeys in this direction.
+1 Are you here all night?
No matter who is in control, it's clear that the Muslim people are tired of being demonized by Israelis and Israel-firsters in the US. I don't believe another puppet will last too long.
I've noticed quite a bit of virulent hatred of Israel and Jews in the Arab world. Regardless, one thing you have to admit, the Jews aren't going to allow another Holocaust.
I'm sure the victims of the Palestinian genocides would disagree with you.
Oh, you mean they won't be on the RECEIVING END of another Holocaust. Well, there I will agree with you.
Doesn't Genocide mean you at least try to kill them all?
"the Jews aren't going to allow another Holocaust."
Maybe, but only if they stop working so hard on the preconditions for it.
Wisdom and basic human decency seem ever in short supply in the Zio-Entity, and historically that has been a sure omen of misery to come.
The Nazi's exhibited mass insanity . . . the Jews are exhibiting the resulting mass PTSD.
Wish they would acknowledge the problem and work that shit through in a healthy way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posttraumatic_stress_disorder
FWIW, I'd say that most Americans suffered it as a result of 911 . . . which explains alot of what has followed here.
Let me follow your logic here. The poor Israelis, whose overwhelming majority was born after the end of WWII, and whose civil infrastructure has been largely paid for with German reparation money, cannot be held accountable for their crimes because they vicariously suffer from PTSD caused by Nazis they never met?
Amazing. It is not bombs or radiation or chemical agents that will finish off Israel. It's universal ridicule.
That's right, I'm serious. If you really want to understand it, bring a truly open mind to a conscientiously careful reading of my wiki link on PTSD.
Unfortunately for the Jews, rather than dealing with the trauma in a healthy way (which people with PTSD are incapable of doing for themselves), they obsessed on the horror and drilled the images of their flashbacks into the collective memory. You've seen the pictures of the bodies. If you were a Jew, they would hit a lot deeper. Especially if your PTSD culture had adopted that image as an omnipresent real time threat to be impressed upon its children.
If the kids are not traumatized enough by that alone to develop bonified PTSD of their own, the majority of that remaining group of emotionally vulnerable children are going to develop it as Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchausen_syndrome_by_proxy
If you give it half a chance, it explains the full situation without demonizing Jews.
I was specially blessed in my understanding by a Jewish ex-wife who induced a proxy syndrome in our child.
It's how people function within cultures over generations.
I don't offer this as a legal defense against accountability for crimes, only as a different and suprisingly robust explanation of the situation.
And the fact that all their neighbors are sworn to their destruction has no bearing?
I'm glad you asked, since I'm putting my theory together as I post and had moved onto that very issue.
We certainly didn't do them any favors by giving them Israel to heal the wound. They were not welcome. While nobody likes that feeling, people with PTSD are especially vulnerable to hostility. And in this case, the trauma had only been a couple years prior. It was absolutely fresh. The hostility further reinfored their PTSD culture. Not that the other guys were doing a whole lot better.
PTSD produces extreme hypervigilance and hypersensitivity, even flashbacks in response to stimuli that are reminicent of the original trauma.
You can see how this goes. Of course, their own reactions did not make the situation any easier over time, either.
Look at it now--they've got nukes and still live in terror posing as strength. It's way different from we Americans who practiced nuclear attack drills in school while the world lived under a real omnipresent possibility of MAD through the Cold War. Not that we haven't been crazy ourselves since 9-11.
I think it works. I hope I get some Jewish feedback on it.
The fact that they were almost immediately attacked with military force isn't significant?
Just because you are paranoid...
I love the bastards. I really do. They are David to the Arab's Goliath.
I think Jews are a beautiful people--my kind of people. They're wonderful to be with, my ex-wife notwithstanding.
And I love little-guy-against-big-guy as much as anybody, but I don't think this one is necessary or really satisfying.
It's a shame for everybody.
The Arabs could...like, you know...let them be, and find a home for the Palestinians instead of using them as a club to beat on Israel.
That's my fantasy as well. I picture some untraumatized Israelis meeting with reps of all the Arab countries and just working this shit out. It shouldn't be hard for people who are meaningfully willing to be friends. Of course, there's a serious question about how emotionally flexible these people--all of them--are.
But if Arabs and Jews couldn't negotiate a deal, I don't know who could. And I mean that in the good way.
Read the Talmud sometime. I doubt you'll love them afterwards.
Hey, read Revelations sometime. God would seem to be a psychopath.
I'm an atheist, though, who is inclined to look beyond the rhetoric regardless of context.
Rodent you are retarded. Where do you get your facts? What comic books do you find this stuff in?
Repeatedly, the Arab League has offered to all make peace with Israel if Israel will return to the '67 borders. The Zionists have always rebuffed this offer.
Lately, the Arabs have said that the offer does not have an indefinite shelf life and may be withdrawn.
Your squirrel's not cute anymore.
Rodent you are retarded. Where do you get your facts? What comic books do you find this stuff in?
Repeatedly, the Arab League has offered to all make peace with Israel if Israel will return to the '67 borders. The Zionists have always rebuffed this offer.
Lately, the Arabs have said that the offer does not have an indefinite shelf life and may be withdrawn.
Your squirrel's not cute anymore.
Rodent you are retarded. Where do you get your facts? What comic books do you find this stuff in?
And the fact that all their neighbors are sworn to their destruction has no bearing?
Repeatedly, the Arab League has offered to all make peace with Israel if Israel will return to the '67 borders. The Zionists have always rebuffed this offer.
Lately, the Arabs have said that the offer does not have an indefinite shelf life and may be withdrawn.
Your squirrel's not cute anymore.
The Rothschilds could care less what happens to their jew cousins.
Actually it's Jew puppets.
Jews have always been puppets of the Anglo-Saxon banker cartel.
One of the most clever diversions in human history. Has everyone fooled.
... one thing you have to admit, the Jews aren't going to allow another Holocaust.
Carl Marks - I have been wondering about just this thing. I think with all the belligerent cheer leading on behalf of clearly out of bounds Israel, you may have set yourself up [again] to play the perfect patsy. The big fish, the real culprits will move on and lie low until they can start the cycle up all over again.
I hope not. I hope people come to their senses and lose their sense of supremacy and make an honest effort to get along.
Peace is in every one's interest, but it is incumbent upon the more powerful party to figure this out and act on it, lest the tables turn.
This one clearly is not going away. Govts ham fisted attempts at silencing the communications should be a wakeup call for Obamas internet kill switch bill too. They all know revolution is coming, muslims are tired of taking Jew crap, and americans are waking up to the dual passport BS too.
Obama's a Jew?
Obama is whatever you want him to be, as long as you pay him first.
And taxes don't count.
comment of the week award :/
I agree with the exception of an electric train. The UAW and big oil would never allow Obama to truly promote and enable commuter rail in this country, no matter what we paid him. Ten lane highways, McMansions, and giant apartment complexes 40 miles from anywhere are our fate. What I would give to have Houston look like this:
http://johomaps.com/as/hongkong/hkmetro_ch.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTR
Although China can afford it, we can't. We have POMO commissions to pay, and more than 750 military bases to maintain.
... It should be about 1000, but no one knows the real numbers - therefore an 100bn. buffer needed.
All this, yet no effect on markets. The influence of "easy money" emanates throughout this "crisis". "Fear" is no longer relevant, even in the most contrived view. One would think somebody would come up with a "trigger" by now. So be it, let there be peace and love. Power to the Egyptians!
Gil Scott-Heron wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS3QOtbW4m0
Just saw GSH in Luzern a month ago. He was amazing. Great gig.
Gil Scott-Heron soars.
http://gilscottheron.net/
and apparently the revolution is not televised. . . where it is happening, egypt. ^^
mubarak reportedly stepping down tonight, decision has been made, kudos to the egyptians for peaceful show of strength
link? Let's hope this is true.
will he time it to hit the American network news programs or will it be local time - currently 5:24pm in Cairo
in case you want a theme song for today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96SxKk0zeek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwWRUVVadQg
very nice - get's the adrenaline flowing
They are an awesome band. I'm glad you like them.
Here is one you may also like. All the best bands are coming out of Scandinavia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84aIX8UPklI
End of all hope lyrics - Nightwish
I think this is really worrying. The issue is who takes power next. Will the peoples sentiment swing away from tolerance towards a more intolrant islamic state? This could be catastrophic in the balance of power and peace in the region. If Mubarak goes alsorts of 'leaders' will come out of the woodwork. Who will be the new Barak. It seems the world is full of them
So with Turkey backsliding into a an Islamic state and Egypt, Algeria, Tunesia, Yemen, Jordon and possibly Saudi Arabia in flux 10 days before the anniversery of the Iranian Islamic revolution.. THERE WILL BE DEMOCRACY*
*see muslim democracy
Let's Go Fellas!
Are we going to bring down the TBTFs, the FED and Wallstreet... or not?
Buy GOLD! Buy SILVER!... or get priced out forever!
It's your patriotic duty!
I'm more bullish on Tungsten, lead, phosphates and potassium.
Hmm...
Tungsten and lead for ammunition...
Phosphates and potassium for...explosives?
(or perhaps methamphetamine production)
Has anyone here even pondered to take a look at El-Baradei? A lot of hype around him as a potential leader of the revolution, but no one bothers to think where he's coming from.
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/about/board/Mohamed%20ElBaradei.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Crisis_Group
"The Crisis Group raises funds from mainly western governments, charitable foundations, companies and individual donors. In 2006, 40% of its funding came from 22 different governments, 32% from 15 philanthropic organisations, and 28% from individuals and private foundations. Philanthropist George Soros who is chairman of the Open Society Institute is on the Board of Trustees"
Crisis Group Senior Advisers:
Richard Armitage
Former U.S. Deputy Secretary of State
Shlomo Ben-Ami
Former Foreign Minister of Israel
Stanley Fischer
Governor, Bank of Israel
Lord Robertson of Port Ellen
Former Secretary General, NATO
Shimon Peres
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Former U.S. National Security Advisor to the President
You get the drift? All your revolution are belong to us.
Edited
Muslim democracies have an official religion... we tried this it was called the Dark Ages.
A number of democracies has an official religion.
Britain has anglican religion as its official state religion for example.
Don't bother. To people like this, if they are brown, they are evil, no matter what.
OI! enough with this 'democracy', sharia,republican, democrat and other shit. it's fucking tiring to read. democracy doesn't really exist. it's a fucking swearword. you should know that. too much bloody noise on ZH.
And in Finland it's called Lutheranism. Quite dark there too at times (winter esp.).
The Muslim Brotherhood is very strong among the junior officer corps of the Army, not so much the Air Force. It will be interesting if the government tries to use air power against the people. My guess is that there are small units of the Army ready with ground to air missles in case that happens. If you want to follow Israel's actions around all this look at debka.com. Granted they are a propaganda shill for elements within Israeli intelligence but you can easily read between the lines. They are shitting bagels right now because the Egyptian Army (remember the MB influence) has opened the border with Gaza and Hamas is freely moving all kinds of weapons into place. The Suez canal is definitely about to be closed with more than one sunken ship.
Egyptian state media has just stated that the "people need to stay calm and let politicians find a solution." Now that will certainly appease the crowds...
Saw on local news this morning the claim the Egypt protests are likely to cause increased gas prices and thought "bullshit." Then read on Al Jazeera that Egypt state TV's main message is that protests are harming the economy.
Conclusion: Protests are not machinations of the U.S. government. My thought has been that with QE and other dollar inflation, Egypt is now getting the equivalent of $1.5 billion Zim dollars a year, and the tiny percentage that heretofore trickled down to the people (subsidies, etc.) is being hoarded by the elite. Hence the unrest.
American Empire, R.I.P.
The Empire will follow the Republic.
Stand by.
stand by....for more derp from Rodent Freikorps.
Study history. Just because you call America an empire does not make it so. And what follows a liberal democracy is nearly always a dictatorship.
We are an empire not a republic anymore because we have 800 military bases abroad. While at the same time our southern border is wide open. These folks ahte us because we are all in there business. Your enemy is not Islam,your enemy is big govt that is taking your rights away(Patriot Act,Military Comissions Act). This govt are trying to take our right to free speech and to bear arms. Are muzzies taking away our guns? No! Our govt is. The middles east is a cesspool of violence since the days of Joshua. We have enough oil,coal,natural gas to last us for centuries,so we should leave the middle east and let the factions destroy themselves. We should persue a non interventionism policy as we did back in the 19th century.
"The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.Europe has a set of primary interests, which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities." George Washingtons Fairwell address
Uncle Sam became an Empire the minute he started stealing land from the indigenous inhabitants of 'America'.
And since then, he has killed millions to expand using phony pretexts of all types.
Can we please offer up Erin Burnett to the Egyptian people as a token of our support and appreciation?
Ancient Egypt... bitchez! (hint: boobs and bladez)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb7r3irsqUY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipqUJY1Qc38
that music made my eardrums bleed.
turn down your volumes!
Look how a real grassroots popular uprising demanding an end to dictatorship and a transition to Democracy is being spun by these Zionist trolls as FEAR FEAR FEAR and pushing some kind of ridiculous clash of civilizations. These same clowns just spent the better part of a decade selling us a a war effort claiming to do what these brave Egyptians are doing right now.
Zionist are human scum, Good luck to the Egyptian people, gotta go to class.
Say Hi to the mullahs for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfv3kBzJZgU
Shouldn't you be stealing land and bombing hospitals, Whitey?
Apartheid Israel needs you. After all, they're an army without soldiers!
From here, it looks like class may be quite long and difficult a journey for you.
Perhaps he just dislikes Apartheid & ethnic cleansing?
CNBC: "Security officials are warning the leaders of major Wall Street banks that al Qaeda terrorists in Yemen may be trying to plan attacks against those financial institutions or their leading executives, NBCNewYork has learned."
Its a domestic affair, and we are outsourcing it to al Qaeda ?
Also, could someone explain why Gold took a dive ?
so you can buy more?
who cares about prices fiat when it's currently so heavily manipulated?
get more. i did.
with my tax return :)
I keep trying to find the down side to this bit of news (if true).
I got nothin'.
LOL, yeah I read that, and thought, 'If they do, most Americans will cheer.'
That's whatchya call in National Security trade lingo as a "soft target".
You can hit it again and again, without any public outcry for retaliation.
Talk about remaking your public image!
They would be as popular as Bonnie and Clyde. Reminds me of Natural Born Killers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Born_Killers
They'll be celebrities. Worldwide.
May we live in interesting times.
Guess the Variable rate loans blew out on the $500,000.00 mortages they had on their straw and donkey shit huts.
Talk about cognitive dissonance!
From terrorists to freedom fighters. There is precedent. Yassar Arafat and Menachem Begin.
Thanks for the advance warning. We have plenty of time to be well prepared. A camel travels at around 15 mph.
I hope the muzzies win!
First rumors that Mubarak fleed to Bahrain.
Not confirmed yet.
"Heard" some rumors over twitter too. That he might have left Egypt for Saudi Arabia a few days ago already. It's probably going to be that way or another, but at this point it's all pure speculation.
The protestors were chanting last night that Ben Ali in Tunisia said he'd serve out his term, too, during his second address.
Egyptian people, ... Overthrow your criminal, corrupt, and illegitimate government!
fixed.
The MSM is calling it "tens of thousands." In other words, "Nothing to see here, move along."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110201/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_egypt
I hate to say that but ZH is more and more like MSM :(
Still some reasonable folks here :)
Well, you're eminently reasonable, that's obvious. But thanks for the reminder, anyway.
An uncompromising view of the future:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24ecr_v-for-vendetta-trailer_shortfilms
Theirs is a revolution of necessity, and an insurrection of profound possibility.
The uprising in Egypt is not simply an act of profound civil resistance, it represents the unthinkable: a symbol of hope in a region often dictated by oppression.
The people of Egypt, with courage and collective heroism, have challenged the great myth - that shallow temptation - which leads us to believe that change is no longer possible.
You say you want a revolution? You can have one.
Up until about a week ago, political analysts would only consider and hypothesize about Egypt’s future in the context of President Hosni Mubarak’s old age and eventual death.
But the people have spoken- they have shouted: “we will no longer by dictated by a tyranny of force.” They have proven in large numbers that ordinary people *can* be active agents of change, and that we are not born into a hopelessly programmed world.
Long ago, the Egyptian government stopped representing the interests of the people. Society may have crumbled, but the spirit of sacrifice and community did not.
Today – as Egyptians set out to march from Tahrir Square in Cairo to the presidential palace – the world will witness a moment of truth – a reversal in the way we think about living.
Their greatest weapon is an unstoppable rhythm of revolutionary spirit. This is not a choice between chaos and order. This is a choice between repression and justice.
They choose dignity; they choose to show ultimate dissatisfaction with the political scandal and corruption that has restrained them for so long.
This is the day that Egypt marches for the world. March on, brothers and sisters: the past is already behind you, and the demands for your chosen destinies await you.
A Statement from an Egyptian Protster at tahrir Square( LIBERATION SQUARE )
posted the other day but FYI here it is again
Muslim Brotherhood
official English language Website
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/
Facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ikhwanwebcom-The-Official-English-website-...
Twitter account
http://twitter.com/ikhwanweb
IkhwanWebTube Muslim Brotherhood video site
http://www.ikhwanwebtube.com/
Ikhwan BOOK Muslim Brotherhood Social Networking Site
http://www.ikhwanbook.com/
so American Govt looks like it's LOST another crony Govt outpost due to the usual rape of the economy by the parasites they propped up, with more to come in the Middle East.
Question is when does the same fascist process hit home in backyard USA?
..and does Hillary dust off the same Egyptian speech as millions of Yanks call for the blood of the Dems and GOP trying to cling onto their ponzi schemes window dressed as "democratic Govt" ?
Didn't you see the teatards take back America with their mandate last election cycle?
The true patriots stood up and demanded tax cuts for the rich!
Mission Acomplished.
double post!