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“A thief who steals a check payable to bearer becomes the holder of the check… but does not become the owner of it.”

Below is an order from a Florida court that speaks to a major issue
we have been screaming about for well over a year now, if not two. Just because you
hold the note, does not necessarily make you the owner of the note with
the right to enforce.

The way I see it, as a non attorney, is the laws are very clear on this issue but are being ignored to further marginalize the "deadbeats" and prop up the "banks."

Now, don't just take my word on this, there are others with similar opinions as well...

If the courts would just let us get to the documents requested in discovery, it
would show that in the majority of the cases, even if they produce the
original note, they do not have the right to enforce.

For example...

BofA Mortgage Morass Deepens on Promissory Notes Issues

Investor Impact

The Kemp case
is also being examined by lawyers for investors in mortgage-backed
securities. Owners of the bonds have been cooperating in an effort to
force sellers to take back loans, saying they were misled about their
quality. The Wizmur ruling may give investors an additional opportunity
to push for mortgage buybacks on grounds that the bonds weren’t created
in keeping with securitization contracts.

It may mean investors who think they bought mortgage- backed securities bought securities that aren’t backed by anything,” said Kurt Eggert, a professor at Chapman University School of Law in Orange, California.

Countrywide Deals

The securitization contracts related to the Kemp loan, and at least two other Countrywide mortgage-bond transactions, didn’t assign the company the additional role of document custodian for the trust.
Countrywide, as the servicer, can take back the notes from the trustee
when needed to manage foreclosure actions and mortgage payoffs,
according to the contracts.

One risk to investors when notes remain with sellers acting as custodian is that an acquirer or creditor of those companies could walk in and take the notes, the banks that disclosed the practice in mortgage-bond prospectuses warned.

Let's repeat. "An acquirer or creditor of those companies could walk in and take the notes."

Notes they do not own or have otherwise been satisfied or sold etc...

Now, in how many instances can this have happened in the last 4 years,
in where an institution that held onto the notes, has been "acquired" or
taken over by a "creditor"?

I ran out of fingers to count on...

One example that comes to mind with somewhat of a twist is the JPMorgan FDIC WAMU deal...

Did you all know as of August 31st of 2010 that deal was not finalized and it still may be pending?

Washington Mutual JPMorgan Chase FDIC Deal NOT Finalized? So how can JPMorgan Foreclose on WAMU Loans?

Posted by Foreclosure Fraud on August 17, 2010 · 

This is very intriguing… Check out the the excerpts from the report below…

Game Changer?

WaMu sale hasn’t closed, document suggests

month will mark two years since federal regulators seized Washington
Mutual and sold it to JPMorgan Chase for $1.9 billion. Now a document
that appears to be from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation suggests the deal still hasn’t closed.

“Everyone is saying the sale is finalized,” said the shareholder, Farokh Lam, of Woburn, Mass. “It is not.

Lam noticed that on pages 7 and 9, the original WaMu purchase and sale agreement
allows the FDIC to extend the settlement date. He says he asked about
it, and the FDIC confirmed in phone calls and emails that the
settlement date was set for Aug. 30, 2010, and could be extended

Date” means the first Business Day immediately prior to the day which
is one hundred eighty (180) days after Ban Closing, or such other date
prior thereto as may be agreed upon by the Receiver and the Assuming
Bank. The Receiver, in its discretion, may extend the Settlement Date.

It says: “The purpose of this amendment is to extend the time period for Final Settlement to August. 30, 2010.”

WaMu’s final days were chronicled in depth by Puget Sound Business Journal Staff Writer Kirsten Grind in an award-winning series.

this mean that all the WAMU foreclosures being pushed through the
courts by JPMorgan Chase using the FDIC Purchase and Sale Agreement are

Does it mean if they haven’t closed the deal THEY DO NOT OWN THE LOANS OR THEIR SERVICING RIGHTS?

Where are the windfall profits going after the foreclosure sale?

What if the agreement changes before it is finalized?

So many questions…

The JPMorg Wamu FDIC Settlement Date Extension Document Can be Viewed Here...

Regardless of the closing of the deal above, the question still
remains if a holder of a note endorsed in blank actually has the
authority to enforce it without other "evidence" other than the fact
that they possess the note.

For example, if the note had to be transferred by courier to be
delivered to another location for whatever reason, and the courier
decided to keep the note, should he be able to enforce it?

I would think not. (Unless it was in a Florida Rocket Docket Court)

It is no different than the foreclosing entity showing up with a note without the proper chain of title and endorsements...

And that is why this order from the Honorable Judge Tepper was handed down in the case below.

An order, in my opinion, that can not be cured by BAC and their attorneys, but only time will tell...


CASE NO 51-2009-CA-7656-ES

From the Order…

The copy of the note filed by plaintiff shows upon it that it has
been endorsed in blank. Thus, though Plaintiff may be a “holder” it is
not by virtue of such an open indorsement, an owner of it. See F.S.
673.2031, Comment 1: “a thief who steals a check payable to bearer becomes the holder of the check… but does not become the owner of it.”


A: Defendant’s motion to dimiss is GRANTED.

B: Plaintiff shall be granted 30 days to amend its complaint and in doing so MUST:

  • Allege ultimate facts, not conclusions of law, that specifically set
    forth the and identify the present owner of the note and mortgage and
    the present holder of the note and mortgage and in so doing deraign the
    chain of ownership/holdership since the loan’s inception.
  • Allege ultimate facts why the note is indorsed in blank and
    specifically deny, if that be the case, that it or an interest has been
    pledged to another…
  • Plaintiff must specifically plead and identify both the owner and
    the holder of the note and mortgage
    . it is not enough for Plaintiff to
    only plead that it holds the note and mortgagePlaintiff must
    ultimatley prove ownership as well
  • If Plaintiff is not the owner it must specifically plead ultimate
    facts identifying the owner and Plaintiff’s authority
    whether to act as a
    representative for the same attaching such proof of said
    representation authority whether it be by power of attorney or other
    written agency agreement.
  • Allege and identify all documents, by attachment, upon which
    plaintiff relies to establish the ownership of the note and mortgage.
  • Plaintiff shall have 30 days to amended and file a new complaint.
    That said complaint must be verified and that any allegation in the
    verification containing “best knowledge and belief” language is


Lynn Tepper

Good luck on all that BAC!


“A thief who steals a check payable to bearer becomes the holder of the check… but does not become the owner of it.”

Full order below…


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it aint paranoia if they really are out too harm you's picture

“A thief who steals a check payable to bearer becomes the holder of the check… but does not become the owner of it.”

How is this any different than paper fiat money?

We possess the "check", but we do not own squat. 


it aint paranoia if they really are out too harm you's picture
“A thief who steals a check payable to bearer becomes the holder of the check… but does not become the owner of it.”

 There has to be a great slogan mired in this.  To wakeup the sheeple appeal to them in their own "language",  "Entertain me". 


Something  that will go viral, but not Bang da ho.


My apologies if this has been done already.

 By already done, I mean the slogan- Not Bang da ho.  I'm trying to avoid comments on  "has done already" part.  Not as if you've 'done already' the "Ho."



MrSteve's picture

If the best advice is to hire an attorney to clear up the "error" in the misfiled foreclosure suit, she should hire an attorney who will also sue the court in a civil suit for corrupt practices which caused her mental anguish and anxiety. $KaCHING$ Let the judges and the court's Master WAKE UP! and demand genuine due process from attorneys appearing in front of them.

How are the courts any different from the banks if they are also just letting any documentation slide through their process? Like ol' Daniel Boone said, Make sure you're right then go ahead.

Rusty Shorts's picture
Virginia resident gets foreclosure notice on Port St. Lucie home she sold in 1994

honestann's picture

For starters:

Terminate JPM.
Terminate BAC.
Terminate GoldmanShafts.
Terminate the FederalReserve.
Terminate all ratings corporations.
Terminate fractional reserve practices.
Terminate all large financial organizations.
Terminate the federal government of the USSA.

cranky-old-geezer's picture

Wonder why the Judge is giving legal advice to the plaintiff.

Boxed Merlot's picture

If a servicing agency received an insurance payout for the promissory note or portion of notes in a bundle, title ownership for those paid in full accounts is then transferred to the insurance agency that indemnified the lot doesn't it?  And since ultimately, that "insurance agency" was in fact a branch of the government, that would mean title ownership will have come full circle and reverts to the local recording agency that issued the original title upon filing of the notice of completion doesn't it?

Now, how does that work if the Fed exchanged FRNs for Timmy Bills backed by those instruments?  Who is the "owner" now? Do you suppose they'll accept a handful of beads in exchange for the right of possession?

Its the Vatican Stupid's picture

Yeah, the courts will save the defendants.

Yeah, THAT'S the ticket. It's not like THE COURTS are corrupt or anything.

Nah, they'll see the light and act accordingly by making nice, objective, resonable judgements in favor of the little guy-- I can FEEL it.

gwar5's picture

Let the banks fail. Maybe they'll wise up.

If these companies were in another business they'd be gone already.


Bring the Gold's picture

Hey 4closurefraud or anyone else. I have a friend who lives in Oregon who is facing foreclosure partially due to some malfeasance during her attempt to restructure her loan. I'm wondering where I can point her so she can find legal recourse in Oregon. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help here. 

suckapump's picture


I'd start here:

See also:

I'd offer to help your friend, but I'm only admitted to practice in CA, not OR. :-(

HCSKnight's picture

Good, about time.



Captain Benny's picture

Awesome.  Now if only judges would get fed up and ultimately put a stop to this once and for all instead of granting 30 days here and there...

Mr Poopra's picture

Spent my mortgage money on silver bitchez!

66Sexy's picture

Daly vs First Bank of Montgomery

"Only God can create something of value out of nothing." Justice Martin V Mahoney


suckapump's picture

Part of the problem is that words used in law often share two concurrent meanings: 1) the plain, commonly understood meaning; and 2) the legally-significant meaning. The word "holder" is one of these words. In legal terms it does not mean "possessor". It means someone who is legally entitled to the promise it represents. So a "holder" of a note endorsed in blank might actually be entitled to foreclose.

However, to become a holder, you must meet several criteria, not the least of which are: 1) you cannot become a holder as a result of your own fraud; and 2) you must actually own the debt (i.e., the debt cannot have already been sold to an investor, the taxpayer, or both).