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Is ForeclosureGate About To Become The Banking Industry's Stalingrad?

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Will the High Frequency Signing scandal be the proverbial straw on the camel's back. Perhaps. In the meantime, here is a soon to be viral, and all too real, parody of foreclosure gate. At this point the guilty parties are irrelevant. All that matters is that America's terminal collapse into a banana republic status is now obvious for all to see. And as for Cramer saying foreclosure gate will only force home prices to go higher, pray tell dear Jim, just which buyers will put their own money into a home when they have no idea at what time the real title holder shows up with a restraining and eviction order, and demands immediate access. Of course, there is a loophole: the Fed will simply henceforth pay for all home purchases. And should the government drop mortgage rates to zero, and subsidize tax and insurance payments into infinity, that may well happen. Of course, it will also bankrupt the country, but since when was America's insolvency news to anyone...

 

 

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Sun, 10/10/2010 - 15:49 | 639624 Boba Fiat
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Didn't the Russians have a "torched earth" policy that prevented the Germans from gaining any advantage?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 15:56 | 639631 Rodent Freikorps
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Everyone does.

The cold, killing winter is the Russian two-fer.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:17 | 639661 ConfederateH
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Yes, but you have to admit that Tyler comparing our racially pure, er, polically correct leader to Hitler helps to illustrate Obama's gigantic leaps of progress in healing the racial divide.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:23 | 639676 Bob
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Chuckle

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:22 | 639788 Rodent Freikorps
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So Stalingrad is Wall St., and Tyler is Zhukov?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:44 | 639887 Landrew
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Comparing Obummer to Hitler? To me that seems a stretch. Tyler I think is above that sort of thing. I would be interested to know if that was his implication?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:50 | 640000 percolator
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In the video Hitler is a banker, pick one; Jamie Dimon, John Stumpf, Brian Moynihan, Vikram Pandit, Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger, etc...

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:47 | 639891 fuu
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Umm Hitler is not Obama in the clip. He is a banker.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:06 | 639944 hedgeless_horseman
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I hate to be a Nazi, but the subtitle reads AG's, when it should read A's G.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:30 | 639973 Rodent Freikorps
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pe·danti·cal·ly(Adverb)

SYNONYMS:
pedantic, academic, bookish, donnish, scholastic

These adjectives mean marked by a narrow, often tiresome focus on or display of learning and especially its trivial aspects: a pedantic writing style; an academic insistence on precision; a bookish vocabulary; donnish refinement of speech; scholastic and excessively subtle reasoning.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:38 | 640107 SpaceHerpes
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Well played. Sir

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:50 | 640133 jeff montanye
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agreed and i am a pedant.

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 15:54 | 641492 LiquidBrick
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Actually, the word you are looking for is "punctilious" which implies a proper (albeit strict) application of the english language whereas pedantic implies an authoritative/dogmatic color. A slight but important distinction which without we wouldn't be in this mess.

 

punc·til·i·ous

/p??k?t?li?s/ Show Spelled[puhngk-til-ee-uhs] Show IPA –adjective
extremely attentive to punctilios; strict or exact in the observance of the formalities or amenities of conduct or actions.

 

 

 

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 08:15 | 640527 tonyw
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Maybe i'm wrong but I think it is Attorneys General not Attorney's General  :-)

 

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 08:55 | 640576 G-R-U-N-T
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Foreclosure fraud parody prequel...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUusrkyWFY

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 14:19 | 641237 Bob
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Very good. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:37 | 639693 idea_hamster
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Yes, but generally called "scorched earth."

Same tactic beat Napoleon who depended on local assets for food and fuel.  When Napoleon finally took Moscow and found it empty of anything of value, he was done for and couldn't retreat to safe lines before getting cut to pieces by winter, hunger and marauding Cossacks.

I, for one, welcome my new marauding Cossack overlords.  :-)

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:45 | 639709 Boba Fiat
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Oops, meant "scorched earth."  Too many apple martinis.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:18 | 639854 still kicking
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Napoleon was a brilliant battlefield tactician but probably the worst logistics strategist in history.  Maybe that's our problem, Bennie has no clue on the long term strategy.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:53 | 640141 jeff montanye
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at least napoleon knew that "an army travels on its stomach."  i don't get that feeling of even theoretical competence from our (sad) power elite.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:39 | 639696 cossack55
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Yes, followed by the Germans "scorched earth" and the Feds "Bernanked earth".  The last is the most devastating.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:01 | 639742 Testicular Cancer
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Scorched earth, darling.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:01 | 639940 tpberg7
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'Scorched Earth'

Thu, 10/14/2010 - 07:56 | 648706 Bob
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Update: 45,000 views (over 4 days) of this incomparably efficient educational piece regarding the MBS mess. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 15:50 | 639627 Troy Ounce
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No, no, no, not that video again....AAAAaaaahhhhhh....

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:04 | 639642 Nihilarian
Sun, 10/10/2010 - 15:56 | 639629 williambanzai7
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I just put this on my blog and called it "DER FRAUDER"

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:21 | 639824 Mercury
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If someone makes an operatic parody they could call it 'Der Fraudermaus.'

Such is the state of the world right now that re-subtitled versions of 'Der Untergang' seem to sprout like wild mushrooms.

Of course, a very wise woman did a fantastic job adapting this situation-tragedy to the credit crisis in early 2009:  http://equityprivate.typepad.com/

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 15:58 | 639633 frankTHE COIN
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Bernanke is Yuri.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 15:58 | 639634 Harbourcity
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I like the version where they show Hitler "Two women one cup".

Even a 2nd TARP can't solve this. It's so damn big.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:05 | 639643 Boba Fiat
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OT, but Timmy Geithner wants to set you punks straight on the TARP

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/07/AR2010100705081.html?hpid=topnews

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:54 | 639727 Cognitive Dissonance
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Looks like the mainstream media, aka the fawning corporate press, is conditioning the public to believe that TRAP 1.0 was successful beyond our wildest dreams, thus paving the way for TARP 2.0, followed closely by TARPs 3 thru 10.

This article reads like something produced by the Fed or Treasury rather than "news". Of course, for the past few decades, most "news" is really various Pentagon and WH press releases rewritten in the news "repeaters" own words. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 23:02 | 640156 jeff montanye
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does it pretend to news?  isn't it an "op-ed" (agit-prop) credited to timmy (wilmer) gunsel?

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 04:16 | 640437 Lets Hang Parliament
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CD - I like the Feudian slip. Although TRAP is what it has turned out to be!

By the way the "What if it doesnt end with a bang" essays were excellent stuff although I did have to sit in a padded cell to read them properly!

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 06:13 | 640460 Cognitive Dissonance
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That's why I called it TRAP 1.0

It was too subtle but thanks for noticing. :>)

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:04 | 639638 Leo Kolivakis
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"Don't worry, the bankers will get their bonus to pay for us whores"

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:06 | 639639 stormsailor
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no, foreclosuregate is just another landmine, they will walk around it.  and if it were to get serious enough,  they would just have their congress pass a law making it legal for them.

 

we are just pawns.

 

i'll change my views when i see a frontpage news story of a bankster being beaten to death by a crowd, with the cops watching from the background.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:12 | 639651 davidsmith
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Amen.  This, my friend, is revolution as religion.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:28 | 639797 Cammy Le Flage
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How do you know that it not already happening?   Not like someone would "blog" about it.  Who would tell someone?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:42 | 639817 traderjoe
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Cross-posted:


For all those that whine about how this will be swept under the rug, ignored, or otherwise funded by a tax-payer bailout - instead of whining, DO SOMETHING. This is our moment, our chance. Unlike in prior bailouts with crisis's that came quickly and <could> be blamed on a variety of parties, the banks CANNOT BLAME ANYONE ELSE FOR NOT DOING THEIR JOBS (and not transferring notes, proper underwriting, avoiding centuries of RE law, etc., etc.). And then for covering it up by kicking people out of their homes without due process and committing fraud upon the court.

DO SOMETHING. Any one that doesn't, and still complains, deserves what they eventually get.

Some ideas:

Write your state AG to ask them to participate in any investigation. Bring in the MBS issue. Express concern about your own title. Use a friend/family member as a story. Discuss the rule of law. How white collar crime is just as damaging to the health of our society. Ask that they halt foreclosures, but also look deeper into the original sin of this.

Write your hedge fund, pension administrator, bond mutual fund, bond ETF manager to inquire about their knowledge of the situation and if their RMBS has appropriately secured positions in the underlying assets. 

Write an editorial to the paper, asking for them to report on this. Discuss a couple issues. Warn your fellow citizens about the health of their society.

Write to your senators and representatives (state and national) - that they support an investigation in this. Warn them about the idea of bailing out the banks again.

Write a letter to your bank asking for proof of title/loan ownership. I'll scan the web to see if any already exist.

Inform any friends/family in foreclosure or near it of this issue, and its possible ramifications.

Move any checking accounts/money out of the TBTF banks.

Post some information on MSM website/blogs to correct their interpretations of this as just some technical documentation issues.

Any other ideas people have to take action? What would happen if 100,000 people simultaneously asked for proof of loan ownership/standing?

It may not be much for now, but movements start small and grow until they hit the tipping point. That would be our aim.  

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:30 | 639971 michigan independant
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iyDZBAFxKE&feature=watch_response

"Warn your fellow citizens about the health of their society."

Forgive them for they know what they do....

 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 20:57 | 639935 apberusdisvet
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Jim Willie has implied that over at F&F, some executives were assisted suicided because they knew too much about the whole scam.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 23:35 | 640201 Katharotes
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wondered about some of those deaths. need to learn more.

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 00:03 | 640242 Rodent Freikorps
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That's a scary thing.

 

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 00:56 | 642544 palmereldritch
Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:04 | 639640 99er
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Waiting For Deepthroat

Remember The Washington Post's early coverage of Watergate? Well, take a look at today's Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/foreclosure-freeze/index.html

Pulitzer.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:16 | 639657 Bob
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JR and I had this debate a couple days ago.  Hate to say--nahh, love to say I told ya so!

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:43 | 639701 Careless Whisper
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dewd, you can't trust the globalist elite bilderberg controlled washington post.

the national freeze on foreclosures will be followed by a bankster bailout. y else would they have the freeze?

this is an issue for the states.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:52 | 639723 Bob
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So it's important for the news to get out in order to bring pressure upon the States to protect themselves and their citizens. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:00 | 639740 Careless Whisper
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yes its important for the news to get out, but i'm not looking for the states to protect anyone. it's up to the citizens to protect themselves by simply forcing the banks to abide by the (state) laws. an illegal foreclosure, is illegal. there are plenty of fraud, perjury, forgery, and racketerring laws on the states books. they need to be enforced. that goes for civil and criminal laws.

 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:33 | 639805 Bob
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The average citizen in foreclosure is broke, so unable to afford the attorneys that it takes.  Let's hope the state AG's pick up the stick. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 20:59 | 639937 apberusdisvet
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There will be plenty of class action suits that even broke sheeple can tie into.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:58 | 640015 JLee2027
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Class action suits were invented by the legal profession and profit only the legal profession.
Mon, 10/11/2010 - 08:07 | 640519 anontrol
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Class actions are great for tort law, but these are frauds against the court and fall into the criminal domain.  States are going to use the proceeds to repopulate their emptied coffiers... that is, unless the federal government takes a personal interest and begins bailing states out with the pervisio that they do not pursue.

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 08:04 | 640516 anontrol
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> The Washington Post's [...] Pulitzer.

 

Which is a god damned shame because I first got wind of the story about a month ahead of schedule via Mother Jones:

 

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/07/david-stern-djsp-foreclosure-fan...

 

The part about the Chinese buying these foreclosure mills... absolute gold!

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:09 | 639644 Matto
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So which 0H regular put that together?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:49 | 639719 Xibalba
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Marla.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:54 | 639728 bugs_
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She's not regular

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:36 | 639810 abalone
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Lack of fibre?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:41 | 639815 Bob
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Double jointed. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:10 | 639645 Millivanilli
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The systemic fraud called MBS, CMBS, CDOs and CDS, an alphabet soup of scandal, is about to cause a seizure in the housing and commercial real estate sectors.  The banksters were given trillions because they were Too Big Too Fail.   Criminals like Mozilo, Thain, Dimon, Fuld, Lewis and many many more knowingly sold fraudulent securities on to pension funds.  The rabbit is out of the hat and a growing chorus of lawsuits are gaining traction from Florida to California.

 

Charges include 1. Inflating appraisals and pushing borrowers into risky loans and unaffordable mortgages.  2. Packaging bad loans and then pooling them as AAA for sale to unwitting investors.  

3. Knowingly granting loans on ALT A, Opt ARM, etc  which the borrowers would never be able to pay.   

 

As Janet Tavakoli has stated this is "the greatest fraud in the history of capital markets."  JPM, GS, BOFA, ML, Bear Stearns, Wells Fargo, Washington Mutal, and many others were involved in this outrageous scam.  

 

The notary issue is but a small aspect of the systemic fraud that was perpetrated on the people of this country.   If justice is not served and Too Big Too Fail is deemed Too Big To Prosecute, then we have gone from a supposed Republic to a Lawless Plutocracy.   

 

They came close to getting Ken Lewis on the stand but when he implicated Bernanke and Paulson, he disappeared from the radar screen.  

 

These cases are cropping up around the country and as more and more documents see the light of day, I suspect that many of our representatives, senators, judges, and others will be implicated in the aforementioned crimes.    

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:15 | 639655 davidsmith
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And just remember what the point of this little conspiracy is:

 

TO HIDE BAD DEBT ON BANK BOOKS.

 

So many people get it wrong.  They don't get the point.  They think that the point was to rush foreclosures in order to recover on bad debts.  The U.S. government LONG AGO forgave home mortgage debt.  They've run the numbers, they know there is nothing to be recovered.  So what was the point of everything from making HAMP difficult to forging affidavits?

 

HIDE BAD DEBT ON BANK BOOKS.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:53 | 639725 Rusty Shorts
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 - okay davidsmith, you have stated several times, that the U.S. Gov. has forgave mortage debt, can you please provide the documentation?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:26 | 640075 Hephasteus
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Indebters don't know how to forgive. They get you to do it for them and claim they forgave. IE transfer it from your debt to taxpayers.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:47 | 639712 A Man without Q...
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I'm guessing that the majority of the MBS are now held by the GSEs, which are guaranteed by the Federal government and secondly, the Fed.

The situation is very clear, the taxpayer is the owner of trillions worth of fraudulent assets.  If the government decides to rewrite the law, in order to protect the banks, this will be the greatest "get out of jail" card even granted.  I think they tried to sneak it past with the IRON legislation, but they got caught out and Obama knew he couldn't let it slip.  Now, the facts are reaching a broader audience and the "it's about deadbeats trying to get a free house" line is starting be be seen past.  It's about massive, widespread fraud.

The public frustration with the current status quo is reaching a fever pitch.  The thing I have noticed is how angry American have become - angry with immigrants, Muslims, "socialists", progressives, whatever, but they have been angry and confused because they know they are being threatened, but have not realized it is the financial elites and their political cronies that are the greatest threat to their way of life and have been fucking them over for decades..  

In some ways, I would like to see the politicians fix it for the bankers again, because then it may create sufficient anger to tear down the edifices of the corruption and cronyism that are destroying the country.  If they decide to take radical action, and seize the banks, wipe out shareholders etc, the anger may dissipate, but those to blame will have sold their holdings weeks and months ago (they will have been warned what is coming) and the system will go quiet for a while and then slowly start to reform.

 

As an aside, I had an amusing thought.  Imagine the reference assets John Paulson's "greatest ever trade" are found to be faulty, and essentially unwound.  Imagine his synthetic CDO trade is cancelled and the billions he made needs to be returned.  Now imagine that the money made has now been invested in US bank stocks, which collapse owing to the fraud cases.  Maybe he could go from being a billionaire to a minus billionaire?  Now, that would be an amusing twist in the tale...

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:31 | 639801 Bob
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Perhaps you're right about even Judges being involved.  Fortunately for them, they all enjoy judicial immunity.  Nonetheless, perhaps it would behoove them to stand up and show the backbone and moral integrity that even Judges in Columbia and Pakistan have demonstrated.  At the very least, there's plausible deniability to consider . . . come election time. And the Judicial Bar Commissions that will be hard pressed to demonstrate some kind of integrity to maintain their position vis a vis public confidence. 

We'll soon see if there is any semblence of real law in this country. 

As for Paulson, that's hilarious.  He'll need his buddies to put together a legal defense fund.  Hope they can spare a few bucks . . . and stand the heat.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:10 | 639647 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Okay Bob, you win. ;)

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:55 | 639662 Bob
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I was dicking around with you on the "MERS Self Preservation" thread when it went up!  FWIW, see my remarks there.  And I did hear ya, OGW.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:11 | 639650 davidsmith
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Just remember who Der Frauder is: 

 

Barry.

 

A black Nazi.  Who knew?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:55 | 639682 Bob
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While I appreciate your concern about him getting off scott-free, it is the banksters whom Hitler represents.  If this does go viral, it will behoove Barry to differentiate himself from his Wall Street constituency. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:13 | 639652 Cyan Lite
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TARP 2.0 in 3...2....1...

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:13 | 639653 davidsmith
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Just make sure you depose the servicers and subpoena the documents so you can find out who in the Administration ordered the fraud.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:43 | 639659 nuinut
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Of course, there is a loophole: the Fed will simply henceforth pay for all home purchases.

Damn right they will, they have to, one way or another...

 

...all bonds (and other kinds of debt instruments) threatened with default will end up being owned by the Federal Reserve. And ultimately, the Fed will print physical cash to meet the contractual terms of these bonds.

Everyone will get paid, but in doing so, the huge quantity of dollars printed will be practically worthless. The debts were pre-existing in this quantity, so they are not really cheating the savers at all. The savers cheated themselves, back when they chose to hold their savings as mere claims in the system.

from Combustible Illusions

 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:05 | 639943 apberusdisvet
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Hey does anyone out there know how to make change for the new $1 billion FRN; I understand it will printed in black and blue.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:34 | 639979 nuinut
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with a cleaver

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:19 | 639664 G-R-U-N-T
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Hm...Yep this pretty much sums it up!

When is the  "Cap-and-Trade Fraud Parody" going to be released?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:20 | 639669 Akrunner907
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LOL...........Now that is classic, even if it is a recycled video.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:37 | 639678 99er
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Quote of the Day

Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.
Sun Tzu

(Reuters) - From currency battles to computerized corporate espionage, fractious international conferences to a new scramble for Africa, "great power politics" is back on the map. The growing power of emerging economies -- particularly China, Russia, India and Brazil -- is redrawing the priorities of foreign and defense ministries, driving financial markets and reshaping the global business environment. Speaking in Geneva last month, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger compared the approach of powers "emerging into confident nationhood" to those of states in the 19th or early 20th centuries. Their rivalries eventually triggered the carnage of World War One. The rise of China in particular is putting international relationships and systems into flux, Kissinger warned. "Chaos may occur but when it does it will sooner or later settle down to some new order," he said -- saying it was essential that statesmen managed this process well to "save humanity from untold suffering."

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:58 | 639736 Bob
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Who needs the Devil when you've got Kissinger minding mankind's affairs?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:38 | 639880 Cathartes Aura
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incarnate.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:28 | 639683 Screwball
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I was talking to some people on another board.  I posted an article that made this mess as simple and understandable as possible.  I wanted to see how many had even heard about it, and what they thought of course.

As it turned out there was a guy who claimed (at first) he was in the business and this was all a bunch of shit.  There is a thing called a "quiet title" which will solve all the problems.  Since I am not a real estate person or a lawyer, I had no idea.  I looked that up and couldn't see how that would work but kept it under consideration.

As that conversation went on, he claimed his 20 plus years in the industry with both big banks and then the mortgage industry - and I was just full of shit.  So I politely told him to kindly give me the names of who he worked for so I could avoid doing business with them.

Countrywide!  I about fell off my chair.  I told him Mazilo's trail started this month, I hope he goes to jail for life, and summed my little rant up with the famous "Jump you Fuckers" sign.  I was fun, I felt better, might even have a beer. :-)

But I do wonder just how big this could be, or how big they will let it get.  This will get papered over somehow.  We live in the day where we wonder what justice is, we don't get to see it.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:47 | 639710 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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If you haven't seen it - the "Jump you Fuckers" sign you mention and rehashed videos...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yge311sFhC8

 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:32 | 639686 win
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oh please

just another crisis

staged, pandered, choreographed

all for the benefit of votes

the squatters didn't pay,

the mortgages are in default

the "homeowners" are underwater

no equity = no homeowner interest

the banks are in a pissing contest with whom? exactly?

not the homeowner? nope, the homeowner stopped paying!

The banks are in a pissing contest with themselves, with MERS.

Poor bankers - one could almost feel sorry for em, but that would be like feeling sorry for a grizzly bear or a shark or a lawyer

 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:36 | 639690 Uncle Remus
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Die Kacke ist am Dampfen.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:39 | 639694 lynnybee
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L O L ......... I never thought I'd get to the point in my life where I'd be laughing about this stuff..... I keep going deeper into this story, it's so compelling !

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:41 | 639700 Rock N Roll Det...
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Who was playing Rahm Emanuel?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:44 | 639705 lynnybee
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oh dear, thank you for  posted this ... i'm rolling off my chair & will be sending this to all my friends ...... so funny !  I ADORE IT !  & your website, you are so creative & smart.   

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:48 | 639718 bankonzhongguo
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Regrettably I had some words with the very insightful D9K9. 

I am still asking for any concrete example of anyone anywhere prevailing in any of this foreclosure-gate.  I am not talking about some far-away GMAC federal class action.  I am talking about combating the meat and potatoes non-judicial foreclosure process.  If there is a California case with an electronic docket showing any defendant successfully throwing a monkey in the wrench of the TBTF foreclosure buzz-saw, every real estate attorney and homeowner cum squatter would like to know these venues, motions, causes and tactics.

I still think the solution is to call in Final Protective Fire on every county recorder's office, or just begin to file bogus re-conveyances and quit claim deeds to cloud title.  Let the banks pay the lawyers to sort it all out in say 20 years.

 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:08 | 639755 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Love your optimism.  Lawyers and banksters having work in 20 years. 

There is a noteworthy scene in the movie "Defiance" where after the Jews and the Russians run off into the Belarussian woods to avoid being killed by the Germans.   On their journey they start to figure out who has what skills to sustain their new in-the-woods life.  Of course the farmer, the baker and the blacksmith all were smiled upon but when the accountant and lawyer raised their hand announcing their trade, they really weren't too sure what good they were going to be to the tribe.

Life in it's simplist community doesn't take a bankster or lawyer to trade or sort things out, trade happens with real physical things and disputes are settled with laws and brute force. 

Hmmm - sort of has a Darwinian ring to it doesn' t it.

I have a feeling that where were going, we won't need any Lawyers. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:09 | 639952 apberusdisvet
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All of the 3 you mentioned would have a use as the fuckees when the tribe sought physical pleasure; sort of  like how Barney Frank has stayed in office all these years.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:50 | 639720 nwskii
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i'm going to the court house to look at my mortgage, it is in the MERS system and Bank of America is begging to refi my loan.  Does anyone have any pointers on what I should be looking for or asking for?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:11 | 639770 JLee2027
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Look it up on-line:

https://www.mers-servicerid.org/sis/search

Take a screenshot of whatever you find and save it - so they can't change it.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:29 | 639865 Hulk
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Mine was incorrect! The MERS emps were probably watching porn too. Thanks for the link.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 19:02 | 639913 Bob
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It seems that MERS is actually just a shell, no employees at all.  Crazy but true.  It's just a web portal run by its shareholders, the MBS banks!

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:54 | 639986 Careless Whisper
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It seems that MERS is actually just a shell, no employees at all.

bob, you gotta start highlighting the important stuff. i couldn't believe it, but you are correct. here's a deposition of an officer of MERS admitting zero employess for the past five years!

http://stopforeclosurefraud.com/2010/08/27/exclusive-mers-deposition-of-secretary-and-treasurer-of-merscorp-42010/

hey, all you wanna be fraudsters, for $95 per month you too can have a virtual office at the same address where MERS has their "global headquarters" with zero employees; 1818 library street, reston virginia 20190

https://www.davincivirtual.com/loc/us/virginia/reston-virtual-offices/facility-848

 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:46 | 640124 Bob
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I said it sounds crazy . . . glad you found the link. 

 

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 02:14 | 640376 Hulk
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I didn't doubt you for a minute Bob, just kind of drifted off into the land of disbelief...

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 23:06 | 640147 i-dog
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One of the MERS "shareholders" is the Mortgage Bankers Association ... which also has no fixed abode!

They started renting after they strategically defaulted on the underwater mortgage on their $75 million "headquarters". Their hubris in calling for homeowners NOT to default was exposed on Jon Stewart last week.

The layer upon layer of scam is mind boggling!

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 08:37 | 640550 Bob
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A transparent uber-criminal circle jerk. 

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 10:21 | 640709 Cvillian
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Have a friend in the legal field advise you as well.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 16:53 | 639724 bankonzhongguo
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Here is a little birdhouse for your soul. White House doubts need to halt all foreclosures

WASHINGTON — A top White House adviser questioned the need Sunday for a blanket stoppage of all home foreclosures, even as pressure grows on the Obama administration to do something about mounting evidence that banks have used inaccurate documents to evict homeowners.

"It is a serious problem," said David Axelrod, who contended that the flawed paperwork is hurting the nation's housing market as well as lending institutions. But he added, "I'm not sure about a national moratorium because there are in fact valid foreclosures that probably should go forward" because their documents are accurate.

Axelrod said the administration is pressing lenders to accelerate their reviews of foreclosures to determine which ones have flawed documentation.

"Our hope is this moves rapidly and that this gets unwound very, very quickly," he said.

With the reeling economy already the top issue on voters' minds, the doubts raised over foreclosures and evictions are becoming a political issue with the approach of Nov. 2 elections.

Underscoring those pressures, two leading lawmakers took opposing stances on the wisdom of a moratorium.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., a top House Democrat, said she backed a foreclosure moratorium and government talks with the banking industry to concoct ways to let lenders reshape troubled mortgages. She said the foreclosure problem has been "extremely vexing" in her state.

The No. 2 House Republican, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, said a national moratorium would remove the protections that lenders need.

"You're going to shut down the housing industry" with a national stoppage, Cantor said. "People have to take responsibility for themselves."

In recent days, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in a tough re-election race, urged five large mortgage lenders to suspend foreclosures in his state until they establish ways to make sure homeowners don't lose their homes improperly. Attorney General Eric Holder said that the government is looking into the matter, and Democratic lawmakers urged bank regulators and the Justice Department to probe whether mortgage companies violated laws in handling foreclosures.

The attorneys general of up to 40 states plan to shortly announce a joint investigation into banks' use of flawed foreclosure paperwork, a person familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press late Saturday.

On Friday, Bank of America became the first bank to halt foreclosures in all 50 states. Three other institutions — JPMorgan Chase & Co., Ally Bank's GMAC Mortgage unit and PNC Financial — have stopped foreclosures in the 23 states where foreclosures must be approved by a judge.

President Barack Obama vetoed a bill last week that would have made it easier for banks to approve foreclosure documents, which the White House said could hurt consumers.

Axelrod spoke on CBS' "Face the Nation" while Wasserman Schultz and Cantor appeared on "Fox News Sunday."

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:11 | 639748 Bob
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Axelrod--what a fucking ignorant tool. 

Fortunately, he and Barry are ultimately just politicians, which means they will answer to the polls . . . if we get the word out. 

And there's that disgraceful place holder, AG Eric Holder:

Attorney General Eric Holder said that the government is looking into the matter, and Democratic lawmakers urged bank regulators and the Justice Department to probe whether mortgage companies violated laws in handling foreclosures.

Affirmative action or not, he's gonna have to be moved out.  The man is a disgrace to his own people . . . not to mention his nation as a whole. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:14 | 639774 JLee2027
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The Federal Government can whine all it wants. Property rights are issues controlled by the state and county you live in.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:16 | 639779 Bob
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I'm looking ahead to the threat of a TARP 2 for the banksters. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:39 | 639812 traderjoe
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"gets unwound very, very quickly" - a Freudian slip?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:04 | 640033 JLee2027
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Yup. The snowball is rolling.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:09 | 640040 williambanzai7
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What can I say...talking fool with head up his ass!

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:52 | 639896 NorthenSoul
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Thosein DC are all incredible fuckheads. Axelrod trying to minimize the extent of the problem while the vapid, vomitive and morally depraved Cantor just place all the guilt on the individual

The No. 2 House Republican, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, said a national moratorium would remove the protections that lenders need.

"You're going to shut down the housing industry" with a national stoppage, Cantor said. "People have to take responsibility for themselves."

and cannot bring himself to even mention, let alone denounce the systematic FRAUD perpetrated by the banks and MERS. I hate this rear echelon motherfucker.

 

 

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 00:19 | 640268 trav7777
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Eric "Place" Holder is only in a rush to prosecute white people who are anti-Obama or who otherwise dislike blacks

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 08:50 | 640560 Bob
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Yeah, right, he's just breathless from relentlessly pursuing the banksters night and day.  Must you divert this into a race issue?

I would hope that even with such passions, you could see the importance of keeping your eye on the ball here?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:52 | 639898 Ned Zeppelin
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To drill down, Axelrod is right: not every foreclosure is defective.  Only those involving a MBS owner securitised during the CMBS boom years, say 2002-2007-1/2.  This could be figured out. But while everyone is whining about foreclosures, the value of all of these MBSs will become zero rather quickly. Mid week?

Listen to all the bagholders out there gasping for air as they realize they will be getting a margin call due to the fact that their collateral is suddenly illiquid, and thus subject to quite a hefty haircut. Haven't heard that part of this story yet.

 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 19:06 | 639915 Bob
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Ahhh, something to look forward to.  Coming soon to a market near you!  Hope you're right. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:33 | 639978 michigan independant
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Your opinion will be vitale since to many are looking at the blanket only to the statement and not the fact's...

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 00:07 | 640256 Milestones
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I think I'd revise those years of concern. A friend of mine near San Diego's mortgage is fucked up and it goes back to 1999. Also if there was any refinancing during the entire 2000's I would think those people are going to be involved. This is going to be massive.

The interesting part in the whole thing is Mr. "O" has just been handed the ace, king and queen of trump from out of the hand of the bankers. Sorry baby, ya know this thing is out of my hands. Ya want my help this is what your gonna have to do for me and merica. The question is; does he have the balls and brains to use it?    Milestones

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:02 | 640812 Bob
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Amen.

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 00:25 | 640275 trav7777
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Assholerod wants this very badly, like the BP spill, to go away.

Rumors coming from my sources suggest that the Obama administration will begin spraying Corexit on the MERS HQ hoping that this problem will disperse...

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 08:51 | 640574 Bob
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+10

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:04 | 639747 LeBalance
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Buy and Real Estate?

Come on...the very notion of completing that purchase in this environment?

/ha ... ha .... ha .... hahahahahahahahahahaha/

So now that no one can contemplate the purchase of Real Estate is there any doubt of the next head, shoulders, torso, waist, hip, quad, and leg DOWN!

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:06 | 639749 steveo
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The middle chart is GLD/SLV. You can see this is an excellent indicator, when this ratio is at a bottom, the market usually tanks, within 3 to 5 days, but sometimes immediately. The trick is figuring out when the bottom is. 
 
This top chart is SPY/VIX I plotted it just to see if any interesting effects came up....none really 
 
The Bottom chart is SPX, the S&P 500, follow each purple line from the GLD/SLV bottoms. Amazing methinks. The two highlighted candle patterns are similar, the first one started the Head of the infamous 2009 Head and Shoulders Bear trap. The second one is NOW. 
 
And finally, a boatload of other charts for your free consumption. 
 
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Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:06 | 639751 steveo
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The middle chart is GLD/SLV. You can see this is an excellent indicator, when this ratio is at a bottom, the market usually tanks, within 3 to 5 days, but sometimes immediately. The trick is figuring out when the bottom is. 
 
This top chart is SPY/VIX I plotted it just to see if any interesting effects came up....none really 
 
The Bottom chart is SPX, the S&P 500, follow each purple line from the GLD/SLV bottoms. Amazing methinks. The two highlighted candle patterns are similar, the first one started the Head of the infamous 2009 Head and Shoulders Bear trap. The second one is NOW. 
 
And finally, a boatload of other charts for your free consumption. 
 
Like this stuff? Sign up as a follower and then follow on your Google reader. 
 
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Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:10 | 639762 BW
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Was that John Paulson in the video?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:14 | 639773 Testicular Cancer
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Wow, did the anointed one actually do something that was anti-bank? He will be a one-termer fo shore!

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:41 | 639882 Thunder Dome
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I give Obama 10% chance of going AWOL and completely screwing the banksters.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:49 | 640131 Bob
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Putting the heat of public awareness on him is our best hope.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:16 | 639778 no life
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Which is worse to have on the books, a foreclosure or a loan that isn't performing?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:45 | 639889 nuinut
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Who cares when you can sell it to the Fed at par?

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:57 | 639904 no life
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That is what they are forcing to happen, even though it looks like they are the ones getting in trouble here.. it's all a big scheme.  I don't understand the accounting and who's got what incentive to do what, but putting all the heap of toxic mess onto the Fed, I do.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:18 | 639780 Zeilschip
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The Spurs video's are hilarious.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsAO2N83vVw

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:25 | 639791 What_Me_Worry
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"Don't worry, the bankers will still get their bonus to pay for us whores."

That is gold!

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:31 | 639803 Leo Kolivakis
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"My balance sheet is fucked"

No it isn't...Fed will keep rates at at historic lows so you can borrow at zero and trade high yielding risk assets all around the world. Another financial orgy coming right up!

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 17:35 | 639809 Segestan
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Darn.. and I was hoping to watch a film of the Bolshevik murders. Maybe the bankers will get saved by 'mother nature'.. like the Bolsheviks....at Stalingrad.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:38 | 639879 Thunder Dome
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My balance sheet is fucked!

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:41 | 639884 Goldenballs
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Some escaped Stalingrad.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:42 | 639885 gwar5
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Alan Greespan's is stretching his face from grinning so much. He got to duck out before the SHTF. He left a big smelly one and didn't bother to turn on the fan before he left.

 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 18:51 | 639894 Cojones
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In Europe none of this is in the news, it simply doesn't exist. I'm trying hard to 'educate' my measly 260 followers on twitter about the upcoming disaster that, without a shadow of a doubt, will have practically the same devastating effect on the european economy as it will have on the US's.

 So Tyler, that RT-ing and linking SOB in dutch is me. This has to get out to everyone.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 20:13 | 639927 grunk
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Can't wait to see how the Russian and Chinese Mafia react when they find that their hard-earned drug/bribery/white slavery money was laundered into bad paper.  Paulson and Geitner will need to go into witness protection.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:01 | 639941 Bob
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Or, better yet, work it off in the brothels. 

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 20:54 | 639933 contrabandista13
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I think Tiberius said it best.....

 

"Governing Rome is like holding a wolf by it's ears...."

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:15 | 639955 hedgeless_horseman
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From in front, or behind?  That makes ALL the difference.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:54 | 640143 berated
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outstanding.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:44 | 639991 johngaltfla
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Banana Republic, hmmm, where have I heard that before....

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 21:54 | 640009 onlooker
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Alan Greespan's talks when he was in power were circle jerk shuck and jive. Now he speaks in english. He was better off then. i have no respect for this individual.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:13 | 640046 exodus11
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This is hilarious.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:15 | 640051 monopoly
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Maybe, just maybe something good will come out of this fraud, deceit and lying banksters. Tyler, that was a great clip, and yes, of course Hitler is a banker.

Perfect

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 22:37 | 640101 contrabandista13
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I said Rome not Greece, however it was Tiberius...

 

I agree, it does make all the difference...  Either way your fucked...  Not the wolf, you....

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 23:40 | 640212 HungrySeagull
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I wonder if someday some will make a movie such as:

 

"The Hudsucker Proxy" based on the current cesspool that now has started to bubble over out of DC and the big banks.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 23:58 | 640235 infotechsailor
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"NO CAMPAIGN DONATIONS FOR YOU!" ---- and then I completely lost it! LMFAO!

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 03:01 | 640410 Lux Fiat
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Very well done.  I would love to see the folks who did this video tackle some more recent films, ala MST 3000.  They could probably make great fodder out of a CSI episode as well.  Instead of a body laying on the ground, it would be a notarized affidavit.

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 06:45 | 640474 obelisks
Mon, 10/11/2010 - 09:02 | 640589 Bob
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Very nice

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