Forget The VIX: SKEW Tells The True Story About Hedging Market Risk

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Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:47 | 1185077 Catherine007
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Well Obamaaaaa looks very tired - battled out man?? Hahahah

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:50 | 1185080 I think I need ...
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well little timmy was on this morning and he said he was going to save the middle class and that made me feel so much better

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:50 | 1185083 RobotTrader
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The PigMen are trying their hardest to paint nipple bottoms everywhere.

Today, they are gunning for a "tradeable low" on KRE.

Perhaps another "Extend and Pretend" or "Mark to Fantasy" edict is forthcoming out of Sheila Bair?

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:58 | 1185112 Muir
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"The PigMen are trying their hardest to paint nipple bottoms everywhere."



Your poetry is lost on most of the peasantry, Robo.



But take heart, poetry it is. 


Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:50 | 1185085 SheepDog-One
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'Retail getting duped' cant mean Robotrader! He loves caressing his daily retail stock boner chart, and saying things like-

'The market is not pricing in QE3 it is pricing in a massive consumer-lead recovery'

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:07 | 1185142 Dick Darlington
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Gotta love that, lol.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:12 | 1185154 Dick Darlington
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Gotta love that, lol.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:51 | 1185087 SheepDog-One
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Watch out for that Apple, Robo! Full of maggots. Warnings of 50% drop offs in IPads, etc. Not too good!

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:53 | 1185092 carbonmutant
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Damn, Skewed Again...

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:53 | 1185093 Muir
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"there is a rather dramatic difference when looking between the VIX and SKEW indices. In essence what is happening is that everyone is selling ATM short-dated vol and buying mid-term Out of the Money vol as expressed by the SKEW"


Fat tails, bitchez!


Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:31 | 1185259 reload
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This has been a tried and tested strategy since the late 1980`s in the Forex market. A big move and boom, you are a hero. In those days traders exploitd less sophisticated `risk management` from their overlords and could take big positions this way slightly off the radar. IIRC this was the way Andy Krieger at Bankers trust became so legendary. Anybody remember him? last I heard (probably 20 years ago!) he had become a recluse on a Greek Island.

Great article TD, thanks for reminding me of the significance of the SKEW.




Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:42 | 1185329 Mercury
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 07:11 | 1187330 projectxland
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reload - not junking you on Andy Krieger as he definitely had the rep but 1 year after he left BT - they had to restate option p/l by $80m ...also interesting that some journos trying to dig deeper into what John Key (current pm) knew about the collapse of the kiwi in 87...

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:55 | 1185094 RobotTrader
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More Nipple Bottoms posted here:

Could be a fakeout, but who knows?  Gotta play it just in case.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:56 | 1185099 RobotTrader
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Tough call.

They are ramping it to suck people in.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:11 | 1185158 SheepDog-One
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LOL, on zero volume. Stench of desperation everywhere.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:54 | 1185100 joebren
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I still think VIX works pretty well as a contrary indicator.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:03 | 1185132 topcallingtroll
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Mean reversion is very robust, but who would have thought it could drop so low? Those who tried to buy.volatility at all the logical times probably didnt do so well.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 16:07 | 1185474 chunkylover42
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pretty much.  flip it upside down if you want to get a better sense of how "risky" the market is.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:57 | 1185101 Beatscape
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Fascinating.  I did not know about the SKEW index.  Seems a better way to track volatility: "SKEW demonstrates the difference between ATM and OTM options".  Good work, Tyler.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 19:53 | 1186250 slewie the pi-rat
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thanks.  i got upset looking for the VIX chart. 

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:59 | 1185107 LawsofPhysics
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Blah blah blah, what is the trade?

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:02 | 1185119 topcallingtroll
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Risk off

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:30 | 1185258 Beatscape
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The trade has been to sell ATM put options on equities--volatility is being squashed.  It's been working just fine.  Just be aware of the coming cataclysm and cover these in a hurry if a 8.x earthquake hits California.

Equities have survived 3 ME revolutions, a biblical tsunami in the world 3rd largest economy, "headline" inflation, downward revisions to US GDP, a double-dip in US housing prices... The Phed will just keeping printing to make it all okay.  The Zimbabwe stock market will keep rising along with PMs.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 14:58 | 1185117 topcallingtroll
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My underwear me the code brown alert.

It is always a little early but the big money now seems to be preparing for a correction and some risk off.for a while.

Like i said if the correction is anticipated.for the end of qe2 along with return of deflationary fears, then it will probably happen a little earlier.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 07:06 | 1187315 projectxland
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best technical indicator description - luv it!

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:02 | 1185124 Long-John-Silver
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I found RobotTrader on youtube. Now I understand him perfectly, including his attraction to women with large breasts.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:02 | 1185130 gordengeko
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Would be curious to see if short interest is picking up.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:05 | 1185131 Sudden Debt
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It's already complicated enough for a simple retail trader like me :)

My explorer is already filled with shortcuts of dozens of indicators and I only use them to follow up. Not the make decisions for purchases. Not that I even made any these last 3 months.

The bullion is all I care for these last few months.


Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:03 | 1185134 The Axe
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Tyler thank you very helpful..

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:15 | 1185167 jkjacksonhole
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How do i chart SKEW with stock charts? it does not recognize the symbol


Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:17 | 1185173 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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That's a good one.

So the market is going up in inverse correlation to fear which is inversely correlated to the VIX since ATM options are like the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind while the Skew reveals the squirming lizard brain, alive and kicking in the top 1% of wealth holders who work so hard at stealing wealth from all of the other 99% of the populace that they are terrified of losing one dime and will gladly pay up to protect their asses (did I miss a "t" there?). What if Bennie gets hit by a brick or falls off of a horse or is found on a park bench with a note and a hole in his head?

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:20 | 1185208 No Bid
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SKEW didn't respond to the Japanese nuclear situation, the biggest story on this site for the last month.  VIX did.  

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:22 | 1185219 buzzsaw99
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when you're a maggot billionaire, with a a deficient moral code, your sense of right and wrong, fair and unfair will always be tragically SKEWed...


[/Fat Bastard]

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 15:57 | 1185358 Cdad
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You forgot to mention the VXX and VXZ creation units machines...and how they allow criminal syndicate Wall Street bankers to sell infinity shares in risk.  Those machines, btw, should be pretty near to meltin' down at this point.

Or....maybe that is exactly what your story says.   Hmmmmmm?

Fuck it, goin' back down my cosmic bunny hole with the gnomes 'cause I cannot figure what the hockey helmet wearin' kid standing in the center of the NYSE floor clapping for himself [aka S&P] is thinking while barbarous metals go to all time freakin' highs right before folk start tradin' ounces for ammunition.

Good grief [and by that I mean when are those NYSE boys going to put the mouthguards in?]

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 16:07 | 1185475 Mercury
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That's VXX and VXZ.  Both have been great shorts!

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 06:33 | 1187288 ZeroPower
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Hence the reverse splits.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 03:41 | 1187166 Burnsy
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Have a look at the mutual fund cash levels as of feb this year. Noone left to buy size if this market starts selling off.


Wed, 04/20/2011 - 07:30 | 1187380 Remington IV
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Herbert Hoover


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Wed, 04/20/2011 - 09:58 | 1187807 Jim B
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