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Former CIA Analyst Tells Truth About Libya Intervention On CNN, Hilarity Ensues

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Former CIA analyst Michael Scheuer appeared on CNN and told his lovely blonde and brunette anchors the truth about what is really happening. The hilarious Stepford Wives reaction and the unprecedented cognitive dissonance the ensues is worth the price of admission.

 

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Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:01 | 1132724 Carl Spackler-t...
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Having chicks moderate a discussion about the CIA and military operations is about as much fun as having a chick be a play-by-play voice on an NFL game.  You get all sorts of messed-up references and stupid questions.

Reminds me of the stupid questions I get when my girlfriend asks me questions during a football game. 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:09 | 1133068 Weaseldog
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In all fairness, there are women who can accurately report the news in an intelligent manner.

The media just doesn't want to employ those women anymore. They recently fired the last one, for speaking her mind about Israel.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:04 | 1134012 Rula Lenska
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8 (as of this writing) junks---wtf????

Guess it's gotta be the Israel reference.....sheesh, talk about intolerant!

 

btw, I hadn't heard about the fired newscaster, Wdog; can you post a link?  Thanks.

edit: Nevermind.  You talking about Helen Thomas?  I thought it was recent event.

 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:35 | 1134221 naughtius maximus
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The media doesn't want inquisitive, thoughtful, resourceful, people in any respect period. The media is not here to inform you, it is here to sell you stocks and deodorant. 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 17:54 | 1134591 Hicham
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Unfortunately the women who can accurately reports the news, would be dismissed by many as ugly, mannish etc, and therefore undeserving of their attention. It's a lose-lose proposition- if she's attractive, dismissed as a bimbo, if ugly, dismissed as..ugly.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:44 | 1135727 Arkadaba
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Oh, and there are men out there that are accurately reporting the news? You are focussing on the wrong thing. (Which I could respond to in detail but figure it is not worth it).

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 03:05 | 1135867 Hicham
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"I"m" focussing on the wrong thing? I'm pointing out the foolishness of attacking these anchors on the basis of (1) their gender and (b) their appearance. Ok there is accuracy, and there is intelligence. Accuracy is constrained by what the networks and people with power tell you to report on. However you can still be an inquisitive, intelligent news host within this admittedly limited framework. But my point is that people will complain about these women who do come across as idiots, while if a news host is at all ugly, they will tend to focus on her appearance rather than what she's saying-even if does have some merit. Take Chantal Hebert, who appears fairly regularly on CBC in Canada. She's extremely unattractive, yet her analysis is often damn good, but I guarantee a lot of people would simply dismiss her out of hand.  What this attitude produces is women like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin who look great, but are completely useless.

Like look at Michelle Obama, and the shit people talk about her. Ok hate Obama and his policies, but ad hominem attacks on his wife and her appearance is just fucking stupid. Ok you may not consider her attractive (and attraction is pretty damn subjective, and besides the point with regards to her qualities as a political entity) but she went to Princeton, and Harvard Law school. Yes these places may be drone factories for TPTB, but for a black woman - whose last name isn't Clinton, Bush etc- to get accepted is a fucking achievement and says a lot about her determination, intelligence, and talent. Attacking her based on her appearance is just stupid.

/end rant. Thanks zerohedge for letting me get that off my chest.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 04:50 | 1135921 OldPhart
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PLEASE give me a woman on the news, 50-ish, big tits, who has a brain, to report.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 17:58 | 1134602 Hicham
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edit for double post.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:01 | 1132730 Turd Ferguson
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+++++

What a couple of dumb broads. The one with her arms folded in defiance is a real MSM hack. Paul/Scheuer 2012

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:04 | 1132753 SilverIsKing
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"carrying the water for Obama"

I love that guy!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:23 | 1132833 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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the hand on the hip thing by babe #1 was hilarious. Dumb talking shrills.

they had bubbles over their heads that said: "Du'OH!!"

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:41 | 1132924 Bananamerican
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at least Scheuer had the gallantry to call it "water"

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:38 | 1133209 juwes
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I've always enjoyed Ron Paul's sensible budgetary and non intervention policies, however, I'm not pleased with his overt pandering to religious groups and his inherent capacity towards preaching his religious values.  He also likes to support candidates that build their case for policy around their religion.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:39 | 1133227 juwes
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I will likely decline to vote in the next election.  The only way I will vote is if Paul is explicit in his separation of church and state without pandering to the religious zealots he has often associated with.

So for me it's Paul or I'm not voting.  I expect I'm in a small minority in the polls, but what else is new?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:45 | 1133600 ShittyLipsMcCra...
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Paultard.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:57 | 1133671 thedrickster
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What exactly is your definition of a Paultard?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 15:11 | 1133741 Arthor Bearing
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"This man expressed an opinion with which I disagree but I do not have the [time/effort/brain and language capacity] to give him a coherent response to his coherent point of view, so I will instead call him a name (thereby dragging the intellectual discourse that much farther downward and making the life everyone who sees my contribution just a little bit worse)."

juwes I am not voting, nor have I ever voted. But if I did it would be for Paul

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 15:32 | 1133851 DollarMenu
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Some who attempted to get Ron Paul on the last ballot were

known as "Paulistas" by the  entrenched Republicans.

They cheerfully adopted the term to self-identify themselves to others.

However, good cheer was not enough to overcome the Morlocks 

who control the Republican caucus machinery.

They got McCain/Palin.

Such a deal!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:27 | 1134180 beyondcollapse
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Your lack of voting is not something to be proud of.  Abstaining doesn't do anything to "bring down the system" it only emboldens those you seek to remove.  If you don't like any of the above, do a write-in at the very least.  Nothing changes, nothing gets fixed witha general attitude that not voting is best.  Freedom isn't just gonna be handed to you.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 20:22 | 1135045 Arthor Bearing
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I don't know about you sir but my time is invaluable and I try to waste as little of it as possible ;)

You've heard of regulatory capture? That's what's happened to the voters. Thank TV

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:55 | 1135741 Arkadaba
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I think it goes beyond regulatory capture. I think it is the system itself. I do not know  a lot about the American political process but I do remember charges of gerrymandering being offered before the 2000 election. In Canada, we have the same issue - there is no proportional representation. Regardless of how I vote, I know who is going to win in my riding. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:21 | 1135682 FeralSerf
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There is an implied contract when one votes, i.e. an agreement to abide by the results.  There hasn't been very many candidates in recent history that would cause me to enter into such an agreement, especially considering the possibility of the other sonofabitch winning.  If you vote for a liar, thief, cheater, and killer then you are nothing but one of the same.  You are complicit in his crimes, an enabler.  If you have done this, please do the right thing and stop breathing ASAP.

Thank you.

 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 04:56 | 1135926 OldPhart
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"This man expressed an opinion with which I disagree but I do not have the [time/effort/brain and language capacity] to give him a coherent response to his coherent point of view, so I will instead call him a name (thereby dragging the intellectual discourse that much farther downward and making the life everyone who sees my contribution just a little bit worse)."

I nominate for best truthiest answer ever. 

In other words, I lack no substance, no standing, no credibility, and no other resources to support my baseless repudiation of my antagonists argument.  Therefore I call clear and apparent foul upon the word craft of my opponent and declare my position unassailable. 

Excellent!

I tip my hat to you.

 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 15:07 | 1133712 Michael
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I won't waste my vote, so I just write in Ron Paul's name.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 17:49 | 1134573 NidStyles
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He's a firm Constitutionalist, what would lead you to believe he would do otherwise?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:28 | 1135277 lincolnsteffens
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+++++++++++++++s to the moon.

The State should not promote or show favoritism towards any religious or non religious group.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 23:06 | 1135503 slewie the pi-rat
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hey, juwes @ 1133209!  i thought randy paul was doing this "pandering to religious groups" thingy in his recent KY campaign. not so much, if at all, with the father, ron, imo. 

i see ron as making truly "moral" statements, quire often, and preaching his moral, much more than his religious values, politically.  i also see him as a practicing, confessing christian, and not trying to hide that fact about who he is.  as a presidential candidate he would be a suicidal fool to alienate the "evangelical" voting bloc.  i don't follow him all that closely, and i may be wrong, but i don't see him as a bush, jr, or even a randy paul, altho i have a dreadful feeling that he may begin to act like these guys, to win the nomination, and possibly the white house, depending on "how" he runs.  i think he can do it w/out the pandering, even if he stays in the republican party and even if he gets a shot at the presidency and his "opponent" goes evangelical. if he can't, fuk him, too!  he won't get slewie's vote, which hasn't seemed to bother any of these asswipes, yet...

even the evengelicals may be starting to see their Right To Life "horses" as largely a stable of psychotic, bankster-backed criminal fascists, who care absolutely nothing of life, especially human life, l don't care how you define it.  these evengelicals are not, generally, un-patriotic in the common, american sense. 

things are so fuked up, now, that even many in this voting bloc may be ready to put america first, even into the hands of a 20-21st century gynocologist, and let their God deal with the "baby killers" for a while, at his point, rather than their "elected" folks in DC.

now, i am sure that many who feel God is doing this to the nation because of reproductive choice for women will never budge.  the bible tells them not to, they feel, and, as far as i'm concerned, they are entilted to their opinions and beliefs, short of violence.  others, like a catholic practicing family planning and birth control, may be ready to say, "enuf is enuf!" and make the best choice for america, as they see it.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 17:36 | 1134522 Bill - Yes That Bill
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You're assuming they were wearing panties...

(*SHRUG*)

 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 17:46 | 1134551 macholatte
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these damn broads are stupid

 

 No they are not. Each likely made more money last year than most of us.

As Tyler said, they are robots, pre-programmed with CNN propaganda. Although they ask all the right questions, reading from their notes, they really do not know how to digest the answers.  Engaging the discussion might endanger their jobs, so the word from the control room was clearly to get off the air fast.

Declaring the cunning sociopaths of the Progressive movement to be "stupid" or "dumb" only shows how ignorant the audience is. Those women are merely a symptom, an example of the larger problem.

 

 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 18:31 | 1134706 Central Bankster
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Nice comment.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 20:29 | 1135077 Cash_is_Trash
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Michael Schauer rulezzzzz

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:37 | 1135313 lincolnsteffens
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Right you are Macholatte (what is that a really manly and strong coffee with mother's milk?). There is a difference between stupid and uninformed. If MSM had fact checking departments and in depth investigative unbiased reporting it would be different.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 01:16 | 1135771 Market Profit
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+10 - Good comment!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 04:29 | 1135912 Lord Koos
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Out with real journalists, in with the corporate spokesmodels.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:29 | 1132874 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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 Obama/Neru has been manouvered to place himself "Under the Bus", by Hilary Clinton no less.

...lol...

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:30 | 1132875 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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 Obama/Neru has been manouvered to put himself "Under the Bus", by Hilary Clinton no less.

...lol...

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:34 | 1132878 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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 President Obama/Emperor Neru has been manouvered, by Hilary Clinton no less, to put himself "Under his own Bus".

...lol...

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 15:42 | 1133925 LFMayor
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you mean Nero or Nehru?  I'm guessing the bed wetting pyromaniac that dithered when the prime real estate he wanted was burning, but I've always liked those collars, esp on Members Only jackets.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:59 | 1135745 Arkadaba
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+hehe

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 02:36 | 1135847 slewie the pi-rat
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i had the same fukin thought, LF Mayor, and started to enjoy the vibes of the ambiguity so much, i left it unresolved in the interests of art.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 15:33 | 1133875 Campagnolo
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is the avatar picture your bitch?...

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:52 | 1132676 Hansel
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Re: Bahrain... never.

From the Asia Times,

"You invade Bahrain. We take out Muammar Gaddafi in Libya. This, in short, is the essence of a deal struck between the Barack Obama administration and the House of Saud. Two diplomatic sources at the United Nations independently confirmed that Washington, via Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, gave the go-ahead for Saudi Arabia to invade Bahrain and crush the pro-democracy movement in their neighbor in exchange for a "yes" vote by the Arab League for a no-fly zone over Libya - the main rationale that led to United Nations Security Council resolution 1973."

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:40 | 1132917 Haywood Jablowme
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From the Asia Times,

"You invade Bahrain. We take out Muammar Gaddafi in Libya. This, in short, is the essence of a deal struck between the Barack Obama administration and the House of Saud. Two diplomatic sources at the United Nations independently confirmed that Washington, via Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, gave the go-ahead for Saudi Arabia to invade Bahrain and crush the pro-democracy movement in their neighbor in exchange for a "yes" vote by the Arab League for a no-fly zone over Libya - the main rationale that led to United Nations Security Council resolution 1973."

interesting.....wouldn't surprise me.

 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:54 | 1134300 falak pema
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Somebody once said here that HC didn't like arab dick but preferred arab dykes. So supposing she burst a dyke and punctured a dick, does that mean that the dyke she burst in Bahrein was to puncture the dick in Tripoli? That's not bad for a geography lesson to a woman who only knows Washington is south of New York. And Arkansas is to the west.

It's great to be state queen when you don't have Julian peeking through his peep hole looking at your steaming scheme of geographical monopoly. So when does that Oil start flowing to Benghazi? Isn't that why we learnt geography; dykes for dicks...lubricated with sweet crude...its just so dude...wants me to go nude...for a prude who loves to brood, wild queen of the dyke that explodes.  

Not that I mind as I'm broad minded about broads.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 17:47 | 1134556 velobabe
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hey broad minded, i am bored†

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 18:07 | 1134635 falak pema
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it happens to the best of us. Find yourself a ride to Benghazi on a camel with two humps.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 22:27 | 1135438 GlenD
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Saudia arabia is a US pawn. They were ordered to attend the UN death squad to vandicate the propoganda that bombs falling in muslum woman and children is good for them.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:20 | 1133461 Frank Knew
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The lies of mainstream media were spelled out in Frank Zappa's I'm the Slime

"I'm the best you can get, have you guessed me yet? I'm the slime oozing out of your T.V. set"

Frank Knew!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:11 | 1135217 Bringin It
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Who's junking Frank Knew?  TV fans?  Are there such things on ZH?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:13 | 1135663 MisterAmbassador
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The whole blood for oil thing is nothing new.  You can say blood for [insert any resource that was ever considered precious at some point in history].  I don't support an interventionist policy, but when we get presidents who do, it'd be nice if they actually used the military in full force.  If you're going to go to war, throw everything at once and be done.  We tip-toe to war and have since Vietnam.

After 9/11, we should have just completely leveled the Middle East with fuel-air bombs (the most powerful conventional weapons).  Killed everyone and everything there (including Israel, btw, just to be fair and impartial; we could have hit France too because no one cares about France).  Our enemies would have at least respected that and been mostly dead.  Bin Laden knows we run when things get tough.  And, we wouldn't be sending troops on fourth, fifth, sixth tours of duty (we need a draft, if we're going to do things that way).  You wouldn't have to nation build, either, except for all those oil derricks and ports.  Much cheaper.  And, we'd save money from foreign aid, too.  If we're going to be seen as spending blood for oil, then we might as well go all out.

It's not like whomever in power in these countries isn't going to sell us or other nations the oil. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 01:02 | 1135752 Arkadaba
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You really are an idiot - or was that sarcastic?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:18 | 1135676 Zardinuk
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Isn't it plausible that the reason why this is being done is because it is more likely to work in a place with natural resources available to export, which are undeniably owned by the people of the country and not it's dictator?  In a place like Bahrain, we don't really have that "anchor" that the government can blossom with, like we did in Iraq. Iraq was easier to "turn", you know what I'm saying? Just throwing out that alternative explanation.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:29 | 1135689 G-R-U-N-T
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.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:30 | 1135699 G-R-U-N-T
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Scheuer has a set of cover pulling balls on him to be sure. I felt my crotch swell a bit at Scheuer's "water carrying" retort! ;-)

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 05:06 | 1135927 emorybored
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Thank God the Confederacy couldn't call the UN to stop Shermans Hard War before he arrived in Atlanta. That Fostoria crystal would've cost a fortune today rather just the jerked beef to some hungry southern belles.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:30 | 1132521 unwashedmass
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priceless!!!!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:12 | 1132787 CPL
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Yup, watching the vapid talking heads back pedal as he shakes their tree was awesome!

 

Surprised it didn't end up on the cutting room floor.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:25 | 1132841 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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It was live, so they couldn't undo that much damage.

 

don't worry it will soon be forgotten.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:36 | 1132901 CPL
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I always thought they had a studio B recording at the same time with a five minute gap in presenting and shape the message.  Lots of news casting agencies do that.  Live isn't an option if you have couple million people watching.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:51 | 1133279 Practical Irrat...
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Live isn't an option if you have couple million people watching.

No worries there, viewership was probably low.  There was an American Idol special on E! at the same time.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:15 | 1133431 CPL
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500 channels of crap on cable, I'm sure now he could have been naked and offering some skratch and sniff with the vapid heads...only ones that watched that segment were us.

 

And because there is a cadre of loons that do nothing but comb media sources and upload to youtube.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 17:57 | 1134603 slewie the pi-rat
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here we got CIA==>MSM==>UToob==>zH==>us.

marshall mcluhan's circus.   i like your use of the word "loon", cpl.  although we have the same term here, as in canada, i wonder if for you it  also carries the slur we might infer by "presidential"?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 18:37 | 1134722 CPL
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It's a stronger term than wackadoo, but loon suits most politicos and the tin foil hat brigade.  Without them we would have no amusement or guys combing through hours of video trying to catch this stuff.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:59 | 1135358 RoRoTrader
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here we got CIA==>MSM==>UToob==>zH==>us.

best piece by a mile all day, if not in quite a while, slewie.........i was at a garden party summer of july 08 just before the ensuing great crash and was trying, mostly in vain, to put out my views on the risks of ovver priced US real estate and why the GBP looked like such a certain short.........and, not many takers or much interest it seemed on that line.

mm was mentioned in the contextt of the conversation and someone asked me who was marshall mcluhan?......to which i responded, "marshall mcluhan was before before Dr Phil". one person laughed.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:07 | 1135652 slewie the pi-rat
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well, you just got another, i'll tell you that!  still recovering.

fibonacci laughter

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Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:55 | 1135369 tip e. canoe
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nice avatar...still waiting

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:57 | 1133329 awakened
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This will certaintly NOT be forgotten.

It will live in our minds if not in cyberspace forever. :-)

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:21 | 1132823 FeralSerf
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It's hard to believe that those idiots at CNN would have let Michael Scheuer have his say.  His view, (correct IMO) has not been the party line that's been continuously delivered to the sheep.

Did they expect him to sugar coat it for the empty head, but good at reading the prompter, lovelies?  Did they think he would compromise all his principles for the possibility of another appearance?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 15:27 | 1133820 Arthor Bearing
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Yes. And most do compromise their principles in order to be favored with inside information from the current administration, and the chance to be a regular on TV

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:34 | 1132550 Pez
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It's murder for money that supports the Military Industrial Complex

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:46 | 1132620 umop episdn
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When ambition has no conscience and greed has no limit, the killing has no end.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:19 | 1133448 dugorama
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is this line original?  I'd love the source if not.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:09 | 1133057 dizzyfingers
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To Pez and Umop:

 

Pithily and eloquently said.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:37 | 1134234 beyondcollapse
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It's murder for oil that supports the Military Industrial Complex.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:42 | 1132606 covert
Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:45 | 1132610 Azannoth
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She was like OMG!!! did he just say the B******** word ?!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:09 | 1132776 morkov
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YES!!!  i like that guy!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:25 | 1133502 Boiling Frogs
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Imperial Hubris is a good read. 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:01 | 1133012 dizzyfingers
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To Chuck Walla:

I'm with you. Pretty soon US kids are going to be in there, one way or another, dying for oil...while we could be pumping our own oil right here in the US.

Why do US parents allow this?!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:49 | 1133280 Elliott Eldrich
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice

 

It's an ancient tradition in many societies. Periodic ritual sacrifice to perceived "deities" that demand human blood, and in return will provide bounty (rain, crops, a "good economy", etc.) Whether you're strapped to an altar and sacrificed, or sent to a desert somewhere to be blown to pieces, the net effect is the same.

 

When you challenge the tradition of human blood sacrifice, be very careful, for you are tapping into profoundly powerful primal forces. 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:56 | 1133310 tmosley
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Why can't we sacrifice the king?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Bough

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 22:01 | 1135385 tip e. canoe
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cuz that would just lead to more worship down the line.

how bout we sacrifice nobody and just live and let live?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 22:26 | 1135436 Milestones
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 I'll drink to THAT!!!         Milestones

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:15 | 1133422 awakened
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Did anyone else notice the tag at the bottom, Rick Santorum blaming social security woes on abortion? Seems that the neocons can sacrifice our grown babies in their dirty little wars, but ending the life of an ill and unborn child needs to be outlawed or regulated by the state. Got to keep the babies healthy and insured now so they can grow up to be soldiers.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:18 | 1133459 awakened
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its at 3:26 minutes in

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:40 | 1133572 TruthInSunshine
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It's always amazed me that radical liberals have no problem with infanticide while radical conservatives have no problem with teenager/young adult-icide (senseless wars).

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 15:18 | 1133776 Matte_Black
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Good point. It's as if they've both gone so far around the bend that they've met each round the other side. They both have forgotten how tell right from wrong, truth from lies. Both are corrupt to the marrow.

It confuses me sometimes, to be candid. I can't find a place to stand, ideologically, anymore. I hate them both. It's a hell of time to be alive.

Seems to me that in then end, both take their marching orders from the Bohemian
Grove crowd, who don't give two shits about the culture wars.

He who has the gold...

 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:05 | 1134039 Antarctico
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The left and right started on opposite sides of the political circle and, over time, they have arced up to join at a common point you might call totalitarianism.  It sounds like you might be taking a journey similar to mine, starting at the left or right points on the circle and arcing down in the opposite direction from the mainstream left and right, ultimately bottoming out in some nameless political void that is 180 degrees opposite from the joined point of the two parties of totalitarianism.  You could call this nameless void freedom, but that word has become a politically charged buzz word.  I am not sure what to call the place I look out at the world from, for lack of a better term, a friend of my calls this Chaotic Neutral, or if you want to a less pop cultural tag, you might call it a Carsonian flavor of anarchism. I'm still trying to figure it all out, so most of this is just thinking out loud.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:57 | 1134333 TorchFire
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+100  ...and I thought I was the lone observer from your Chaotic Neutral vantage point.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:30 | 1135239 Antarctico
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What I am discovering is that this political void I find myself in, as I get more of the lay of things, is it not as empty as it first seemed.  It is always heartening to find others who have stumbled upon it too. :)

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:33 | 1135297 samsara
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You're not alone, you're really not alone.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:38 | 1135316 New World Chaos
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Hail Eris!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 23:03 | 1135524 forexskin
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welcome to the party of one (I), brother

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:04 | 1135191 Kayman
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It was ever thus. Extreme socialism lead to Stalin/Mao and extreme "capitalism" leads to cronyism protected by the all powerful state.

 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:14 | 1135229 Antarctico
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And in the end, if you approach the political extreme, from either left or right, the societal result is the same -- the many are farmed by the few.  Statism equals farm.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 22:35 | 1135454 Milestones
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" There are more similarities than differences between opposites"  Eric Hoffer  "The True Believer"

Milestones

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:30 | 1135697 slewie the pi-rat
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well, milestoneZ, i may be really full of shit tonight...

what eric hoffer and you put here is absolutely true.  

to call what others may have called "political extremes", "opposites" in any but the most hegelian sense, sounds like a true believer to me.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 06:48 | 1135965 Husk-Erzulie
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Chaotic neutral? Dude, you're an anarchist.  Welcome home, get used to it.

http://c4ss.org/

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:15 | 1134105 mdwagner
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The only place to stand is for politians who actually stand up for the people and the Constitution, whether you agree with them on policy or not.  I'm a fan of both Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders for instance.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 01:08 | 1135761 Arkadaba
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Like your comments mostly and this one hit home. I have my own moral compass but right now it does seem like battening down the hatches .

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:29 | 1134195 Widowmaker
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What parents?  That would imply plurality of parenting which we all know is bogus.

The US family is dead, hence child blood for energy, banks, government self preservation.

Most folks think sacrifice of youth involves a volcano.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:47 | 1134271 beyondcollapse
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There's no significant deposits in the US from which to pump.  The low hanging fruit's been picked.  In the name of empire the US has no choice but to use it's military to smash and grab what it can...buy more time before a serious crash comes due to lack of supply in the face of growing demand.  Eventually it will be a zero-sum game as the amount of oil expended to smash 'n grab will exceed the amount procured.  Soon the spinning plates will crash to the floor...for now most of them are seriously wobbling.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:36 | 1135711 FeralSerf
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There's still some oil under the Gulf of Mexico.  It's just "oozing" to get out.

Some (a lot?) of oil is probably abiotic.  The Titan probe proved that beyond a reasonable doubt (e.g. methane oceans).  The Evil Elite needs to remain in control of the planet's energy resources, 'cause that's what we lambs need and want the most.  And the Evil Elites love sacrificing lambs.

You want oil?  Drill deeper.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 01:14 | 1135769 dark pools of soros
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I hear Titan's civilians need to be liberated...

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:03 | 1133043 pesamystik
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I'm kind of glad that the CIA is it at least composed of a few men of conscience. Too bad this guy isn't still with the CIA. In fact, too bad he isn't leading the damn thing. 

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:12 | 1133088 dizzyfingers
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How do we know there are people of conscience in the CIA? And having a leader of conscience anywhere in US gov is too intelligent for US gov.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 00:38 | 1135719 slewie the pi-rat
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jeeez, diz!  yer 1st Q is logical, and yer second sentence isn't necessarily wrong, but:  if yer just gonna dance around his implicaion that the CIA guy has a conscience, @ Fight Club, you deserve to lose the fukin round!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:44 | 1133589 SheepDog-One
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Tote them water buckets, bitchez.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 15:41 | 1133923 ddtuttle
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Love your racetrack ...

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:46 | 1134265 whatsinaname
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cute.

nice video.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 18:35 | 1134721 pesamystik
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Interesting to note that Michael Scheuer was fired from the Jamestown as a senior Scheuer Wikipedia notes that "Scheuer has written that he was fired by the organization for stating that "the current state of the U.S.-Israel relationship undermined U.S. national security."

Fucking Israel.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 01:27 | 1135790 dark pools of soros
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don't worry, once this country is broke they'll slither away

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 19:05 | 1134802 Maniac Researcher
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I can just see the headline now: "Bigoted Asshats hate U.S. Imperialism! Hypocrisy Reigns! News at 11!"

or howabout:

"Entitled Arm-chair Wannabees Continue Whining About How They Aren't in Charge! Overwhelming Feelings of Impotence Cause Them to Lash Out at Women and Minorities! Poorly Constructed Conspiracy Theories Galore! News at 12!"

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:33 | 1135292 Bringin It
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One trick pony.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 23:26 | 1139662 Maniac Researcher
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wannabe toughguy.

 

You're not bringing much, dude.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 22:16 | 1135416 Twindrives
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Obama's camp followers, dumb cunts.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 23:31 | 1139670 Maniac Researcher
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Isn't it irritating that you need to make up strawmen to knock down because you have nothing else to say? Looks like the hate speech comes off naturally, though.

By the way -- I appreciate that you are supplying more evidence that the majority of ZH contributors are bigoted asshats. Thanks.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:12 | 1132413 NotApplicable
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Good thing they have the Jennifer Aniston headline so we don't have to listen to the video!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:26 | 1132511 apartofthings
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I just noticed that. When the truth starts flying, you can just relax, read the ticker, and shut all the bad stuff out.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:35 | 1132556 Pez
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Serenity now, Serenity NOW GODDAMN IT!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:44 | 1132609 Confuchius
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We hears the creature in yellow is looking for a rich husband.

Volunteers?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:08 | 1132769 SilverIsKing
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Maybe for a night or two.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:10 | 1132414 TruthInSunshine
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While this highlights the dumbasses passing for journalists (even at CNN, NBC, Fox, blah blah) in the Idiocracy that Amerika has devolved into, beware of Scheuer, for obvious reasons.

This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:14 | 1132422 cossack55
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But at least he looks like a wolf.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:19 | 1132465 Thomas
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Those are not journalists, just talking heads.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:37 | 1132565 mule65
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White House: No decision has been made.

[What a shock from our spineless Teleprompter in Chief]

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:35 | 1132568 Pez
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I could see them as ass-wipers for Obama but H2O carriers? They're not that strong.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:10 | 1132997 Infinite QE
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Calling them H20 carriers would have totally confused them as they would spend weeks trying to decode that one!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:39 | 1132574 Misean
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They're not talking heads. They're self absorbed little rich bitches having a coffee klatch. Then the dude has the temerity to splash cold water on their preconceived gossip.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 01:11 | 1135767 Arkadaba
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But isn't sad that this person and his views was sent to CNN's lite duty rather than getting some real exposure in prime time?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:41 | 1134247 midlevex@gmail.com
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Talking torsos, Scheuer was the talking head.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:29 | 1132527 TruthInSunshine
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For thy junker, I never said that Scheuer was technically wrong in this interview, I merely suggested he can be all things to some people or some things to all people.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:34 | 1132551 Another Texan
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your talking in circles does not leave any insight.  He opened a window in the MSM that is not allowed to open.  I doubt he will get invited again to give his commentary.  Kudos to him.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:53 | 1132633 TruthInSunshine
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I'll just go ahead and say it.

Scheurer is a person who claims Al-Qaeda is actually what has been sold to the American People.

I'll let those who have done their research of this keystone issue determine whether they agree or disagree with his proclamation on this most critical of issues (after all, without Americans believing in the existence of some group called Al Qaeda, most of the events of the last 13 years or so could not have been made possible).

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:56 | 1132684 FWM
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Why does he peddle it then?  (honest question, I have no idea, and would enjoy even speculation; I've followed him from afar every since he made Maher's donkey face drop to the ground)  M

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:01 | 1132726 TruthInSunshine
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I'm not on the inside, so I don't know.

However, if one believes that Al Qaeda is a literal manufactured 'external enemy projected falsely' ala the Goebbels book of propaganda, it has to alter one's views of anything or anyone repeating the myth.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:08 | 1133383 MSimon
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I guess America's problems with Islam since 1794 have been manufactured by....?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:39 | 1135319 Bringin It
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How many Americans have died fighting Christians? [500,000 in the Civil War alone] / Americans killed by Muslims since 1794 = A very big number. 

So now what MSimon?  Seems we've had much more serious problems with fellow Christians. 

Who's your enemy?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:16 | 1133428 Holodomor2012
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You raise a good point that I have always pondered.  Is this hegelianism at work?  Or is there only so much truth that the American mind can handle?  I am leaning towards the latter.  People become VERY hostile to ideas that break their pre-existing prejudices.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 14:16 | 1133429 Holodomor2012
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doubletap

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:29 | 1134193 acrabbe
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Great point TIS, but you know the alCIAda truth is drowning in a sea of mis and dis info that makes the great flood look like a weak stream of piss. Something is terribly wrong. It's all very eerie. With every day we travel farther down this rabbit hole I am more and more convinced that we are on the cusp of mind-breaking events and revelations that will not seem plausible to even the most open-minded of crackpots. I don't even want to speculate on what these events might be lest I paint myself with a crazy brush.

The more probable and realistic scenario is that we are truly being primed for ww3 and a massive liquidation of global human liabilities. The question is will ww3 be a conventional shooting war? Or is it a multi-stage "non-violent" CULLING that has already begun via loss of rights, bankruptcy, irradiation, malnutrition, disease and man-made natural disasters?

Might as well light up a J, sit back and watch it burn...

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 18:46 | 1134742 thebark
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theres no need for WW3...just get the right virus set up in the right countries...and watch her spread....game over....thin the heard...plenty left for the survivors!

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:58 | 1132700 gordengeko
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I concur with this fact.  He worked for "the agency", the same agency that papa bush ran for how many decades?  Al Qaeda is a fiction, a mental construct concealing the 500lb gorilla in the room which is.....drum roll..."the agency", MI5, mossad and mafioso, all controlled by that religious behemoth over yonder in that boot country...?http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/wikileaks-vatican-cables-involve-...

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:57 | 1133008 slewie the pi-rat
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my kinda analysis, there geko!  i tend to give Rothschild/mossad the Ace of trumps, due to the int'l bankster cartel's "family" integrity.  but they never wish to be seen as being in total control of their puppet nations, and the word's getting out pretty fast, now, isn't it?  you seem to be implying that the CC is controlling the House of Roth.  any comment?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:23 | 1133136 gordengeko
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I don't know the exact details but the vatican is deeply involved.  Just about every form of intelligence beit terrestrial or that of the "extra" kind gets filtered through the vatican intelligence agency first.  That is a fact.  Vatican international banking dates waaay back and intertwines with ancient phoencian canaanites.  Phoenician civilization was an enterprising maritime culture that spread across the Mediterranean during the period 1550 BC to 300 BC.  Of course much like everything else this history is withheld from the average person.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:45 | 1133258 redpill
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So where do the aliens fit in?  And why do they keep mutilating cows, anyway?

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:50 | 1133275 gordengeko
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What's an alien?  Aren't we all part alien anyway?  Let's ask the pope, maybe he knows sumthin...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598508/ns/world_news-europe/

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 21:49 | 1135355 Bringin It
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Total bullshit.  Bring back the real GG.

Vatican international banking dates waaay back and intertwines with ancient phoencian canaanites.

They have a much more obvious connection to the temple moneychanging/banking culture.  Why skip over that for something totally bogus?

Pretty stupid links too, that having nothing to do with your conjecture.  "Wiki/Mediterranean"?  Like no one knows what the Med is?  Words fail me, but I want to thank you for outing yourself as not worth the time.

Michael on the other hand walks on water.

Mon, 04/04/2011 - 16:35 | 1134215 acrabbe
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The Vatican is just the highest ranked MOST VISIBLE poplation administration system from our perspective, aka the little expendable people. God knows that F is really going down on this tiny spinning rock. If you've dropped acid or had kundalini experience then you understand how bizarre the rules of the game can get... I have a feeling the masses are going to be introduced to some really trippy shit sometime in and between this fascinating 2012 storyline

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