Former Deputy Defense Minister Says Israel May Be Compelled To Attack Iran's Nuclear Facilities By November

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Mon, 04/05/2010 - 22:32 | 287857 Truth Excavator
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Not if the U.S beat them to it.

Kristol: U.S strike on Iran better than Israeli strike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzSadfmXuTw

 

 

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 00:19 | 288048 Bear
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Read the posts for this video ... a real talent laden group over there

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 06:19 | 288259 jeff montanye
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some are obviously using a language not their native tongue, but not a one supported israel.  imo anything remotely like what sneh proposes would deeply alter, probably irrevocably, the u.s. people's (as opposed to the frightened and bought government's) perception of and support for israel.  and not a moment too soon (actually about 43 years late).

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 00:44 | 288079 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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That PNAC son of a bitch!  Yeah I am talking about his father!  9/11 was an inside job!

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 04:42 | 288220 chindit13
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Another goddamn fucking chickenhawk, along with Cheney, Perl, Adelman, Wolfowitz, Feith.  The only solution any of them knows to any problem is for somebody other than them to blow up somebody else.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 06:05 | 288255 jeff montanye
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well and truly said.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 00:20 | 289388 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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How the hell did this get **junked**????!!!

All he said was that the said men....or as I like to call them, devil worshiping inbreds......were quote, "chickenhawks".  And their only solution is to start wars!  Thats what they do.  And they are chickens!  Why didn't Irv's son Billy boy serve some time in the infantry?  Why don't any of these windbags send their kids?  I would have loved to see the Bush twins in uniform...'nawadimean?  hehe ;) 

Well, fear monger, and write movie reviews in their stupid magazines. Don't you have something better to do, Podheretz?!?!?!?!  Man, running (ruining) the world must get boring. 

Avatar by John Podheretz:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/verdict-%E2%80%98avatar%E2%80%99

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 09:38 | 288394 Missing_Link
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Not if the U.S beat them to it.

Kristol: U.S strike on Iran better than Israeli strike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzSadfmXuTw

TruthExcavator, while I personally support both wars and would like nothing better than to see the Iranian regime pounded into the dirt, it's clearly not going to happen on Obama's watch.  Why even bother pissing people off with irresponsible statements like this?

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 12:42 | 288643 Truth Excavator
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O ye, of little faith.

Why do you doubt that the American war machine is not going to start another war? If they have to, they will get rid of Obama just as they did of Osama.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 21:28 | 289252 Missing_Link
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O, ye of little brains!

It's obvious that the current wars have very little support left, and any attempt at yet another front would face massive resistance not only from anti-war lefties but from those of us on the right who want smaller government and balanced budgets.

A war machine feeds off of public support as its fuel, and our tank is almost empty.

 

If they have to, they will get rid of Obama just as they did of Osama.

 

Ummm  ...  What are you smoking?

THEY DIDN'T.

Last I checked, Osama was still on the loose.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 00:17 | 289389 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Link, how often do you junk me?

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 22:33 | 287866 buzzsaw99
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I love those last two paragraphs. Hey Israel, kiss my booty. You want a war with Iran go right ahead. Maybe we won't shoot down your planes. That's the only concession. The gall to dictate to the usa and europe to do as they say and thumb our noses at the UN. How about this, pack your shit and move. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 22:43 | 287883 orange juice
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 It's about Iran being run by someone who is completely unsound and definately not stable. Like Israel or not, Iran does not need access to nuclear material period.  Europe would be within range, dirty bombs could profligate the region it would be an absolute mess of a disaster.

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 22:50 | 287891 buzzsaw99
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So pre-emptive nukes are the answer? Starving people who are unable to effect change within Iran is the answer? How about we throw the ruler of Iran and the ruler of israel into the octogon for a death match instead? It is unacceptable for either country to have nukes.

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 23:25 | 287964 Spitzer
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Its because of people like you that make these problems get out of control. We should have bombed them a long time ago

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 23:51 | 288006 MagicHandPuppet
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I agree with Spitzer... we should have bombed Israel a long time ago.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 00:23 | 288055 Bear
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Wow ... I thought the posts at YouTube were bad ... why so much anti semitism?

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 00:56 | 288098 MagicHandPuppet
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'twas sarcasm.... I honestly don't think anyone should be bombed... just pointing out how stupid the previous post was ("we should have bombed 'them' a long time ago").  Regarding anti-semitism, I don't care what race or religion anyone is.  That is all pointless crap.  But, regarding the Israeli goobermint, they along with the US goobermint are the aggressors and their semite neighbors are the victims.  peace.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 03:56 | 288208 merehuman
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maybe because so many folks in the white house are jewish? And have israely passports?

For a multi cultural country like ours, thats a hell of a coincidence

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 05:46 | 288250 anony
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Blankein,geithner,orszag,bernanke,summers,paulson,greenspan,rubin,friedman,fuld,frank,thain,dodd,mozillo,o'neal,gensler, cassano, blankfein, shapiro,yellin, fink,kashkari,blankfein.

Imagine, if you will, that their names were instead:

Corleone, tattaglia, genovese, rossi, rocco, assante, lovecchio, gotti, o'leary, mannella, lombardo, roma, sinatra,capone,luciano.

Think there might be a little anti-sicilianism?

 

 

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 06:40 | 288270 jeff montanye
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when oh bloody when will israel firsters stop using anti-semitism (itself a poor term, for arabs are also semites) as a false flag for anti-israel (or, more properly, anti-zionist or anti-likud or anti-war criminals headquartered in tel aviv/jerusalem)?  answer: never; it helps with an argument that on its own merits is without merit.  created as a "safe haven" for jews after the crimes of the nazis horrified the world, israel is the only place where jews are routinely killed for being jewish.  general george marshall was right: harry truman never should have supported its establishment.  jews would have been far, far safer (as would we) had they stayed right where they were at the end of ww2.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 08:22 | 288323 I am a Man I am...
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Israel is one of the most, if not the most, racist places on the planet.  Do you think the "jewish state" wants multiculturalism?  No.  Do you think they are going to stop their expansion of settlements into land that is not theirs so jews can live?  No.  

I have plenty of jewish friends, but the State of Israel is a menace to society, just like the Government of the US.

If there was a terrorist problem in the US, at least one of these neocons would have had an assassination attempt.  Has not happened.

 

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 01:10 | 289429 Otrader
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+1000

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 00:53 | 288090 caconhma
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You are right.

Regardless of how many nukes Israel has, it will take just 2-3 nukes to wipe them out permanently.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 06:04 | 288251 anony
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If they don't want to go peacefully, it's their funeral. But they are taunting Iran ONLY because they know that when push comes to shove, NO american POTUS in hock to AIPAC, and other jewish lobbies, will dare to back down.  Israel knows, whether the guy who wrote the article or not does, that the american government is already bought and stamped paid for by jewish power in this country.

 

 

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 10:09 | 288425 tmosley
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2-3 nukes won't do much good against their fleet of nuclear submarines, which would turn any attacking nation into glass.

Nukes promote peace--always.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 06:28 | 288262 jeff montanye
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maybe not bombed it but certainly not armed it to the teeth, countenanced their doing to the palestinians, et. al. what is remarkably like what the nazis did to european jews before maybe 1942, allowed it to develop nuclear weapons in violation of u.s. law (actually true--check it out) and brought down the well-deserved wrath of muslims on our ignorant nation such that we are fighting endless war in the muslim world so as to end whatever american empire existed (shouldn't have) in bankruptcy and infamy.  ike was right at suez.  we should have stuck with that.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 09:51 | 288404 Optimusprime
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At the very least we should make it clear we WILL shoot down the Israeli jets if they try to "go it alone" by overflying territory under our air control.  Israeli sub-launched missiles are another problem entirely.  

The notion that WE should do Isael's dirty work is odious.  There is already "proliferation" in the Middle East, from Israel--who stole nuclear technology from the US.  Ever hear of Jonathan Pollard?  The hypocrisy (treachery?) of the neo-cons is breathtaking.

 

 

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 19:40 | 289182 akak
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"I agree with Spitzer... we should have bombed Israel a long time ago."

Hear hear!

I have yet to see that 51st star that Israel apparently represents on Old Glory.

And THREE "Junk" stars for your tongue-in-cheek post!  My, isn't the Mossad troll brigade busy today!

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 23:29 | 287973 Shameful
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All wars problems should be solved with cage match to the death by the country leaders. televised of course.  Might bring some peace if these guys had some skin in the game.  What should they care, they will order the boys to war and while they improvise the country and bring about loss of life they line their pockert.s  Let them fight first.  Imagine if Bush had to duke it out mano-a-mano with Saddam?

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 08:04 | 288314 nedwardkelly
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"Imagine if Bush had to duke it out mano-a-mano with Saddam?"

That's the first time I've ever seen a fight proposed that I'd pay to watch on PPV.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 11:43 | 288556 1fortheroad
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Now thats something I would pay to see.

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 23:11 | 287940 Shameful
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Hmm lets expand this out.  So who is stable?  How about Chavez?  What if he could buy a nuke from Russia?  We better take him out...Russia to because they could see a nuke.  Pakistan is unstable and has a nuke, invade them to.  Why not simply pre-emptive strike the planet?  Hell with a global decapitation strike we could remove all possible enemies and get rid of our external debt!  Get the president on the line I have a solution to all out problems!  Declare war on all other nations!!!  America will only be safe if all other nations are nothing but mounds of smoking glass and radioactive dust!

/sarcasm of course

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 23:33 | 287978 b_thunder
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if chavez gets clsoe to getting the bomb - you betcha he'll be taken out.  do the words "cuban missile crisis" mean anythign to you?

of course, it would be better to take out kremlin, before they sell their nukes to chavez

 

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 23:40 | 287988 Shameful
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Again why not take out all other nations right now?  After all we are going to have problems in the future and might not be able to afford a super bloated military?  Why not attack the whole planet right now?

Why is the USA allowed to have the nuke when we are the only nation to use it on another?  What threat is there if anther nation having one?  Didn't the Soviets have them for a while, even with a cold war?

If you're for a massive war good on you.  I expect you to volunteer to fight, or buy war bonds.  You should probably volunteer right now, sure they could use a person like you in the service.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 06:48 | 288274 jeff montanye
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your points are very well taken.  nickels to napalm the thunderous one has never seen combat, but even if he (and it's almost always a he) has, he's still ludicrously wrong.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 08:39 | 288340 I am a Man I am...
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Don't forget that the US will need to declare war on US too, because it is a potential threat.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 09:41 | 288396 Schlep
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That's right, "we have always been at war with Eurasia"

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 23:22 | 287957 sporb
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I guess you mean Ahmadinejad. He doesn't run the country. Facts are available.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 00:20 | 288052 Anomymous
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...not interested in facts thanks.These pussies wanna bomb some shit.

 

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Tue, 04/06/2010 - 00:44 | 288081 delacroix
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israel is the only undeclared nuclear power in the world. iran, has complied with every IAEA regulation, and signed the non proliferation treaty. israel is the only country, threatening attack. so who is the unstable leadership. the intentional blindness is staggering

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 15:59 | 288977 hangemhigh
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These are indeed are the true facts of the matter at hand............

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 05:01 | 288225 Alexandra Hamilton
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and you think that attacking Iran with nuclear weapons is a sane man's decision???

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 00:12 | 288036 dark pools of soros
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I always said just give them Idaho.. call it New Jewland for all i care just get outta the business of worshipping old dirt

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 09:06 | 288372 E pluribus unum
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If we did that, they'd immediately declare war on Montana

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 03:15 | 288187 Popo
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LOL. And who wouldn't "thumb their noses at the UN?". Is there some reason a coalition of mostly non-democratic nations should have some sort of global influence?

Israel should hit them now. Iran is the one thumbing their noses at the NPT. And Iran is the nation with a long and established history of supplying arms to terrorist groups. Fuck 'em. The Iranian people need to either overthrow their leadership (right now) or go down the road to Hell that their leadership is taking them down.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 07:08 | 288284 jeff montanye
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"non-democrat"?  when do the arabs in the israeli-occupied (for nearly half a century) lands get to vote for knesset candidates?  non-proliferation treaty?  israel doesn't admit its arsenal of nukes.  if it did, according to current u.s. law, the u.s. govt would be restricted in its assistance to israel.  arms to terrorist groups?  israel was established by terrorism (king david hotel, etc.) and its hegemony cemented by a terrorist (menachem begin) not to mention a long line of war criminals.  america's subservience to israel is both deeply evil and deeply impractical.  it is a further, egregious example of the kind of vanities (the wars on drugs and terrrism may be others) that the coming bonfire of bankruptcy will consume.   

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 07:37 | 288298 Popo
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> "non-proliferation treaty? israel doesn't admit its arsenal of nukes."

Uh... maybe because Israel, not being a signatory to the NPT is under absolutely no obligation to report its nuclear arsenal to anyone?

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 08:27 | 288330 Grappa
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" The Iranian people need to either overthrow their leadership (right now) or go down the road to Hell that their leadership is taking them down."

 

That leadership is there because US of A decided that the democraticly chosen and legit regime which was before this one had to be erased. So now we are dealing with something that we have AGAIN caused ourselves. Keep on killing boys, there will be more terrorists than ever after this.

 

Also you can say this: " The American people need to either overthrow their leadership (right now) or go down the road to Hell that their leadership is taking them down." about americans as well.

Mon, 04/05/2010 - 22:39 | 287879 Crab Cake
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"I am become death, destroyer of worlds," - J Robert Oppenheimer (Bhahavad Gita)

It is only a matter of time before Shiva dances. 

Economic earthquakes of the size and magnitude we are experiencing are always followed by tsunamis of war.

 

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