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Former US Envoy To UN John Bolton Says "Israel Has 8 Days To Strike Iran"

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In an interview with Fox Business News, former US envoy to the UN, John Bolton, told the channel that if Israel wants to prevent Iran from acquiring a working nuclear plant, then a military strike must be launched against the Bushehr nuclear power facility within the next eight days. Specifically, Bolton was envisioning the projected August 21 launch date of the nuclear power plant, which Zero Hedge noted previously. According to Bolton, once the Bushehr facility is operational it will be too late for a military air strike against Iran because such an attack would affect too many Iranian civilians due to the spread radiation.

"Once that uranium, once those fuel rods are very close to the reactor,
certainly once they're in the reactor, attacking it means a release of
radiation, no question about it. So if Israel is going to do anything against Bushehr it has to move in the next eight days."

Bolton simplistic summary is that should Iran launch the reactor, both Israel and the US would be in trouble.


"Iran will achieve something that no other opponent of Israel, no other
enemy of the United States in the Middle East really has and that is a
functioning nuclear reactor."

Laslty, Russia was portrayed as evil for daring to go with its own national interest, whatever that may be, over that of the US.

"The Russians are, as they often do, playing both sides against the middle. The idea of being able to stick a thumb in America's eye always figures prominently in Moscow."

Regardless, keep an eye out on news developments from the Middle East over the next few days.

 

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Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:07 | 525638 snowball777
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Ah, neocons....like that little yappy dog that just won't stop overcompensating and yipping away despite its obvious futility.

Stop trying to bankrupt our nation by pulling us into entangling alliances with full-on retard mode administrations created by parliamentarian clusterfuck in the Knesset.

If you had a little drinking buddy who kept picking fights he couldn't finish when you went to bars, you'd stop buying him free beers, right?

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:10 | 525645 megatoxic
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I might even let my "little drinking buddy" get his ass kicked to teach him a valuable lesson.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:26 | 525688 aint no fortuna...
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+10 megatoxic... wouldn't a little humility be nice to see.. we can dream can't we?

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:49 | 525747 ZackAttack
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Hell, I might even *encourage* him to go start something.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:58 | 525774 caconhma
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John Bolton and his masters Zionist-terrorist American lobby represent grave danger to the USA, its people, and its national interests.

These people are pushing the world into the WWIII.  

These people had already elected the previous imbecile president GW Bush and used him to ruin the country. Now, their puppet Obama is running totally out control initiating new wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, etc.,

It does not look good for America.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:14 | 525977 stev3e
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junk the junkers

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 14:28 | 526522 Quonk
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"Now, their puppet Obama is running totally out control initiating new wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, etc."

I am not a historian but I believe Bin Laden started the war in Afghanistan and President Bush was more than happy to join him...nine long years ago.  Also, I believe that we were in Pakistan with drones and ops while under Bush command.  BTW Pakistan and Afghanistan are the same war...if Pakistan had no nukes we would not be fighting for some shitty pile of dirt in Afghanistan.  I follow the news a bit and don't see us with ground troops or air strikes in Somalia or Yemen...I would welcome links that support the contention that Obama has opened wars with those countries.

Just wondering becuase your post sounds a bit like the Glen Beck/Faux News synopsis.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 15:54 | 526788 Barry Freed
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Perhaps you should follow the news a bit more closely.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/stories/DN-covertwar_15int.ART0.State.Edition2.358feda.html

It's also fortunate that you aren't a historian, because Jimmy Carter was the one who got us involved in Afghanistan.  Bush merely bungled things further and made matters worse.  Obama has expanded on Bush's failed policy.

As far as your contention that we wouldn't be fighting for some shitty pile of dirt if not for nukes, you have no basis in reality.  We have 761 active military bases on shitty piles of dirt around the world -foreign soil- to ensure our global hegemony.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2008/08/americas-unwelcome-advances

Given our fiscal policies, we would probably go bankrupt even without our inefficient, agressive global occupation, but this is certainly the anchor pulling us down fastest.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 14:31 | 526526 Quonk
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Tue, 08/17/2010 - 20:52 | 527362 Hedge Jobs
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WWIII is already assured, its been planned for decades by the Neocons. Have a look at the map or Iran. Afganistan on the easter border, Iraq on the western border. These are not wars they are ocupations and will be used as staging posts agaist the iranians. Iran is the ultimate goal here, always was. No wonder the Iranians are acting the way they are they are already surrounded by hostile forces.

Its too late now. If you know anyone in the army, tell them to get out now or they will be sent to their deaths in another conflict that has absolutely nothing to do with the US. 

Wed, 08/18/2010 - 11:31 | 528184 jakoye
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Riiiiight... which is why US combat forces in Iraq are dropping down to 50,000. And why Obama has said that the drawdown of US troops in Afghanistan will start in 2011. Yeah, Iran's really "surrounded".

And is it your contention that Obama is a neocon? C'mon, dude, you're giving neocons like myself a bad name! Obama is a socialist at best! He ain't got a neocon bone in his body.

Iran getting a nuclear weapon has a LOT to do with us, because we have a ton of allies who depend on us for their security. Not to mention the fact that Iranians have been responsible for hundreds of American deaths since the '79 revolution (including the Marine barracks boming in Beirut in the early Eighties all the way up to financing, arming and training Shite militia groups in Iraq that have killed American soldiers).

We are already at war with Iran, though it's currently a low intensity war. Whether or not we want to take it up a notch or not is a debate that we the American people should have. From my personal reading of the situation, I don't think the American people have the stomach for another war and I think most would agree that containment should be our policy rather than military strikes which could upset our economy even more.

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:41 | 525882 ZakuKommander
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The problem with Neo-Cons is that they let others' asses get kicked -- like our soldiers and marines --while they remain comfy, cozy and well-fed.

Wed, 08/18/2010 - 11:34 | 528190 jakoye
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So Lincoln was a neocon? Woodrow Wilson? FDR? Truman? Kennedy? LBJ? All these guys sent men off to war and lived relatively comfortable lives while others fought and died.

Your charge makes no sense. We have civilian control of the military. Would you rather that we were led by generals? You think generals put themselves in the thick of the fighting? C'mon, dude, wisen up.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:29 | 525683 aint no fortuna...
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+10 snowball.. bolton's an egregious little turd... like all the cowardly neocons he'll pick the fight and then hide in a corner while the rest of the country pays the price

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:29 | 526220 silverfern
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Agree entirely with the criticisms of Bolton.And where does private citizen Bolton get this proprietary intelligience about the timeline for the activation of the Iran reactor? If true,so what?How many countries have reactors?How about Israel?They have several reactors and reportedly about 400 nuclear weapons,all because of Mossad espionage at the highest levels of the USA defense and intelligience community.

The survivors of the USS Liberty would no doubt offer a different view from Zionist flunkie Bolton.

Wed, 08/18/2010 - 05:57 | 527749 A Proud Canadian
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The GIYUS.ORG folks must be on the case here.

Lots of junks to anything against their agenda.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:35 | 525711 themosmitsos
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Your hippy need for peace & love, and Bolton's douchebaggery does not negate the fact that if Iran gets nukes, they *WILL* use them against Israel and then USA. Sometimes, you HAVE to fight,and when you're gonna have to,you're better off picking when it starts. RULE #1

The only thing worse than a neocon, is a neolib. At least the first group of idiots are *for* America. ~48% Bush, ~48% Obama: Total ~96% stupid. Sounds about right America.

Dissappointed Tyler, this is old news by now.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:41 | 525725 megatoxic
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Like, duh.

Of course they *WILL* use nukes against Israel and then USA.

Just like North Korea did.  Er, wait.

Just like Pakistan has.   Um....

Russia?  Nope.

Right.  So fuck off.  Nobody uses nuclear weapons except in the direst circumstances: like if they are being threatened with annihilation by the "Shitty Little Country." 

Solution: stop threatening people with annihilation and learn to live in peace with your neighbors.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:43 | 525735 Internet Tough Guy
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The only people making threats of annihilation are Iranian. Oh wait...he was misquoted. Heh, sure.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:08 | 525793 tmosley
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North Korea makes the same threats against South Korea weekly, yet I don't see you screaming for their blood.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:12 | 525803 megatoxic
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South Korea isn't "special" or "chosen" like Internet Tough Guy's favorite country.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:01 | 525937 CrockettAlmanac.com
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South Korea isn't "special" or "chosen" like Internet Tough Guy's favorite country.

South Korea has no Seoul. Oh, wait a minute...

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:41 | 525880 ZackAttack
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Apparently, South Korea doesn't have to exist in order for the Rapture to take place.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:18 | 526341 Max Hunter
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Rapture Bitchez!

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:12 | 525970 israhole
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Who likes video?  'Internet Tough Guy' requested some content, so here it is: http://theforbiddentruth.net/videos/559/israel-sorry.html

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:45 | 525738 Oswald Spengler
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Solution: stop threatening people with annihilation and learn to live in peace with your neighbors.

Jesus is back.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:24 | 525837 Hephasteus
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Why did he fake an orgasm with you last night? Jesus's love isn't real. It's sociopathic and manipulative. He's a sub-plot story to get people to put responsibility in some mythical bullshit persona to control your natural desire to respond in an intelligent way to sensory input.

There's no plan for redemption. They just put people into jail and convince them that the guards are so strong and powerful and so far above the prisoners that they forced to act out their aggression on each other. They don't reform, rebuild change anything. They simply throw shit in your face and taunt you with the power of it all.

Jesus won't teach you peace. He'll teach you passivity to authority. Just listen to the crap and watch the conflicting messages. Jesus won't come to you unless you ask. Then you got 30 million assholes knocking on your door on sunday afternoon, people running off to fight holy wars.

Wow they took it down. Try to find a picture of the NWO card called Xanadu. It's all you need to know about sociopathic saviors.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:18 | 526182 Canucklehead
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I take it that you find the world pretty dark.

Open your eyes...

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 20:35 | 527338 Hephasteus
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Nope the world is full of good intentions and good energy. Which the illuminati where like a stitched up energy suit.  Assholes have always been in charge. You're either a dumb murdering animal for the shepards. Or a vital piece to their "intellectual property". Or you're just fucking clothing threads.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:13 | 525805 MachoMan
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Nobody uses nuclear weapons except when your opponent burrows in holes, fights with shovels, rams planes into your carriers, and promises to crawl out of the holes twenty years later and not know the war is over and be willing to throw down, and you get sick of it.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:27 | 526216 stollcri
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Nobody uses nuclear weapons except when their real enemy is about to win the battle that they would like to take credit for winning and thus keep open a colonial door.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:14 | 525807 Ned Zeppelin
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You're right. Living in peace and not hassling others who don't believe in your religion is one of the defining hallmarks of Islam.

Not.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:17 | 525816 megatoxic
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Fuck yeah!

Let's nuke all the Muslims!

You are a dumb-fucking asshole.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:05 | 526309 Cow
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Clearly you have run out of (if you ever had any) good and rational comments.  Go away.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:07 | 525952 CrockettAlmanac.com
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You're right. Living in peace and not hassling others who don't believe in your religion is one of the defining hallmarks of Islam.

Historically true. When the West imposed itself on Muslim countries following the fall of the Ottoman Empire they took umbrage. Of course you would probably love to see your nation overrun by foreign business and military interests, so you are better than the Muslims.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:24 | 526002 Ned Zeppelin
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respectfully disagree, sir.  Islam is intolerant of other faiths by its very nature.  The mistaken notion that it is tolerant or "moderate", a religion of peace, is strictly a product of modern Western political correctness.

Now, that doesn't mean you nuke them, battle them, kill them, etc. In fact, quite the contrary. But first, understand what you are dealing with.   I would not hold out nominal Christians as being particularly tolerant either, but you won't find backing for intolerance in the New Testament, whereas it can be found easily in the Quran.

Them's the facts, Jack.  Read both and tell me what you find.

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:20 | 526346 jakoye
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Correct. Christianity had its "conquer and convert" phase, but this was inspired less by the teachings of Jesus Christ than it was based on simple human greed and intolerance.

The difference with the Muslim religion is that their prophet was a warrior and had to make war in order to make a place for his religion and its adherents. This is 100% different than Jesus (or Buddah, for that matter), who held no earthly power beyond that of convincing some few people through his words and deeds that he was divinely inspired. Jesus and his followers put no one to the sword.

Thus, it is not surprising that a religion based on war is constantly at war with all competing religions and peoples. This is the legacy of Muhammed. People can (and do) deny it, but those are the facts. Islam, I do not believe, will ever be able to live in peace with its neighbors. There will always be old men who believe in the fantasy that they are the personal representatives of Muhammed on Earth and plenty of hungry for glory young men who will willingly follow the hateful preaching of the old men.

There simply will be no peace on Earth until all war-based religions are eradicated.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:28 | 526363 megatoxic
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"Eradicated?"

Sounds like you've got your own "war-based religion" there, bud.

Wed, 08/18/2010 - 11:43 | 528227 jakoye
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I don't think forcibly converting Muslims to some other faith (or not faith at all) will solve the problem (nor do I think it's possible). Nor do I think killing a bunch of Muslims will work either. That will just feed into their collective conspiracy theories.

The only thing I think will work to turn Islam into that "religion of peace" it supposedly is, is for the adherents of Islam to experience something akin to the Enlightment that occurred in the Western world. Religion has to lose its primacy in the life of everyday Muslims, replaced hopefully by a belief in the scientific method and logical thought.

In the meantime, we just have to wait patiently for this transformation to occur and pick off the wild offshoots of this religion who seek to do us harm.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 16:42 | 526909 Quantum Nucleonics
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Iran does have the distinction of being the only country among those you mention to be led by someone who believes it is his role to bring about the return of the 12th Imam by hastening the apocalypse, purging the world of evil infidels (that would include you and me) and establishing a Shite Islam Caliphate to rule the world.

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 17:51 | 527073 Ned Zeppelin
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Rest my case. 

Wed, 08/18/2010 - 12:26 | 528326 themosmitsos
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Try & keep your language more neutral, nobody called you names dummy.

And yes, those countries haven't used nukes yet. But A) they didn't obtain them w/the objective being AGAINST the USA, and B) the game ain't over child. Long memory you must have, ohh they've got them for 3-4-5-6-7 yrs, nothing happened, nothing's going to happen. Sure.

Like I said, your silly hippy need for a pretense of rainbows and marshmellows aside, you have to fucntion in the world you live in, not the one you want, like you have to trade the market you see, not the market you think. People don't behave the way you'd like & describe on a simply neighborly basis, let alone the community or national level, and I'm sure the least of that human behavior, comes from the likes of you.

ps: "Rapture Bitchezzz" hahahaha :)

Wed, 08/18/2010 - 12:24 | 528335 themosmitsos
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ooops sorry, posted twice

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:48 | 525746 doggings
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yea i'd go with "fuck off" idiot too.

who did you get to do the capcha maths for you?

they clearly know they would have like 2, as opposed to the many thousands that would rain back down on them if they fired theirs.

if I was Iranian with all those nukes potentially pointed at me i would want a few too.

 

 

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:52 | 525757 Sudden Debt
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they got their DEATHline to get their house in order. I don't think they'll do it. Iran does have a pretty good anti air defense so a air strike is out of the picture and doesn't have enough ground troops to invade the country.

Only a sneak attack will do the trick. And SOMEHOW I do think these guys are prepared for it.

For me it's pretty clear. Iran will get their plutonium and nobody will act against it.

Prepare for stage 2 in the moslim crap story.

Luckely the US has Obama which is a Muslim to (former I know but I don't buy it, look at ground zero mosk)

 

Time to print some bumper stickers: "WE ARE FUCKED"

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:16 | 525813 fajensen
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The Iranians are not "Muslim" - they are Shiites (and they will kick Saudi's ass over that little point of disagreement well before they "do" any Jews in Israel)

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:09 | 525960 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The Iranians are not "Muslim" - they are Shiites

Right...and Catholics aren't Christians, either.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:12 | 526155 tmosley
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Your great grandfather probably thought the same thing, as "they" were waging a worldwide campaign of terror (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_deed)

What he didn't get was that just because these guys were from Southern Europe didn't mean they were Catholics, nor did it mean they followed any of their teachings.  That didn't stop the spread of a hundred years of anti-catholic hatred in the US.  The exact same thing is happening today, we've just substituted a new group into our five minute hates.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 21:14 | 527384 CrockettAlmanac.com
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But my great grandfather was Catholic. I'm pretty sure he knew he was a Christian, ya know?

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:49 | 526425 UncleFurker
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Catholics in Mexico consider Christians to be a separate religion.

 

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:10 | 525963 Citizen of an I...
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...The Iranians are not "Muslim" - they are Shiites...

You are an idiot.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:04 | 525785 ZackAttack
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if Iran gets nukes, they *WILL* use them against Israel

 

Two problems solved at once.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:49 | 525915 SheepDog-One
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ZackAttack, +100 for best post of the day!!

Wed, 08/18/2010 - 12:29 | 528356 themosmitsos
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Heyyyyyyyyy NOW YOU'RE TALKING friend, my kinda thinking!

LEZzzzzzzz be friendzzz! :)

hahahaha

EXCELLENT!

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:31 | 525852 MountainMan
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Nice try, but don't fool yourself...Iran attacking the United States? Give me a break.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:51 | 526270 francismarion
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 The Jews: for the sake of expediency they fed Christ to the Romans.

These Israel-haters: For the sake of expediency, they would feed Israel to hell.

Confusion reigns. Hate soars. Destruction beckons.

Israel will not be destroyed.

America still has a backbone.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:54 | 526280 francismarion
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themosmitsos, your junks are a badge of honor.

Sat, 08/21/2010 - 10:10 | 534610 themosmitsos
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Hey you too, Lezzz be Friendzzz ;)

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 14:40 | 526552 hound dog vigilante
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"if Iran gets nukes, they *WILL* use them against Israel and then USA. Sometimes, you HAVE to fight,and when you're gonna have to,you're better off picking when it starts. RULE #1"

 

...just like we *WILL* be fighting for rat meat in the streets if Wall St. isn't bailed-out.

...just like N Korea *WILL* attack (someone) if they go nuclear.

...just like Russia *WILL* start a thermonuclear war if we don't build a masive stockpile of nukes ourselves.

 

When did americans turn into a nation of ever-fearful pussies?  Seems to me that the entire neocon POV is based upon being a sniveling cowardly pussy of the highest order. Perhaps that's what happens when foreign policy is dictated by kissenger-esque academics & draft dodgers/deferrals.

 

I for one have no fear of Iran, Russia, N. Korea, China, et al.   Call me if/when the Iranian/Chinese hoards start landing on US beaches.  I won't hold my breath, and I won't be living in fear in the meantime.

 

Wed, 08/18/2010 - 12:01 | 528269 jakoye
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"...just like we *WILL* be fighting for rat meat in the streets if Wall St. isn't bailed-out."

Since they actually did the bailout, there's no way to know what would've happened if we hadn't of done the bailout.

"...just like N Korea *WILL* attack (someone) if they go nuclear."

Just because they haven't attacked anyone yet does not mean they won't in the future. Hitler came to power in 1933 but WWII didn't start until 1939. Are you seriously suggesting that the world is a safer place with North Korea in possession of nuclear weapons???

"..just like Russia *WILL* start a thermonuclear war if we don't build a masive stockpile of nukes ourselves."

Except, we *did* build a large stockpile of nuclear weapons and there was no nuclear war between the US and the USSR, so it seems that policy you're decrying actually worked!

"I for one have no fear of Iran, Russia, N. Korea, China, et al.   Call me if/when the Iranian/Chinese hoards start landing on US beaches."

If the hordes start landing on the beaches, sir, it's already too late.

"Seems to me that the entire neocon POV is based upon being a sniveling cowardly pussy of the highest order."

I don't think it's being pussy-ish to look at the world in a clear-eyed fashion and to assess the possible threats to the interests of your country and of its allies. That's just called "being prepared" and it's what adults do instead of the empty, macho posturing that immature males like yourself engage in.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:33 | 525859 SheepDog-One
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Snowball777, I dont care HOW many of these human cattle flag down your post, youre EXACTLY RIGHT!!

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:44 | 526265 tamboo
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you'd keep giving him taxpayer dough and weapons so he could funnel some of said dough back to you. then you can motivate his enemies to take out a hefty loan to buy more weapons since his sabre rattling is spooking them. kick off another war and destroy a bunch of resources that will have to be replaced through more loans. lather rinse repeat.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 14:10 | 526488 Tarheel
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gotta love the libs who stand up for everyone who has bombed/hurt this country. suck it snowball. 

Regarding this article, it is a shame that the world has to rely on Israel to get anything done. UN sanctions dont work. Hell, the UN doesnt work!

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:09 | 525641 Misean
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Bolthead

Stupid little neo-clown warpig.  Can't believe he mustered up a caring statement for the lives of non tribe members.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:17 | 525667 King_of_simpletons
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Bolton is a senile dolt.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:18 | 525818 Oh regional Indian
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A senile Dolton...

ORI

http:///aadivaahan.wordpress.com

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:10 | 525643 Mercury
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...and in 9 days if Iranian nuclear weapons ambitions are ever to be thwarted, the "International Community" will have to give Iran all kinds of goodies.

Message to all tin-pot dictators of the world: Throw everything you can into building a viable nuclear program for yourself and you can have goodies too.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:11 | 525648 snowball777
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Message to all nations sitting on valuable commodities, if you want to prevent assimilation, you will need to acquire nuclear weapons.

 

That is all.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:13 | 525650 megatoxic
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I am really rooting for Iran to get the nuke. 

The more nations that have the nuke, the fewer places around the world where the US can spend my grandchildren's patrimony on fuck-tard wars.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:36 | 525869 SheepDog-One
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You keep tellin it Megatoxic, pay no mind to these fuktards who say Israel the known terrorist state having 250 nuke ICBM's is 'good', while Iran having the PROSPECT of ONE nuke is simply not acceptable. Down with Zion.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:55 | 526441 UncleFurker
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I guess the twits that junked your post can't so simple math.

Question 1.

Which country in the "axis of evil" didn't have nuclear arms protection?

Question 2.

Which country in the "axis of evil" got turned into a clusterfuck by neocon fucktards.

3. What is the best way to ensure that neocon fucktards leave your country alone?

 

 

 

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:17 | 525662 Mercury
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Yeah, the nuclear-free, oil-rich Arab states have all assimilated  completely to the great Western mono-culture; their unique and mysterious folkways are gone forever.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:19 | 525669 snowball777
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Sadly, no, they're just as tribal as ever; we've never cared if the natives go Idi Amin as long as the taps flow.

Who needs a nuke when Papa Sam lets you oppress as you please?

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:26 | 525689 LeBalance
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All but Iran are in control of the Anglo-Judeo Mafia.

Last stand against Usury.

But no fear, they will be assimilated.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:41 | 525726 Cognitive Dissonance
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Bingo. We have a winner.

It's all about economic control. Or more accurately it's all about economic systems and the control of those systems.

Thanks LeBalance for making that crystal clear.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:48 | 525744 Oswald Spengler
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Well, of course it is. It is better to be the controller than the controlled.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:20 | 525824 fajensen
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Didn't they just find Oil in Afghanistan too? Thought so! Worth dying for as long as it is someome else doing the dying and the fighting to "liberate" all them ressources.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:03 | 525786 Max Hunter
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Indeed... I think Indonesia has made a stand against western central banking as well..

Usury is the weapon.. It prevents the creation of wealth for the majority and keeps us in a life of servitude and debt..

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:24 | 525836 Oh regional Indian
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Once you see the nations with "Central" banks, all kow-towing to the BIS, things become quite clear.

The fact that the great Islamo-Christian Stand-off also includes opposing views on finance is interesting. If Islam had been all hunky dory on interest, we'd have a peaceful world. Everyone would be assimilated.

Every thesis needs it's anti-thesis though.

So we have this. 

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:00 | 525936 MachoMan
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This is ludicrous.  There are two competing theories in the world, lending with interest and goat fucking/female genital mutilation.  You show me a country without interest lending and I'll show you a fucking backwards ass country (maybe not even cognisant of the industrial revolution).  

The choice in today's world is simple.  Either let the credit flow, get R & D, arts and sciences, technology gains, the possibility of upward mobility (without usury, relative wealth positions remain constant), and the possibility of a viable middle class OR wait on your hands hoping somehow your population and political structure have more resolve than the deteriorating economic conditions/depletion of your resources.

I know Mako harps on this, that we always choose credit.  Well, it's pretty obvious why we choose it...  yes, it subjects us to boom/bust cycles...  and yes, depending on the size of the bust, we may face annihilation as a result, but by and large, we stair step upwards, having been left with technology, infrastructure, etc. from the previous cycle.  When deciding between eternal stagnation or the possibility of something better, WE WILL ALWAYS CHOOSE THE LATTER.

You should be more concerned with the distribution of wealth, than its creation...  you have to figure out how to fairly distribute it in the face of the necessity of usury.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:31 | 526017 Greyzone
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Credit is not the source of our R&D, arts and sciences, etc. Credit is just an abstraction. Find the reality behind that veil and you'll understand why the advancement would have occurred regardless of whether we had credit or not.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:21 | 526197 citationneeded
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Credit might not be the source, but it is the multiplier. There is a bootstrapping effect that allows R&D, arts and sciences to be conducted by more than just those with aristocratic connections.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 16:32 | 526883 MachoMan
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Don't worry buddy, you just sit back and watch over the next decade or two (probably vastly too generous on longevity) as credit is reined in.  You'll see what falls by the wayside in the process.

PS, I'm glad you're omniscient because I can't tell you what the hell would have happened if the past was altered.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:14 | 526168 tmosley
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I love how female genital mutilation is looked down upon, while the barbaric practice of circumcision is apparently just fine.  Backwards-ass indeed.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 15:00 | 526620 Temporalist
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In 10 seconds of searching the intertubes one will find thousands of examples of people choosing to mutilate their own genitalia.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 16:09 | 526826 MachoMan
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Apples and oranges.  It would be the equivalent of sewing up your dick hole or rubbing sandpaper on your cock enough to where you had a dick so grizzled you could no longer be stimulated enough to ejaculate.

PS, why would you want to have a bunch of dick cheese?

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:26 | 526198 fiddler_on_the_roof
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R&D and startups are not financed by Usury, but by credit which has equity stake. If the venture fails, equity is lost and Investor loses and cannot collect any Interest/Principal. How convuluted thinking ? Sorry I had to Junk you.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:53 | 526278 tamboo
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usury is the perfect method for the parasite to drain the host.

The facts about Usury: Why Islam is Against Lending Money at Interest

http://www.mustaqim.co.uk/usury.htm

http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.com/2009/06/biological-jew-pt-1-by...

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:27 | 526362 jakoye
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Uh, yeah... I'll start following 7th century economic advice when you show me a Muslim country that is not an economic basket case.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 14:00 | 526451 UncleFurker
Tue, 08/17/2010 - 16:19 | 526851 MachoMan
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hence my statement(s) on resource depletion...

Wed, 08/18/2010 - 12:06 | 528286 jakoye
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Yes, of course one can point to Islamic nations that sit on a crapton of oil, the world's currently preferred source of energy. But what happens when the oil runs out or when the world switches to a different preferred fuel?

For an introduction to what Brunei will look like in that future, just look at any Islamic country in the world today that doesn't sit on a big pile of oil.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 14:24 | 526516 Hunch Trader
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Islamic banking is the most fucked up doublespeak on earth, they do not collect 'interest' but the bank will be your 'partner' in whatever endeavor you need money for, and then you need to buy what you wanted piece by piece from the bank (as in monthly installments...uh, purchases).

The end result being, that you end up paying more to the bank than what the original price was. But when it's not called 'interest' then it's not interest! What an awesome and enlightening concept.

Moreover, due to the complexity of these arrangements, the total cost will be higher for an islamic loan, than an ordinary bank loan with interest.

But hey, at least it's Prophet Approved™ !!

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 19:36 | 527277 Doctor sahab
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I agree with you that in the fiat based system Islamic banking ends up being more expensive. Now I'm not a financial person but I wonder what would happen if there was real money, gold and silver. To my understanding, all religions forbade interest (since they are all from the same source). Not trying to flame but I've recently become more interested in this stuff.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 22:58 | 527525 MachoMan
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gold and silver systems fail too...  whether it's melting the currency and replacing it with even less of the underlying precious metals...  or ratcheting up the ponzi through borrowing/lending of pm's...  same thing...  eventually the debt ridden assets can't keep up with the payments due and we get a bust.

Like I said, there are 2 choices...  one is the present boom/bust cycle we've grown to not only accept, but love...  the other, a stagnant shitstorm, perpetually teetering on the brink of destruction, for whatever reason.  Think of it in terms of misery...  a world full of misery all at once, very direct...  or a little misery all the time.  No right or wrong answer...  just different strategy.

PS, I sincerely doubt we put anyone on the moon without the credit system...  just saying.  I think the exponential growth in research and development and technological advancement is something only the boom/bust cycle provides.  It's a beast we've yet to tame.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:32 | 525861 Brindle702
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Isn't Russia outside of that control too?  Iran:  "It is better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven."

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:29 | 526212 fiddler_on_the_roof
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Neither Russia/China/Japan are free. Their rulers serves themselves - elites/oligarchs. The conflicts are all just a magic show.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:19 | 526188 fiddler_on_the_roof
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No you missed out Venezuela/Chavez. They will be the richest country in a few decades - richest in both Oil and Gold. Chavez will be taken out soon.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:13 | 525654 Commander Cody
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It appears the US is itching to prop up the military-industrial complex with another war.  The Bushehr power reactor poses no danger to anyone other than misguided neocons.  Spoiling for this fight is pure imperialist bullshit.  Russia will get dragged into the fray as they built and will operate the plant for the Iranians.  Someone please drag Bolton off to the asylum.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:31 | 525700 GIANTKILR
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This will be the last ditch effort to save the economy!

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:49 | 525916 ZakuKommander
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But according to "Neo-Con think," it's a serious danger if it goes online and THEN we bomb it, releasing radiation.  So to protect Iranians we need to bomb now!

Imagine a Government with Palin at the helm and Bolton by her side.  

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:14 | 525658 unwashedmass
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and we were so worried that the forever war would be ending soon! No worries!!!!

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:14 | 525659 Yikes
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It's already too late.  It's a done deal.  Iran will go nuclear. 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:54 | 525762 Sudden Debt
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Yep, because Sjeik Obama has still got a bit to much muslim blood to act against it.

Alah Aleikum Mother Fuckers!

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:15 | 525978 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Sjeik Obama has still got a bit to much muslim blood

Ha ha! A Muslim is the President of the USA and he can use the tyrannical laws enacted by the Bush regime to arrest you without cause or blow you up with a hellfire missile.

Ha ha!

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:54 | 526281 tamboo
Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:18 | 525664 EZYJET PILOT
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Mercury there are no nuclear weapons in Iran you twat. Israel has all the weapons, everyone knows that, just as we all should know by now that they are the terrorists in the middle east. End of story! I get so angry when I see this aggression against a country that has every right to posses a nuclear reactor, yet those same self serving sycophantic idiots fail to condemn the Khazarian Jews in charge of Israel for their nuclear arsenal. This world is fucked because of the ignorance displayed by the likes of you.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:31 | 525684 Mercury
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They may not have nuclear weapons now but they'd be fools not to try and acquire/build them now that initial infrastructure is in place.  The incentives for smaller, less politically stable states are clear: get nukes and all kinds of concessions will be made to you.  I don't think this pattern will end happily but we shall see.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:20 | 525670 Hephasteus
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"We have NO Influence with Russia"

Well maybe it's not such a good idea to fuck them over economically and crash their entire economy in 1998. Tends to diminish influence you have.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:44 | 525737 King_of_simpletons
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Russia has recovered. We are in for decades of lost growth and ruin. What goes around comes around....

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:43 | 525842 Hephasteus
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I bet Larry Summers junked me.

Haha. He did. Did you and Benny use go to meeting.com while you were fucking russia over or did you waste gas flying there cause it was real important that america be the only super power monopoly money franchizer.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:29 | 526367 Cow
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hey!  Obama bought Putin a hamburger and fries.  Quit bitchin!

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:21 | 525671 Lord Maximus
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Bolton = Neo-Con?!?!

I did not know John Bolton was a former, flaming liberal in his early years, nor a Jew.

If you don't know what a neocon really is, then refrain from using it.

Bolton is easily one of the brightest and most informative men in regards to foreign policy. They vilify him b/c he knows what he is talking about and gets things done. He is a diehard patriot.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:26 | 525687 snowball777
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He is a moron, a henchman for Israeli (not 'Jew') interests, and brings shame to our great nation each and every time he opens his big mouth.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:27 | 525691 Treeplanter
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Bolton knows his stuff.  One of the few people in the business worth listening to.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:28 | 525695 shargash
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Neo-conservatism is an ideology. The originators of that ideology may have been formerly liberal Jews, but that does not mean it is incorrect to refer to a moron like Bolton as a Neo-con if he adheres to a Neo-con ideology.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:28 | 525697 pods
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Ummm, Bolton was a part of PNAC.  Unless you forgot the /sarcasm switch.

pods

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:34 | 525706 megatoxic
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Hmmm.....I guess Bolton is not a neocon warpig.

Let's get it right.

He's a lapdog to neocon warpigs.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:41 | 525710 nonclaim
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I didn't like the way he was appointed by B, during congress recess, but later I understood why he would never be approved by the pink congress: too bright a mind and a straight talker to be rolled over with sweet views of a Utopian future.

I'll be junked too but it won't change the facts. If one doesn't like Bolton it is for the wrong reasons.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:39 | 525721 A Man without Q...
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A very close friend of mine was working for the defense department of a foreign government in 2001.  They were at the final stages of signing a treaty to ban biological weapons when Bolton told the conference that the US was not going to sign.  He told delegates that the treaty was too restrictive for US commercial interests.  S

o, he is not a Neo-con because he was never a liberal, but he was the Neo-cons Rottweiler.   He may be in your opinion, one of the brightest men on foreign policy who sits in that camp, but you know what they say about one eyed men in the land of the blind.  To most foreign governments he is seen as a pompous blow-hard.  In my opinion, the guy is an idiot but if you are like him, you won't care about anybody else's opinion.

One more thing, Bolton is not known for getting things done, but rather stopping things being done. 

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/may/21/usa.marktran

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:11 | 525801 megatoxic
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I'm no great fan of Bolton, as you can see from my comments on this thread, but sometimes it is a far greater achievement to STOP things being done than to "get things done."

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:37 | 525870 A Man without Q...
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Sometimes, yes, but a biological weapons treaty?  

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:44 | 525893 megatoxic
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Treaties like that generally aren't worth the paper they're printed on.  They represent nothing more than make-work projects for people like your friends in the various Ministries of State around the world and a salve to the delicate consciences of Western liberals.

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:05 | 526132 jakoye
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For this, yes.

For everything else you've posted on this thread, no.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:26 | 526214 Canucklehead
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Are you sure you represented the comments from your very close friend properly? 

I too have a very close friend who works with your close friend at that same defense department of that very same foreign government.  In fact, as they work closely together, they both are very close friends, closer than you and I.  Getting back to the story, my close friend told me that in discussions with your close friend that they both jointly felt the treaty to ban biological weapons was not worth the paper it was printed on.  While they held these opinions to themselves as good teamplayers do, Bolton stepped up and pulled the plug on the treaty.

Though they agreed with Bolton's results, they could not be seen supporting his action.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 14:03 | 526464 UncleFurker
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>Bolton is easily one of the brightest and most informative men in regards to foreign policy.

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Oh shit I can't stop laughing. That's gold, Jerry, GOLD!

 

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Tue, 08/17/2010 - 14:51 | 526597 Cow
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Bolton is a no bullshit guy who has heard his share of bullshit at the UN.  Anyone who has survived that place, deserves a medal. 

I agree with Lord Max. Calling someone a neocon is quite obtuse.  "Neocon" is a loosely defined term and means virtually nothing.  So someone is now conservative!  Big F'in deal.  Neolib, Neocon, blah blah.

He is an extremely bright and has a great way of cutting through the usual BS the diplomats barf up on TV.

+100

 

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:20 | 525673 Segestan
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Russia.. the irresponsible parent of an ignorant , now dangerous child... Iran.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:45 | 525903 SheepDog-One
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USA, the irresponsible parent of a spoiled brat terrorist trust fund kid with 250 nuke ICBM's... Israel.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:18 | 525985 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Russia.. the irresponsible parent of an ignorant , now dangerous child... Iran.

Persia predates Russia by millenia. Try again.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:21 | 525674 optimator
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Bolton is one of the Israeli operatives, so we should take him at face value.  If Israel is going to attempt to strike Iran the U.S. should pull all it's forces from the area as I wouldn't want to see another "Liberty" incident attempting to lure us into another war. 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:36 | 525713 megatoxic
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Rule #1 from the Latter Day Protocols:

"If anyone shall mention the Liberty incident, we shall vilify him as an anti-semite."

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:18 | 525988 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Remember the USS Liberty.

Never, ever forget.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:44 | 525729 John McCloy
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Israel will never permit the U.S. to leave the region. They must keep America in the Middle at current levels at all costs. We are beginning to leave Iraq and they know that the rhetoric at home is beginning to call for a removal from Afghanistan. Even more puzzling is the American zombies are awakening and beginning to see the sensationalizing of the health care workers deaths, The Time life cover plant, General McChrystal purposely arranging to retire early and reject the complex attempts for further war. Factor in Wikileaks concerns and the new documents coming out shortly and anger over Flotilla raid + recent picture of the female soldier posing with captures. Israel knows it is getting serious now. There is too much independent media for stories to be manufactured because of the Internet. The Presidents ratings are at record lows. Israel knows it must attack before we withdraw from Afghanistan because they cannot risk us not returning if their is positive political change in 2012 and an isolationist stance is taken. They know we are in a financial noose and cannot even risk The president beginning rhetoric of possible withdrawal before they attack. They must attack soon so that the US is forced to back Israel. I imagine it will be before Wikileaks new docs. They will never let us leave.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:53 | 525756 Oswald Spengler
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You really know how to connect the dots. Where were you on 9/10?

Thu, 08/19/2010 - 08:46 | 529959 fajensen
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Funnily enough, I was shorting Ebay.com. I made money on the trade too after 9/11 but not as much as I made by going long Raytheon when the market opened again. I bet Bin Ladens backers made much, much more though - maybe even enough to rent the presidential plane for their trip out of the US?

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:03 | 526305 tamboo
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wikileaks is controlled op with ties to soros.

oh noes! he's endangering our troops!

assange bad! war good!

http://geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com/2010/08/webster-tarpley-julian-...

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:22 | 525675 RobotTrader
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Problem:  Geopolitical strife is increasing risk of Middle East conflagration

Solution:  Buy ES futures and sell gold

LOL....

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:41 | 525728 aint no fortuna...
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Yes!!!! that's impeccable logic!

And sell the dollar!

http://forex.tradingcharts.com/chart/Euro_US%20Dollar.html

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:51 | 525753 Internet Tough Guy
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Gold is green robotroll. Where's your ski jump picture?

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:22 | 525676 sweaty7
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Bolton should be tried for treason. he makes my stomach turn.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:28 | 525696 LeBalance
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Please define to whom he owes his allegiance.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:44 | 525736 lynnybee
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...and just WHEN are we going to start lining people up for treason charges !  Let's add the real criminals to the list, Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Hank Paulsen, Clinton, Bush, Bernanke, Greenspan, BLAH ! 

People ~~ I'm a 60-year-old grandma & can't do this myself !    Will I be out there on the streets by myself with my protest sign in one hand & my water bottle in the other all alone !    I just can't take much more of this bullshit out of WASHINGTON / WALL ST.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:44 | 525887 Marla And Me
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Unfortunately Lynny, those are just the faces of the real criminal empire that are put up for us to see, so that we can have an outlet for anger and frustration.  The Dulles, duPonts, Morgans, Rockerfellers, Rothschilds, Royal families, Vatican, and the large corporations of the world would still be there after the removal of the cabal.  And it's a pipe dream to believe that the next leaders would be some benevolent overseers:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704407804575425561952689390.html?mod=WSJ_LifeStyle_LeadStoryNA

When you learn about research like the article above, or the Stanford prison experiment and Jane Elliot's body of work, you realize that you're fighting one heck of an uphill battle.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:54 | 525921 aint no fortuna...
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I feel your pain lynny. If its any consolation, I'm a 60 y.o. man and I'm hoping there are a LOT of us out on the streets soon... and quite frankly if it takes more than signs and water bottles that's fine by me. I'd rather die on the streets than live in this gulag that the corporations have bought lock, stock and barrel. We're nothing but serfs and a source of funds for a bunch of freaking criminal bankers, oil men, media plants, and arms merchants, and their whores in the US government.

Oh look, the market's rallying to highs of the day - have they launched the strike aircraft already?

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:46 | 526068 downrodeo
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yep, right on. We're slaves of the mind. Although our cages are lined with Ipods and hi-def televisions, the bars are not any less permeable.  It's coming though, we've had it up to our ever-receding hairline. Pretty soon, we won't tolerate being called crazy for looking at things though a sane pair of eyes, we're going to stand up and say something en masse. It starts as one person, but you'll be noticed. I would encourage you not to refrain from protest because you're by yourself. 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:47 | 525743 kato
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he should be put on an island for idiocy. along with anyone named bush and all of the bush cronies.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:24 | 525677 pods
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"The Russians are, as they often do, playing both sides against the middle. The idea of being able to stick a thumb in America's eye always figures prominently in Moscow."

 

Now replace Russians with Bankers and Moscow with City of London and you have an accurate statement.

pods

 

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 12:10 | 526147 jakoye
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Idiotic. To attribute every world event to evil bankers is Bolshevistik at best and mentally disturbed at worst.

You think Russia is aiding Iran because of those evil Russian bankers? Ermm... try again, pods. Russia is doing it because they're a poor country and they need the cash! (and yes, Russia could actually be a rich country with all their natural resources, but their government is beyond corrupt and has been for decades)

I don't really begrudge Russia for doing what's in their best interest. This is what countries do and it is entirely their right to do so. If we could only see that in a clear-eyed way, then we'd be much better to prepared to deal with the world as it is rather than as we wish it to be.

Tue, 08/17/2010 - 09:24 | 525681 Azannoth
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"..once the Bushehr facility is operational it will be too late for a military air strike against Iran because such an attack would affect too many Iranian civilians due to the spread radiation."

 

This is exactly what the Jews are waiting for, to cause the most damage to the Iranian civilian population

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