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France Warns Iran Over Plans For Third Uranium Enrichment Plant
Yesterday's statement by Iran's atomic chief Ali Akbar Salehi that the Islamic republic's search for sites for 10 new enrichment facilities is coming to an end, is already generating heavy condemnation by the international community. AFP reports that "France warned on Monday that already serious international concerns over Iran's nuclear programme have deepened after Tehran said it would start building a third uranium enrichment site next year. "This announcement only worsens the international community's serious concerns about Iran's nuclear programme," said foreign ministry spokeswoman Christine Fages. This comes hot on the heels of last week's condemnation by various developed countries, who did not take kindly to the announcement that Russia would supply reactor fuel for the country's first nuclear plant near Busheher, now expected to launch imminently.
More from AFP:
Iran's atomic chief Ali Akbar Salehi said on Sunday that the Islamic republic's search for sites for 10 new enrichment facilities "is in its final stages."
He said the construction of one of these will begin by the end of the current Iranian year, that is before March 2011, or the start of the next year.
Iran is already enriching uranium at its main plant in the central city of Natanz and is building a second enrichment facility inside a mountain at Fordo, southwest of Tehran.
The country's hardline president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, announced the planned construction of 10 new enrichment plants late in 2009 after Tehran was censured by the UN atomic watchdog over building the Fordo facility.
Salehi, who is also one of 12 vice presidents of Iran, has previously said that any new uranium plants the Islamic republic builds would be located at places which cannot be targeted by air strikes.
He did not specify where the third plant would be located.
"If confirmed, this decision would be a fresh violation by Iran of its obligations under six United Nations Security Council resolutions," Fages said.
The most recent resolution, dating from June 9, says "without ambiguity" that Iran must not undertake "the construction of any new enrichment facility," the spokeswoman added.
France considers that "the enrichment programme has no identifiable civilian end" as Iran's only reactor likely to be operational in coming years is at Bushehr, a power plant for which Russia will supply fuel.
Russian atomic agency Rosatom has said that the highly sensitive Bushehr plant in southern Iran will be formally launched on August 21.
Iran's arch-foes the United States and Israel have never ruled out military strikes against Tehran to halt its nuclear programme which they suspect is aimed at making weapons.
Further adding to the escalation in deteriorating relations was last week's announcement that Iran has now found a way to transact its oil trades in currencies away from the dollar and the euro. It is becoming increasingly evident that the jawboning on either side of the diplomatic debate will not end peacefully, although with oil dropping (contrary to signals sent by the aberration that are stocks), seems to indicate that at least the oil trading community is not all too concerned about an imminent flare up in weaponized border festivities.
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After AUG 21st, when Iranian uranium enrichment plant is operational, which one of you geniuses can tell me what happens if you bomb and breach that facility then, ONCE OPERATIONAL?
Hey thermo, why would anyone bomb a reactor intended for peaceful purposes and operated under the auspices and morals of the Religion of Peace? Get with the program buddy, Mecca is thataway.
A uranium enrichment plant is not a reactor. Iran has only one almost-operational large reactor: Busheer. This plant was begun by Germany under the Shah's reign, bombed by Israel back in the '80s, and finished recently by the Russians. The Russians required the Iranians to agree to have Russia supply the fresh fuel and take back the spent fuel. This was done years ago when the Russians and Iranians were negotiating the contract and is not news. The Busheer plant's purpose is to supply electricity and if the agreement with the Russians is adhered to, then it is not a proliferation risk.
The real problem with the Iranians is that they insist on the right to enrich uranium in quantities out of proportion to their need. For what purpose? They have a few small research reactors that need fuel but this is a small amount and they can procure it elsewhere. Their nuclear enterprise is geared toward the large-scale production of enriched uranium which can also be used to produce weapons-grade uranium. The Iranians have also stonewalled the IAEA on the answer to questions regarding activities they have undertaken that have a definite weapons purpose. They talk peaceful but their motives are very much suspect. They and the west will drag this out until Iran has the bomb, and like North Korea, the world will have another nuclear power to contend with. Apparently, only Israel's methods are effective at stemming the tide.
Mixing your history. Israel bombed Iraq's reactor in Osirak 1981. Israel has never bombed Iran's reactors.
I'll tell you what happens, since you can't think on your own- a lot of Iranians die.
If one believes Russian statements saying that's when the rods go in.
My question is how long can those piece of junk Russian produced Iranian air defense batteries stay on red alert. I'm thinkin about a day before the air strike(s).
Tick tock...zzzzzzz.
And yes, they are junk. Israel proved that in Syria when they blew up the North Korean supplied "agriculture outpost"...in the middle of a desert...LOL.
Why bomb a power plant? I thought the enrichment facilities were the problem.
France Warns.
LOL Fucking Joke. France Warns. Warns what? What they gonna do besides warn? March to Italy with their hands on their heads? Stop selling ties, wine and hootchie cootchie vids to the believers? Expropriate their 6th Androisment flats? Improve the lot in the Banlieue?
France Warns, my ass.
Make a great reality show, like Jersey Shore.
I would imagine the conversation looked something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs
That was my first thought too. LMAO. Warned by the french, oooo they must be scared now.
I also liked the implication in
that France was not a developed country. Just a matter of time if you ask me...
uh when was it you bombed Iran:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iKuMVqht4U
Paroles, paroles, encore des mots, toujours des mots... wouarf !
kiki l'a dans le cul?
http://www.iran-resist.org/article6049.html
I'll have a shot at this tho am guessing, as it's an important question. I'd guess such a facility wil be full of centrifuges containing gaseous uranium, and potentially stores of depleted uranium. I don't think you would put your end product, enriched uranium, outside the back door if you know what I mean. Even if Iran did, very difficult to cause a significant nuclear explosion, though such things are not impossible if you don't store the stuff sensibly.
So after an attack you would get diffuse natural uranium and depleted uranium in the air. I'm not sure that is all that dangerous, the heavy particles should hit the ground soon after. Surely this is similar to the US military using depleted uranium....
From wikipedia:
Note careful use of "potentially". So, to be clear, no nuclear explosions, no fallout, but "potentially" localised nasty long term effects of which all western militaries will be aware but will probably deny exist.
Well that's my attempt as a physicist, feel free to disagree.
Here here, friend
that's the point. Striking Iranian facilities: minimum result, wide scale contamination of general areas, INCLUDING AREAS AROUND TEHRAN..........extrapolate :( meaning Iranian countermove :(
Say all you want about Debka (ex-Mossad), but there is some significant shit happening.
http://www.debka.com/article/8970/
I'll bet foreign policy genius Obama is really pissed about this double cross right after he bought Medvedev a burger and fries. Mofo got no respect.
"Middle East expert Jeffrey Goldberg". What a hoot. I guess nowadays being a snivelling shill for the power-elite automatically makes you an "expert".
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2010/08/greenwald-how-propagandists-function-ex...
Excellent counter point. Consider the source. However, the true question is, does the "propoganda" make an Israeli attack more or less likely?
Well it obviously doesn't make it less likely.
Exactly. And that's the only thing that matters.
reading from the "power-elite" scripts is what makes one an "expert", indeed.
Running out of ink for strongly worded statements.
Ink bitchez!
It seems as if Iran may want to be attacked for reasons I don't quite understand.
If they wanted these facilities, but not to be attacked, they would proceed in a more quiet, less provocative way, perhaps refusing to discuss them at all. Instead, they are intentionally provocative about it. Wonder what their game is....
Perhaps they should simply be taken at their word?
If you can actually translate what their words are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
Ahmadinejad doesn't control the military. He's a useful idiot in a Members Only jacket.
I don't buy into the "crazy man" school of foreign relations. I think that states are rational actors and if you take the time you can figure out what they're up to.
Claiming that some country is "crazy and irrational" is a tactic used by war mongers to shut down debate, and preclude any other avenues of dealing with the problem.
*gasp*
Why, you...you...ANTI-SEMITE!
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Wonder what their game is....
One answer is to increase their visibility in the international community. They certainly have everybody talking about them. Nothin worse than being ignored.
Na na na nanaaaa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzTRpmga7u8
That's a bit of a non sequitur- no?
Maybe you meant to post this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDvg7n0jST8&feature=related
I am thinkin' that whatever exit is contemplated it will come off as a weak belly flop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHj9CLLb-yY
Take note of Vladimir Putin because he is eligible for election in the upcoming Russian election and he going to win and I believe he is going to bring some serious pressure to the current administration. He is going to assert some Russian influence in an attempt to rebuild the image of Russia the only superpower aside from the U.S.
He is a polarizing figure in Russia and knows how to play politics superbly without giving the appearance of publicity stunts. They must be salivating at the inepts in in the Presidents administration, our central banks and little did they know that our current United States would have so much in common with the past Soviet Union with media suppression, state sponsored propaganda, price fixed economy and basically a politboro.
http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/macho-putin-battles-russias-raging-...
We have already been pushed around on the missile shield. They are aware the people of our nation are conflicted and divided and angered over perpetual wars and we have known placed ourselves in a situation where we are unable to respond to Russian provocation and they know this and although I do not believe they seek war they will beat their chests.
Note that the S-300 comments re Abkhazia comes on the heels of a report this am that Russia and Armenia have struck up a LT deal while FT reporting Obama has threatened Turkey to take stand against Iran or else no more drones. This as the US sends delegation to Azeri to stroke up relations (amidst reports the US/Israel are stationing troops in country). Of course there is always the BTC Pipeline to watch after. This all falls on the heels of the US rushing in troops to Kyrgyz under guise of OSCE troops, securing its base and planning another "training facility" to snuggle up on the Russia/China/Afghan nexus
http://www.news.az/articles/20759
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/106192/-swiss-diplomat-to-head-osce-police-advisors-in-kyrgyzstan.html
http://www.rferl.org/content/New_RussianArmenian_Defense_Pact_Finalized/2128266.html
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/35d01e4e-a895-11df-86dd-00144feabdc0.html
thanks for adding some corner pieces to the ME puzzle sir.
because of course, it's never just the story the media feeds promote.
Thanks, SDRII. Outstanding Links.
What's the difference between this warning and all those others?
"serious international concerns" comes right after
"serious domestic concerns" and right before
"very serious international concerns"
Strongly worded letters will be sent forthwith after France comes back from its August vacation
France is another nation controlled by Israel-firsters and Zionist jews, so what's the surprise here?
DUMP ISRAEL!
+100
junk the junkers(33)
Get ready America, you are about to go a few more trillion in debt~
Good thing for the bonuses and war profiteering.
A warning from France to Iran?
A scary strongly worded email?
C'mon. Even Ahmadinejad knows the majority of French men are born with their hands up.
but did you bomb Iran as you promised ?
got to say, that Iran is too big to fail, not like poor little Irak ! BTW, what about Afghanistan, since I heard that the Talibans are becoming prosperous yet ?
Iran will load enriched U into a Russian built nuclear power plant on Friday. Within 8 days the plant will start producingh U238 (used for Nbombs) and Isreal can't bomb the plant w/o releasing radioactive material on the population. Any attack will occur within the next 10-12 days. Tensions will mount.
Every "fact" here is wrong. Do some homework before posting.
And France is a peaceful country with no nuclear weapons...
France meets all of the criteria used to justify the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The wrong country was invaded! Next Obama Administration Epiphany?
Yes, but only after their vacation season. Otherwise, there just aren't enough brown people.
Since Iran is sitting on the 2nd or 3rd largest oil field presently known, it does wonder you why they would feel the need to go nuclear, but I don't see where it is the US or Israel's job to help them with their future energy planning. I guess Israel just figures what is the point of having 600 nuclear weapons if you can't bully your neighbors a little.
Conversely, since Iran has started selling its oil (to China) not denominated in dollars, it is hard to see where the US has a dog in this fight. But Obummer sees it as a perfect opportunity to bully and extort Turkey a little, apparently just to get them used to the terms of our relationship (pretty much the same way a wife abuser lets his beloved know the honeymoon is over).
As Rogerwilco points out, Medvedev could show a little more respect, seeing how much his military machine stands to profit from the coming engagement.
Burning oil is hardly the best way to generate electricity, in fact it's perhaps the least economical way, as demonstrated by the fact that USA generates only 1% of its electricity from petroleum.
If you can sell your oil for $2, and generate equivalent nuclear power for $1, that seems like an obviously savvy plan. I don't see much to wonder about in that regard.
The Russians know what they'r doing by promoting a war in the Middle East they are the only winners, the war does not affect their economy and makes the oil price x3 or more win-win for them
They won't bother helping the insurgents in Afganistan, they want a real war with real conssequences Iran vs. Usrael
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
So why is it OK for France (ditto USA, UK, Japan and other "western" countries ) to have nuclear capabilities / weapons of mass destruction, but not Iran ? Pot calling the kettle black yet again...
Iran did ratify the nuclear non-profiliferation treaty. So if they got nukes they would at least be breaking their promise.
Iran's obligations under the unilaterally-imposed UN Security Council resolutions? Try none. Better focus the world improving attentions on the hundreds of actual nuclear bombs unlawfully maintained by the continually belligerent state of Israel. Or better yet, on the only state ever to have actually used nuclear arms, and that on a primarily civilian targets.
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