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Franz Kafka Would Be Proud: On America's End Of Liberty

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"Americans today are constantly watching their speedometers and trying to conform to every little rule yet there are so many rules that it's impossible for even the most honest and hard-working Americans not to be breaking some type of law on a daily basis. We are slaves in a criminal monetary system, where the Federal Reserve steals from the middle class through inflation and transfers this wealth to their banker friends on Wall Street. We are forced to accept pieces of paper of money while the US constitution defined only gold and silver as legal tender...We are now seeing countless signs on a daily basis that the US is headed for a complete societal collapse as we know it, forever."

The government is finally being exposed for being the most systematic abuser of those primal human weaknesses known to Franz Kafka over a hundred year ago: namely - riddle people with guilt, force them to obey countless rules and regulations, many of which are in stark disagreement with each other, keep them preoccupied with superficial lies, provide them with a marginal education, prevent them from thinking for themselves, allow the constant deflection of individual responsibility, provide a society of countless lawyers where any infarction, no matter how minor, serves as the basis for substantial wealth loss, all the while hiding behind a system of increasingly insolvent welfare, whose sole purpose is to validate the destruction of labor product savings, and the devaluation of money. At the center of this nearly 100 year successful wealth transfer plan is none other than the Federal Reserve: a private institution controlled by wealthiest, whose tentacles reach into the government, into the media, and into every classroom (especially those of brainwashed Ivy League students).

As Gerald Celente says, America has become a society where one is guilty until proven innocent. Is it any wonder that nobody respects the constitution any more? MERS fraud, financial collapse, unprecedented political corruption, and not one person found guilty or put in jail...How can one respect what America has become?

Just over two hundred years after America's "independence", the country has reverted to a despotic state, at whose apex is the New Novus Ordo Seculorm, not that envisioned by the founding fathers, but its mutated, freakish descendant, which managed to survive Andrew Jackson's victory over the Second Bank of the United States, and is now controlling everything through the secret and unauditable decisions made in the halls of the Marriner Eccles building, and a stock market which is driven exclusively by the order flow emanating from Liberty 33.

And even as America prepares for yet another theatrical farce of what Democracy has become in the form of the mid-term elections, whose outcome will have no bearing whatsoever on the future of this country, the far more important decision, that virtually no American has any control over, except for a few bankers and a few religious fundamentalists, is the Fed's decision to decisively do away with the reserve currency, appropriately due on the very same day.

We suggest everyone watch the below clip documenting the end of US liberty, and its transition to a state that is everything that those who created America rebelled against.

 


h/t Robert

 


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Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:00 | Link to Comment gwar5
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Is that the same Kafka who wrote "The Metamorphosis" ?

This could explain the strange back hair.

 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:03 | Link to Comment Real Wealth
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"that virtually no American has any control over, except for a few bankers and a few religious fundamentalists"

What religious fundamentalists would that be?  Oh, I know these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg5An6oOzdc

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 18:41 | Link to Comment WaterWings
Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:04 | Link to Comment gwar5
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Thanks for the video by the way!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:06 | Link to Comment jesse livermoore
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this video was prouduced by national inflation association.  I have seen some blog sites label them a scammers running pump and dump schemes. anyone have any thoughts or comments?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:17 | Link to Comment flacon
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anyone have any thoughts or comments

 

I do. Where is the evidence that the NIA is pumping and dumping, and WHO is making those accusations? Is the NIA guilty until proven innocent?

 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:47 | Link to Comment hack3434
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NIA Stock Suggestion June 15th: PDO 

Their profile for PDO is down but they were claiming some serious revenue and cash flow. The order flow that day was rather odd and the crash was not orderly as sellers were taking whatever they could get. 

 

Unfortunately charlatans will always take a good message and use it for their own advantage but as the saying goes...live by the sword, die by the sword. 

 

 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:26 | Link to Comment merehuman
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shoot the messenger? NIA is educating the public to reality and allowing a few of us who dont watch tv to prepare.

Thank you NIA.  And if you lost or won money in the fedlottomarket, FU, you should not be trading with the enemy.

Life is short, too short to live with our heads held down. Man up folks, restore personal honor in your own lives. As a cumulative effect it would sure help.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:16 | Link to Comment DarkMath
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"NIA is educating the public to reality"

Reality? They didn't mention once in the video why the g'ment might want to shut down milk producers who don't pasteurize. Um, because Pasteurization prevents disease. Some of the diseases that pasteurization can prevent are diphtheria, salmonellosis, strep throat, scarlet fever, listeriosis, brucellosis and typhoid fever. I'm glad the government has the Patriot Act becase they can protect me from wackos like the NIA.

NIA is an elaborate Pump and Dump scheme. I gullibly signed up a this past spring and then got inundated with penny stocks ideas. Hhhmmm, I cancelled my account. A fool and his money are soon parted.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:34 | Link to Comment RECISION
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I'm glad the government has the Patriot Act becase they can protect me from wackos like the NIA.

And why do you need a Government Patriot Act to protect you from wackos like the NIA?

Are you glad you have the Gubernment protecting you from Banksters too?


Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:16 | Link to Comment DarkMath
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"Are you glad you have the Gubernment protecting you from Banksters too?"

Good point. My problem is with everybody. Nobody gets it, NIA, The Tea Party, our Government. From my vantage point both sides of the aisle are way off target.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:56 | Link to Comment masterinchancery
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A little less protection, PLEASE. Whose business is it what kind of milk I buy if you have informed me of the risks--greater fear of disease on one side, significant loss of nutrition on the other?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 22:13 | Link to Comment DarkMath
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"significant loss of nutrition on the other?"

Really, pasteurizing milk causes a significant loss of nutrition? I doubt that. The risk of some organic farmer getting a lot of people sick is what the g'ment is trying to avoid. American's aren't lacking in nutrition.

The big picture here is that the Tea Party has been hijacked by wack jobs. If it's not Karl Rove and the AstroTurf movement, it's pump and dumpers like NIA. Of course there's the God, Guns and Gays crowd waiting in the wings.

America is so fucked that even the groups that are supposed to save it are fucked in the head. That's how fucked we are. It's all over except for the cryin'.

 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 22:16 | Link to Comment DarkMath
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If Sarah Palin becomes the next president I'm moving to Australia.

 

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Meatier Shower
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Good luck with that.

Unlike the USA, Australia has strict standards on who they allow to immigrate - and they actually enforce them.

Also, the IRS will be looking to collect their cut of your assets as you look to expatriate them.

Don't forget the KY jelly............

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:44 | Link to Comment BigJim
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There wouldn't be much point. Australia is run by lunatics as well.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 22:30 | Link to Comment Saxxon
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Don't look for someone 'bigger' than you to get it. You are on your own.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Hulk
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DM, when you pasture raise these animals, as many of the raw milk producers do, the diseases you mention just aren't an issue. Only when the animals are raised in CAFO's, kept in their own filth, are these diseases an issue. A pasture or forest fed animal is an entirely different beast...

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 18:44 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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+1

FDA and their boogeymen. It's just amazing humans have made it this far along without tech. 

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 07:27 | Link to Comment Seer
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Thanks for the comment, Hulk.  People foget to peel back the layers.  Superficial observations produce superficial solutions.  Or, as Eric Sevareid said “The chief cause of problems is solutions.”  E-coli outbreaks are the consequence of "govt protection" of big business: once power is concentrated it turns around and wipes away restrictions on it (first kills competition/diversity, then tosses off regulation); always amazes me how many people just cannot get this!

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 11:36 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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Well said. Most of the modern diseases are traced back to our modern "domestication." Mad Cow being only one of the latest 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Server crash...503 error..

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 19:00 | Link to Comment hack3434
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 shoot the messenger?

Absolutely.

Also if you need a documentary flashing NIAs site every other minute to "enlighten" you, well...never mind. 

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 04:21 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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NIA is educating the public to reality and allowing a few of us who dont watch tv to prepare.

 

 

Their piece on here is loaded up on propaganda. Inflation stealing from the (US) middle class. Propaganda marked.

Inflation touches every class. The least touched is the higher class and the more touched is the lowest class.

The USD is world reserve currency. They are more poors outside the US than within the US. The US is stealing from the rest of the world through the USD (to be transferred to anyone in the US, especially middle class)

That is closer to reality than their NIA scam.

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 07:29 | Link to Comment Seer
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"The US is stealing from the rest of the world through the USD"  Yup!  Spreading that "American Dream!"

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 22:15 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Celente tells me they are legit. -FWIW

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:09 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:20 | Link to Comment NOTW777
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"We are slaves in a criminal monetary system, where the Federal Reserve steals from the middle class through inflation and transfers this wealth to their banker friends on Wall Street."

IMO its not that subtle.  The stealing and lies are blatant from almost all our so-called leaders.  Its not just inflation - its lying about everything and the MSM is the main facilitator

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:59 | Link to Comment unununium
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Agreed.  The compromised status of the main stream media is problem #1.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:21 | Link to Comment THE DORK OF CORK
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Chicken nuggets Bitches !!!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:32 | Link to Comment Eureka Springs
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Monopoly morsels. 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 23:10 | Link to Comment Big Red
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Man, I can no longer stand factory food. Take KFC, without the spices in the skin, where's the taste in the meat? And if you buy a turkey for Thanksgiving, how can anyone stand that terrible smell from the oven, if it's a factory bird?

Hell, just driving by CAFO's is bad enough. But like good old Earl Butz (former Sec of Ag long ago) told the farming community back in the day, "Get big or get out". I want to see all subsidies die out over a 2 year period.

(At least, today, in my neck of the country, you can find the small guy doing good meat and vegetables. )

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:45 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Yes... if you ever smell KFC chicken, it literally smells like shit.

God alone knows what they feed those poor creatures with.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Id like to suggest that Zero Hedge put together a "contest" on who can write the best "Manifesto", and that that Manifesto be kept permanently available by a front page link. At some point, somebody with some nuts, or even a crackpot who wanders onto the site can use it for whatever they have in mind:) Remeber that idiot who flew his cessna into the IRS building in Austin. What a wasted chance! He could've done so much better, especially considering he was suicidal anyway. Ah...missed chances to fire the masses.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Dapper Dan
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I assure you he was no idiot.  But his violent act was of no help to the cause.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:04 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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 Only a moron would want to exact revenge on the IRS or the federal government. Get out there and ROCK THE VOTE!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:53 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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The man had balls the size of grapefruits to do such a thing but committing suicide like that does not help anyone especially him or his family. Will there ever be American suicide bombers? I don't know. Maybe.  This sort of discussion scares the pants off of Homeland Insecurity.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:11 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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American suicide bombers!? Oh shit! Just like them crazy A-rabs! Wish GW Bush would've sent them all to hell for what they did to us on 9-11. GOD DAMN THEM TO HELL!

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 08:32 | Link to Comment The Rock
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Inside job, buddy.

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:02 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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What!? No fucking way! You pinko! Love it or leave it bitch!

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 11:40 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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what does communism have to do with architecture?

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:06 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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I'm joking about everything you fuckin dolts! Jeesh, I didn't picture the folks here to be so thick!

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:11 | Link to Comment oddjob
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Consider the Cessna man the thin edge of the wedge.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:34 | Link to Comment collegepunk
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+1 to the manifesto

-1 for violence

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Me too! Just kidding! Just say NO! to violence.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:09 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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RPG's... Just Do It!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:36 | Link to Comment Boba Fiat
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Wolverines!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 19:45 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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After the hard heads burn stuff and the shit settles down I would happily throw my hat into the ring for King... people seem to think that shit sucks now, what do people think the law of the jungle is going to be? wait thats to extreme, right? okie dokie... all these eldery retired fucking chatroom hero's... professional writters and / or other's... Buy gold! better buy fucking bullets!! cause King James (thats me) may just tax you later... and I dont give a fuck about your feelings... so everyone should start praying that things stay as is...

Jungle Love Bitches! http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1nua7_the-time-jungle-love-morris-day_music

I am all for a complete and total shut down of civilization... and I am sure that I am not the only one who wants to be King... Oops! Maybe area Kings? But I will make one prediction... if, IF! shit hits the fan... the South will rise again, Bitches! now score that for long term risk!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 23:07 | Link to Comment UncleFester
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Ah hell JW.  You know Fla broke off of NJ and anchored down south years ago.  That ain't the real south!

UF

 

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 08:49 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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My family sold Flagler land to build his rail road in Florida... I am 6th Generation FL... Thusly there are the Snow Birds, The Locals and then the weirdo's like me and Jimmy Buffet who wear flip flops every where... even to Gator hunt in. Go Canes!

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 22:23 | Link to Comment UncleFester
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Okay...you pass.

Always wanted to gator hunt as I'm originally from Ga.  3/20 sucks.

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 07:44 | Link to Comment Seer
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Sustainability WILL come.  Hard transitions do not come painlessly.  And, that pain isn't because of what is coming, it's because of what went- the cost of pushing unsustainable practices.  The future, in all shapes, will not be static, as such, I do not think that one can cast any particular image on all of it, as doing so will only predisposes prejudices, and some of those prejudices might premturely kill viable/desireable changes...

Tue, 11/02/2010 - 14:16 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Well put!

But.... and there always is a butt... isn’t there? (typo on purpose)

The short term views of the executives who flood the coffers of the whores within the beltway... have caused this as much as anything else and if not more so...

They will do anything to protect their way of lies / life.

When the common man becomes uncomfortable enough change will come, until then no real change will come.

The fight will not be a pin point strike... it will be our ignorant fellow country men and women getting gunned down in the streets by the Armed services which have been practicing urban war fare for a good lil while now.

If anyone thinks that… hungry / broke / homeless… Typically hard working Americans will not be displaced enough by what is surely to come... well, good for you and bless your heart! Stay positive!

 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 20:32 | Link to Comment VodkaInKrakow
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Call of Cthulhu with Ben Bernanke as Financial-Cthulhu or Twilight:2000 1st Edition - we can change the setting to a world financial disaster!

 

Role-Playing Games, got to love them.  I just hope that the inflation from Bennie does not force a rise in the price of my 3 WoW accounts.  Got World of Warcraft?

 

I want an 85th level Mage-Financier!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:37 | Link to Comment merehuman
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There are peaceful things that can be done. There are many ways to rebel should anyone feel the urge. My ways was to not participate in the use of the dollar. I would rather starve. My little garden and other preparations will allow me to be free of society. Internet/cable is my last and only connection. And that will go too very soon.No use squeezing me for another penny, aint got and dont want it. Love and nature in freedom till i die and i welcome the other side with open arms and a clean breast.   

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:41 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Kudos to you. Best of luck pengyou.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 19:47 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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by merehuman
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There are peaceful things that can be done. There are many ways to rebel should anyone feel the urge. My ways was to not participate in the use of the dollar. I would rather starve. My little garden and other preparations will allow me to be free of society. Internet/cable is my last and only connection. And that will go too very soon.No use squeezing me for another penny, aint got and dont want it. Love and nature in freedom till i die and i welcome the other side with open arms and a clean breast. 

 

merehuman,

Let me be clear... you shallow end of the pool, sheepeople... will be the first ones I drive into the ocean to cleanse my Country.

Peace, Love and Chicken Grease!

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 04:20 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Good one! If one were so inclined to make trouble in our beloved republic the following few words could really stir up quite a honets nest I believe, and be a real game changer:

1. Ducati

2. 5 pipe b***s

3. Mac ten

4. Wall Street

5. Manifesto (better than the Unabombers though)

:)

Just Kidding!!!!!

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 08:56 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Wall Street broadly is not the problem... it is the leadership.

 

Souless Corporation(s); A Corporation in which no one person owns a controling interest thru restricted shares: A Corporation with no moral compass: A Corporation whose Executives run the Company on a 12 month (or Quarterly) bonus horizon:

 

The souless corps, the leadership there... the volume of those companies... the amount of money they alone pump into Washington DC... thusly corputing the bought and paid for whores... all for short term goals... are killing us all, as a Country.

 

As for someone Bombing Congress and the Senate... while Wall Street leaders are there Bribing / Lobbying them... so fucking be it. I am not going to do it, but I am not going to be mad at whoever does... I will not convict them if I am on the Jury. I promise you that.

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:07 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Wall Street broadly is not the problem... it is the leadership.

Agreed, but who fucking cares? It would sure wake some people up I betcha.

But I would never condone violence! No fucking way! Civilised people talk, only losers and weak as bitches resort to violence! Thats what my buddy ISEEIT says, and as we all know, the O.G. is no bullshit! ;)

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:09 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Hey Homeland Security- Just kidding!! I love everything you, and the banks, congress, Mr. Bernanke, and Mr. Obama are doing for me:) Thanks for everything! Hopefully I will learn to love eating dirt, and being homeless. Kinda like camping! Well gotta get to bed soon. Gotta get out there and ROCK THE VOTE for all our great patriots! Thnx again!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Boba Fiat
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Fuck them.  I've got a big pot of tar boiling.  Who's got the feathers?

Bernanke would shit his smug Semitic self if he were being chased half-naked around the ruins of Rockefeller Center with former mechanics and store clerks chasing him with bamboo spears. 

Never fucking surrender to these pussy boys.  Don't give them an inch.  They slipped in through Ellis Island but none of them were around when this great country was forged.  I'm sick of bowing to them.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:52 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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HAHA! gOOD ONE! Of course yer kidding. Them Jews were put on earth to be our masters. They are God's chosen people after all. Hey Homeland Security- I'm gettin ready to sign up to become a Christian Zionist, of course after I get out and ROCK THE VOTE!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:39 | Link to Comment merehuman
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Tsukato, i enjoy your post. You were meant to be a comedian!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:43 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Thanks pengyou ;)

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:47 | Link to Comment Boba Fiat
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Them Jews were put on earth to be our masters.

 

Nah....haven't you heard?  There's a new covenant.  Jews rejected the Christ; all they got now is their clanishness and good ol' boy networks.  The temple was destroyed by Roman legionnaires, as Jesus foretold, in AD 70.  Don't listen to hokey televangelist who fall under their "dispensationalist" spell.  Read the good book.  Look at America when we first started: we were free and Christian and prosperous.  And look at us now.

 

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones to death those who have been sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you people were unwilling!"  Jesus; Luke 13: 34.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:53 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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So, if Jesus comes back down to open a can of whup ass on the Jews, will he be doing it for the americans or the persians?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:24 | Link to Comment Boba Fiat
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Jesus doesn't care about nation-states or ethnic groups.  Only individuals.  I know where I stand.  Where do you think Bernanke, Rubin, Greenspan, Dimon, Blankfein, etc. stand?  Do you think they "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", or "love thy neighbor as thyself"?  Do you think they are sheep or goats?

 

When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: and before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world....Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels....and these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Matthew 25: 31-46

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 01:00 | Link to Comment Boxed Merlot
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Pearls before swine.

 

Not that I don't like bacon, I love it.

 

Do you beleive God?  If not, then you by definition are saying God is a liar.

 

Simple question, if God were to lie, what would He possibly have to gain?

 

(It's not not like He needs anything from a creature He made and controls anyway, is it?

 

That's why if you don't beleive God, you by definition make Him to be a liar.  

 

(That's not a camp I want to be counted in, imho.)

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 01:26 | Link to Comment Boxed Merlot
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Wouldn't it be great to be God?  Who cares if any human beleives you?  (Of course as a 

God of Love you have the faith and hope they will), but go ahead, Speak the Truth.  You have nothing to lose and at the same time, remain true to your being, - omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.

This too will pass.

 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 20:40 | Link to Comment VodkaInKrakow
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hahahahaha!

Neo-Con-Nazi: I hate Jews - Christianity Rulez, Bitchez!

Me: Why is there Christianity?

Neo-Con-Nazi: Jesus died on the cross, Bitchez!

Me: How did Jesus die on the cross?

Neo-Con-Nazi: The Jews stuck him up there, Bitchez! He died for our sins so we could get some God luvin' on, Bitchez!

Me: What would have happened if they did not stick him up there?

(Audible 'Bink!' sound. Dim light goes on - blank stare ensues from Neo-Con-Nazi)

Me: We would all be Jews.  Thank da' Lord he let Jews kill him. After all, he knew it was gonna happen. Suicide! Then again, I would prefer Cthulhu.

Neo-Con-Nazi: Who's Cthulhu!

Me: Read H.P. Lovecraft and you will come to know and worship Cthulhu! Cthulhu even has an 'Elect Cthulhu for Prez' sticker.

Neo-Con-Nazi: I've been living a lie?

Me: Correct, Neo-Con-Nazi.  Why worship a lesser evil when you can have the best! Cthulhu!

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 08:12 | Link to Comment Seer
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"Thank da' Lord he let Jews kill him. After all, he knew it was gonna happen. Suicide!"

This always puzzled me.  If Jesus is "Lord," then doesn't that say that God killed himself?  And, doesn't the main documentation for all of this belief, the bible, say that suicide is a sin?  Seems there's a bit of conflict here.  Just saying...

Further, Jesus was born via a virgin birth, something that's not uncommon in other religions: Christianity makes it sound like they had the market cornered on the only virgin birth.

Christianity is no more than a new version of mass control (means by which the few rule over the many).  Are there viable messages?  Yes, but they should not be used by people to control people (else you get what we have- a small group of people choosing who should live and who should die).

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 22:33 | Link to Comment Pope Clement
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Wtf doesn't anyone read anymore? There has been a revolution in understanding the events and history of the First Century mainly due to finding and translation of the Dead Sea Scrolls and other documents of that era. A good place to begin is  with the works of Prof. Robert Eisenman of USC and the foremost Biblical scholar of our time. Eisenman is responsible for wresting those scrolls from the French Jesuits who sat on them for a half century to keep the information from going public. Some of the things you can learn from this great scholar: What has come down to us is 'Paulianity' not Christianity - Paul/Saul was a foe of James the brother of Jesus and who was the leader of the Jerusalem Assembly (the first christian congregation?) and it was of James that Jesus said 'Heaven and Earth were created for James'. I won't spoil the ending for you about whose religious vision won this battle and who was thrown from the top of the Temple and practically written out of the Bible. When the real story is widely known Jesus will be recognized as a hero and great patriot of the Jewish nation and Saul will also get his due as a quisling Roman agent and murderous prick that he surely was. Happy reading !

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 09:20 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Robert Eisenman is an American Biblical scholar, writer, historian, archaeologist, and "road" poet who led the campaign to free up access to the Dead Sea Scrolls in the 1980s and 90s, and, as a result of this campaign, is widely known for a unique theory that combines "Essenes" with Palestinian Messianism (or what some might refer to as "Palestinian Christianity") - a theory opposed to establishment or "consensus" scholarship. He is also well known for his work in the field of Christian Origins and, in a general way, introducing the public to the character known as "James the brother of Jesus." Before this, Eisenman spent five years "on the road," as it were, in the USA, Europe, and the Middle East as far as India, encapsulating all these things in his poetic travel Diario (1959-62), published in 2007 by North Atlantic Books, Berkeley, California and called The New Jerusalem, in which he describes the San Francisco "Beat" scene in 1958-59, Paris when still a "Moveable Feast," working on kibbutzim in Israel, the Peace Corps, and several voyages on the overland route to India. Eisenman received his B.A. from Cornell University in 1958, an M.A. from New York University in 1966, and a Ph.D. from Columbia University in 1971.[1]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Eisenman

 

Articles

Sicarii Essenes, "Those of the Circumcision", and Qumran, The Journal of Higher Criticism, vol. 12, no. 1, Spring 2006.

MMT as Jamesian Letter to "The Great King of the Peoples Beyond the Euphrates", The Journal of Higher Criticism vol. 11, no.1, Spring 2005.

Northern Syria as an Area for Many Language References at Qumran, paper presented at the International Meeting of the Society of Biblical Literature, Denver, 2005.

An Esoteric Relation between Qumran's "New Covenant in the Land of Damascus" and the New Testament's "Cup of the New Covenant in (His) Blood"? Revue de Qumran, vol. 21, no. 83, March 2004.

Redating the Radiocarbon Dating of the Dead Sea Scrolls, Dead Sea Discoveries, 11,2 (2004).

The James Ossuary: Is It Authentic? Folia Orientalia, vol. 38, 2002.

"Re-erecting the Fallen Tent of David" in a Land "North" of Damascus at Qumran and in Acts' "Jerusalem Council". Paper presented at SBL, Rome 2001.

The 1988-92 California State University Dead Sea Walking Cave Survey and Radar Groundscan of the Qumran Cliffs, The Qumran Chronicle, vol. 9, no. 2, December 2000.

A Ground-Penetrating Radar Testing the Claim for Earthquake Damage of the Second Temple Ruins at Khirbet Qumran, Qumran Chronicle, December 2000. With Michael Baigent.

* The Final Proof that James and the Righteous Teacher are the Same. Paper presented at the Society of Biblical Literature in 1994.

The Theory of Judeo-Christian Origins: The Last Column of the Damascus Document, in Methods of Investigation of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Khirbet Qumran Site: Present Realities and Future Prospects, ed. by Wise, M. O., Golb, N., Collins, J., and Pardee, D., Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, v. 722, 1994.

The 1990 Survey of Qumran Caves, The Qumran Chronicle, vol. 2, no.1, December 1992.

The Sociology of MMT and the Conversions of King Agbarus and Queen Helen of Adiabene. Paper presented at SBL conference, 1992.

* Joining/Joiners, 'Arizei-Go'im, and the Simple of Ephraim Relating to a Cadre of Gentile God-Fearers at Qumran. Paper presented at the Society of Biblical Literature in 1991.

A Response to Schiffman on MMT, The Qumran Chronicle 1990/91, no. 2/3.

* Eschatological "Rain" Imagery in the War Scroll from Qumran and in the Letter of James, Journal of Near Eastern Studies, vol. 49 no. 2 1990.

* Interpreting 'Abeit Galuto in the Habakkuk Pesher: Playing on and Transmuting Words, Folia Orientalia, vol. 26, 1989. Presented at Groningen Conference in Holland in 1989.

* Interpreting some Esotericisms: The King of the Peoples, the Princes of Judah and Gehazi in the Damascus Document. Paper given to the Society of Biblical Literature in 1989.

The Historical Provenance of the "Three Nets of Belial" Allusion in the Zadokite Document and Balla'/Bela' in the Temple Scroll, Folia Orientalia, volume 25, 1988. (First given as an NEH Fellow at the Albright Institute for Archaeological Research in Jerusalem in a Joint Session with the Ecole Biblique in November, 1985.)

* The Jerusalem Community of James the Just and the Community at Qumran. Paper given at Mogilany Conference in Poland, 1987.

* Paul as Herodian. Paper given at Society of Biblical Literature conference in 1984; published in the Journal of Higher Criticism, Vol. 3, Spring 1996, pp. 110-122.

The Young Turk Legislation, 1913-17 and its Application in Palestine/Israel, in Palestine in the Late Ottoman Period, ed. by D. Kushner, E.J. Brill Leiden, 1978.

 

* Reprinted in The Dead Sea Scrolls and the First Christians. Harper Collins, 1996.

 

http://roberteisenman.com/

About Robert H. Eisenman

Robert Eisenman is the author of The New Testament Code: The Cup of the Lord, the Damascus Covenant, and the Blood of Christ (2006), James the Brother of Jesus: The Key to Unlocking the Secrets of Early Christianity and the Dead Sea Scrolls (1998), The Dead Sea Scrolls and the First Christians (1996), Islamic Law in Palestine and Israel: A History of the Survival of Tanzimat and Shari'ah (1978), and co-editor of The Facsimile Edition of the Dead Sea Scrolls (1989) and The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered (1992).

He is Professor of Middle East Religions and Archaeology and Islamic Law and the Director of the Institute for the Study of Judeo-Christian Origins at California State University Long Beach and Visiting Senior Member of Linacre College, Oxford. He holds a B.A. from Cornell University in Philosophy and Engineering Physics (1958), an M.A. from New York University in Near Eastern Studies (1966), and a Ph.D from Columbia University in Middle East Languages and Cultures and Islamic Law (1971). He was a Senior Fellow at the Oxford Centre for Postgraduate Hebrew Studies and an American Endowment for the Humanities Fellow-in-Residence at the Albright Institute of Archaeological Research in Jerusalem, where the Dead Sea Scrolls were first examined.

In 1991-92, he was the Consultant to the Huntington Library in San Marino, California on its decision to open its archives and allow free access for all scholars to the previously unpublished Scrolls. In 2002, he was the first to publicly announce that the so-called 'James Ossuary', which so suddenly and 'miraculously' appeared, was fraudulent; and he did this on the very same day it was made public on the basis of the actual inscription itself and what it said without any 'scientific' or 'pseudo-scientific' aids.

Now on YouTube:

Robert Eisenman's Dead Sea Scrolls lectures and several other courses now on YouTube - Eisenman Lecture
Interviews at the site of Qumran in Israel - Eisenman on the rocks
An assortment of Eisenman's talks and appearances to a variety of groups at Eisenman Talks
New: Eisenmanity: Robert Eisenman before non-Christian groups, etc.

Opinion

Redemonizing Judas: Gospel Fiction or Gospel Truth? The Huffington Post, September 13, 2009.

Gospel Fiction and the Redemonization of Judas, The Huffington Post, December 19, 2007.

The Jesus Tomb: Primeval Stupidity, The Huffington Post, March 8, 2007.

Rehabilitating Judas Iscariot, The Huffington Post, January 23, 2006.

A Discovery That's Just Too Perfect, Los Angeles Times, October 29, 2002.

The Dismissal of Strugnell as Editor of the Scrolls and the Behaviors of the IAA, Unpublished, 1992.

The Desecration of the Scrolls, Midstream Magazine, Dec. 1991.

The Meaning of 'Dead Lands', Manchester Guardian, March 22, 1981.

How the West Bank Views Terrorism, Midstream, 1973.

Interviews

Broadcasting Interview by Rachel Kohn on her program "Spiritual Things" (ca. 2005): "Eisenman on the Scrolls"

Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio program "Encounter" (transcript), 26 July 1998, on James, the Brother of Jesus.

The Riddle of the Scrolls, Vanity Fair, Nov. 1992.

Eisenman Teaches "Objective Religion," The University Bulletin, ca. 1975.

 

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 22:10 | Link to Comment Pope Clement
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Nice alley-oop followup JW...

Tue, 11/02/2010 - 14:21 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Hey! you post good shit! I am going to be in support of it! no magic... people here that know me.. know I dont hold back, I am not always right but I will speak up on something that is important and help if I can... making the information easy for people ensures that maybe someone gets reached... and to be clear I am a Catholic... rut ro? duhhhhhh! lol but the truth is the truth... Judis? was bad or good? Hmmmm?!

Great Post and happy to have learned and had the ability to learn something becuase of you... I owe you the Thank You, not the other way around.

 

My best to you and yours Pope Clement, JW

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 19:01 | Link to Comment ISEEIT
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Hey Joe, If Janet learns that you are doing this she will be pissed. You've been listening to Barack, Valerie, and Andy way to much. I get it that this gig is stressful but for America's sake, keep some perspective dude!

The game is almost over!! Just hang in there buddy.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 20:22 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Boba Fiat,

They junk you because they dont like the law of the Jungle version of the story that they are praying for... fucking evangelical, "Hell Fire!" types... all mouth no gun. They want the FED out and then we all will hold hands and sing Kumbya ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo9AH4vG2wA ).... I keep telling these chatroom heros they better fucking buy bullets, gold aint gonna save them!

Jungle Love Bitches! http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1nua7_the-time-jungle-love-morris-day_music

and everyone... who wants... in this chatroom can tell me how they never, ever would call me King... they would die first... right? or someone like minded? JUNGLE! LAW!! you shallow end of the pool fucks.

Keep praying for the end, but you better becareful of what you wish for... cause you just might get it! That of course was not directed at you Boba!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 20:49 | Link to Comment VodkaInKrakow
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I like this.  Then again, you're a 700+ meter target waiting to happen, for me.  Of course, I would never do it - unnecessary violence is not productive unless your into that sort of anger management.  And why be King?  Too many people trying to take your head away from you.  Nah, better to be the power behind the throne.  Much better to be a true American and help each other out while cleaning out the cesspool that has become Global Finance, Central Banking, and most capitol cities in The West.

Then again, the Reich Wing with The Reich Stuff are the perfect propaganda targets as they are easily ruled through fear. Which is why the Reich-stars worship in a feudalistic religion with a God that has a love-hate-damn-you-to-hellfire relationship with his peons full of torture, murder, incest, lies, blackmail, etc.  The Bible is very, very violent and pornographic.  Kind of like Dick Cheney masturbating to torture-porn (we know what REALLY happened to those torture vids from The CIA).

 

Good luck.  Remember, in The Jungle, there is always a meaner, nastier, more cunning and ruthless badass waiting out there.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:03 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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To be clear I am with you... forgive my theatre... just tyring to remind these people that the change that they spend 80 hours a week screaming about may not go the way of Peace Love and Chicken Grease...

Since your new and seem friendly...

I offer you my plan for riots in the streets... http://www.spanishcay.com/recreation.htm

To be clear... if things ever got that bad... which I really hope will not be the case... I would happily come back after the dust settled to re-build.

 

As for the 700m... well I guess all those deer hunter movies are getting to you... and unless you are some where sunny and warm... and within 50 miles of the Bahama's? I doubt you could hit me... from 600 miles away, regradless of how much time you spend packing your own loads. Sorry, but do enjoy living in the snow.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:18 | Link to Comment VodkaInKrakow
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Actually, I like to travel a lot. Deerhunter was a good movie. Haven't seen in it a few decades. How's the weather in Bahamas? I was thinking Brazil this winter :) or opening a bar in an Asian country. Just another thing to check off of my life's list of things to do.

As for that riot? I'm not much into fishing.  Drinking, as the screen name suggests... even the Russians. Poles, and Ukrainians like to pay for my night. They're friendly when you can keep up with them and the girls are there to keep you warm.  Being an American is still good.  Just don't be one of those asshole Americans or an asshole American tourist and you are all good.

Has for that 700+ meters, yes I can :) . Bad habits. And they The Brits have some nice shooting ranges. Just got to know the right people for legal shooting.

If things ever got that bad in The States, why, I remember the oath I took - "...that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic..."  Just hoping a whole lot of newly poor people can get together and sort things out before tearing apart America.

Little tip for all those Americans looking to flee America. It's okay to be a tourist. Especially, dumb American tourists who are friendly and nice. Foreign people will bend over backward to help you. Even better when you can understand what they are saying (things like "oooh... dumb American tourist, let's help him!"). Just nod your head and think to yourself, "Thank you for doing my bidding."

Nice to meet you, Chief. Enjoy the Bahamas. Brazil?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 23:22 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Brazil... up north on the coast of Brazil they speakl Portuguese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Portuguese)... if you want a nice place down south, Columbia... you cant go wrong. Russia is a great place did St. Pete a lil over a year ago... talking about a nice old bath house in moscow that was on the chopping block... we fund a few small(ish) boats in Lauderdale... that are Russian owned Gambling Cruisers... after 2 decades, never a missed payment and never a complaint... and they keep bringing me new deals... luv them guys.

as for brit long range stuff... cold weather is great... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.338_Lapua_Magnum old round though... given some of the stuff that is around... I come from a family of up close types. 1 recondo.. which they dont even make any more... I do hear good things about the 101st though. The rest of the Fam are all marines. I couldnt hit the side of the barn with my bullpup EO red dot on full auto, I would have to go the 40mm route. So I guess you win from 700m's away.

As for Travel... my last trip was Mexico... I luv it down there... but its a lot like Russia for the larger Cities... either be working security and on a pass... or a principle with a pass... but lone wolfing now a days is not something I would recomend to newbies. 

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 03:16 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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+10!!!! Penguins cant fight. DUH!!!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:05 | Link to Comment Milestones
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hey! Nice attitude adjustment--only two turds-Good show!    Milestones

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 20:42 | Link to Comment kiwidor
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Manifesto -> Excellent Idea.  I'm working on one right now.

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 03:17 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Mon, 11/01/2010 - 04:36 | Link to Comment Incubus
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The problem is that our so-called leaders of the world have no clue what to do with the enormous number of people that live today. So, we're all on the hamster wheel, running and running--with no objective other than to run.

Think about how productive & great civilization could become if people with a real humanitarian vision were ever allowed to pry 'power' from these psychopathic oligarchs. 

 

Whether you want to believe it, or not--we're in a dark ages, of sorts.  Technology used for no good, all advancement for consumerist tail-chasing, or "ball rubbing" as Carlin put it.  Mind-Numbing shit on TV, in all media. This is what we waste our lives for?  Civilization's ambitions are reduced to the development and display of entertainment?  We all watch--drooling, in amazement--at the asses and the pretty faces, the song and dance.  It's all nonsense, a big fucking circus.  What a way to squander civilization's potential. There's no freedom in any of this; this is mindrape, lobotomy--and you're left to exist in a social farm as a mental invalid. 

 

You have billions of people who want to make something better out of themselves, and you lead them in fucking circles with religious bullshit, political bullshit, social bullshit.  None of it ever makes them any better.  So sick of it.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:29 | Link to Comment SparkySC
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Anyone believe Vigilantism is right around the corner?

 

 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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So why not facilitate it?- Just kidding! HAHAHA! You'd have to be crazy to think this manifesto stuff is a good idea! Not for me! I'm gonna continue sucking banker cock til they take everything and bury me!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:58 | Link to Comment ISEEIT
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The problem is A.) You are likely a paid plant.

                     B.) Not only is random violence morally abhorrent, but would also stain and make a target of legitimate dissent.

                     C.) I don't doubt at all that you know this already.

Far more impact were we all to liquidate our bank accounts and stop purchasing anything beyond staples and Gold/Silver.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Hey now, dont get me wrong. Only LOSERS like violence! Of course its abhorrent! I dont even play violent video games. And I don't know what planet you're from, but "liquidate our bank accounts"? Why on earth would I ever want to do such a silly and unpatriotic thing? You're a real trouble maker I'm afraid.

ROCK THE VOTE ALL YOU ROCKERS!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:55 | Link to Comment ISEEIT
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Peace Nigga. I won't play your dumbass game. I smell the hook and therefore I am.

Love it or leave it.

Enjoy yourself! Masturbation is great eh?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:06 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Hey Brutha, I'm gettin jiggy wid it juz like yu...shit homey. Me and u otta grab some 40 ouncers and kick it, after we rock the vote, YO!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:24 | Link to Comment Bob
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WTF?  A member for only a week who just made her first post last night, saying in convincingly tentative language that she is in China, now bustin rhymes and pushin revolution?

You're way too likely nothing but trouble. 

Give the boyz in the next cube my best. 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Yo Bob,

Chill Nigga. I'm just shutin the shit with my posse. Malcolm X on yer azz bitch. Peace out yo!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:46 | Link to Comment Bob
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Find somewhere else to shit, asshole. 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:50 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Ouch! You're a real bad boy! Keep on postin Champ ;)

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:10 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Good screen name for you. Thanks.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:06 | Link to Comment ISEEIT
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I just can't help it. If you represent the best they can do then peace is far more acceptable. I'll hedge for eventual stability. Always consider forensics and 'due dilligence' is what you construct it to be, it's personal.

I taste your irony. It's cute but the call for violence is sick BITCH. I'm a Husband, a Father, and a Grandfather. Random disgruntled idiot acts of cowardice ARE NOT THE SOLUTION.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:11 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Yo Brutha,

You gots me all wrong! I agree with you. No need to grow some balls, its better to kick it and throw back some 40 ouncers. Violence is just for cowards! (huh?!) Peace out! Fucking idiot.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:31 | Link to Comment ISEEIT
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Get violent then poseur. Get all 'can't we all just get along' on us.

Might get me to watch TV again for a few minutes?

Maybe?

You are pretty funny though :>

The racial crap is particularly pertinent and I don't like that either. Did you get in my head?

Sorta.

Like a video game, and I stopped playing them sorta like I stopped doing coke.

Sorta.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:47 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Crazy thing about you, is that its really difficult to understand what you are trying to say.

Cheers ;)

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:00 | Link to Comment ISEEIT
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That's just cause we all be needin' to be sharin' a 40 before we be startin' to be speakin'?

You be thinkin'?

Yo?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:14 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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HA! True nuff.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:48 | Link to Comment merehuman
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Practical possible effects of rebellion could be a waiter spilling the hot food accidentally on Bernankis lap.

Or youngsters less afraid of consequences assaulting the rich. In our simple minds the "rich " are the enemy. We will be checking hands for callouses!

We can shut down cities and highways if we so choose, via flash mob in less than 30 minutes. If we chose to....what channel is americam idol on?

Yeah!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:21 | Link to Comment VodkaInKrakow
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Will just label you a mindless troll.  Thx, gansta! I own all your 40-oz. LOL.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:01 | Link to Comment VodkaInKrakow
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Well, violence is abhorrent.  Unfortunately, we live in a violent world.  LOSERS like violence? Nah. LOSERS don't fight. Even if faced with a very real threat to their existence.  They roll over and play dead before being given the opportunity.

Winners, realize, that it takes a little bit of sacrifice and violence to reboot the system. Or defend themselves. Violence, in today's world, is the ultimate problem solver. When used appropriately. From Granny playing lead golf with a rapist and getting 14 holes in one on the 'green' with her 9mm-iron to Hitler and The Nazi regime getting their come-uppance at the hands of The Red Army and Patton. Violence solves problems. The proper application of force, of which we have not seen for decades on a national level, solves problems.

Diplomacy is preferred.  However, the majority of humanity is closer to a bunch of pack animals than a thinking human being. Witness the Reichwing Neo-Cons.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:07 | Link to Comment kiwidor
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Random violence is a legitimate technique in social systems which insulate the perpetrators of violence from the consequences of their acts.   The fact is, if you identified the most powerful perpetrators, their execution would appear to the uninformed as 'random'. 

I'm tired of peaceniks who think that using corrupt systems to redress economic and psychological violence, among other things, will actually get them or us anywhere.  it won't.  You basically stand in the way of any useful revolution.

there is a fundamental natural law;  you are entitled to defend yourself with any force necessary.  yes, ANY force necessary.

Watch "battle at kruger" and see natural law in action.

You have this right, but you refuse to understand that violence must be used against violence in order to stop it.   Superior violence is necessary to deter an attacker.  Since your adversaries have access to far more forms of violence than you, it doesn't matter whether you hack at the root, saw off the branches, drill a hole in the tree and insert some copper sulphate, or blow the thing up with a stick of geli.  Your adversaries tolerate 'collateral damage' and have set the rules of the game.  They use randomized violence to create terror (and of course, I am talking about the PTB) and you are entitled to cause terror to them.  Think of how to do that.

non violent protest will achieve nothing.  Too many people are bred and conditioned to follow the orders of the next guy up the line.  Those people should be the first target.  "innocent" public servants who follow orders are the biggest enemy of all because they are ubiquitous and dependent on the system, and they're the ones who permit the injustice to continue.

Only when they are frightened enough to realise that they are working for the enemy will you see a change. Only then can the tide be turned. When cops resign because of fear, when the army can't go out in uniform without being bombed, when judges are afraid to take bribes, and when politicians start deleting laws, you will know you are using the right amount of violence. 

The system is multifarious and nebulous...destroying one cog or lever is insufficient.  thousands must be jammed or shattered for the machine to grind to a halt.

Historically, wars are fought against the people by governments. Now is the time for the Grand War to be fought by people against the 'government', in whatever form it takes.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:32 | Link to Comment VodkaInKrakow
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Unfortunately, the police-state has also perfected these techniques.  Your statements have truth to them.

What would a police state do to a revolutionary? The put plants among non-violent protester to provoke other law enforcement. In a revolutionary environment, they will commit acts of terror against their own serfs in a revolutionary's name in order to discredit the revolution. And their serfs will believe their masters.

What you do need is a critical mass of people willing to show up. Popular uprising. Too bad, as you have so correctly pointed out, that too many are conditioned to walk into the camps.

One problem with America is that the various groups who comprise America have been taught to hate each other. Left vs. Right. Con versus Lib. Christians against non-Christians. etc. etc. etc.  If the people won, it would prove almost impossible for them to come together to restore The Republic. The Russians wrote a brilliant report on what would happen to America if the people rose up in revolution. About five seperate countries.

In the 20th century, governments killed more of their own people (along with outsiders) than people have killed people in random violence.

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 03:24 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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You're too stupid and methinks, you watch too much TV and / or movies. The govt. is not this all power entity you are thinking. You've been brainwashed my friend.

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 03:21 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Applause!!!!!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:31 | Link to Comment THE DORK OF CORK
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In European Airports I am Known by my alias as Dorkus Bigus Dickus........

Come on, who gives a shit if there is some X ray image somewhere of you fishing tackle !

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:38 | Link to Comment stev3e
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Me

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:42 | Link to Comment THE DORK OF CORK
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Steve the Penis is out there..............

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:55 | Link to Comment stev3e
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That's what they call me at the Minneapolis-St. Paul Int'l Airport.....

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:03 | Link to Comment VodkaInKrakow
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Seriously, would you like to see your grandma on porntube?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:38 | Link to Comment B9K9
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systematic abuser of those primal human weaknesses

Primary human weaknesses are the very traits that provided crucial evolutionary competitive advantages before the advent of civilization. These 'weaknesses' will always be present as long as mankind exists:

  1. Lust – to have an intense desire or need
  2. Gluttony – excess in eating and drinking
  3. Greed - excessive or reprehensible acquisitiveness
  4. Laziness – disinclined to activity or exertion
  5. Wrath – strong vengeful anger or indignation
  6. Envy – painful or resentful awareness of an advantage enjoyed by another joined with a desire to possess the same advantage
  7. Pride - quality or state of being proud – inordinate self esteem

The power-elite understand these essential truths, but moreso, realize that one can profit immensely by providing goods & services that satisfy these demands.

A scientist like TMosely can tell us in very technical terms the causative effects various chemical compounds such as opiates, nicotine, alcohol, etc. have on the human brain (actually, all animal species).

But who among us, other than usurers and market researchers from the fields of psychology & psychiatry, fully understand the same effects of debt & consumption? It's a drug, people - it's addictive and debilitating just like any other drug.

The pushers who enslaved an entire nation are just as culpable as any other debased criminals. It is only after we have excised their kinds from our midst, and return society to one dedicated to advancing the application of knowledge towards renewed productivity, that we will finally get the monkey off our back.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:59 | Link to Comment merehuman
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Years ago in my 20s (1974) i spent time in the Oregon wilderness. Once there, i was by myself, no tv,radio or anything to read. Nothing for the mind to latch on to. After a few days of this i caught myself reading my ID as if i had never seen it before. My mind was starving for something to look at.To read. I searched all my few belongings with a desperation. It showed me how powerful an influence the mind can be over ones life. It is a tool that has grown out of control among  the multitudes who seek stimulation.

I respect the mind, but love my heart.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:18 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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I'm actually living in China, and when I'm not working or wasting time bullshitting on the computer, I'm actually meditating. As they say "Control your mind, and you control the world". Well, I'm here to tell you, its easier said than done. I'm having a helluva time getting to shut it out for more than 15 minutes at a time.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 18:04 | Link to Comment cossack55
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If you find a method, please advise. I'll even opt for 10 minutes.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 18:56 | Link to Comment merehuman
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i spent ayear going barefoot. kept getting caught in my thoughts and wanted to learn mind control. Every time i would step on a rock it would remind me to focus. Its more a case of ignoring it. The mind is not in your head, its all around you, all the time. The brain is merely the material , as the body is the material for our lifegiving presence.

Much like so many rays and waves we do not see. Believing you are nothing but a body or mind is the very wall stopping most of us as we cling to our identity using all we see to continioually reassert our connection to the image we call reality. 

Frankly its all about ones ability to focus ones attention and balance all aspect of ones existance in order to rise above it.

BK 9 I love your list. Very apt. I pass for now, but its an ongoing fight as long as there is a body, theres an ego. So the fight goes on. Pride of mind is the undoing of many especially those who claim to own the truth and some even sell it. 

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 03:28 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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I'll tell you what. I just do breathing exercises to gradually shut down the incessant chatter. However, my 17 yr. old son has a real interest in this stuff. After finishing school 2 yrs ago, he joined a buddhist uni outside Kunming. Now he's outside Mandalay, Myanmar, and he wrote recently, and said he's making some real progress. He'll be back here for regular uni at the end of Feb. I can let you know what he found out.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 19:26 | Link to Comment Dapper Dan
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What time is it there?  In China I mean..

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 03:34 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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Sorry, I just woke up and went out for lunch. Its 3:34 pm

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Dan The Man
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If silver cracks 30$ by the end of the week, i'm getting 200lbs of rice & beans and storing them in the basement

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:45 | Link to Comment LeBalance
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if you are going to store you might be interesting in mylar bags, oxygen absorbers, and a sealer for the bag.

http://www.frontiersurvival.net/cat--Mylar-Bags-Oxygen-Absorbers-Food-St...

There are several packaging videos on youtube that show the process.  Not hard.

Just packing away rice will go rancid in short order.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 19:59 | Link to Comment Bendromeda Strain
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Use parboiled for storage. The nutrients are pressure transferred from the bran into the grain, and the starches develop a hard gelatinous coating that makes them excellent for long storage. Takes longer to cook, but you should have a pressure cooker anyway if you are food aware.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:35 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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I myself, used to buy into the Neocon ways and listen to their propoganda and believe it. Then one day, when my hero at the time, Rush Limbaugh, was found to be using narcotics while on the air, I realized there was something fishy going on. I also noticed that no matter what happened, things continue to get worse. I could not understand it. All I heard was excuses. I started digging and thinking about it and then I woke up and the scales fell from my eyes and I realized that everything I thought I knew was one big lie. I told anyone that would listen and they told me to shut up and that they did nto want to hear it, even members of my own family almost came to the point of disowning me. This was in December 2004, when a epiphany happened to me and I have never gone back to the old ways but continue own in a search for real truth. So now I see things as they are and I watch as Rome burns and nobody sees it and nobody cares. My country is dying and nobody cares. What a terrible thing to watch. One thing is for sure. There are too many people who say yes to a few baubles and too few who stand up and say no more. A sign of the times perhaps. As the Arabs might say, it was written long ago. But I , like many, have this notion of freedom and liberty that burns inside of my heart. The fire burns day and night. It is not the revolutionary fire in the minds of men such as the freemasons talk about ,but is the fire of real freedom and liberty which this country , was supposed to be all about from the start. Somewhere along the way, in the sands of time , we have lost our way. The question must be asked. Are there any volunteers who would give all they have for her alive now?  Are there?  For you see, while we slept she was stolen from us. Now she must be taken back. They will not like it nor will they accept it. We talk about laws and ethics  but the enemy cares not one whit about this sort of thing. They only care about money and power. So now the dice have been rolled and we have come up snakes eyes , on this roll. But we can roll again, but the "money" that must be wagered on this bet, is the lives of two generations of men and women. We cannot say that this will happen overnight. The struggle will be of monumental proportions. This cannot be overemphasized. The enemy will pull out all the stops. To know the enemy you must think like them. I fear too many do not know just who it is and what it is that they are dealing with. The Band called Pokerface sings a song that includes the following in it: I would rather die than be your slave. That pretty well sums it for me. I am a Christian man. But I have serious trouble turning the other cheek. I do not intend on going quietly into the night. Patrick Henry said. Give me liberty or give me death. For me to live, is to be free. It has been a long time since I have felt free. I long for the sweet nector of liberty that must taste so , so good.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:49 | Link to Comment LeBalance
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Start with your phrase: "My country..."

It is neither yours nor a country.

Then move on to "liberty..."

It is leave from a ship for a slave.

So in the end the first job is to continue to be inquistive.  To define your relationship with the United States, if that is "your country."  Then to figure out what you want to do next.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 20:42 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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+1  A solid thwack of brotherly love

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Tsukato
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BRAVO! Finally a little passion! Of course like me, you are just kidding, right? HAHAHAHA!! Its fun getting repeatedly fist fucked! Lets get back to TV now. and dont forget all you rebel kids.... ROCK THE VOTE!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:31 | Link to Comment Boba Fiat
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I don't have time to vote.  I'm reading a People magazine article about Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore.  All I know is TIME magazine voted Bernanke Man of the F'ing Year....and that's good enough for me.  Why are you people so agitated about stuff?  Chillax!  Buy an iPad and listen to Kanye or something.  Geeesh!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:09 | Link to Comment calltoaccount
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People have no idea how bad the economy really is, how it got that way, and the horrible consequences 99% of us face if we do nothing to change the status quo. The gov and media are engaged in a massive coverup of the gigantic fraud that took place and is still going on-- in order to protect their asses and further enrich the thieves.  

Everyone should see this David DeGraw video about the financial terrorist criminals who've literally taken over America. DeGraw is a true patriot who loves his country and has the courage to speak the truth. Please watch and pass this along.

http://maxkeiser.com/2010/10/29/david-degraw-the-road-to-revolution-99-uprising-unplugged

and here is DeGraw's platform for real change:

 

 

The Economic Elite Vs. The People of the United States of America 
It's time for 99% of Americans to mobilize
and aggressively move on common sense political reforms.


We will obviously have many differences on how our country should be run, but we can all come together to dismantle the Economic Elite by making several pivotal political reforms. As long as the game is rigged in favor of the Economic Elite, we will all lose. So let's find common ground and focus on several obvious battles that we need to win, and can win:

Election Reform 

* Electronic Voting: First and foremost, no private corporation should be able to tell us who has won an election without providing an auditable paper trail. Many Democrats felt that Bush stole the 2000 and 2004 elections, and many Republicans felt Obama stole the 2008 election. Of course people are going to feel that elections are stolen when you have a private corporation secretly counting the votes; it is the inevitable result when you can't verify the election results. In the past few years companies that count the votes have been consolidating, and one company, ES&S, now secretly controls the majority of all our votes. As voting watchdog Brad Friedman stated, “With the ES&S takeover of Diebold/Premier, their nearest competitor, the privately-run election Goliath now has an un-overseeable lock on virtually every election in the United States of America.” It is common sense to say that this is way too much power to be put into one private corporation

* Campaign Finance: The stunning ruling by the Supreme Court to allow unlimited political spending by the Economic Elite has made a bad situation even worse. We must level the playing field by enacting laws to prevent the overwhelming influence of big money interests in controlling politicians who are forced to pander to them for the ever-increasing need to raise more and more money to have any shot at winning public office. Statistics show how much the Economic Elite already dominate this process: over 90% of the time the candidate who simply spends more money on their campaign wins the election

* The Two-Party Oligarchy: We must end the two-party system by funding and voting for alternative parties.  It is absurd and completely outdated to only have two dominant political parties in a technologically advanced nation of 309 million people. The two-party paradigm is obsolete and creates a system easily manipulated, as the past decade proves with the co-option of the Democratic and Republican parties. We can give our money and support to whomever we like - Libertarians, Tea Party, Progressives, Greens, Independents and the many soon-to-be-created political groups. However, it is pivotal that we immediately cease support for both the Republican and Democratic parties. We understand the there are representatives from both parties who are fighting for our interests, but they are very few and easily marginalized by paid-off party leaders. 

* Getting on the Ballot: Republicans and Democrats have created rules to make it increasingly difficult for opposing political parties to even get on the voting ballot. We must make this process easier and invite new parties onto the ticket. 

* Debate Commission: The Democratic and Republican control over who is allowed to participate in the nationally televised debates gives the two parties an insurmountable advantage over any other parties. If you are not even allowed to participate in them, you have no shot at winning. Along with this, all candidates should be given a fair share of television coverage. 

* Voter Registration: If you are a citizen, you should be automatically registered to vote. 

Governmental Policy Formation 

* Secrecy, Transparency and AccountabilityGovernment secrecy is at the root of most of our current societal and economic problems. When decisions are made in secrecy, corruption will most often be the result. By throwing light and investigation on the government policy process, we can easily expose the Economic Elite's agenda and limit their influence. As part of this, all legislation and conference reports must be posted online prior to Congressional debate and vote. 

* Lobbying: Along with campaign finance, political lobbying is another way the Economic Elite can easily manipulate our political process financially, in what amounts to legalized bribery. In 2009, a record amount of money was spent lobbying Congress, and now with the new Supreme Court ruling, lobbyists will have even more power to manipulate the political process with what amounts to buying the laws of our nation. Lobbying activities behind closed doors must cease entirely and equal time must be given, transparently, to all the parties directly affected by the law being written. 

* Shutting the Revolving DoorNo politician should be allowed to profit from government laws or policies which they have written or supported. The practice of leaving a major company to become a politician who then creates and/or supports laws that directly benefit the corporation he or she used to work for, or, conversely, politicians who leave public office to take a high-paying job for a company they have benefited, is a grotesque abuse and manipulation of the democratic process. The revolving door between politics and big business is worse than it has ever been and has corrupted the government like never before. 

Information Platforms 

* Media Concentration: Having a few large multinational corporations dominating the overwhelming majority of our news and information system will never lead to an informed citizenry. Only ten multinational corporations dominate our mainstream media system. These companies are run by 118 individuals who actively work to propagate Economic Elite rule. The people who run these media companies also sit on other corporate boards that often represent a major conflict of interest. Having only 118 people in ten companies dominating a system that creates public opinion for 309 million people is absurd. We must break up this information cartel and support a more diverse and vibrant independent press that fosters real investigative journalism. 

* Net Neutrality: The free and open architecture of the Internet is vital to our success. Without an open Internet our most powerful medium for research and communication, and key organizing tool, will be lost. The Internet must be protected from growing forces that seek to control it by limiting our access to information and our ability to communicate on a mass scale. 

Healthcare 

* Medical Costs: We have disagreements on how to best provide healthcare, but we all agree that whatever the method, the result needs to be lower costs. We have the most expensive healthcare system in the world and we now pay twice as much as other nations. Other than creating huge salaries for health industry-related executives, there isn't any reason why we should be forced to pay such outrageous sums of money for second-rate care. No American should die due to lack of money, or have to face bankruptcy in order to get life-sustaining treatments. 

* Food and Water Supply: Our food and water supply systems have become a major health hazard. The amount of harmful chemicals found in both our food and water have reached record levels and is causing alarming levels of sickness in a growing number of people. 

Real Economic Competition 

* Most Americans Believe in Competition: If a person works hard, is productive and good at what they do, most everyone believes that they should make more than a person who sits around looking for handouts. However, just as in sports, to maintain a competitive environment you have to have rules in place that prevent people from having an unfair advantage. For those who believe in competition, in capitalism and free markets, you have to acknowledge that what we have now is not a free market based on fair competition. It is a rigged market, where larger institutions like Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan have an unfair advantage. We cannot allow them to be beyond the law, manipulate the market and then receive taxpayer funds to increase profits and risk-taking while smaller companies, outside of Economic Elite circles, have to play by a much stricter set of rules. 

You can't have free market capitalism when you have government policies favoring companies that have more political clout than others. What we have is socialism for the rich and trickle down economics for the rest of us. We have a market systemically designed to funnel money into the pockets of the richest. If the past few years have proved anything, they have proved that our economy is much more like a pyramid scheme than a free market, where the more money you have, the more money you make. So whatever your economic beliefs and theories might be, let's all come together to admit that our "free market" is an illusion. We need to make the economic playing field fair so that we can have real competition. 

* Redistribution of WealthDue to the rigging of our economic and political system, vast sums of wealth have been hoarded by the Economic Elite over the past 40 years. This money must be redistributed to the 99% of Americans who have been robbed and exploited. There will be much heated debate over how this money should be distributed, but we all need to agree that we must first hold the Economic Elite accountable and our wealth must be seized from them. 

* Investigations and ProsecutionsThe Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission has the power to reveal the inner workings of the financial coup. We must apply intense public pressure and scrutiny to force the Commission into conducting a real investigation. Another urgent priority needs to be a much wider-ranging look at war profiteering. There has been some investigation, but not nearly enough and hardly any prosecution. These are just two of the many investigations that need to be launched. As long as we keep letting the Economic Elite get away with outright theft in broad daylight, we will never be able to restore a nation of law. 

There are obviously other vital issues that need to be addressed, but these are the core common-ground issues that we must urgently rally around and support. Unless we organize and take decisive action on all these issues, we will all suffer the consequences of our collective inaction. Any politician who does not urgently move on these issues must be voted out of office and replaced by people who will aggressively fight on these fronts. 

These are the core issues that keep the Economic Elite in power. As famed military strategist Carl von Clauswitz wrote in his study "On War," it is pivotal to strike at this core structure, at "the hub of all power and movement, on which everything depends."

 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:14 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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* Lobbying: Along with campaign finance, political lobbying is another way the Economic Elite can easily manipulate our political process financially, in what amounts to legalized bribery. In 2009, a record amount of money was spent lobbying Congress, and now with the new Supreme Court ruling, lobbyists will have even more power to manipulate the political process with what amounts to buying the laws of our nation. Lobbying activities behind closed doors must cease entirely and equal time must be given, transparently, to all the parties directly affected by the law being written. 

* Shutting the Revolving DoorNo politician should be allowed to profit from government laws or policies which they have written or supported. The practice of leaving a major company to become a politician who then creates and/or supports laws that directly benefit the corporation he or she used to work for, or, conversely, politicians who leave public office to take a high-paying job for a company they have benefited, is a grotesque abuse and manipulation of the democratic process. The revolving door between politics and big business is worse than it has ever been and has corrupted the government like never before. 

Information Platforms 

* Media Concentration: Having a few large multinational corporations dominating the overwhelming majority of our news and information system will never lead to an informed citizenry. Only ten multinational corporations dominate our mainstream media system. These companies are run by 118 individuals who actively work to propagate Economic Elite rule. The people who run these media companies also sit on other corporate boards that often represent a major conflict of interest. Having only 118 people in ten companies dominating a system that creates public opinion for 309 million people is absurd. We must break up this information cartel and support a more diverse and vibrant independent press that fosters real investigative journalism. 

* Net Neutrality: The free and open architecture of the Internet is vital to our success. Without an open Internet our most powerful medium for research and communication, and key organizing tool, will be lost. The Internet must be protected from growing forces that seek to control it by limiting our access to information and our ability to communicate on a mass scale. 

 

"People should be made to suffer this twice... at least!"

http://www.opensecrets.org/

Who owns your Favorite Whore within the beltway? Check and see?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:31 | Link to Comment Sean7k
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I don't think there is anything more amusing than reading fix it lists for government. You can't fix a closed system. Get it? We are not allowed in. We are not a part of the decision making apparatus. 

Governments are run by people whom manage power and influence through acquired wealth for their benefit.

You are a slave as long as you live under a government. After that, it is just an argument over one, living conditions. Two, titles. Three, system viability. 

The only true liberty exists when sovereignty is vested in the individual. It is a dual edged sword for then all responsibility resides in the individual as well. We are promised a compromise between slavery and freedom, we are sold a system that promises more freedom than slavery, but the system will always move towards greater slavery and less freedom. The choice is ours...

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:52 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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http://www.opensecrets.org/

Who owns your Favorite Whore within the beltway? Check and see?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:18 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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What if we just ignored them and started our own government?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:51 | Link to Comment Sean7k
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Guess it depends on how many of us there are...piecemeal or large segments...unfortunately, I think there are some difficult choices ahead...you seem pretty bright...what will you choose?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 18:10 | Link to Comment cossack55
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Honestly, why in the world do you feel the need of a goobermint.  All democracy allows is for you to choose the person behind the gun aimed at your head.  Select-an-Overseer might make a good game show.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:46 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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It is human nature to live in community/society.  The concept of no government is simply anarchy, just like overwhelming government that has come to know only lawful plunder and false philanthropy. Two sides of the same Iridium coin. I say Iridium because it is the marker of a past extinction level event. Maximum fools gold distilled to the pure.

Meanwhile, I would observe we are getting close to seeing Ben Richards go running on the TV, right after swimming with the croc's.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 19:39 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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If things turn ugly...I can see Jungle Law for a good lil while, which is worse than to, too many laws... I might add. But I am not yet 40... so, what the fuck ever! As far as the people, we few... we can NOT! "Rock the Vote!" The sheepeople out number us, by design. Thusly what we all turned a blind eye to for so very long will now take hold of us. We all are getting what we all deserve, facts are facts. Sorry if that was not direct enough an answer for your taste.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 20:43 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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I thought we had.   Must be getting ahead of myself again. 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 20:51 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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We gots to do it again. It is actually the only orderly way I can see. Thing is you would need money for the ad campaign...

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 21:07 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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I Love the idea... I floated it myself here many moons ago... but with all of the brain power here... no one stepped up for any kind of serious planning to reach the idiot masses to effect real change.

I will happily join any group you get together... I am in... but I will be the only one that jumps up and says pick me! pick me! Sorry to be the barer of bad news. 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 23:51 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Thanks to Ben and his employers that isn't, or soon won't be a problem.  It is becoming widely appreciated the supposed barriers no longer apply as the phenomenon of overwhelming micro imperatives gain in near universality. 

In this effort I have come to trust the accumulated wisdom of your humanity.  Time for those of us willing to look at the issues surrounding siting & setting a decent foundation to get to work so the framers, plumbers, electricians, roofers, landscapers & finishers can get to it when the time arrives.  Best -

PS  I suspect that before too long there will be an effort to try and figure a way through to the other side and present it as a Fait Accompli.  The primary hurdle appears to be the homogenized nature of the intellectual capacity within the current decision cycle.  This fact has been made clear to more than one group of folks while searching for potential seems to be the present action at the top.

Like a family that has just came to understand a dread diagnosis regardless of the best efforts of their family doc who has done all in their power to withhold the brutal facts of life as disclosing the truth would expose the epic failure of a belief system.  Confronted with the certainty of direct and irrefutable evidence, the docs tried and true; "Don't believe what you see, believe what I tell you" has lost its appeal.  Meanwhile the family must now try and find some solid information but have no idea where to go or who to trust for advice.  The micro asserting itself once more as the current affairs of daily living continue through the effects of mass and momentum.

I cannot but suspect that a future watchword may well be devolution rather than revolution as power will shift from macro to micro imperatives and hopefully find some sense of balance between the two.  That is IF a process is found to make for an orderly transition.

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 11:50 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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We are not together enough yet to get "orderly" organized. It may yet emerge...or would that be de-merge...

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 00:31 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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The globalization of complex financial relationships, much lauded before the crisis, is now proving a liability in resolving the crisis. Optimists must rely on Israeli politician Abba Eban's observation that "History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives."

- Satyajit Das

Although I must confess to a certain affinity for that whole de-merge deal since it reflects the presence of quality alchemy through the whole of the M&A life cycle...

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