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BTFOD!
The problem is not Libya colleagues, is ALGERIA¡
Libya, ALgeria, Tunisia....all are in the thick of it.
My Axis Of Evil Doing is proving to be quite the thesis.....
See France.... it slices right through it....
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/axis-of-evil-doing/
What are you smoking?
What are you not seeing?
ORI
There you go. What did I say when Sarkozy was makng his sanctimonious anti banker speech (meanwhile fully supporting the central banking system). Commies are so easy to manipulate.
London Heathrow Terminal 5 is being partially being evacuated no reason provided
Well of course he is. This jewish mossad agent and leader of France is saying this because his rothschild masters are pissed that their plan is being put on hold by that old goat , president for life , Gadaffi, who himself is pissed at what has happened and now is doing everything in his power now, to stop the takeover of his country. They pissed in the wrong cornflakes with this guy........ha ha ha
Dude...the first step is admitting you have a problem. There are people who can help, if you just make that first step.
Fuck yeah.
Its a dirty job, reading between the lines. Someone has to do it. Remember, so far, google can be your friend. Try it and discover a whole new way of learning and thinking, while you still can , before they shut it down.........
France is 1 of the few countries where anti-semitism is a crime(yes saying you love Hitler is punishable there)
That's right and you can't even say anything about the OMG ! holohoax.......or else it is the klink and just remember, during your trial for said offenses, facts don't matter and if any lawyer defends you, he or she can be imprisoned for doing such as well. ha ha
its that whole Vichy France thing.
the french take N africa very seriously..
muslims who step out of line IN france will not be treated with kid gloves..machine guns will remove many..news people will be targets unless they show what gov wants.
fascism and france ryme for a reason. me thinks the french have just about had it with the stinking muslim of paris slums.
Well it appears that the main goal now is total social unrest in many countries. If you notice how all of the European leaders are now saying almost in unison that multiculturalism does not work. Well gee, they are saying this now, but after they themselves for years supported it, now they say it is no good. Imagine that. I think they want a race war to commence. I mean think about it. While the gentile idiots are fighting each other and killing each other, they are much easier to control and deal with. Also if you notice, that the Israelis are supporting the president for life in Libya and the Amerikans are supporting the rebels. Strange juxtapositioning, no ?
I fail to see what you are talking about . No correlaton whatsoever. Vichy was a get along just to get along kind of thing, which one might construe as being very similar to the way we are here now. Most amerikans just get along just to get along and no matter what happens, they just go with the flow, oh they bitch, but they won't do anything. My hat is off to those who swim against the stream , who swim against the tide and say things that must be said while they still can be said.
Besides if you must know, there were some Frenchmen who started to realize what ww2 was really all about and wanted to help out as much as they could, mainly for their own personal interest, which they knew , as white western men, were at stake. For you see, the French as a people are mainly germanic in nature, and these tribes drifted over to the area we call France long ago. It used to be called Gaul by the Romans. But such things are lost now, perhaps never to return . There were many Frenchmen who volunteered for the German SS and , I must say, there were many jews who volunteered as well. What ! No way! Jews in the SS? Get our of here, surely its not so. But it is, ha ha.
The assimililation of jews into white western european culture irritated jewish religious leaders to no end. I mean after all, if the jews as a tribe disappear into the cultural ether of europe , then we would have no way of making money off of them, hitting them over the head daily and so on, with rabbinical judaism. So the Rebe's started this thing called zionism and a return to their "homeland' (cough cough ) kind of thingy and well we now see the result of this insanity daily.........But let't talk in a whisper about such things, we certainly don't want to wake the babies..........
Do you, like, just make shit up to fit into your twisted world view?
Gaul was Celtic....
The Franks were Germanic...
The French underground completely outnumbered any French SS volunteers...
au contraire mon ami. on a permis 15, 000 hommes et 13, 000 hommes ont été acceptés. la résistance française était la plupart du temps communiste. non ?
Et les gens qui ont s'engage SS sont les fascist, n'est pas?
Peut tu donne une reference pour tes chiffres?
As an aside: Your french is good, \hattip
If you are going to talk about frog then you got to speaky the francois.........
I was paying you a compliment in a way that other ZH'ers could grasp...
Maybe those brave, honorable French who so valiantly fought the Nazis will send the brave, honorable Goumiers into Libya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate
Why don't you read up on the Charlemagne division and French volunteers, you can start here
http://sturmvogel.orbat.com/charlemagne.html
Hell, I could go Michigan and Idaho and raise a larger number...
oui, mais celui était une unité de beaucoup d'unités.
Tu es tellement eronee
Re: My observation on Idaho/Michigan. Take a peak over in the "Erste Oil..." thread. There is a minority population to draw upon everywhere....
Familial ties to the Austrian Empire here. Henry II granted the land, which still remains in our control (Quendlenburg), in 1012 A.D. The French are not part of our family.
Best Regards,
A Hapsburg Descendent
You are not looking at the big picture. Go further back. You have to learn to think big...........
tu parles comme un pieds noir de houston
touche
The Hapsburg were unknown swiss peasants in 1012 AD. They only appeared on european scene from 1270 onwards. As for their original swiss castle it was a hawk's nest for cheese bandits. It got serious when they moved to Austria in 1276...
Not if you are a muslim". That law is only applicable to whities and nationalists!
They have a Air force base on the eastern side of Corsica - with air to air refueling they can reach out and touch Libya.
Yes they could refuel mid air but don't really need it if taking off from Korsica:
Performance F18 SuperHornet
I am just making the point that there is options for the French alone beyond the Charles De Gaulle which I believe has just come back from a cruise although I could be mistaken.
But given the closer relationship between France and Britian in recent years I would not be surprised to see a RAF Tornado detachment in Corsica soon.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsbqV0rz87o
A segue of sorts.... de Gaulle was the first western leader to tell the US to go fuck itself for all the reasons that people here now understand and bitch about. The irony is overwhelming...
French and American foriegn policy is to first order, looking at each other in the mirror.
French and American foregin policey has had pretty much the same objectives until recently - that is why they clashed.
They are both hybrid republics that have formed a union with various banking clans for better or worse.
This is a good idea. I think the U.S. should join in. Load up some C-17s with public union protestors and let them strike to their heart's content over Libyan airspace. Encourage the pilots to fly very slowly, union-style.
From cautious no-fly-zone debate...to this? WTF
The old freak em out with airstrikes threat (especially from the French) NFZ in effect by weekend.
Carla likes it when her husband talks tough
Ironic that in Libya, all the people love Gaddafi, except the ones on psychedelic drugs. In the U.S. the only people who love Obama must be on drugs.
Sarkozy is making a big mistake. The Muslims in France will own his ass if he starts murdering Libyans. Of course Sarkozy feels like he has to do something as Obama is cowering in a White House closet with Carney.
Yes, these european muslims are a problem now when these european powers under the influence of the rothschilds are told to move on these rothschild problems. I think they did not plan on this second front , right in their own backyards. While the muslims were brought to europe to destroy white western european culture, and they are doing this in spades, through this thing called multiculturalism which now the said leaders of these nations , say does not work (isn't that special) , well now they have a large contingent of possible enemy soldiers watching them , from right in their own front yards. Maybe it will be the muslims who stop the new world order. just maybe. i don't see much coming from the feminized crybaby white people who have been so beat up for so long, are now shall we say , gun shy just a tad.......
you sound very multicultural lost in transalation
East India Company Population Management: Put some other tribes among the locals who are good at popping babies and stirring up fights, then manage the animosity while extracting the ressources.
When the welfare states have been sucked dry by the bankers, the muslims will be blamed - with some justice since very few are not on welfare - and go the same way as the jews. That brings the second half of the bankster plan: Military intervention on borrowed money.
Perpetual War, Tribalism, Feudalism -> That is "the new order". It is already here!
Oil complex, meet short man's complex.
+ 5" 0' and Platform heels.
Napoleon FTW!
ORI
Largest purchasers of Libyan oil atre the French and Italian.
Largest purchasers of Libyan oil atre the French and Italian.
Let Italy figure it out. It is their imported oil. Don't they get that any bombing from outsiders will inflame Arabs? Day of Rage times 1000
just ask the French to bomb the place...
anything that shouldn't be hit will be cratered and what should be hit "missed" by 200 miles...
GREAT! Let's hope they bomb the right country...
Are you sure that there really IS a French Air Force?
spoken like a true belgian. When asked why he aimed his shots on the outside net, the belgian shooter said..."I thought the outside goals counted double!"...But that is a french joke...so very subjective...and its a bit tit for tat...hey Sudden debt?
I wonder if the French fags will give us clearance to fly over their country to bomb crater face THIS time? We lost some brave airmen the last time because of these limp-wristed bastards. I guess they NEED the oil more than their defense contracts. Fock France.
You forgot Lafayette and the Louisiana sale for a song. The french 'made' your republic.
Wait what? The French actually want to fight and have the air force to do so?
Yes.... a post most out of character for you...
If he starts shooting down allot of planes with, who knows what was sold to him, things could escalate. He was the example of a reformed dicatator for a long time.
indeed. the very model of a modern major generalissimo dicta-pup. what the hell did he do to deserve this? the EU is freezing moQ's accounts faster than a kondatrieff cold snap, and France is in the process of recognizing the Rebel Council and is looking to exchange embassadors.
bilary wants the UN to act to prevent flies and not have the US lead this thingy, for pete's sake!
meanwhile, check out what the US ambassador to france, Chas. Rivkin, has been up to recently, right here, ok? Paris Fashion Week: U.S. Ambassador Charles Rivkin hosts Michael Kors anniversary bash | All The Rage | Los Angeles Times
meanwhile, the euro has headed south, dollar up, bonds up, and commodities down, on the crimex.
stay tuned for: greece & portugal invade iran! latvia sends workers' brigade.
c'mere blythe!
Telegraph says Libya is saying they have info that would destroy Sarkosy. That France had 'recognized' the rebel regime ( whomever that maybe) and is so eager to make sure Gaddafi is 'gone' may give some credence to the Libyan claims.
France on Thursday became the first country to formally recognize Libya's opposition National Transitional Council as the legitimate government.
President Nicolas Sarkozy met with two representatives of the newly formed council on Thursday.
An official at Sarkozy's office later said France would be sending an ambassador to Benghazi and receiving a Libyan envoy in Paris.
France and Italy are the largest purchasers of Libyan oil , and though the Libyan assests are being frozen the oil continues to flow and be sold, the proceeds of the oil are not frozen.
now work it out !
France buys Libyan oil in amounts similar to USA. Both buy about 50 000 bbl/day of libyan exports. It represents 5% of its oil imports.
Also, the french have targeted three libyan airfields for surgical strikes. It would neutralize the current air pummeling of insurgents by Q's air force. I believe Cameron of UK supports this. Scheduled for discussion this W.End in Brussels euro meeting.
Interesting. I wonder if they have some "tapes" too.
ORI
I've been tellin' y'all - I really don't think the US (specifically Obama) ends up doing anything militarily in Libya (regardless of whether the US should or not). It won't be on like Donkey Kong.
The Italians probably have the most at stake but the French really have the most resources and the most experience in this area.
Does Libya have the dirt on Obama? Never mind, it's piled all around the White House.
Step back & look at the bigger picture.
George Soros : West should ' rethink ' relations with oil nations BBC
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There are reports that Ghaddafi has ~1 week of fuel left...whereas the "Freedom Fighters" can be supplied from Egypt. It will be over very soon.
Logistics, bitchez..
french foreign legion, they kicked ass in desert storm 1..hollywood could make a great movie otta the action in Libya..let's see, clint eastwood as the gruff general,johnny depp the new recruit,and lady Gaga as Gaddafi.
Booger said it best....and the french are just saying it again 25 yrs later....
"I say we blow the fuckers up"
Revenge of the nerds
Samuel Adams (American revolutionary):
James Madison (Fourth President of the United States):
Gary Busey (actor)
"When you get lost in your imaginatory vagueness your foresight will become a nimble vagrant."
Q: Why do the French like smelly cheeses?
A: Well, in a room full of French people, you can't really smell the cheese.
We are in a tough spot when the Frenchies take the lead in defending the free Western world....lol....Where´s Obama....hiding under Clinton´s skirt..oh thats right she wears pant suits...but the legs are big enought to put a humanoid in there...lol
Yeah, yeah, Democracy and freedom and all that kind of stuff is good for political speeches and right-wing radio rants, but Geeezus Christ, don't let it interfere with oil flow and profits. It just might hurt....gasp...the economy!!! Well, at least those parts of the economy that keep the money flowing to the top 5% Sorry, but that trumps all of the freedom and democracy rot.
Now, as for those parts of the economy that cripple and destroy the lower economic half? No big deal. We don't fight wars for that segment of the population, except to use them as fodder for the wars that benefit the upper portion. Yeah, I know Libya's riots affect gas prices and that can get the lunchbox crowd pretty hot, but intervening is not to make life better for them, it's to keep them from getting pissed and uprising and finally focusing their attention on who's had them under their thumb for decades.
Once you understand real economics and dump that free market fantasy taught in high school and college all of this stuff makes a lot more sense.
French cannot afford to let the regime stay in place now. Far right is rising in France (see latest polls) as a threat to the UMP for the next elections, and they could surf on the fact that illegal emigrants would be fleeing the country to avoid represailles.
Sarkozy surely need that real democratic process starts in all maghreb as soon as possible.
No reaction? I see CL and Brent down 1%.
Airmen sometimes write messages on bombs to be dropped.
What might be written on the first bombs dropped on Libya to establish a no fly zone?
"This bomb is only meant to scare Saif and Muammar Quadaffi."
"Candygram. Candygram for Muammar Quadaffi."
"Peace-seeking missile"
"Me fly. You no fly."
"500 pounds of diplomacy by other means."
"Negotiate this!"
"My first and final offer."
"No animals were harmed in the manufacture of this high explosive device."
Look how fast it takes to form a consensus opinion. Less than a month to create an excuse to bomb a country. Lol! Tell me about Palestine. Or Kurds. But they got no oil nearby, so that's a no-no. People are just so gullible, it's like stealing a candy. And then others are so cynical like they know the deal. But the truth is - you don't! (and neither do i of course) Most of ZH crowd these days sound like they are some sort of a new breed, I've-seen-it-all-I-know-all-about-shit. Well hell, once again - you don't know shit. What's more - you take for face value what MSM tells you and you fall for it like no tomorrow. In fact, you are just brainwashed as any other ordinary human being without the slightest trace of critical reasoning for themselves. You think it's winning when Sheen talks smack about drugs and you laughed at him when he talked 9/11. It's like, whoa man, you come to think of it and maybe it's not that bad - embrace all things that are Soros, zionism, bilderberg and whatnot - and appreciate them. Because in the end they do a right thing, don't they? Dumb you down, because you can't think for yourselves. Lead you like a bunch of sheep to bread and circuses.
you noticed! many of us are down to pm's, cash, food, transport, and solar-rechargeable AA's, with an occasional firearm here and there. that's the deal i know. and i don't steal any old candy, either, only dark chocolate Mounds.
Sarcasm is warranted i guess. But i wouldn't call that "many". Most turn a blind eye on what's going on in the world and think they'll make it though whatever turmoil there is/will be. Also, Slewie, there can easily be a S510 setup for your pm's and firearms - the ground is aready set and more than ripe for a further power grab by the governments.
oh, yes, they can do this and that and the other, too! i don't know what "ground" you are on, but mine feels just fine, to me. really.
i know! just inflated compensation for having and being nothing. it's after 8 am and i think i'll go out and play, if that's ok w/ you, of course...
Yea man, whatever floats you boat. You made me sound like some kind of alex jones, anyway. Sorry to rain on your parade, nothing to see here, of course. Everything's cool, go play in the sun.
I would love to see some 50 cal. lead projectiles ,parting Sarkozy's hair.
TSX down almost 300 points ...28? something the radio just said.
I'm guessing if Daffy Duck sees the west turning on him with a no fly zone or air strikes. He will quickly send out his henchmen to destroy all oil facilities as reprisal. This is going to go bad either way.
More and more this Libyan conflict smells - we are gettingt he compulsory Chemcial weapons comemnts out of Clinton now on Reuters and the rebels are hardly kicking butt - hard to disagree with the gameplan of grabbing their oil. Some one tell Clinton no one lsitens to her after such a weak response to all this crisis by her and Obama over the past 6 weeks.
i'll say it again, as hopefully this time i'll get a better response- short this market! names i'm looking to short: http://www.hedgefundlive.com/blog/short-this-market-ill-say-it-again-which-names-to-short
told ya...France wants actual military experience. It is irrelevant whether this is a just cause or not.
Using the CDG to attack Libya gives them operational experience that is hard to come by, lots of turn&burn sorties possible, real air to air kills, etc.
It's unrealistic to expect a nation to pursue the type of naval air assets France has and then not be desirous of putting them to use.
Kadhafi has claimed that he holds a secret on Sarkozy that could make him fall from his presidency...many articles available...in french.
This announcement came from the Lybian Jana press Agency.
Q's slush funds to french election contributions...?
http://owni.fr/2011/03/04/paris-arme-secrete-de-kadhafi/
Gaddafi's played a good hand. He's kept a lid on the rebels essentially, and held back until he confirms The International Community is going to do nothing. He's clearly reached that point now. He's rolling out the big guns - literally. I expect him to take the country back. The Empire is striking back. And who knows? maybe Gaddafi will tell the rebel leader he's his father!