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Fresh Silver Breakout Sends Price To New Three Decade High

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Is it time to start quoting that famous William Butler Yeats poem yet?

 


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Fri, 04/08/2011 - 10:57 | Link to Comment LRC Fan
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Silver, bitchezzzzzzzzz

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:01 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Crash fascism, buy silver!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:13 | Link to Comment BlackholeDivestment
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BlackholeDivestment says ''Fight Club'' is on Bitchez. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToceoE9DHWY

Yer gonna ''crash fascism'' by drinking from Chairsatan's ''BTFD Cup of Fornication'' filled with the wine of wrath when ...you sell your pimp'd out dusty delusional ass? ...you pathetic whore. Don't F yourself in public bitchez, it's unbecoming. END THE F'n FED, numb nuts. 

What, Chairsatan's IKIEA lizard lounge chair is that comfortable?

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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"Look", says Barrack, " Dr Bernanke can get out of that lounge chair and raise rates in, um, 15 minutes."  [blink, blink]  "Let's let him do his thing, and um, go on with our lives, like Americans do.  Remember, you are special.  You are a unique snowflake.  You are how much money you have in the bank.  You are the shoes you wear.  You are the contents of your wallet."

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 16:22 | Link to Comment Mark McGoldrick
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WB. Yeats is nice, but I think this is more fitting:

PARANOIA BLUES

I’m too terrified to walk out of my own front door,
They’re demonstrating outside I think they’re gonna start the third world war,
I’ve been to my local head shrinker,
To help classify my disease,
He said it’s one of the cases of acute schizophrenia he sees.

Well the milkman’s a spy, and the grocer keeps on following me,
And the woman next door’s an undercover for the k.g.b.,
And the man from the social security
Keeps on invading my privacy,
Oh there ain’t no cure for acute schizophrenia disease.

I’ve got acute schizophrenia paranoia too,
Schizophrenia, schizophrenia,
I’ve got it, you’ve got it, we can’t lose,
Acute schizophrenia blues.

I’m lost on the river, the river of no return,
I can’t make decisions, I don’t know which way I’m gonna turn,
Even my old dad, lost some of the best friends he ever had,
Apparently, his was a case of acute schizophrenia too.

I got acute schizophrenia paranoia too,
Schizophrenia, schizophrenia,
I’ve got it, you’ve got it, we can’t lose,
Acute schizophrenia blues,

They’re watching my house and they’re tapping my telephone,
I can’t trust nobody, but I’m much too scared to be on my own
And the income tax collector’s got his beady eye on me,
Oh there ain’t no cure for acute schizophrenia disease.

No there ain’t no cure for
Schizophrenia disease.

--Unknown author

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 15:24 | Link to Comment BlackholeDivestment
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPE7evFnwMg

Hey, ''Lennon Catch 22 Hedrix'', ''Help him, help him''.

Pilot to O'Bomba Dear, Can you please quantify [ blink, blink ] ? 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L531i3OnCUM&feature=related  Hep Me hep Yu. [Blink= Hey Ho, Yue owe Mo and Yu and Yo's Great Wal Mart of Communist China worth less dusty ass. Blink]= Yu still a POMO Ho bitchez.

P.S. If that is not correct, maybe you can hep Me hep Me, I have Ben Hip no Ties with the math. Ain't ta gud with the principalities of municipalities dig, much less D State event horizon and Fed debt at the foreign and domestic breadline.

Alkyhol Withrdrawal is a helluva thang, but yuh can duit. Put down th BTFD Cup and ETFF.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B46yPJm6P9E&feature=related

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:00 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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No inflation, eh Benocide?

No, none.  People are just more sophisticated these days, especially the ones on food stamps.

Bankster thug.

 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:45 | Link to Comment wirtschaftswunder
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZz

Have bears become extinct?

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 15:33 | Link to Comment akak
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Where's Mothman with his repititious tripe that it only costs $5 to dig it out of the ground?

Really, those Cass Sunstein-hired anti-PM, pro-Establishment trolls really need to refine their lines.  But that is, after all, government work for you.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:14 | Link to Comment SparkyvonBellagio
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Silver/Gold are Lead Pipe "locks".

 

 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:47 | Link to Comment Badabing
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The third of the four horsemen is holding a scale and is riding a black horse.

 


Black swan dive

The horse is the vehicle or a way to a means; in this case the leader of the free world is used as a controller of direction of the masses.

The scale is a symbol of commerce and trade. This represents our time and the scale has faulty weights.

This paper market will end, the very dynamics that is used by the money changers to control prices of all things will crash this system. A bushel of wheat for a penny? How can a bushel of wheat sell for a penny a bushel of wheat can make ten loves of bread! When the paper market crashes not only gold will go into hiding but everything of worth.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:49 | Link to Comment knukles
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There is no center left to hold

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:55 | Link to Comment brian0918
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AGQ up FIVE PERCENT today! Double leveraged silver, bitchez!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 10:58 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Goodbye, 2-ply FRN Fiatsco. Alas we hardly knew ye.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:13 | Link to Comment Cash_is_Trash
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This calls for a margin hike to save our precious 2-ply.

Move the fucking goalpost now you bitchezzz!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:32 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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I think at this point theyre scared to do another margin hike, each time they do one it means a huge move UP!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:51 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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A margin hike now does for the investors what blood in the water does for a shark.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:20 | Link to Comment Geoff-UK
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Concur.  But I bet they do it anyway.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:56 | Link to Comment mt paul
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silver sharks 

playing water polo 

with severed heads 

of bankers ..

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 10:58 | Link to Comment Robot Traders Mom
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And AAPL is getting taken to the woodshed, down almost $1...Take that to your business teacher, Robot, and tell him to smoke it.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:00 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Your son is over on other threads posting his stupid Lululemon and boutique towel stock boner charts, cant you do something about him or is the short bus in the maintenance shop this morning?

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:02 | Link to Comment lieutenantjohnchard
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kid's these days. whatcha gonna do about them?

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:03 | Link to Comment Robot Traders Mom
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Sorry Sheepdog, nothing I can do. He is not actually retarded (though many would argue he is), he is just a 16 year-old kid in a high school business class that takes advice from his teachers...

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:16 | Link to Comment Ethics Gradient
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Deleted. It's not my place to spoil someone elses fun.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:18 | Link to Comment John Law Lives
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Consider that RoboTrader is not a real "ID" but a plant by ZH to stir the pot.  I am convinced HarryWanger is not a real "ID".

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Robot Traders Mom
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The ol' ZH forum commenter plant conspiracy theory...No, they are real. One, Tyler doesn't need reason to get people to debate and comment on the threads. Two, Tyler has better things to do with his time. Three, there are many, many idiots in this world and ZH is not immune from trolls.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:46 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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I dont think ZH is the type that would put in pot stirrers, theres no need for it. These trolls are just bored attention seekers.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Robo is legit and is a contributor from time to time. Harry, IMO is a comical farce.Sometimes you guys just miss the punch line.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Richard Head
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"Robo is legit" - that's a good one!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 16:49 | Link to Comment Thomas
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Robo is Lars

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 10:59 | Link to Comment WALLST8MY8BALL
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 Attention Spaulding Smailes, There is a (Margin) Call for you on the White Courtesy Phone.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:08 | Link to Comment spartan117
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He can't pick up right now, he's too busy junking everyone.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:16 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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lol.  That came to my mind as well.

 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:28 | Link to Comment fiddler_on_the_roof
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Good one.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:58 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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I know, someone is randomly junking anything and anyone who posts. What a waste of time. No one takes a junk seriously.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:12 | Link to Comment MolotovCockhead
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That's not true, I take the junk very seriously!! I get extremely angry when I get one. Don't you dare to junk me!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 15:38 | Link to Comment I Am The Unknow...
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On day as grand as today, I couldn't care less who's doing it.  As the Black-eyed-peas would say:  "whatcha gonna do with all that junk, all that junk up in your trunk?" 

I'm gonna take mine and buy some mo' silver with it bitchez!   

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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Is that MethMan out there junking everyone out of spite?  Damn, and I've got my truck all ready to back up to my dealer in preperation for Ag to hit $20/oz...

Helloooo....  Calling MethMan....

(Reality hurts when your world view is completely false)

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:10 | Link to Comment MolotovCockhead
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Tha't not Spaulding Smailes!! With Silver shooting through the roof and Gold touching the cloud, he's too busy hitting the panic buttons. Don't have time to junk anybody.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 15:42 | Link to Comment I Am The Unknow...
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I humbly suggest the next time we see either Spaulding, MethwoMan, or whomever Willie-the-Bustard is calling himself these days, that we pile the junk on and junk them off the site.  These a-holes simply deserve it after all the crap we have taken from them for so long.  I promise you if I see them on this thread as I go through just now, that I will indeed junk them.

Everyone, have a GREAT weekend! 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:02 | Link to Comment spartan117
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Still waiting for a limit up day in gold or silver.  You know it's a "controlled" market when every other "commodity" has limit up/down days, but when was the last time you saw one in gold or silver?  Anyone?

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:31 | Link to Comment Quintus
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I recall reading some time ago that there are effectively no limits on Gold and Silver.  I cannot remember the precise wording, but in essence the limit, such as it is, is so wide that it might as well not be there.

Perhaps someone with more knowledge on this topic can chip in with more details.

There is, of course, the unofficial 2% upside limit in Gold which has survived unbroken for many years, but you won't find that in any CFTC rulebook.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:49 | Link to Comment spartan117
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Limit is $75:

 

Contract Specifications:GC,COMEX

Trading Unit: 100 troy ounces Tick Size: $.10/oz. = $10.00 Quoted Units: US $ per troy ounce Initial Margin: $4,300   Maint Margin: $3,250 Contract Months: All 12 months. First Notice Day: Last business day of month preceding contract month. Last Trading Day: Third last business day of the month. Trading Hours: Open outcry trading is conducted from 8:20 A.M. until 1:30 P.M.
Electronic: 3:15 P.M. on Mondays through Thursdays and concluding at 8:00 A.M. the following day.
Sundays, the session begins at 7:00 P.M. All times are New York time. Daily Limit: $75.00 per ounce
Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:47 | Link to Comment Strider52
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Slightly OT, but yesterday people were talking about how many people actually owned PMs. Today, on my way to work, a journey of 25 miles, I saw 2 license plates of interest: One was AWAY AG, and the other was IOCILVR. There's your 2% of people who own silver, if you include me.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:38 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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I did a little survey myself. My FB list is 220+. I asked how many own any physical gold and silver. NONE have respnded "yes" so far.

My guess it's 1-2% tops on any gold/silver exposure and most of that being GLD and SLV.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:07 | Link to Comment magis00
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Please don't do that.  Lots of assholes out there who'd love to find out how much you've got stacked.  FB is about the worst thing to happen to privacy ... um, ever. 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 14:56 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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Roger that. Deleted.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 10:29 | Link to Comment Badabing
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Those two plates are for equestrian enthusiasts. AKA The lone ranger “hi ho silver away” silver was his horse. So no 2%

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:02 | Link to Comment lieutenantjohnchard
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it's my understanding from a well-placed source here at zh that silver can be dug out of the ground for $5.00.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:07 | Link to Comment Head for the Hills
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If you know precisely where to dig, it can be had for much, much less.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:11 | Link to Comment lieutenantjohnchard
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i'll await the well-placed source to reappear from his vanishing act to tell us all where to dig, as he has all the right answers.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:14 | Link to Comment savagegoose
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i hear its so common , that it isnt mined directly, but just a by product of mining other ores. and that the cost of getting it out the ground is zero. the cost of extracting it form the other ores is $5

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:48 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Why do you think Silver Wheaton is so profitable?.

Miners have for years in the quest for Cu, lead, Tin, sold their Slvr to them at around $4.00oz.

As it costs the miners NOTHING for the silver, as they make enough on the other metals to give them a CB of Zero on Slvr.

At least this is how it has been for years.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:32 | Link to Comment oddjob
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SLW coughs up millions to miners who are now bypassing banks....taking the hedge books away from the banks was the nail in their coffin.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:07 | Link to Comment Robot Traders Mom
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Don't listen to my son. He is not well-anything

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:56 | Link to Comment PlanForTheWorst...
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Shovel in hand. 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:02 | Link to Comment baby_BLYTHE
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It costs basically nothing for the Bernank to create slips of paper (also known as Federal Reserve notes) off his magic printing presses- or its "computer equivalent".

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:05 | Link to Comment samsara
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I believe there are NO Silver mines.  There's only Zinc, Lead, etc mines that as a by product dredge up a little Ag. 

Try to find some in your backyard...   Very Rare to find.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:00 | Link to Comment tmosley
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Looks like it's going to be another one of "those" days.  You know, where no-one on ZH gets ANY work done.

I'm looking for a bear move next Wednesday, if there isn't one today.  Could be at $43 by the time it happens.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:07 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Why next Wednesday?  Why not today?  We are at a level where the industrials will start hedging and JPM will start playing psycho-tricks.  Plus, the last-minute budget pass is bound to be bearish for PMs? 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:12 | Link to Comment spartan117
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I'll try and provide an opnion as to why not. 

It won't happen "now" because everyone is expecting it to happen.  We've been so conditioned for the gut check correction that every PM buyer (0.0005% of the total population) is ready to buy the fucking dip.  Then you have all those tho thought we were heading back down to $22 that are waiting with paper money in hand, ready to buy on any correction.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:35 | Link to Comment fiddler_on_the_roof
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Correct, that is the game theory that will play out. Everyone expects a correction. Even those who do not have an ounce of Gold expect a correction. That is why my most recent purchase was at last dip at $1394 and I have been buying since it was half that price.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment tmosley
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I said either Wednesday or today.

A close above $40 today is going to generate a lot of buying pressure early next week, I think.  There seems to be an unusual amount of energy behind this move.  I'm not sure if they can knock it down below $40 today, and if they can't, they won't be able to stop the tidal wave on Monday  In addition, the generally don't like to raid on Tuesdays, which makes me think the raid won't start in earnest until Wednesday.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:33 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Sorry, you DID say either today or Wednesday.  I agree: Today is "do or die" for any large consortium short.  If they do not get silver to close below $40, then the next leg up to next level $50 will be taken over the weekend and Monday.    I think there is sizeable risk that, if the budget gets passed during trading hours today, there will be a take-down of PMs. 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:48 | Link to Comment BigJim
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The price is beginning to freak me out a little. My core holdings are physical (which will only be sold in an emergency or once we have a new monetary regime) but I use spreadbetting to dip in and out and try to make a little profit out of the volatility. I never short the price, but when it seems to have gone up a 'reasonable' amount, I sell, and wait till Blythe does her thing and I can buy cheaper. Rinse, repeat.

But there hasn't really been a 'proper' dip since the end of March. I'm wondering if something has fundamentally changed, that TPTB are going to allow PMs some real price discovery for a while.

Turd predicted the run up to $40, and was expecting some monkeyhammering then. We're at $40.49 and still no major offensive against it... makes me nervous.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment tmosley
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Eh?  The end of March was less than two weeks ago.

Look for the monkeyhammer today.  If it doesn't come, then take comfort in the fact that it probably won't come until next Wednesday.

Be wary of expecting it to just keep rising.  Every time I even start to entertain such thoughts, we get a raid.  As much as I joke about "BTFS" (buying the fucking spike), don't do that.  Only buy when it is down and/or on a regular schedule.  Don't let your emotions carry you.  Rather let your hard work and critical thinking do that.  They do a much better job.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:50 | Link to Comment BigJim
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LOL, you're right, the end of March was only two weeks ago... seems much longer, what with everything going on. Still, I've come to expect monkeyhammerings after much smaller rises in price than our recent run. I guess I've pretty much swallowed the 'PM price-suppression is essential to maintain the ponzi' thesis, so I'm amazed they're not doing more to keep the price down. All 'us doomers' know the USD will eventually tank and PM prices will skyrocket, but I was hoping it wasn't for a while... it hammers home all the things I need to get sorted if I'm to have much of a chance of surviving (let alone riding out) the concomitant collapse.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:21 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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Raids do nothing but produce Silver and Gold feeding frenzies.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:58 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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I agree with Jesse over at the Cafe--the raids are lame. They are not very good at it.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:01 | Link to Comment LRC Fan
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Does this make sense to anyone?

Everyone is expecting a last minute compromise in Washington, or at the most maybe a few days of a "shutdown."  What if they actually draw things out, "shutdown" for about a month, and tank the markets?  Then they can point and say "see, the recovery (lol) is off track because of a lack of political stability, yadda yadda yadda."  Dollar could tank too, they can basically spin it any way they want.  But I think it's a very real risk...a prolonged shutdown would help them manipulate things even more, especially in the PMs and dollar.  Just a thought, obv it won't surprise me if they "compromise" and the market closes solidly green. 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:55 | Link to Comment DosZap
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LRC,

The shutdown is about nothing except pissing off the 2012 voters and nailing the GOP to the sacrificial altar.

Straight politics.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:25 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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This in not 1995, not even close. This will fall on the heads of the democrats no matter how their media talking heads claim it's the "Extreme Tea Party Republicans". If you thought the losses were bad for the Democrats in 2010 just wait till this Tsunami rolls over them and washes them out to sea in 2012.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 16:37 | Link to Comment caboy316
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They're trying to push through defunding Planned Parenthood instead of compromising... it's pretty clear bit of ideological political theater. You're right though in that it may still fall on the heads of the Democrats, but perhaps not rightfully.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:02 | Link to Comment mt paul
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close the government down 

and keep it closed

until they lower the deficit

by 50 %....

bureaucratic bytches

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:02 | Link to Comment zaknick
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http://www.mrc.org/bmi/commentary/2011/Unreported_Soros_Event_Aims_to_Re...

 

Soros (Rothschild fiat king minion) is coming for you gold and silver bugs! All crazy for PMs yet not one word on the biggest threat to them:

Two years ago, George Soros said he wanted to reorganize the entire global economic system. In two short weeks, he is going to start - and no one seems to have noticed. On April 8, a group he's funded with $50 million is holding a major economic conference and Soros's goal for such an event is to "establish new international rules" and "reform the currency system." It's all according to a plan laid out in a Nov. 4, 2009, Soros op-ed calling for "a grand bargain that rearranges the entire financial order." The event is bringing together "more than 200 academic, business and government policy thought leaders' to repeat the famed 1944 Bretton Woods gathering that helped create the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. Soros wants a new 'multilateral system," or an economic system where America isn't so dominant. More than two-thirds of the slated speakers have direct ties to Soros. The billionaire who thinks "the main enemy of the open society, I believe, is no longer the communist but the capitalist threat" is taking no chances. Thus far, this global gathering has generated less publicity than a spelling bee. And that's with at least four journalists on the speakers list, including a managing editor for the Financial Times and editors for both Reuters and The Times. Given Soros's warnings of what might happen without an agreement, this should be a big deal. But it's not. What is a big deal is that Soros is doing exactly what he wanted to do. His 2009 commentary pushed for "a new Bretton Woods conference, like the one that established the post-WWII international financial architecture." And he had already set the wheels in motion. ..... This is all easy to do when you have the reach of George Soros who funds more than 1,200 organizations. Except, any one of those 1,200 would shout such an event from the highest mountain. Groups like MoveOn.org or the Center for American Progress didn't make their names being quiet. The same holds true globally, where Soros has given more than $7 billion to Open Society Foundations - including many media-savvy organizations just a phone call away. Why hasn't the Soros network spread the word? Especially since Soros warns, all this needs to happen because "the alternative is frightening." The Bush-hating billionaire says America is scary "because a declining superpower losing both political and economic dominance but still preserving military supremacy is a dangerous mix." The Soros empire is silent about this new Bretton Woods conference because it isn't just designed to change global economic rules. It also is designed to put America in its place - part of a multilateral world the way Soros wants it. He wrote that the U.S. "could lead a cooperative effort to involve both the developed and the developing world, thereby reestablishing American leadership in an acceptable form."

 

Anybody catch Glenn Beck yesterday squealing like a stuck pig about Soros? I think Beck represents the drug warrior redneck mafia mooching off humanity, trying to dress and act like civilized folks and failing miserably due to all that inbred inferiority complex which expresses itself as racism.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:06 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Someone just put a bullet thru that crazy old fart Soros melon. Wheres all the 'Bush haters' now that their God Obama is taking them headfirst at Blitzkreig speed into world war huh? Hypocrites everywhere.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment GoinFawr
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So either you are a Bush-hater/Obama-lover, the inverse, with no other options?

The dyed in the wool 'Bush haters' knew Obama was/is an anodyne in puppet form.

They probably think you should have voted for Ralph Nader while you still had the chance.

If you throw out a shit sandwich and I reach into the garbage can, cut off the crusts and offer it back to you, telling you it's peanut butter, if you believe me and take a bite does that make you a hypocrite?

Ans. NO. Just stupid. Even stupider if you think that the sandwich you originally threw out was actually better 'because it had crust'.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:43 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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No, anyone believing in any of this politics BS 2 headed 1 party system over the last CENTURY is in a sheeple pen!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:46 | Link to Comment GoinFawr
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-1 Junk (or +1 Unjunk)

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 14:36 | Link to Comment buzzard
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Ditto... Blindness abounds.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:57 | Link to Comment samsara
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dup

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:00 | Link to Comment samsara
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Someone in another thread last night was doing the Right vs Left, Dem vs Rep  mind trap thingy.   Then someone quoted Clinton.

- In the words of Bill Clinton a few days ago when asked about the Libyan intervention:

 

"We're trying to build a world in which people resolve their differences in non-violent ways."  -

To which I said;

"We're trying to build a world in which people resolve their differences in non-violent ways."

 

Collectivists.     

 

It's all one team kids. What fights you see are kabuki theater and the mere fighting between divisions within a corporation so to speak.

The discussions about Obama/Bush/Clinton/Bush are drawing distinctions where none really exist. 

Bush I's job before VP?  Now top exec. for Carlyle. What do they do again?

 

Bush and Clinton working together (Haiti etc)?  Read some Carroll Quigley or Read about Cecil Rhodes, as in Rhodes Scholar/Rhodesia. (Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and

Studied under Quigley)  

The right/Left Dem/Rep rope-a-dope just wears you out. 

 

Those arguments are so last century.

 

Oh, here's a quote from an news article how your current president was picked back on Sunday, June 8, 2008.

 

"Recently, there has been much discussion about Barack Obama having possibly attended the recent Bilderberg conference in Virginia. This speculation arose when Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton sneaked off for a secretive meeting while in Virginia..... "Reporters traveling with Obama sensed something might be happening between the pair when they arrived at Dulles International Airport after an event in Northern Virginia and Obama was not aboard the airplane. Asked at the time about the Illinois senator's whereabouts, [Obama spokesman Robert] Gibbs smiled and declined to comment....."7

 

One reported asked Gibbs, "Why were we not told about this meeting until we were on the plane, the doors were shut and the plane was about to taxi to take off?" to which he responded, "Senator Obama had a desire to do some meetings, others had a desire to meet with him tonight in a private way and that is what we are doing." This preceded another question, "Is there more than one meeting, is there more than one person with whom he is meeting?" Gibbs simply replied, "I am not going to get into all the details of the meeting." He again later repeated that, "There was a desire to do some meetings tonight, he was interested in doing them, others were interested in doing them, and to do them in a way that was private."8  

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9270          

 

So Obama had his meeting 'In a Smokey room...Roll the film...."     

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MRykTpw1RQ

 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:15 | Link to Comment tmosley
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He said "Fight for peace.  Make love, not war, unless you love to kill."

Whatever happened to the chainsaw juggler?

Suddenly, I feel like we are all caught in that song, and there is indeed something wrong with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFapmRm8MJs&feature=related

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:12 | Link to Comment gordengeko
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Glenn Beck is an ass clown!  Don't believe this guy, he is a wolf in sheeps clothing.  Telling you half truths and deliberately misleading you to believe the wrong way.  Shit is going down behind the scenes at a fevered pitch and the media needs clowns like this to divert attention until they announce what they came up with.  Buy silver crash this party before they can!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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Why does everyone think there's some vast secret conspiracy going on? These fuckers at the top are all clueless. 

The system is in slow motion crash mode. This will accelerate and wipe about 98% of the money out worldwide. Anyone who thinks it can be "controlled" or "handled" is wrong. We'll have to rebuild from the economic ashes, but it can be done and America will be stronger than ever. The ones who rode the car over the cliff will face justice, in this world or the next.

Acquire PM's, prepare for the "event" and keep your faith in God. 

 

Watching silver though, we may be here. Damn it does look like possible capitulation by the shorts.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:22 | Link to Comment gordengeko
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Quite the contrary.  They are extremely intelligent and know precisely what they are doing.  The goal is one world currency then a culling, the only way to do that is exactly what it is they are doing.  Think about it.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:54 | Link to Comment samsara
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Think about it.

Don't waste your time. 

"You can lead a man to knowledge, but you Can't make him Think"

(ah, I said that...)

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:04 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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No rational country is going to submit to a one world currency, Soros be damned. How did the Kyoto protocals go over? Everyone threw up at the idea of giving up control to a bunch of environmental wacks. 

Do you really think the US Sentate is going to approve a treaty giving up control of the currency (and our independance) to some world order? The Senate would be burned to the ground first by the American people and the government replaced. 

Stop being so afraid. Never gonna happen.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:19 | Link to Comment samsara
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Do you really think the US Sentate is going to approve a treaty giving up control of the currency (and our independance) to some world order?

Ha Ha.   It's amazing to listen to some folks that never did any a lick of reading or research on their own.

Try taking 3 minutes and do a TINY bit of research.

Here's an easy starting point.

Louis T. McFadden's Speech
In the House of Representatives
10 June 1932

http://www.afn.org/~govern/mcfadden_speech_1932.html

 

Or the guy that signed into law.

"There is a power so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive that prudent men better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it" - Woodrow Wilson                               Do some research, you come off sounding stupid to the few that have....                          Jus Sayin
Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:37 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Bill Moyers at the Howard Zinn Lecture http://www.bu.edu/buniverse/view/?v=20ZaW9PO  
Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:55 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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That has ZERO to do with the points I made. You kooks with the bankers own everything...what a bunch of loons you are.

Take your own advice and read my post next time. And thank you for wasting my time.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:23 | Link to Comment samsara
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So,  I take it that you Didn't read McFaddens speech?

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:36 | Link to Comment gordengeko
Fri, 04/08/2011 - 17:54 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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"These fuckers at the top are all clueless"

JLee FTW...

Consider that most "Leaders" around the globe are self selecting, self-aggrandizing dipshits. This is true for all human history.

Most human beings are content for food, shelter, peace...some saved up for "rainy days"...to live and let live.

"Leaders" step into the breach, shoe soles slathered in dogcrap, to point humanity to "utopia"...

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:32 | Link to Comment traderjoe
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Clueless? Never underestimate your enemies. They've been at it for hundreds of years (start of BOE). So far they've done a pretty good job...of stealing all of the wealth of the country.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:00 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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Clueless.......YES!   Hundreds of years, lol. Come on.  They cannot dictate control. The wealth stealing started as a consequence to leave a metal monetary standard. Let me give you a quote from Ron Paul - "Markets are more powerful than governments". That should tell you all you need to know.

But you guys believe what you want. Having personally lived under a dictator and tryanny I can promise you the best way to break them is to take away their momey. That's what system failure will do. Free us all.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:47 | Link to Comment r101958
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How about this? Make sure your shelter, water and food are stocked and completely taken care of. Then ensure you have PM's, ammo and whatever else for barter and security etc.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:50 | Link to Comment Buckaroo Banzai
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Good heavens. There is no "secret" conspiracy. The conspiracy is out in the open, for anyone who bothers to look for it. And you don't even have to look that hard. "Hidden in plain sight" is their motto.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:56 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Bill Moyers at the Howard Zinn Lecture http://www.bu.edu/buniverse/view/?v=20ZaW9PO  
Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:48 | Link to Comment gordengeko
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhO--P_tVBQ

Heres another good one.  Thanks for posting

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:28 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Exactly theres total pandemonium behind the curtain. Something big is about to break real soon.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:04 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Yeah, what a jerk. I bought gold and silver when Glenn moved to Fox and he suggested it. (I didn't buy from his promoters).

 

Yes, that clearly ended in tears....How dare Glenn tell me to do that.

 

Look, people gotta use their brains and think for themselves. the rest are just lemmings.

zombies, first.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:50 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Bill Moyers at the Howard Zinn Lecture http://www.bu.edu/buniverse/view/?v=20ZaW9PO  

Howard Zinn tells half truths.. Corporate America is NOT going to let thier strangle hold of "We the People" go short of armed intervention by "We the People"!

All this sit in, hug it out bull shit goes NO WHERE! for the last 30 Fucking Years the sales pitch the Republicans / Plutocracy / Corporations have fed the idiot sheep!

They are taxing the rich to give it away to the Poor!

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/business/economy/25tax.html?_r=3 General Electric $14.2 Billion in Profits, Pays $0 in U.S. Taxes

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=GeneralElectric  $39M Dollar Lobby in 2010 $14B in Profits =’s NO TAXES PAID!

$10 billion sale of F.D.I.C.-backed debt http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/ge-capital-begins-10-billion-debt-sale/

That is one example of the Rich Corporations PAYING NO TAXES AT FUCKING ALL!

and then for the Dumbocrat's!

Obama $656 Million LOBBY Dollars! http://bit.ly/Tu4v Obama Let the FED Print 1/2 a Trillion since Jan 1 2011 http://bit.ly/aBu9yF

Shutting Down a Budget Transparency Tool http://usaspending.gov/ to *Save Money*? How / Where does the Gov. Spend “We the People’s” Money?

Money Passed Out Like Candy 2 Everyone But YOU! $15 Trillion Dollar since 2008 http://goo.gl/TMl74 Money 4 Gaddafi NONE for "We the People"!

 

There is NO difference between the two Party's... I mean they say different shit on T.V. to attract different sheep.. but at the end of the day, Lobby Dollars Rule.. the Golden Rule! He witht he Gold Makes the Rules..

Considering the Taxes are distributed by the Lobby Whores.. "We the People" HAVE ZERO CONTROL!

Dem's! or Rep's! are Evil!! The Two Party System is a Control.. One Left the Other Right and Both ONLY Answer to Lobby Dollars in the End!


Corp's Own the Lobby! The Lobby Owns the Government! Police work for the Duly Elected Lobby Whores! We the People, Screwed!

 


Declining Purchasing Power of the $ http://www.aier.org/research/briefs/1826-the-long-goodbye-the-declining-purchasing-power-of-the-dollar

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/feeling-depressed-27-depressing-statistics-about-us-economy-will-make-you-feel-even-worse

http://bit.ly/h1vIGc United States has Off-Balance Sheet, Unrecorded Debt of 500% of GDP (Forbes)

http://australia.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/IO/2011/Skunked+April+2011.htm Skunked” “Bill Gross” “PIMCO”

 

 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:00 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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http://www.susris.com/documents/2011/110404-bsf-economics.pdf Saudi's spend more $ at home to quell Protests, Hence oil prices go up here!

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 04:01 | Link to Comment ft65
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It's their oil isn't it? They've got it, and you want it. Surely this is simple economics, the market you believe in - unless you are a closet collectivist.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:23 | Link to Comment Head for the Hills
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There will be no Bretton Woods replacement anytime soon.  Such things are done from a position of power.  Note the coincidence of the date of establishment.  July 1944, 3 weeks after the US lands millions of men in France with the intention of occupying/liberating Europe.  Who's to negotiate anything?  The UK, occupied by millions of US forces, France, currently being invaded, Germany and Japan, about to be crushed.  And you can leave out the commies, what do they know about money.

Who is presently in a position of power to change things?  Chinamart, Russia, Occupied Germany, Radioactive Japan, angry Arabs.....

 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:53 | Link to Comment BigJim
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I suppose it could be argued that a new Bretton Woods fiat regime would benefit each country's elites more than a continuation of the current 'system' or a return to sound money.

Not so good for the rest of us, obviously.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:26 | Link to Comment John Wilmot
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A reform of the world order will appear to be a transfer of power from the developed to the developing nations, overseen by the international authorities. This will be easy to sell to local elites in the developing nations. The reality of the reform will be a transfer of power from all nations to the international authorities, which are of instruments of the Anglo-American establishment. Thus the reform will be easy to sell to the elites of the developed world, though of course it won't really have to be sold at all, as it is those elites that will be proposing the reforms.

As for the various people who doubt that the system is organized from the top, i.e. that there is a conscious conspiracy or plan, what can I say? Learn about the history of the foundations and other 'non-governmental organizations' created by international financiers over the last century. One could plausibly argue that the system, though controlled by an elite, is not controlled per a conscious plan - except for the documented fact that the aforementioned organizations do just that sort of planning, at the behest and with the funding of the elite which control the system. 2+2 does it fact equal 4. To believe in this 'conspiracy theory' is strange to you only because you have been conditioned your whole life to looking at reality in a certain way, the way that reality has been presented to you in the media, and in that reality 'conspiracy theories' are strange and wrong by default. Really think about it rationally first, regardless of evidence. If you were a multi-billionaire, with close business and blood relations with a few dozen other multi-billionaires, and habitually made campaign contributions in order to influence government policies for your own benefit, why on earth wouldn't you organize regular meetings with your fellow billionaires in order to coordinate your activities? Why wouldn't you, for example, create a tax-exempt thinktank to determine best practices for accomplishing your goal? You would, because doing so is perfectly rational. It would be shocking if highly educated, cunning businessmen didn't think of this.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 18:04 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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i personally believe that conspiracy theories do exist among self-appointed "elites" BUT they are inevitably undone by human fallibility...The "powerful" are timelessly clueless...

I met a traveler from an antique land 
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone 
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand, 
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, 
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, 
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read 
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, 
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed; 
And on the pedestal these words appear: 
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: 
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!” 
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay 
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare 
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:01 | Link to Comment DosZap
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People in hades want ice water also.

If the Fascist SOROS calls a meeting, and no major Governments Heads come,  he's pissing into the wind.

He is an America Hater, and every 501C3 he funds here, is out to destroy the system that made us great.

He should be banned form any dealing with any US groups, and considered a terrorist.

Because he is.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:10 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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+ $1470, DosZap

George Soros is probably the single most dangerous man in the world today re the USA.  More so than Kim Jong "Mentally" Il-Jong and Ahmadinnerjacket.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:04 | Link to Comment baby_BLYTHE
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Thank goddness Jimmy Rogers kicked that financial terrorist's ass to curb many years before this mess

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:04 | Link to Comment lynnybee
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i have a friend who still doesn't believe me.    we were standing in front of tubes of silver @ the local coin guy when silver was $15/oz.    she told me that she thought it was expensive.   i told her, " but, silver just dropped 25%; it was $21 a few months ago & now it is $15 ...... now do you think it's expensive ?"    I bought as much as I could possibly afford, remember standing at the counter counting out that paper money as fast as I could & RUNNING to my car with my REAL TREASURE.    

Now, a year & a half later, my friend is just kicking herself & I feel happy to own silver.    Dr. Faber's words ring in my ear every day :   "  As long as Bernanke & Geitner are running the show I will NEVER sell my gold (silver for me) . "  

fucking banksters......... i'm sick of them ....... just wait til the average guy on the street realizes that all the money he's saved for all those years for his retirement is worthless .... I see blood running.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:09 | Link to Comment Just Observing
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just wait til the average guy on the street realizes that all the money he's saved for all those years for his retirement is worthless .... I see blood running.

 

Nah....they won't be able to afford the food to provide the energy to riot.  Just like the Russian and Argentian pensioners before them.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:00 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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People are infinitely malleable.

And they are sloths too. They will rather vote for someone who promises "change you can believe in", instead of getting up from their couches and sweating it out.

"Revolution" is a lowly job, like picking fruits and cotton. Let the illegals sort it out.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment malek
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Good to hear that at least one person learned something! And I don't mean that ironically.

It took me half a year to talk my mother into finally putting 10% of her savings into gold in autumn 2009, and if anything, I will hear one day from her: why didn't you talk me into doing 50%?
In other words I wont get positive waves but negative ones.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Things that go bump
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In 2007 I begged my mother to move a part of her meager savings into PMs.  What did she do?  I alarmed her enough so that she took some cash out of an account and put it in her safety deposit box.  

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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+ $40

lynnybee, you have seen perhaps more than most of us how hard it is to run against the crowd.  I applaud your buying PMs as well as trying to help others to see the light.

Only two have taken my advice, yet almost everyone I know well knows my views on gold & silver.  The guy who bought silver: has made out like a king!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:00 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Whenever I talk to people about this, they comment on how things will be alright (they always have been, right?) or how high the price of PMs are 'now'.

I have a large group of very intelligent friends - surgeons, engineers, lawyers... even banking consultants, FFS! And none of them have bought any PMs. It's hard not to doubt your own sanity when everyone you know is occupying a different headspace... but if you start to talk to them about these things, it's clear none of them have a grasp of monetary history, and you start feeling a little better about being a contrarian.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:53 | Link to Comment DosZap
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how high the price of PMs are 'now'.

 

This is pure and simple  patronization.

They are just being civil.They have Zero Intent on buying any.

I would not waste one more minute of your time.

Watchmen on the Wall's are what we are here...........

Once told and explained the reasons for doing metlas,no response from them and  their suffering will be on their heads not yours when the balloon drops.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:06 | Link to Comment lynnybee
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double post / deleted it.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:07 | Link to Comment ietalon
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Here, here bi Job.
Alas another for you Fobs.

Benjamin Banneker (1731-1806)

    A cooper and vintner sat down for a talk,
    Both being so groggy that neither could walk;
    Says cooper to vintner, "I'm the first of my trade,
    There's no kind of vessel but what I have made,
    And of any shape, sir, just what you will,
    And of any size, sir, from a tun to a gill."
    "Then," says the vintner, "you're the man for me.
    Make me a vessel, if we can agree.
    The top and the bottom diameter define,
    To bear that proportion as fifteen to nine,
    Thirty-five inches are just what I crave,
    No more and no less in the depth, will I have;
    Just thirty-nine gallons this vessel must hold,
    Then I will reward you with silver or gold,—
    Give me your promise, my honest old friend."
    "I'll make it tomorrow, that you may depend!"
    So the next day, the cooper, his work to discharge,
    Soon made the new vessel, but made it too large;
    He took out some staves, which made it too small,
    And then cursed the vessel, the vintner and all.
    He beat on his breast, "By the powers" he swore
    He never would work at his trade any more.
    Now, my worthy friend, find out if you can,
    The vessel's dimensions and comfort the man!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:19 | Link to Comment Fractured Space
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24.745 inches and 14.8476 inches

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:23 | Link to Comment Cash_is_Trash
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That's the Fed for ya.

Gubmint incompetence runs deep. Fucking Ben.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:07 | Link to Comment BlackSea
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Yes it's time to quote Yates:

The Second Coming

"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned.
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity
"

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:09 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Best investments are anarchy apocalypse items.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Stun Gun
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"Best investments are anarchy apocalypse items."

Like these? http://www.stungunstopepperspray.com/

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:32 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Well pepper spray and such can certainly be useful, I was thinking more along the lines of semi auto carbines with thousands of rounds stored, water filtration, stored food, books on edible plants in your area.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:59 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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At a gun store in WA state I was asked why I also carry pepper spray: "It's for assholes that don't deserve to be shot. I don't want to go to prison for some asshole."

A can of bear spray is good for a group of unruly people that don't deserve to be shot.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:37 | Link to Comment A Man without Q...
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I thought you were thinking of a different poem by Yeats...

Get all the gold and silver that you can, Satisfy ambition, animate The trivial days and ram them with the sun, And yet upon these maxims meditate: All women dote upon an idle man Although their children need a rich estate; No man has ever lived that had enough Of children's gratitude or woman's love.

http://www.poetryconnection.net/poets/William_Butler_Yeats/3386

 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:53 | Link to Comment gall batter
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in the midst of the chaos, i'll read this Yeats' poem:  

 

   When You Are Old

    WHEN you are old and gray and full of sleep, 
    And nodding by the fire, take down this book, 
    And slowly read, and dream of the soft look 
    Your eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;

    How many loved your moments of glad grace, 
    And loved your beauty with love false or true, 
    But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you, 
    And loved the sorrows of your changing face;

    And bending down beside the glowing bars, 
    Murmur, a little sadly, how Love fled 
    And paced upon the mountains overhead 
    And hid his face among a crowd of stars.

 

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:12 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Very good, thank you.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment malek
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I prefer "The Fourth Turning"

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:55 | Link to Comment DosZap
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A tad OT but infomercial,

Atlas Shrugged part ONE is coming to  Theaters nationwide, I think mid April, or May.

Heard it was true to the Book.

A must see.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:55 | Link to Comment Amish Hacker
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I was hoping he meant:

And no more turn aside and brood

Upon love's bitter mystery.

For Fergus rules the brazen cars

And rules the shadows of the wood

And the white breast of the dim sea

And all disheveled wandering stars.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:12 | Link to Comment ivars
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I think oil will start to go down soon, with money moving into PM. That means, peak for correction in silver and Gold will coincide with next LOW in oil. Which is early MAY, 2011.

So , one more month for silver rally.

Here are oil price prediction for 2011-2012 from february 6th, has predicted 2 peaks correctly already:

http://www.saposjoint.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2626&p=31662#p31662

See the dip in MAY? And here is corresponding ( independently derived) peak in Silver ( it has to be in early MAY 2011, the March 13th graph shows maximum little too early. The value at peak can be close to 45 USD, may be 48 USD):

http://www.saposjoint.net/Forum/download/file.php?id=2673

 

Then, FED will bailout JPM shorts, and silver will drop by 40% afterwards, as it happened in 2008 when FED bailed out Bear Sterns via JPM.

http://www.saposjoint.net/Forum/download/file.php?id=2609

http://www.saposjoint.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2626&start=0#p30486

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:15 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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AH ha ha haaaa whatever spambot...War set to erupt between Iran and Saudi, Japan will very soon need to buy oil hand over fist, and youre calling for lower oil? See ya at $300 soon!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:40 | Link to Comment ivars
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Temporarily lower, only for 1 month. Then it continues its way up, if You have looked at graphs.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:42 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Graphs schmaphs. Charts wont do you any good sailing in uncharted waters.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:05 | Link to Comment ivars
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Let us see. So far they have accurately predicted last 2 oil peaks both in time and relative magnitude ( I made the 2011-2012 oil chart on feb 6th). Global pulse type shock to the system (2008, sept 15th) consequences expressed long term  in widely traded asset prices are easier to predict than any given event cosequences or price shift causes.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:02 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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See ya at $300 one of these mornings soon. Well even at $150 which may be in days time, the wheels fall completely off so whats the point in debate?

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:11 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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"I'd like to send a shout out to all the debt coupon dollar dummies that didnt recognize us playas that have always understood the following...there r only 2 forms of real money - Gold & Silver..."

Fresh... for 2011....You Suckers!!!!!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:18 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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EXACTLY! For all the dollar dummies expecting a fresh round of total bailouts, its OVER! Its not exactly 2008 anymore. No one wants radioactive waste dollars no matter HOW many of them they print! The gig is up!

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:15 | Link to Comment ReallySparky
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I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the folks at zh and Tyler.  Thank you for introducing me to the prinicples of sound money and precious metals.  Cha-ching.

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:16 | Link to Comment Cash_is_Trash
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Stick around, the Hunts brother's high will only seem like a fucking speed bump.

Secular bullzzz

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:16 | Link to Comment Mises
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FSG ... strap it on

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:14 | Link to Comment THE DORK OF CORK
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Sweet Jesus ,

                       its one thing to partially understand these phenomena, its another to see the animal spirits come to life.

Should have bought more silver ...... bought 2 Ozs last week as a symbolic gesture but I ain't buying silver now - Gold is back on my agenda

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Ferg .
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I can empathise . I was patiently waiting for silver to pull back to about $25 during that January correction , at which time I would have given the bullion dealers a ring . Bottomed around $26.50 though and hasn't looked back since . Feel a slight sting every time I look at my charts and see yet another high .

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:37 | Link to Comment THE DORK OF CORK
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Maybe there's a new set of buyers - the clued in bunch in the late nighties / early naughties , the post summer 2008 crowd and now the masses are beginning to twitch.

I am trying to understand the scale of term accounts now - when they mature people may decide they have had enough.

Complete hyperbolic blow off may not be far away given the tiny size of the silver market.

 

 

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