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Tue, 08/18/2009 - 08:58 | 39718 zeropointfield (not verified)
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Reading Bloomberg these days leaves me with the impression that they are clueless most of the time. Everything is 'unexpected' according to them, especially if it's a decline.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:00 | 39719 Cheeky Bastard
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i feel disgusted when i read bloom. they really are morons

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:01 | 39720 Sqworl
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CB: The platform is set...he who pays, picks the content...;-)

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:04 | 39721 Cheeky Bastard
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hey Sqworl; whats the deal with the Taleeb letter; he really lowered himself if he thinks Cameron is the solution in the UK; there are no solutions among mainstream politicians.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:24 | 39732 deadhead
Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:26 | 39733 Miles Kendig
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Yep. two sides of the same iridium coin.  Taleeb stil has to figure that one out, unless his denial stretches that far as well..

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 16:11 | 39860 halo (not verified)
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good point

Tax surpluses is stealing from tax payers. Time to get that money back and force them to lower taxes.

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Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:31 | 39738 Raymond Shaw
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Brown is no prized possession my friend.  But I am not sure about Cameron either.  But I wouldn't mind change in the UK Government.

- Raymond.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:40 | 39745 Cheeky Bastard
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hey man, you know i agree with you; bit its  high time for UK to see some lib-dems in charge. I know its none of my business, but I'm only saying; it would be nice to see a third party running things. oh check out this vid ... Brown's reaction after Cameron confronted him with elections issue ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ba7glghZ4w

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:48 | 39750 Raymond Shaw
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I don't see Lib Dems coming into power unless Conservatives seriously screw up their chance in the next two (they will be re-elected most likely) terms.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:05 | 39760 Sqworl
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CB: just sharing my inbox.  I see that it resulted in a nice debate...;-)))

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:18 | 39729 peoplesdemocrat...
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Unfortunately, I think with Bloomberg, Marketwatch, etc., everything is "unexpected" and they are absolutely "clueless".

Fortunately we can go to those sites for amusement and come back to ZH for actual news and facts.

Thanks Tyler!


Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:32 | 39739 Anonymous
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Most moves in the markets and economy (at least in the short run) are unexpected, as are most news events.

Those who predict any given major event/crisis are generally lucky, in that they happened to be looking in the right place at the right time (eg. John Paulson), and there are so many places to look that it is unlikely any given person will be looking at that evidence at any given time. In hindsight it is obvious where that "right" place to look was and it will seem "obvious" to everyone.

Not admitting that an event was unexpected would be extremely arrogant unless you are a person that specifically predicted it.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:30 | 39778 Raymond Shaw
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So that's what you would say of Mr. Durden and others like Themis who have been unravelling the HFT debacle for longer than most of the news wires and advisory services.

It's simple, people who focus and don't get caught in the misdirection will see the moves happen.  Sometimes we just don't see them because of our particular bias, such as the positive point move in the Indices since March.

Expecting the unexpected is the job of a good trader.  Welcome to ZH my friend.


Edit: look at my discussion with Andy Dufresne under the post "VIX is Screaming" and you shall see what I mean.  http://www.zerohedge.com/article/vix-screaming#comment-39093

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:10 | 39723 Groty
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Art Cashin just said we could soon see "historic trading".  A veteran trader makes a provocative statement like that and Joe Kernan didn't think to ask Art what he sees to make him think that.  He's only been pretending to be a journalist for 20 years.  What a joke. 

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:13 | 39725 Sardonicus
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It is pretty sad state of affairs when a belligerent redneck like walstreetpro has a better grasp of economics than the people compiling and presenting the news.

gawd I love his stuff

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:16 | 39727 Mos
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Why did he mean by "historic trading"?

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:29 | 39737 I need more cowbell
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I doubt he's talking about a melt-up...

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:52 | 39753 Groty
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Here's the vid.  Art did mention the BDI at the end, no thanks to Kernan.



Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:03 | 39757 Sqworl
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Art Cashin back in the day on the floor in the blue room was know only for taking sports bets!  Talk about cash for clunkers!!! lol

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:34 | 39787 MinnesotaNice
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Agreed... "market is ahead of itself" " "historic trading over the next 8 weeks" "potentially a very exciting period" "you can't live by inhaling alone, you have to exhale once and awhile"... and what is this about "worried about going into Ramadan"... what impact does that have on the market?

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:19 | 39835 Anonymous
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Does anybody here receive Art Cashin's daily letter? If so, how?

What is this "esoteric" stuff he is referring to.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 16:11 | 39859 halo (not verified)
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We are repeating (in my opinion, which I have not brought down from Mt. Sinai on stone tablets) the pattern of early July, under the gracious sponsorship of POMO.

good articles; good articles 4 slow news day ..http://www..
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Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:11 | 39724 Anonymous
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"booze, video game and DVD prices rise"

The stay-at-home-on-the-couch sectors are the only ones with pricing power. A sure sign that the recession is in full swing!

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:16 | 39726 Anonymous
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Wow. Only six months for Obama to start floundering.
Partisan muckity muck from here on out.
Perpetual campaigning has rendered Congress impotent.

Who do I see about my redress of grievances?

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:27 | 39736 Miles Kendig
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The person looking at you from the mirror.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:23 | 39731 Anonymous
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Is this less worse?

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:27 | 39735 Anonymous
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From ZH staff to Anonymous commenter:

"Your comment has been queued for moderation by site administrators and will be published after approval."

Ah, very nice. Now all views, opinions, and content will be channeled through the Minister of Information.

"Another Step Closer to a More Perfect Union"
good luck with that

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:07 | 39762 Cheeky Bastard
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create a profile and you can also post nasty shit like all reg users do.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:33 | 39740 Anonymous
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Well, I don't know about historic, but if this green rolls over, Tyler's post on the useless of 10:30 - 3:30 might be an ironic event.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:50 | 39752 crzyhun
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Today is a/may be a dead cat bounce....I got close enough to my predictions to feel satisified. Although, I really rather not experience March again.  

Nobody ever thought that this administration could be this clueless. This in an of itself is a deep worry. Wonder what dearest leader was thinking as he looked at the grand canyon.

This experiment will end badly I am afraid.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:54 | 39755 Anonymous
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"July housing starts of 581,000 down 1.0% versus July..."

- shouldn't that be 'versus June'? That 'deflation' article in Bloomberg was actually better than the headline lead me to believe..

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 09:59 | 39756 RobotTrader
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Keep an eye on this:


Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:13 | 39767 Anonymous
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keep an eye on this AXL.

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:15 | 39770 Sqworl
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Thanks Robot: but still down on the fee from my 1 share purchase...;-(

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:07 | 39821 Anonymous
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Cash for trash rules the equity markets.

Great bloomberg piece:

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:08 | 39824 jdoo
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Accidently tried posting this as anon:

Here's a great bloomberg piece on the 'cash for trash' trend in equity markets


Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:12 | 39826 Anonymous
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There's no article now just a headline that reads: Taking Wall Street Advice in Rally Means Owing $6,000

Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:36 | 39871 jdoo
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The link works for me, however here is the full text in pastebin


Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:26 | 39845 Milton
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I can't believe you missed this one:

Size Doesn't Matter



Tue, 08/18/2009 - 16:10 | 39856 halo (not verified)
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Although it's my hunch that larger price stocks would be more subject to max-pain effect, but I have to test that.

Tax surpluses is stealing from tax payers. Time to get that money back and force them to lower taxes.

good articles; good articles 4 slow news day ..http://www..
hat tip: finance news & finance opinions

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