Frontrunning Today's POMO

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Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:24 | 677193 99er
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But some investors have begun worrying that the market consensus for a big burst of QE may be overdone. This has been backed up by comments from some Fed officials.

Kansas City Fed President Thomas Hoenig called more asset buys by the central bank a "very dangerous gamble." New York Fed President William Dudley said the U.S. economic context would determine whether an incremental or big bang approach to asset purchases was better.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:30 | 677201 unwashedmass
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yeah, some of these idiots are having second thoughts.....could they be seeing the death of their multi-billion dollar gravy train up ahead if they do?

Rand Paul is a total kook .... except...he's one more voice in Congress screaming get rid of the Fed. .... for that alone....for that alone....

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:35 | 677209 HelluvaEngineer
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Why exactly is he a "kook"?  Not that I know too much about him, but that's a meaningless word.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:17 | 677299 tmosley
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It's a word that allows you to write people off without further examination.

Like "nigger" used to be.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:49 | 677232 unum mountaineer
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yeah, some of these idiots are having second thoughts.....could they be seeing the death of their multi-billion dollar gravy train up ahead if they do?

alternatives? you mean run an operation on the up and up? pppffftt

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:50 | 677233 dehdhed
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fed using doublespeak ... probably coming in a bigger way than previously imagined

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:02 | 677261 unum mountaineer
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the ol' goobelygook..its just not for pretending to be a gentle old man...ever watch family guy? wanna piece of candy? It's right in my pocket...hmmm..

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:03 | 677264 dehdhed
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i tried to find a link or youtube video but couldn't.   a few weeks ago, in a bloomberg interview, i heard a fed governor say they absolutely don't want deflation and added that they don't even want disinflation.  my interpretation was wow!, they absolutly want inflation and they don't even want the rate of inflation to slow down.

i think that was the moment of truth, and all this other stuff is fluff


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:24 | 677194 Mongo
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I like the title "Cheapness vs. sector".



Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:28 | 677196 plocequ1
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I feel like im in an OTB. Ill take 200 on Amazon in the 4th, 3 to 1

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:39 | 677213 unum mountaineer
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perfect analogy..all the horse steroids and stable side shenanigans..sadly OTB is doomed too..


I remember, not too long ago if a horse broke its leg or had an unfortunate accident, never to race making was an option..but usually one would put the thing out of its misery..shotgun style, have glue or meat for some other apt remedy for this "market"..

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:33 | 677205 RobotTrader
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There's no POMO today.

Gold and Euro getting slammed pretty hard.

Some big names like CMI down big pre-market.

Looks like we might have topped out today, who knows?

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:37 | 677210 Saxxon
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Who knows.  I took advantage of that pop in gold to offload my remaining DGP.  I'm flat and happy and taking a break for a hotdog and a beer.  Save my seat for the main event - which I have a feeling may get sold.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:39 | 677216 Zeilschip
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POMO still mentioned on their website.. but price action would suggest otherwise I agree. Maybe it's the Euro Sovs (Greece) again?

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:56 | 677246 -1Delta
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Could be right. Using hourly charts, dont see how the dollar doesnt break to the north, and thus, the risk trade could be over.

We have priced in all that can come in QE, and front running (at least now after retail even knows), is probably a good way to get caught.


Gold, stocks, bonds doesnt matter... if the dollar bounces (or mainly EUR and AUD) they all fall

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:15 | 677686 dehdhed
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my guess is the algos have to first test the flash crash in the dollar last friday evening

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:58 | 677252 IrrationalMan
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if the banks think that the market is going down instead of up on a POMO day, what do you think they will throw all of their loose money at?  Proping up the stocks or shorting them. 

Call me an optimist

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:01 | 677258 Tyler Durden
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There is a POMO, but as we noted last week when we noted that Goldman is pitching it to clients as a buying event, it is no longer effective.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:40 | 677214 HelluvaEngineer
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Euro getting whacked, which explains everything else

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:57 | 677251 -1Delta
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yup thats all you need to know in this game

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:40 | 677215 Kina
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JPM doesn't look that attracitive wearing silver naked shorts. Longs are much more attractive, and legal.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:42 | 677221 tmosley
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POMO, cowbell, whatever.  All I know is we need more of it.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:49 | 677231 working class dog
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Banks are crying poverty? worse decade to come in 10 years, sounds like Japan to me.  Also the austrian economics approach to austerity in England, they will lay off 500,000 govt workers who in turn will do what? Go on welfare.

Than they say they will raise interest rates. This will last for about a minute, than they will devalue the pound and hence the horse race to the bottom continues. USD I would expect will rise on the GDP report out of England today if the Pound drops than shouldn't the USD rise. Also I had mentioned the perfect head and shoulders pattern on the DX usd daily chart. If this pattern continues on a retrace, the USD will rise to about 80.10 or so than take a big dump if the head and shoulders pattern continues.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:55 | 677241 Free_french
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I haven't seen any information in ZH about this matter


On Saturday, Sweden's financial watchdog announced it had revoked HQ Bank AB's licence because it had breached Swedish legislation and demonstrated serious deficiencies in its trading operations. The Swedish Financial Supervisory Authority said that the bank “has grossly breached the most central provisions of Swedish legislation” and that “HQ Bank has overvalued its trading portfolio for a long time”.

Swedish investment bank Carnegie Friday said it will buy competitor HQ Bank for 268 million kronor ($37 million). Carnegie spokesman Andreas Koch told AP the investigation would not affect its agreement to buy HQ, which will make Carnegie the Nordic region's leading independent investment bank.


Even if it is a tiny bank... Some countries have some balls...

Hope to see this style news in the US...


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:04 | 677269 the not so migh...
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The Sweds can go Viking and cut off all heads, the US are a bunch of pansies.


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:56 | 677247 primefool
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Sinmce Bennie is so proud that he can " create dollars at no cost , and in any quantity" - someone should parade a few kids in front of him - kids that will die for the lack of a few thousands of dollars for some medical procedure. Wanna pay for that? "At no Cost" after all? Huh?
No no no - there has to be a large segment of the population that is perpetually short of Dollars - preferably on the verge of death for lack of Dollars - thats what gives the funny grren pieces of paper any meaning.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 08:59 | 677254 snowball777
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Dedicated to Timmay, Bennie and the InkJets...

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:33 | 677323 Silverhog
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Small rally in the dollar today shows you even the most terminally ill person can have a good day now and then.

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:34 | 677327 Fearless Rick
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Just noting that yesterday's close was a pretty serious sell-off and that the high for the day on the Dow was 10:00 am. All trading after that was churning, until the last half hour, which was outright selling.

Whether it was machine-based or not, that kind of pattern (early high, late sell-off) is normally a strong sell sign. We'll see if the traders were paying attention. with the Dow down over 60 points just minutes in, I'd say they were.

POMO or no POMO, this market has all the characteristics of a severe bear event. JMO

Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:36 | 677340 bullwhip29
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Not to worry, COH going parabolic this morning. The consumer is not dead...yet. So what if people aren't paying their mortgages, feeding their kids and taking care of other trivial matters like that. As long as I can get my hands on another overpriced handbag or the latest iThingy, it's all good.


Tue, 10/26/2010 - 09:54 | 677401 mjbommar
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In case anyone else got sick of the NYFRB historical data interface:

Data: Spreadsheet of All Permanent Open Market Operations (POMO)

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