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Frontrunning Today's POMO Taxpayer Rape

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Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:09 | 902489 Contura
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Isn´t fraud a felony ?

I tought US were the good guys.


Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:16 | 902520 Sudden Debt
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Even Hitler and Stalin thought they where the good guy.


untill the world turned against them.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:22 | 902547 erik
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That's what I always say.  Do you think the people we call crazy sit around and tell their cohorts "yeah, we're batshit crazy huh?".  Bin Laden doesn't think he's crazy.  Neither did Hitler or Stalin as you mention.

I'm not saying they weren't crazy, simply that they themselves do not (did not) believe they were crazy, they believed they were doing the right thing.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:26 | 902554 A Man without Q...
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No they didn't - they thought they were a hero to "their people"...

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:34 | 902583 SheepDog-One
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Hitler AND Musolini were both Time men of the year. Google it.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 14:15 | 903325 asteroids
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I bet if you asked the average Congresscritter to explain POMO and how it effects the debt you might be surprised by blank looks.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:11 | 902494 Misean
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"before said 300 million finally realize what a complete criminal fraud the PD-FED complex is."

If that were even remotely possible the cost of the blatant fraud would be worth it. However, I suspect that, with all the snow, the 300 million will likely never take notice.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:11 | 902497 Xibalba
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Welcome to the END

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:11 | 902498 Racer
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Keep up the great work TD, We NEED you!

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 12:01 | 902756 Cursive
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Did Japan have anything like ZH? Paging Ron and Rand Paul....

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:12 | 902504 99er
Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:14 | 902511 TruthInSunshine
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Not just "rape," but anal rape of taxpayers, sans lubricant.

Thank The Bernank, The POTUS, and the absent-minded Congress, asleep at the wheel.


Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:18 | 902516 erik
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Keep your eyes fixed on the 20 day moving average in S&P ~1275-1276 and/or a re-test of the 1296 highs today.  Preliminary indicators suggest that 1276 is absolutely in play today, though of course there are no guarantees these indicators will stay where they are right now.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:35 | 902593 SheepDog-One
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Yep, and no guarantee these indicators will not within 10 minutes experience a -40% flash crash.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 12:00 | 902742 erik
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The USD has given back its overnight gains since the open, thus providing some footing for the market.  The rest of the day should depend on if the USD can gain its strength back or not.

On the flip side, believe it or not, the Euro is about to test 1.37 thanks to Trichet's inflation remarks.  Who knew it was that easy?

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:16 | 902522 Robslob
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Until ZeroHedge has it's own TV channel it is not likely to be noticed...

When ZeroHedge does get it's own TV channel it will already be over : (

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:22 | 902544 Hero Protagonist
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There is so much discussion of POMO, I'm wondering if anyone can help this neophyte to better understand the "POMO effect".

Here's what I think I know: A Primary Dealer has a billion dollars in something (let's say stocks) and decides to buy a billion dollars in treasuries. So the billion dollars in stocks is sold exchanged for US Dollars and the PD turns around buys the treasuries in exchange for the Dollars. A few weeks later the fed "creates" Dollars and buys the treasuries from the PD. The PD now needs to place the Dollars somewhere and where ever it's placed has an impact on that market and that's the POMO effect?

However, if the same PDs are buying the treasuries at auction and turning around selling them to the fed, isn't that a zero sum game at least for it's impact to markets outside treasuries? 


Is that in order for there not to be systemic failure the market MUST absorb the treasury issuance and without QE the PDs would be forced to spend a larger portion of their funds on Treasuries instead of stocks, commodities, etc.? Without the burden of treasury purchases, they're free to try and gain better returns in other markets?


Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:31 | 902569 101 years and c...
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Exactly what i've been saying.  The PD's are selling treasuries to the Fed so they can buy future treasuries at auction, which they are required to do.  Without all this money, the PD's are left holding larger share of treasuries and eventually would "run out " of capital and there would be a treasury auction failure.



Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:22 | 902548 MrVincent
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"Fed's openly fraudulent operations desk"


Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:25 | 902553 Miss America
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Can someone do me a favor???

Can somebody calculate what the 2 scenarios of buybacks look like for a $6billion sample? 

Sample 1, showing the POMO of one of the listed cusips that should be bought back.

Sample 2, showing the POMO of PM6

...so I can see what the Net vs Net for the brokers and the taxpayers/Gov't.

I would do the work myself, but I genuinely don't know how the calculations work.  (I can assume, and do my own math, but I'd hate to work with incorrect figures)


Thanks in advance ZH society. 

All the best,

Rich H - Miss America

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:57 | 902733 Miss America
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I guess the way I see it is this: 

It still just amounts to a term Repo.  (as opposed to overnight repo, TD, CD, MMKT)

The Primarary Dealers who are borrowing at 0-ish rates, are just cashing in on the interest float they get...  and this float is the profit.  As to whether they profit/rape us on the higher or lower yielding T's seems minor in comparrison to the overall process of keeping the liquidy machine running. 

The buyback just funds the next auction?  Doesn't it?  (ya see...  my lack of knowing the official numbers and needing to see a sample of the 2 scenarios is why I keep thinking that I am missing something.)

Thanks again...





Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:59 | 902737 Salinger
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Hey MA  good to see you here - I imagine you know that London Banker is blogging again lots of the old RGE group have been turning up there



Tue, 01/25/2011 - 12:24 | 902882 Miss America
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I did not know...   I just checked in there.  Thanks a bunch!!!

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:31 | 902566 No Mas
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Too funny.  The idea that 300 people, much less 300 million people have any idea of what is happening with the Fed is just too funny.  Not to mention that they wouldn't give a damn even if they did.

Here is what is important for the next few weeks.  It is called the Super Bowl.  Now if you mess that up, or take out the funny commercials, then you might get 300 million people pissed off.

But for now, BTFD.  The Fed has won ZH.  Your diatribes are funny to read but in no way reflect reality.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:37 | 902606 SheepDog-One
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'Black Sunday'

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:47 | 902667 Johnny Lawrence
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So, you're saying it's different this time?

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:55 | 902718 ebworthen
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Yes, the bleating and fleecing will continue as long as there is a dog or two but especially food.

When the dogs lose their loyalty and the sheep get hungry the story may quickly change.

The people in the U.S. are like a lazy sleeping giant; once you rouse them and really piss them off it won't just be a bar brawl.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 12:24 | 902883 Cursive
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@No Mas

Was your dad also rooting for the guards at Auchwitz? Go fuck your evil-enabling self.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:31 | 902568 plocequ1
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I guess that means the market is up today.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:37 | 902612 Stuck on Zero
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It appears that between the Government, the Fed, a few Wall Street Banks and a handful of billionaires the United States economy is complete.  The GDP of just this group alone is the largest on earth.  The remaining 320 million people can be made up for with a few more POMOs and Treasury swaps. 

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 11:40 | 902626 RicktheDick
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TD how else is the Federal government supposed to filter enough cash to the banks so that they can continue to adequately prop up the markets...

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 12:07 | 902793 collegepunk
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Yay for all the new jobs we're creating!!!

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 13:09 | 903114 gwar5
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Don't ever stop Tyler. What you do lives on the internet forever. There will be a reckoning. 

The bankers are acting like someone running up the credit cards right before filing bankruptcy



Tue, 01/25/2011 - 14:01 | 903276 tomp1
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Dear Mr. Pitt,


I think your work here has merit - now here is how it is - there is futures talk - which I am pretty good at, there is swap talk which I suck at but am learning. Then there is cash talk which is what I think you do probably pretty well. Anyway if you could enlighten me. When you refer to the spline - please break it down to a 5th grade level - and that's 5th grade circa 1965 or there abouts - not these modern 5th graders that probably think life is some sort of reality show - or will be thinking that way shortly.

But seriously I would like a better grasp on the points you make on POMO. Standing by.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 19:13 | 904327 henry
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That sounds painfull

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 19:20 | 904336 henry
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That sounds painful. ouch

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