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Fukushima Accident Assessment Officially Raised To Maximum, Level 7

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What started as less serious than Three Mile Island has just become as serious as Chernobyl, with the Fukushima disaster assessment having been raised to the highest, Level 7. From NHK: "For a series of accidents happening at TEPCO's Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency of the Ministry of Economy, which released large amounts of radioactive substances that affect human health and the environment in a wide range As an assessment based on international standards of the accident, the worst "level seven" decided to raise. "Level 7" is the same as the evaluation occurred in the Soviet Chernobyl disaster. Nuclear Safety Agency, 12, held a press conference with the Nuclear Safety Commission has decided to publish the contents of the evaluation." Of course, due to the much greater concentration of people, and the far smaller land territory, should Japan continue to persist with "controlling" the crisis with the same success as it has over the past month, very soon a Level of 8 and/or higher may be required. In the meantime, we are getting unconfirmed reports that radiation content in Hawaii milk is orders of magnitude greater than Federal Drinking water limits. While one can bicker over the exact number, it is certain that as long as Fukushima continues to billow radioactive smoke, steam and/or water, cumulative radiation levels, both domestically and globally, can only go in one direction.

h/t John and Enenews.


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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:46 | 1159215 The Answer Is 42
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Amazing stupidity. Amazing complacency. Amazing incompetance.

Not complaining about the market impact, though.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:27 | 1159405 Ahmeexnal
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You are all a bunch of paranoid ladies peeing in your panties over nothing.

Trav7777, a nuclear physics nobel laureate, has assured us that this is all under control.

He said this is a non-event, just like the GOM oilspill. In another month you'll be desperately trying to find another catastrophe to keep your doom-gloom asses occupied.


/sarc off

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:35 | 1159435 PolishHammer
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Deninger said this is nothing and we are safe.  He insisted.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:16 | 1159565 Chumbadumba
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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:37 | 1159649 What does it al...
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The truth is half way in between.

Japan is the most sophisticated nation engineering wise  (Maybe Germany is second, just look at their cars...).  They surivived through the initial 9.0 earth quake, which is about 31.6 times larger than the standard M7.5 in our US spec (Indian point, Diablo Canyon are build on 7.5), but the tsunami has cause some semi-permanant damage in the reactors 1 through 4.  

Talking about black swan... no body knew... 


And now, with it leaking in the ocean, air, and just all over.  The gig is up, concrete is next and I wish the Japanese well.  (Reg FD:  I am short Nikkei, having shorted and made a roundtrip and bought some back in 7800 territory, it is going back down to 8800 for sure!  It dropped 200 today, well on its way, this is a long term play...)

Good luck to all.  We are all indeed a little more radiated!   West Coast, East Coast, Hawaii!!!

This news item is bigger than Libya, Gobago, Egypt and even the debt ceiling...  

Man against Nature.  Man: X, Nature X+Y, where Y is ever increasing... like the countable set toward infinity.



Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:02 | 1160309 moneymutt
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okay for the millionth time, this was NOT a black swan, while the EQ was 9.0 the epicenter was far from Fukushima plant, a weaker earhtquake closer to the plant could have subjected the plant to as much shaking, how much shaking a building feels is not just the Richter mag, but how deep is quake, how close location is to epicenter, and what foundation soil/geology under building is. So maybe a 7.5 closer could have been just as bad, and a 7.5 closer was completely plausible and expected.

Second, the tsunami this size was a well known historical event that scientists in Japan had well-determine was on a thousand year cycle, last such big tsunami was in 800s, so they KNEW for decades that such a big tsunami was 200 years over due.  And it was not just science and studying soil layers and faults by geologists, they had extensive written history of the big tsunami in the 800s, just as Italy has extenisve first hand written accounts of Vesuvius, Pompeii...Last year, Japanese TV show talked about just how such a big tsunami was very likely to hit Sendai. TV predicted but the nuke guys say this beyond our expectations?!?!

Finally, when the tsunami splashed against sea wall it went up to about 45 ft high but the main wall of water at Fukushima nuke plant was likely much lower. If they had a 35-45 foot high sea wall made of back to back retaining walls filled in with very expensive stuff called dirt and horizontal layers of geosynthetics, dirt cheap, they could have largely protected the plant from evitable hazard. Its criminal they did not. Shoot even Diablo in Cali has a better tsunami sea wall and its not in a coutnry that invented the word.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:33 | 1160412 Arkadaba
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They should've had a bigger wall in New Oreleans too - also predicted.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 13:22 | 1162127 Marla And Me
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And that's the catch-22 of proposing a space for free speech: it's really easy for psy-ops fools to derail the conversation with idiotic charicatures of real commenters.  Here is our newest copy-cat - Chumbadumba

Notice that this character was created at least 43 weeks ago, but only started posting a bit over two months ago, which coincided with the return of the real chumbawumba.  I know we all love this space, but when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think that all that the Tylers do is create a pen to direct all the like-minded individuals to in order to make their identification easier.  There are at least 10 similar characters around.  Now that Redneck isn't around anymore, we get that green mouse.  At least Redneck was funny.  The green mouse, not so much.  His M.O. is ad hominem every single time.  Dedicated Trolls are all over this board, just like they are over at the Wall Street Journal (Marcia Crowley anyone?).  Sad...

Although I love this ZH information outlet, I often wonder if it isn't much more than a Langley/Brzezinski creation that the Russian trader Tyler had to agree to as part of his plea deal...

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 17:52 | 1163149 serotonindumptruck
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"Although I love this ZH information outlet, I often wonder if it isn't much more than a Langley/Brzezinski creation that the Russian trader Tyler had to agree to as part of his plea deal..."

If that's the case, then Tyler was offered a much better deal than that Mikhail Khodorkovsky fella.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:40 | 1159634 Landrew
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Sorry about jumping the comments. If you know of someone in Japan please forward them my new method of food safety radiation detection.


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:18 | 1160085 oygevalt
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Physicist in the house looking for scintillator plastic in ~100 gram quantities.  Curious where you got yours.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:09 | 1160061 WonderDawg
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He also insisted that a jet contrail was a Chinese ICBM. He's a smart guy, but not as smart as he thinks he is, and his condescending, cuntish attitude is most annoying. He's definitely got a face made for radio. Still, he makes sense on a lot of issues, but it can be hard to take seriously the rantings of a guy who looks like he cuts his own hair.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:30 | 1159811 trav7777
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go ahead and fuckin panic, around screaming.

I never said what you claim I said, punk.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:23 | 1159964 Dejean Splicer
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:42 | 1160006 Dejean Splicer
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FailedRobot showing Mito is on fire. ~2.0µSv per hr.

1.95 Bq/kg in the water supply

Maximum Spread F achieved.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:26 | 1159968 BoeingSpaceliner797
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Bartender, another vinegar & water for my friend, Trav.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:27 | 1159976 PenGun
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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:47 | 1160016 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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He's just kidding trav. I was worried about u when this first went down, you were on ZH a lot. I know thats not what you said, and the growing awareness of the horror affected al of us. Everybody deals with this stuff in different ways.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:40 | 1160423 Arkadaba
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Sorry Trav, you were very dismissive regarding this from the beginning - I can go back and find those quotes but prefer not to (I'm tired, you know what I'm talking about, etc.) 

Manning up isn't that hard to do.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 03:22 | 1160747 RichardP
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Trav was dismissive of the we're all gonna die mentality and scaremongering.  He said from the beginning that it was bad.  For Japan.  Not for us.  That is still the case.  Trav admitted that the situation might change, particularly if a melt-down hit the water table.  So far, the change that Trav admitted could happen hasn't happened.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 18:13 | 1163189 serotonindumptruck
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"He said from the beginning that it was bad.  For Japan.  Not for us.  That is still the case."

How do you know that it is not bad for us? Answer: You don't.

Perhaps you should educate yourself WRT some basic health physics. You might want to begin with the science of radioisotopic bioaccumulation, then you will be able to offer a credible theory regarding the health hazard level that exists downwind from this accident.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:53 | 1159479 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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We are ALL radiated now:


Drinking Water

Ra. The EPA’s maximum contaminant level for Iodine-131 in drinking water is 3 picocuries per liter.

  • Oak Ridge, TN collected 3/28: 0.63
  • Oak Ridge, TN collected at three sites 3/29: 0.28, 0.20, 0.18
  • Chatanooga, TN collected 3/28: 1.6
  • Helena, MT collected 3/28: 0.18
  • Columbia, PA collected 3/29: 0.20
  • Cincinatti, OH collected 3/28: 0.13
  • Pittsburgh, PA collected 3/28: 0.36
  • East Liverpool, OH collected 3/30: 0.42
  • Painesville, OH collected 3/29: 0.43
  • Denver, CO  collected 3/30: 0.17
  • Detroit, MI collected 3/31: 0.28
  • Trenton, NJ collected 3/31: 0.38
  • Waretown, NJ collected 3/31: 0.38
  • Muscle Shoals, AL collected 3/31: 0.16

In the data released Friday, iodine-131 was found in rainwater samples from the following locations:

  • Salt Lake City, UT collected 3/17: 8.1
  • Boston, MA collected 3/22: 92
  • Montgomery, Alabama collected 3/30: 3.7
  • Boise, ID collected 3/27: 390


iodine-131 was found in air filters in the following locations. In the case of air samples, the radiation is measured in picoCuries per cubic meter.

  • Montgomery, AL collected 3/31: 0.055
  • Nome AK collected 3/30: 0.17
  • Nome AK collected 3/29: 0.36
  • Nome AK collected 3/27: 0.36
  • Nome AK collected 3/26: 0.46
  • Nome AK collected 3/25: 0.26
  • Juneau AKcollected 3/26: 0.43
  • Juneau AK collected 3/27: 0.38
  • Juneau AK collected 3/30: 0.28
  • Dutch Harbor AK collected 3/30: 0.14
  • Dutch Harbor AK collected 3/29: 0.11
  • Dutch Harbor AK colleccted 3/26: 0.21
  • Boise, ID collected 3/27: 0.22
  • Boise, ID collected 3/29: 0.27
  • Boise, ID collected 3/28: 0.32
  • Las Vegas NV collected 3/28: 0.30
  • Las Vegas, NV collected 3/30:: 0.088
  • Las Vegas, NV collected 3/29: 0.044

No other types of isotopes were found in the most recent data from air samples, even though EPA is also on the lookout for barium-140, cobalt-60, cesium-134, cesium-136, cesium-137, iodine-132, iodine-133, tellurium-129, and tellurium-132.

In older samples, isotopes of cesium and tellurium were found in Boise; Las Vegas; Nome and Dutch Harbor; Honolulu, Kauai and Oahu, Hawaii; Anaheim, Riverside, San Francisco, and San Bernardino, California; Jacksonville and Orlando, Florida; Salt Lake City, Utah; Guam, and Saipan on the Marina Islands.

Some of these locations had not been previously reported in EPA news releases.



Ahh, but don't worry folks, its all Cumulative....



Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:12 | 1159746 cheesewizz
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 The full list from the EPA


And still we have our heads in the sand... Unreal

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 04:45 | 1160789 Tapeworm
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I care more about the fluoride compounds in my drinking water. Don't mention the fluorides in all of the water that is used for processing canned corn to beer. My teeth aren't that bad.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:56 | 1159501 Sockeye
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And MSM has gone completely silent. I remember the Chernobyl discussion went on and on. It was a big deal in the press. This one - nothing. Makes me think it's so serious that no one really wants to think about it, or have the public think about it. Yikes!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:08 | 1159534 Backspin
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Very good point, and I remember it as well.  The MSM was all over Chernobyl.  Part of that may have been political - The Soviet Union at the time was the Evil Empire and a cold war superpower competitor, and of course an ideological opponent.  Japan is more of an ally, and our politicians and media are more likely to be complicit with them rather than trying to discredit them.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:13 | 1159549 Sockeye
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The Chernobyl backstory was definitely about the cold war and helps explain some of the heightened awareness and discussion of the nuclear accident. I think as part of the end of the cold war we have become a bit desensitized to the dangers of nukes and people now simply do not understand how bad this is. Without MAD and the cold war nuclear fallout is not top of mind like it was in the 80s.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:36 | 1159631 Vlad Tepid
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Also, the MSM is filled with incompetent boobs, who cut their teeth on white knuckle source material like US Army and Federal Reserve press releases.  Back in the 80s there were still a few reporters who didn't run to Wikipedia at the sight of a four syllable word or digits not represented in whole numbers.

To get good reporting, you need to know how to dig for a story from worldwide contact. The i-reporters can't help MSM out here so they go into the latest breaking headlines about a kitten in a tree in Sioux Falls.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:49 | 1159662 disabledvet
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there's more than one nuclear site at risk.  from what i read in the NY Times it looked like two other sites were "having difficulties."

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:07 | 1160054 Oh regional Indian
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DV, save a few Trobell Laureates here, I think anyone with eyes that see, a functioning brain and a little knowledge of history knew that this was far worse than first, second or even third reported.

For people with a little deeper insight into cycles, it was known that this portended an End of the WOrld as we know it situation. Any junkers coming out of the woodwork, please state yoru position as to why you do not think this is so.

Water contaminated, air contaminated, animal life contaminated, no known solution in sight. We are all, globally, in the grip of a disaster that has no pretty ending.

For those who can tie more than two dots together, GOM was a tell that operation cull was now in full force. Japan/Fukushima is the logical end-run. once the nuclear genie was out of the bottle, it was never going back, not without a fight and it is a fight we cannot win.

Because we only know how to fight fire with fire. What a losing propositiion. Scorched earth battles.

There is no remediating this disaster other than SHUTTING DOWN of all nuclear power, globally, as soon as possible. We can survive with less power. 20%, 30%, NUMBers don't matter. SHUT IT ALL DOWN.

Easier said than done though. We are addicted to electricity. Overconsumption of power. Power hungry, power mad. It's a fractal thing which most folk here will understand, intuitively.

We can slowly pedal back on this, not stamp it out. There are other mitigating solutions, but the screaming cognitive dissonance that comes from their mere suggestion makes me not want to waste type-space here.

By the way, I'd called this on-coming nuclear mess back in June last year.

Free energy was our great industrial century's greatest curse.



Tue, 04/12/2011 - 05:17 | 1160801 Tapeworm
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May I junk you?

 What about clean and unfiltered information by the primaries involved so that we can gage the problems with our own research? The crap surrounding from Chernobyl and now Fukushima has deep roots in anti-nuke propaganda, much the opposite of what you think to be true.


Tue, 04/12/2011 - 11:07 | 1161607 Oh regional Indian
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Tapeworm, to junk or not is your prerogative.

I've been writing about the impending nuclear crisis since June last year on my blog.

I saw this coming. I'm not being reactionary or anythign mongering, just statiing the facts as I see it.

It will be the death of the world as we know it and this is beyond simple facts of radiation, irridiation, poisoning et. al.


Tue, 04/12/2011 - 17:20 | 1163065 d_senti
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I junked you. This is pure hyperbolic, panicky nonsense.

Don't get me wrong: Fukushima is a big effing deal. But it is most decidedly NOT TEOTWAWKI. The only reason you think so is because you "called it" (even though it was something that could not be called in its specifics, so it was dumb luck), and because it plays into your NWO depopulation fantasies.

Again, not saying there isn't an elite - there is. But if you wanted to cull the world, this is not the way you'd do it. With an accident caused by an earthquake and tsunami blowing fallout towards the Pacific Ocean? Please. How about rereleasing smallpox? That'd do just fine. So why hasn't that happened, if they just want to kill us all?

Your hippie, new age gobbledygook doesn't help clarify anything; if it does anything at all, it only muddies the discussion, just like any talk about "karma" for japan or all that BS. Kinda gettin tired of this crap. I'm a devout Catholic; do you see me coming on here and pushing every news story into my religious framework? Cuz make no mistake: what you're doing here is preaching your religion, continuously.

Fukushima will have long-lasting, serious consequences for millions of people (almost all of them in Japan). If things get substantially worse, or go on for years, which is still possible, then yeah, it could have worldwide health consequences. Either way, the economic consequences are going to be massive.

But it's not the end of the world. Really. So just stop it.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 21:26 | 1163720 Oh regional Indian
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d_senti, first off, just give my posts a pass. There are many I disagree with here, I just scroll on by.

Second, this non-financial view matters, in the big picture it's all connected.

And you see what I post as religious gobbledygook? Now that is hilarious.



Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:27 | 1160103 morkov
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remember, remember, Chernobyl was the enemy's nuclear disaster, 3 years later the Soviet block was off. i see RT being very active no this one now... LOL

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:29 | 1160114 morkov
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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:46 | 1160445 Arkadaba
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Write or call your local news outlet whether it be radio, tv or internet and ask them about this story. 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:41 | 1159644 Blotsky
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Well Obama is on it so there is nothing to worry about... move along now.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:28 | 1160125 morkov
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nobody is worried about Obama anymore, myfriend

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:12 | 1159934 True.North
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+ I drink your [radioactive] milkshake! I drink it up!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:11 | 1159937 Myzery
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I'm confused.


I thought there were three seperate signficiant "incidents" at Fukishima power plant, with each blown reactor getting it's own rating.


So, have they all been esclated to a level 7?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:46 | 1159217 Tail Dogging The Wag
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About time!!!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:21 | 1159572 slewie the pi-rat
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hear hear!  as usual, when i put the over/under @ 5X chernobyl by 3.31.11, my timing was freakin abysmal!  how was i to know everybody except a handful of zH's and abt 3 others, arnie included, would be pathologically unable to speak one word of truth abt this disaster? 

5X would be too easy, now, since the soil samples show we're already @ 4X.  but, who cares?  the o/u helped me think and fight abt this horrid event and i don't think i've studied anything this dilligently since my chem thermodynamics final in '66.

living in cali, i've been spending mucho time indoors.  now that it's stopped raining for a while, if we get a hi-pressure system, i'll get out and play, again.  no KI (Potassium iodide) for me.  i've done pretty well w/out this salt so far, and just don't like the sound of it for my body.  so fukit!  i am focusing on chelating vitamins, such as E and C, and have have upped my C intake by 500mgX2/day.  i've never pushed C before, but so far, so good.  my research indicated these V's would help remove some of the heavier element free radicals.  so, for $10, what the hell?

other than that i am doing extensive original research on the the impact of radioactive iodine and Ce 137 on human erectile tissue.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:21 | 1159584 cossack55
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kelp (not from eastern Japanese waters)

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:22 | 1159963 slewie the pi-rat
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thanks.  & for the tumeric, also.  have read of both.  we have great kelp beds off the coast here and out toward the farallons.  i've known fishermen to live on it wih a few rockfish they catch duing hi tide at the marinas.  broke  fishermen.  tying up on credit, getting backers to get back in the game.  rugged freakin individuals?  you betcha!

due to pacific/aka japan current, who knows?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:25 | 1159588 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Try Tumeric, slewie.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:04 | 1160449 Arkadaba
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He needs something! Talk about a poster child for non ADHD drugs ;)

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:55 | 1159681 Matte_Black
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I actually thought you we're being pro-nuke when you picked the line at 5x Chernobyl, and looking to kill the overs. No kidding. 

I have a new-found respect, sir.


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:54 | 1159682 disabledvet
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huge debris field heading your way.  Tell Clint to enjoy Malibu while he can.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:05 | 1159914 psychologicalmess
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this "extensive original research on the impact of radioactive iodine and Ce 137 on human erectile tissue" is impressive--an example of altruism.  i'm sure the Japanese will be most appreciative.  you da man, s prat.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:46 | 1159218 treemagnet
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and people bitch about coal power?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:45 | 1159219 That Peak Oil Guy
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"But this one goes up to 8..."


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:00 | 1159500 Matte_Black
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lol.... no this one goes to 11. Trust me, 11 on this one. We're gonna need a bigger boat.

Seriously though, I'm beginning to wonder now if Tepco actually is hoping that the rest of the world thinks this is 'merely' a Chernobyl when it is actually much worse.

I actually thought slewie the pi - rat was nuts when he set the line at 5x Chernobyl. I picked under. Looks like overs are going to 'win'. Bad mojo.



Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:47 | 1159224 vote_libertaria...
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How long until the Repubs and Dems craft talking points to blame each other for this?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:56 | 1159263 Ruffcut
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The repukes and dumboshits will love it. This way it will distract from our bitching about the ponzi fraud cap markets.

 all pro nukers.... GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:32 | 1159418 LeBalance
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Sorry, Ruff, but the riff of the pro-nukers is to fuck you, can't you feel the love?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:58 | 1159505 Matte_Black
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You sir, are a man after my own heart.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:47 | 1159657 Ruffcut
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Sorry, yes, I feel the love bleeding from my radient heart out of the orifice of my anal cavity.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:09 | 1159928 mick_richfield
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I do feel the love!  It's like a light that shines right through me, warming the very marrow of my bones, staying with me always.  A trillion points of light.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:27 | 1160538 Real Estate Geek
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That's the neutron beam.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:48 | 1159229 drink or die
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They can safely raise it to this level without a panic, now that it is out of the news cycle.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:12 | 1159338 Mentaliusanything
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No its not. I found it in the newspaper, page30, bottom right, next to a photo of a prize winning Iowa pig.

Nice looking porker that.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:17 | 1159357 spiral_eyes
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mmm delicious nuclear pork

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:34 | 1159432 Fenlander
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I think you are on to something, and it isn't good.


Most of the MSM have moved on from Fukushima, and just about no-one in the media cares what level it's at.  So why raise it to 7?  It'll only attract attention.


They raised it to 7 because they know what's about to happen.  It could be higher levels of radiation, or the assessment that they can do nothing about it, or that the country behind the plant is going to be barren and empty of people for some huge distance, or that those only just outside the official evacuation zone are going to die, or all of those and more put together.


News management. 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:41 | 1159454 avonaltendorf
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Ooh no, there goes Tokyo

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:06 | 1159531 Matte_Black
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You could be right. I'm thinking they now realize they've lost the Kanto Plain where a lot of the Japan's food is grown.

Mad moon risin........

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:22 | 1159578 Trillax
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Indeed. My question is, when do the Japanese people get wind of this and realize that the Emperor and his 'chosen few' have pied piper-ed the people off the seppuku cliff -- and what do they do in reaction?

Hunger is a bitch and quite the motivator.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:53 | 1159885 lincolnsteffens
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Can you imagine the tragedy if they have to abandon Tokyo for several years and a chunk of their food production.  If this is not the biggest black swan in the neighborhood I can't imagine what the big mother of all black swans would look like. Actually, I can.


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:00 | 1159506 Sockeye
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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:33 | 1159624 FeralSerf
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It's just The Culling of Humans.  Nothing to be concerned about.  They just need to do it avery few thousand years.  They're looking for volunteers -- about 92% of the world's population should do it.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:58 | 1159902 lincolnsteffens
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Herr Hitler thought it was a good idea to cleanse the planet every 20 years so only the fittest ( Germanic ) people would live. He was short cited and narcissistic because he thought it would be good for the Germans but it is really the earth that would benefit from  a much smaller population.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:47 | 1159230 Sweet Chicken
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I bet this still barely gets a mention on the MSM channels.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:58 | 1159269 Zer0head
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Mon Apr 11, 2011

Japan's beloved cherry blossoms help dispel some disaster gloom

But as the annual pink wave that heralds spring rolled up the Japanese archipelago to Tokyo this weekend, the campaign for "jishuku" lost out to appeals to shake off the funereal mood and partake in traditional, rice wine-fuelled "sakura" parties, for the sake of the nation's psyche, and economy.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 17:27 | 1163094 d_senti
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When people post youtube vids or any links, it'd be nice if they said what they were. Just sayin.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:24 | 1159386 spiral_eyes
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there is a segment of society (keynesian economists, sports fans, drug addicts, people who sell out-of-the-money calls) that seems to honestly and truly believe that problems will go away if you wish hard enough. THE POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING. ugh.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:54 | 1159887 MSimon
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The smart people have taken up drugs. If they weren't on them already.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:06 | 1160056 goldfish1
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Certainly there is immense power in each individual's thoughts, words and actions to influence reality.

The power of positive thinking is not about wishing.

You would do well to explore that which you obviously know very little about.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:08 | 1159541 NotApplicable
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And the band played on...

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:57 | 1159692 disabledvet
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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:49 | 1159231 Broker NotBroke
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I don't even talk to people about Fukushima anymore. Every time I try, I get the "yeah and we should probably buy gold're insane" stare.



Society might deserve itself...

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:53 | 1159251 BORT
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I get the same reaction.  People don't want to hear about anything

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:20 | 1159365 spiral_eyes
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shut up and drink the flouride and take the happy pills and let qualified professionals make decisions for you.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:51 | 1159252 treemagnet
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I hear ya, I'm stunned how nobody cares about anything but ESPN.  Had the same reactions from others, learned to just shut my mouth.  Its must be the matrix.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:12 | 1159331 Truthiness
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I don't think it's that people don't care about anything but ESPN, I think that people are just overwhelmed and under under tremendous stress. There is so, so, so much pain in the world right now - everywhere you look there is some horror show: Wars, floods, earthquakes, radiation, partisanship, subprime, unemployment, inequality, disease, banksters, Bernanke, aging parents, hyper-materialism, and on and on. At some point, people tune out for no other reason than to preserve their own sanity.


I don't want to be an apologist...but we are only human.  

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:15 | 1159346 Broker NotBroke
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Are you and I only human? 

The difference is we take responsibility. We want to know! We take a hit of the horror and ask for more. Are we masochists? probably. 

Is it acceptable to put your head in the sand?

Not when the decisions of the ignorant so greatly affect the lives of the informed.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:34 | 1159424 Truthiness
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Again, my point is not to be an apologist - I fully recognize the problem - I'm merely suggesting that our collective lack of a response mechanism is perhaps indicative of the stress on our sick and broken society. The fact that people have their heads in the sands isn't acceptable, but it's reality...

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:57 | 1159494 cossack55
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Reality is comin' around the bend at 90 miles an hour and its going to run over a whole lot of projecting assholes. 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:21 | 1159958 Bringin It
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Re. At some point, people tune out for no other reason than to preserve their own sanity.

Yet they still show up at the hamster wheel every morning!!  It's the perfect zombie syndrome.  Perfect for the PTB.  The drones are incapable of thinking or normal human function, [eg. safe guarding the children, the children's future].  But amazingly, they still show up at the borg collective to do their borg jobs, pay their borg taxes, kowtow, etc.

Unless there's a radical change in attitude, soon, I'm gonna have to conclude that most modern humans are a most disappointing lot. 

Maybe the spark of humanity has already been bred out of most of the modern population??

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:27 | 1159404 SMG
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+1 Well said.   Reality will come crashing through all that denial in the next few years and there will be no where to run, not even to ESPN.  After this is over,  we all need to pull together, weak and strong and make sure we're never enslaved like this again.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:57 | 1159496 cossack55
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More like a few months at most.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:33 | 1159427 andybev01
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Sorry, couldn't resist.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:30 | 1159977 Bringin It
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Re. Sorry, couldn't resist.  Don't resist. 

Who would junk Invasion of the Body Snatchers?  It's an apt metaphor for our times.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:09 | 1160060 goldfish1
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people are just overwhelmed and under under tremendous stress


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:30 | 1159612 Id fight Gandhi
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Fuck espn. Why would someone waste their life watching a bunch of suit take business and have no skin in the game. I can see if you're gambling but fuck, I wouldn't waste my time with pro sports.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:13 | 1159753 thatthingcanfly
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Last year when my local pro-Baseball team was in the World Cup or something, I told my co-workers the following: "I could sit and watch two Grand Masters play a chess game for hours, not diverting my attention for a moment - even to go to the bathroom - for fear I might miss an interesting move. But for fuck's sake don't duct tape me to a chair, prop my eyelids open with toothpicks, and force me to watch a 'Professional Baseball' game."

It had the desired effect.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:31 | 1159982 Bringin It
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Sports brodcasting in the Homeland is all about the droning promoters, droning on about nothing, so as to not leave the audience with the possible inconvenience of an original thought.

Blow-up your TV.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:54 | 1160600 Drag Racer
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I wouldn't waste my time with pro sports.

Most of the events they air on ESPN are not sports, thay are games promoted as sports.

Now this is a sport.

sorry, can't resist a little team promotion...

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:51 | 1159666 bunnytoujours
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My friends think I must be depressed...

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:08 | 1159739 Matte_Black
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You probably are depressed. Depression is only irrational when it is unwarranted. Personally, I would be more worried about anyone who isn't depressed, given that they actually understand what is happening.

Luck to you. Don't ignore depression just because it is a rational response, though. 

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 01:50 | 1160685 slewie the pi-rat
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well, you decide whether you are depressed or not.  in case of doubt, assume yes.  why not?  i don't do headaches.  once in a while, i get a little headache.  i go lie down until the headache goes completely away.  works every time!  very few headaches.

Fight Club Depression Treatment:  same thing with possible depression.  just go to bed.  when you're sure you feel better, get up!  coupla years, what the hell?  at least you did the right thing!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:06 | 1159922 lincolnsteffens
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ESPN is just a proxy for going to war. People are so frustrated by being controlled more and more every time new legislation is passed that they act out a little while watching sports. It relieves the urge to pick up a gun or a club.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:32 | 1159987 Bringin It
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Sports brodcasting in the Homeland is all about the droning promoters, droning on about nothing, so as to not leave the audience with the possible inconvenience of an original thought.

Blow-up your TV.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:53 | 1159259 drink or die
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I get the eyeroll when I mention radiation (especially in milk).


"No, that can't possibly be true.  There is no reason to panic.  Nobody else is panicking after all."

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:00 | 1159518 Rainman
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None of your friends drink milk anyway...Cheers !!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:18 | 1159571 FeralSerf
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As long as they keep it out of the beer, we'll be OK.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:06 | 1159313 Broker NotBroke
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Why is this ok?

Why do we accept that sheep will be sheep?

Everyone we let walk away with their normalcy bias is a contribution to the problem.

I'm as guilty as anyone of this.


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:14 | 1159759 Matte_Black
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Cognitive dissonance wrote a very excellent article along these very lines early this morning. It is an analysis of this very question. Well worth a read.


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:20 | 1159361 cossack55
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I'm still thinking about the suggestion from another ZHer about taking my Geiger into the supermarket and take readings from fruit/veggies/milk before putting in cart. Might make the local news if they try to stop me.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:25 | 1159394 Kassandra
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Yeah, then someone will call the police, then the police will show up and think you have a bomb or something and then they will shoot you because..well..because that is what happens now. Death by Geiger counter.

So don't do that.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:58 | 1159503 cossack55
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So then, Paul Revere should have stayed home and tapped the keg?


BTW, I'm 75% serious as just to protect myself and kin. Obviously the gubmint won't do it. Kind of like the borders thingy.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:01 | 1159502 serotonindumptruck
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You will likely be confronted by store managers and asked to leave the premises immediately. If you refuse, and the police show up, you should receive one warning from the authorities to vacate the premises, or they may just arrest you.

Might be an interesting social experiment, if you're willing to be arrested for criminal trespass. edit: and/or disturbing the peace

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:00 | 1159522 cossack55
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All advances begin with experiments.  Knowing some of the local LE types, I'll probably check with them first, but I don't think I'll be denied.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:15 | 1159556 NotApplicable
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It's got nothing to do with LE. Grocery stores are private property. If you are doing things that will scare their other customers, then they can and likely will ask you to leave. If you don't, then it's trespass, and the LE gets involved at that point.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:17 | 1159567 cossack55
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Ah, good point. Then can I file for a demonstration permit and picket the store claiming the may be selling radioactive goods?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:03 | 1159710 disabledvet
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i've been thinking of taking mine to Capitol Hill and outside Goldman Sachs.  "Give the suits a little swipe down" just to make sure "it's all good."

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:44 | 1159850 krispkritter
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Get WB7 to create a 'Human Radiation Detector' t-shirt and just walk around making 'tick-tic-tic-tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiccccccc' sounds all day...should be f'in sure to let us know which Cops episode you get tasered on...

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:26 | 1160094 goldfish1
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:34 | 1159423 FeralSerf
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And everyone wondered why the neoconmen were buying ranches in Paraguay and Argentina.  Maybe Bush wasn't as stupid as he looked and sounded.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:27 | 1160104 goldfish1
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So you're thinking haarp or some such?

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 01:08 | 1160621 Drag Racer
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no silly, he's talking about North Korea doing some horizontal drilling and testing their very reliable nuke.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:53 | 1159486 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Naw dude, its called "thinning out the herd".


Darwinism is a bitch.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:22 | 1159585 Trillax
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LOL +1

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:04 | 1159717 disabledvet
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"culling" the herd.  wordsmithing is very important in these matters.  we're "culling" the herd.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:49 | 1159232 Harmonious_Diss...
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No, this is a level 8. Three of the goddamned things exploded. EXPLODED. What the fuck?  How is it not the worst nuclear disaster ever? Oh, yeah, it is.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:53 | 1159253 That Peak Oil Guy
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7 x 3 = 21?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:16 | 1159560 hardcleareye
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Nope, 6 total reactors that could go critical (even in cold shut down they require circulation of cooling water) if radiation levels get "off the chart" and things get "really crazy", plus 6 miles away you have the 4 more reactors at Daini...  so worst case, 10 x 7, 70...

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:54 | 1159676 Stuck on Zero
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Sorry.  Log scale.  Closer to:  7 + log 3.


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:10 | 1159738 Blotsky
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No. 2+2=5

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:46 | 1159859 krispkritter
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You must work for TEPCO?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:28 | 1159358 bob_dabolina
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You don't understand how to manage centrally manage a crisis

8-3 = 5 which is what level it was up until today.

Today is 4/11/2011...4+1+1 +2+1+1 = 10 and if you subtract 3 (reactors that exploded) from that you get 7

And so it was written, and so it is.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:45 | 1159651 Vlad Tepid
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You must be a! Ooo!  Can youtell me what will happen at the end of the Mayan claendar?  <humor>

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:12 | 1159938 Fenlander
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It's like snakes and ladders.  You squizzle down a long snake and start again somewhere near the beginning.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:12 | 1159940 espirit
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Only if you can tell whether it was year zero or year one when the calendar started.  May not want to put off till next year what could happen this year.

Sarc on/off - I forget.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:44 | 1160003 Bringin It
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We enter the plane of the galaxy.  If you look along the plane of any spiral galaxy, you will see a void.  The Mayans said the time will end on the Winter Solstice when the Sun appears to rise in the void, visible as a dark line, running the length of the Milky Way.  The plane of the Zodiac will be (is already ) in the pane of the galaxy.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:52 | 1159233 plocequ1
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Well folks, Its been nice.Just remember this..

Man looks into the Abyss, Theres nothing staring back at him. At that moment, Man finds his character. And thats what keeps him out of The Abyss.. Too late


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:48 | 1159236 ghostfaceinvestah
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"Mother should I trust the government?..."

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:58 | 1159279 Broker NotBroke
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Sure, it doesn't matter if you do or don't, cause the majority does, and they make the decisions.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:18 | 1159352 Mentaliusanything
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Pink Floyd "Mother" - 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:09 | 1159539 Bob
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Busted balls?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:17 | 1159568 The Profit Prophet
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"Mother do you think they'll try to nuke my balls........."

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:30 | 1159608 The Profit Prophet
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"Mother should they build The Wall?........" (affirmative...make it a big one!!!)

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:46 | 1159867 High Plains Drifter
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if your balls got nuked would they turn blue?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:16 | 1159945 espirit
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long "Lead lined Depends" - bitchezzz.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:04 | 1159305 Sweet Chicken
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Mother will they put me in the firing line!?

Or is it just a waste of time?!


*right over Broker's head

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 18:41 | 1159451 Broker NotBroke
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yeah a little...


I was thinking of another artist

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:28 | 1159600 Rusty Shorts
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Van Halen - Atomic Punk


I am a victim of the science age
A child of the storm. Whoa, yes
I can't remember when I was your age
For me! It says no more, no more
Nobody rules these streets at night but me
The Atomic Punk

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 17:50 | 1159239 Montecarlo
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And now, confirmation that our collective 'imagination' is once again, an accurate view of the future... this only means that it will be recognized as an 8 eventually, and maybe higher.  I am only certain that it is not contained yet and no material effort is underway to reduce the radiation spewing from the site today.

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