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Fukushima Radiation Literally Off The Charts

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And so with each passing day the veil of lies at Fukushima is being lifted. For all those who had been scratching their heads how it is possible that Fukushima would have a (very high to begin with) radiation level in the millisieverts if indeed the plant had experienced a Chernobyl style meltdown and "inadvertent recriticality", when it should have been far higher, here is your answer. According to NHK, "a radiation monitor at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says workers there are exposed to immeasurable levels of radiation." Unfortunately for the workers present, the monitor is not being metaphoric: "The monitor told NHK that no one can enter the plant's No. 1 through 3 reactor buildings because radiation levels are so high that monitoring devices have been rendered useless. He said even levels outside the buildings exceed 100 millisieverts in some places." Perhaps it is time for the discredited Japanese government to form a committee to investigate whether TEPCO, with or without the complicity of the NHK, was counterfeiting radiation reading over the past month, and thus sacrificing the lives of the 50 brave TEPCO workers who are committing an act of suicide by continuing to stay at the plant. Who knows: maybe they would have a different opinion if they actually knew their presence there is a guaranteed death sentence.

From NHK:

Pools and streams of water contaminated by high-level radiation are being found throughout the facility.

The monitor said he takes measurements as soon as he finds water, because he can't determine whether it's contaminated just by looking at it. He said he's very worried about the safety of workers there.

Contaminated water and efforts to remove it have been hampering much-needed work to cool the reactors.

The monitor expressed frustration, likening the situation to looking up a mountain that one has to climb, without having taken a step up.

At this point we are growing increasingly more confident that soon we will see a tipping point among the so far very peaceful and complacent population, which will result in unrest and possibly worse, demanding a government that will stop sacrificing people's lives to the "greater good" of market stability.


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Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:14 | 1136297 AC_Doctor
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TEPCO's management should be stripped to their Pingu boxer shorts and locked in the fucking reactor buildings.  WHERE IS THE LEADERSHIP? These trajedy/clusterfuck is going to affect American's for years and we just sit around and take this shit?

Screw the people so that the Nikkei doesn't crash-this is sick fucking shit.  Let's see what the Japanese people think when the offshore trade winds start to blow onshore!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:15 | 1136316 Mae Kadoodie
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Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Japs irradiated Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:08 | 1136551 Ident 7777 economy
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TEPCO's management should ...

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This is beyond ridiculous ... govt should be stepping in stat and dictating the direction to take and then effecting said direction ... our militarily's take-charge attitude when we were doing nuclear cleanup work as a result of unfortunate accidents in the 50's and 60's should be the model (re: the "SL-1 Incident")

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:32 | 1136635 skipjack
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"govt should be stepping in"


Are you a total fool ?  Since when has Japan's (or any other country's) government cared more about the average person than the state of their bank account(s) ???????

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:56 | 1136768 Ident 7777 economy
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Are you a total fool ?  

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Cite me the authority besides TEPCO that could get things done ..

Did you read what took place with the SL-1 Incident?

(No, you probably didn't ... and I suppose you like TEPCO's progress to date)



Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:47 | 1137109 Dental Floss Tycoon
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Gov. vs. TEPCO? You get fucked either way.

Govment does not use KY jelly.  That's about the only difference.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 18:50 | 1138948 PuppetRepubl1c
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As much as people distrust the government there is no avoiding the fact that the government is the only entity with the resources necessary to clean up a nuclear meltdown.  There is simply no other option, whether people like it or not.


someone recently posted this link to the documentary "The Battle for Chernobyl" (which is a fantastic look into the reality of a nuclear meltdown)


if you watch that you will realize the military is the only viable option when cleaning up a disaster of this magnitude.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 19:44 | 1139123 avonaltendorf
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I agree. US Navy + SDF grunts

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 13:07 | 1137616 Milestones
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Oh yea, have the gobbermint step in like ours did in the B.P. fiasco--which still is not over and is still being covered up and we are about to give B.P. another shot at yet another well in the Gulf. Talk about a bunch of imbiciles.

I understand the scale of the problems are not the same-yet, but the routine is the same. The japanese are sitting on their friggin hands just like us. All of us a bunch of bobblehead dolls while the $$ boys laugh.       Milestones

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:41 | 1136692 sschu
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...govt should be stepping in...

No offense, but this is the mantra we will be hearing for the next several years (more or less depending on events).  The crisis(s) has become political, meaning that the people want solutions (budget, MENA, Japan, taxes, etc), and they are demanding that the politicians "fix it".

Of course the problems cannot be solved or the pain to solve them is entirely too high.

Soon the problems will be ours, the people's, and the we will be in the People Crisis phase.  Then we know then end is near.

With credit to another ZHer:

1. Financial Crisis

2. Sovereign Crisis

3. Political Crisis - - we are here somewhere

4. People Crisis



Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:55 | 1136776 Ident 7777 economy
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No offense, but this is the mantra we will be hearing for the next several years (more or less depending on events).  

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Right; as if, TEPCO is doing an OUTSTANDING job huh?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 13:43 | 1137771 sschu
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Right; as if, TEPCO is doing an OUTSTANDING job huh?

Not saying this at all, if you read my post you would get my point.

This is the issues are not fixable given our present approach and the nature of the problems.  TEPCO sucks, but it is foolhardy to think the "government" can fix these things.  They lack the tools and resources, but most important the will. 

In a general sense, people can fix their own problems, maybe by just finding ways to no longer make them problems.  If you ask the government to fix it, I promise you that the problem will get worse, it will cost exorbitant amounts of money and people will get hurt.  A cursory look at our situation exposes this fallacy of government solutions, poverty is the classic example.




Tue, 04/05/2011 - 13:55 | 1137813 kingtoots
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Are you some kind of Guru? This sounds like some kind of New Age cant: "people can fix their own problems, maybe by just finding ways to no longer make them problems." 

What are people supposed to do yoga to fight radiation or something?

Can you be more specific about what your plan is?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 14:29 | 1137976 Zardinuk
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What we need is a dirt bomb, like in scorched earth. Ah damn, nobody has invented that yet.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 17:22 | 1138636 davepowers
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I keep hoping that back in the day somebody like GE had decided there was money to be made (as in govt. contracts to be won and exploited) toward developing a 'busted reactor suppression ' device.

A 20 Mule Team Borax weapon.

Or maybe they just got the contract and the money, but didn't finish the thing.



Tue, 04/05/2011 - 14:44 | 1138037 sschu
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This sounds like some kind of New Age cant

Uh no, actually not New Age, but I used to like to listen to Yanni back in the 1980s.  :-)

The TEPCO/Japan thing will take enourmous resources and effort, and it will fall on the government to make it happen.  But the horse is far out of the barn.  Do you really expect that whatever solution they implement will be satisfactory or effective?

My point is from a larger perspective, one where we stop looking to government to solve our problems, because as the past 100 years has shown, it just does not work.  The die was cast 40 years ago for Japan when they decided to build these reactors on a fault line.  All government regulated and approved. 

Our crime (and punishment) is letting someone else take responsibility for our lives.



Tue, 04/05/2011 - 15:03 | 1138125 kingtoots
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Again, I have no idea what this means, it is some kind of hand waving tautaulogy. "If we don't do bad things, bad things won't happen". That's a heck of a way to run a railroad.

Again, what do you suggest happen in this instance or even going forward? 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 18:18 | 1138852 sschu
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Again, I have no idea what this means, it is some kind of hand waving tautaulogy. "If we don't do bad things, bad things won't happen".

The only entities big enough to "do something" about Fukushima are governments.  But the governments had a serious hand in creating this mess by regulating and approving the project.  So do not expect the governments to do any better in the disaster cleanup phase of this project.  Not sure why this idea is so difficult to grasp.

Also, not trying to be trite or insulting, but maybe take a peak at the original founding ideas of the US and realize how far we have strayed from this path.  Personal responsibility, freedom, limited government, decentralized control and true capitalism (not the crony capitalism we have now) will provide much better results over time. 

Yes, yes, we know, the journey has been less than perfect.  Maybe pick up a Bible and read about Adam, it just might give some insight into the nature of man.  But as is often the case, the perfect is the enemy of the good.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 19:16 | 1139018 kingtoots
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I give up. I'm sorry but this makes no sense to me. I'm having difficulty grasping what you are saying because it is nihilistic. You appear to state that all action will fail. If you go into life like that, I pity you and I don't want you in my platoon. I like can-do kind of people.

I think you mean "peek" and not "peak".

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 19:58 | 1139169 sschu
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... this makes no sense to me ...

I suggest the Bible and the US Constitution plus the founding documents and you cannot grasp them?  These are anything but negative and discouraging references.

Not sure what else to suggest, but best of luck on your search for the truth!



Tue, 04/05/2011 - 22:11 | 1139496 kingtoots
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I suppose it is a sign of our times that when I ask for possible solutions to a nuclear disaster, people recommend the Bible and the American Constitution and tell me to look for the "truth".

I'm an engineer. I'll stick to a book on nuclear engineering and project planning, thanks.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 10:53 | 1140839 sschu
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... I'm an engineer ...

Gosh, I would have never known.  I likewise have an engineering degree and actually practiced the trade for a number of years.  Speaking as one and in my experience, engineers are unique in their simultaneous brilliance and foolishness.  :-)

You frankly missed the points of my posts entirely.  There will be a "solution" to the Fukushima situation, it will entail some complex and elaborate technical plans and will will be effective in reducing (but not eliminating) the effects of catastrophic and ill advised decisions made over the last 40 years.  The engineers will do a good job and their efforts will be appreciated.  Governments will get involved and make the process slower,  much more expensive and will extend the effort for decades, because that is what governments do. 

If you want to call this a "solution", so be it.

The answers to our problems are not in government, quite the contrary.  Hopefully someday you will open your eyes a bit.

I am done with this discussion, best of luck!   





Tue, 04/05/2011 - 15:57 | 1138354 naughtius maximus
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ZH talks about the fukushima 50. The soviets used 500,000 men (ten thousand times the manpower) to stabilize the chernobyl powerplant. That is what it is going to take and obviously Japan does not have the will the soviets had. If this was happening where I live I'd be volunteering for the stablilzation task. This is my home, our land, our lives and the lives our our decendants. It would be dishonerable to just do nothing.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 15:23 | 1138206 RonnieHonduras
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Let's just cut to the chase:  Governments of the world provide cover for the TEPCOs of the world, assuring us that the regulators are on the job, while the TEPCOs do as they will by plowing $$$$$ to the governments who accept quid-pro-quo the cash for a blind eye.


That is the nature of governments.  People trust them too much.  Trust but verify does not work with governments who don't want anything about their inner workings disclosed. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 17:03 | 1138571 anonnn
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 Well, TEPCO did say readings were "over" 1000 millisieverts, etc.

Is TEPCO still partnering in building the new Texas nukes? They were touted as leaders in personnel training and safety based on Japanese obedience and Emperor worship and Royal Wedding artifacts.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:11 | 1136869 Rossalgondamer
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Smothered and Covered in less than a month.

1)I do not advocate bunker buster technology. Sappers are more accurate.
2)Remove as much intact spent fuel to Mushu
2)Load the site with surface boron before the shot if you like.
4)Yes water will initially flood the new tidal basin(s) - cooling and coverage
5)Start dike /seawall containment and surface-cap mitigation

The blast covers the site while dropping it below the waterline - minimizing contact and flows. You can then remote-float pre-positioned barges over the ponds to deliver concrete. The USDOE nuke computers can match seismology/geology/pyrotechnics to avoid ripping japan in two - maybe?

Plowshare it now - or - keep pissing on it for a decade (or two....)

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 14:36 | 1138001 Zardinuk
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You know it's actually worth considering a nuclear bomb a few thousand feet below the reactor. It is already going to ruin the groundwater, might as well deal with the atmospheric radiation, this video ough to demonstrate what I mean well enough:

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:57 | 1137185 US Uncut
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Video showing 5 & 6. Watch man cry.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 14:52 | 1138055 Homey Da Clown
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Plan to cover Fukushima reactors with sheets will not happen until September at the earliest — Trying to stem “possible surges in radiation levels or further explosions”

A plan to cover damaged reactor buildings at the crisis-hit Fukushima nuclear plant with special sheets to halt radiation leakage cannot offer a quick remedy, as the sheeting will be installed in September at the earliest due to high-level radioactivity hampering work at the site, government sources said Tuesday. …

They said workers need to wait until radiation levels drop at the site, where hydrogen explosions have blown away the roofs and upper walls of three reactor buildings. …


SHEETS????? That's their plan? We're doomed.



Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:15 | 1136307 Herman Strandsc...
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I'd be crying if I lived there with my wife and children. Then I'd get angry if we were too late to be evacuated - at Tepco expense. If you have lost everything then you have nothing more to lose and you lose it.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:39 | 1136668 MJ
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Good thing there aren't many guns in Japan (at least for the clowns in gov't).

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 21:13 | 1139363 StychoKiller
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Still a crapton of long cutlery in Japan...

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:35 | 1137025 tsx500
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G Celente

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:13 | 1136315 yabyum
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They have to lie. To tell the truth would cause  panic in the streets, and would be a swift kick in the balls for their economy and others (USA)

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:59 | 1136502 writingsonthewall
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...but only the stupid believe that hiding from your problems actually solves them!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:48 | 1136719 Ethics Gradient
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It solves the problem of where to put the refugees: leave them at home so they don't become refugees....

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:23 | 1136327 Serfs Up
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I love the approach you are taking.

And if you make it 180 days, and I'll like it even better.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:25 | 1136353 umop episdn
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Thank you for your humorous response to the worthless and likely paid-for post above yours. It was much better than my response! I certainly hope that 'person' learns about grammar and syntax during their absense as it is quite difficult to imagine a person with a triple-digit IQ making so many mistakes. This degrades the non-credibility of trolls everwhere even further.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:25 | 1136367 cossack55
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I think he has typo problems. His moniker was supposed to be IQ 14.5

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:59 | 1136497 TerraHertz
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Nah, it's just the usual units/milli/micro confusion. IQ0.000145

All those zeros, so confusing.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:44 | 1136440 TruthInSunshine
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IQ -45 has obviously already been exposed to exceedingly high levels of radiation, as it has caused his tongue to become forked.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:03 | 1136528 medicalstudent
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denial is initial.


then anger...


then... who cares. this is effed.


cognitive resources should need to be used constructively. lets find a way to absorb those neutrons. the north american grain belt is at stake, the worlds food supply.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:42 | 1136696 goldfish1
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save yourselves!


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:45 | 1137501 DoChenRollingBearing
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Southern Hemisphere.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:23 | 1136330 Serfs Up
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<Dupe Post>

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:29 | 1136380 Bicycle Repairman
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"See you in ninety days."

Does unemployment pay better than your pro-nuclear bot gig?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:35 | 1136403 Caviar Emptor
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How bout some milk and sushi for your lunch? A reactor in your backyard? 

Don't be fooled. US media is on a near bad-news-blackout since 9/11. You have to get the real story from foreign news sources. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:46 | 1136446 Imminent Crucible
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Sad to say, the UK Guardian is far more reliable than our corporate-shill media.

And that's for coverage of U.S. news.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:49 | 1136431 AN0NYM0US
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IQ you're less than a week away from your one year anniversary here at ZH and you post a comment like that. I wouldn't be surprised if TD takes you off the free ZH Tee Shirt list that we all receive on our one year anniversary.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:44 | 1136697 Vernon Wormer
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Really? We get a shirt?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:07 | 1137264 TerraHertz
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Sure! Why do you think you needed to give your postal address when signing up? You did, right?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 15:02 | 1138105 mick_richfield
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Mine was signed by Marla.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 16:02 | 1138364 tj3
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Mine had a coffee stain on it. Won't come out either.

So I just wear it as a knight shirt.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:26 | 1136594 Bastiat
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by IQ 145
on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 23:48

No one is gambling anything; you are so far from understanding anything; it's just amazing. The very small quantities of radioactive gases released were released deliberately; there is no on-going problem; none, whatsoever. It's too bad the operators were so paranoid about meaningless releases of gases into the atmoshere, that they allowed an explosive mixture of hydrogen and air to exist in the building; this will cost the power company some bucks; it means nothing for public health

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:16 | 1136880 AnAnonymous
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No one is gambling anything; you are so far from understanding anything; it's just amazing. The very small quantities of radioactive gases released were released deliberately; there is no on-going problem; none, whatsoever. It's too bad the operators were so paranoid about meaningless releases of gases into the atmoshere, that they allowed an explosive mixture of hydrogen and air to exist in the building; this will cost the power company some bucks; it means nothing for public health


Too many loops to jump through. It means nothing for public health. It depends on what could mean something for public health etc


This event is certainly not an a "no tomorrow" event. Sizing everything to "no tomorrow" events certainly allows to perceive a lot of events as meaningless.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:00 | 1137179 US Uncut
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I think that you are misunderstanding. Entirely. Small quantities do not equal CONTAMINATED milk in Washington, California, Arizona. Small quantities do not equal affected seaweed in British Columbia. Small quantities do not equal picking it up in Europe.   Since reactors 5&6 are now being flooded and are cracking, when they were not operational, and they have fuel rods pool storage, and the TEPCO announcer CRIED while he brought us this news... I think you are seriously misdirected. When a STANFORD guest lecturer indicates that this nuclear disaster is one of the WORST DISASTER MAN HAS EVER SEEN, then you my friend, have taken a wrong turn. 


Chernobyl stayed on land. This is going to contaminate the entire Pacific Ocean. The entire Alaskan fishing industry. Rivers where fish swim upstream to spawn. WHY? Because there is NO 500k workforce working to stop this. Russia could order that many and more to deal with Chernobyl and it still took 7 months of grueling non-stop labor to stop that. And parts of the EU are still contaminated. 

But here, we have SIX reactors in dire straights, NO labor stopping it, MASSIVE dumping into the sea....

Bur you are right. Means nothing for public health. /sarcasm.

You are a fool.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:04 | 1137242 tj3
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Thanks for reposting IQ ???'s troll post.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 17:01 | 1138565 Bastiat
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Yes, I copied and save it at the time, rather than rant in response.  I thought it might be worth reposting from time to time. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:19 | 1136596 M2Market
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Sure.  Spend your ninety days on a fishing trip around Fukushima.  Try the seafood.  Bring a cookbook.  All the radioactive talk is just "utterly delusional".  Your words, not mine.  Show us the meaning of "how crazy this all was". We'll be happy to see that this is nothing but a bad dream, and denial is a river in Egypt. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:04 | 1136818 MaHatma Coatma
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I'm with you IQ 145.  I'm a big fan of ZH but most of these comments are just crazy, irresponsible tin foil hat stuff.  It's almost bad enough to make me re-evaluate some of the PM advice I get here.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:16 | 1137327 TerraHertz
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No really, it's true. You _should_ re-evaluate, and not buy any silver or gold. Show some national pride and buy government bonds.

Anyway, I see you've got your hat and coat, door's over there.

Oh and btw, your nic is a dead troll giveaway. But you don't understand why, do you?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:35 | 1136325 TruthInSunshine
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Wait! What about that MIT Professor and so-called expert on all things nuclear (since he apparently worked for Siemens and the nuclear industry, too) who said that there was nothing to worry about, in his quaint letter?

Oehmen's take away from the Fukushima Disaster (as repeated by nuclear industry trolls all over the web): "I repeat, there was and will *not* be any significant release of radioactivity from the damaged Japanese reactors."

MIT Damage Control and Josef Oehmen's “Why I Am Not Worried” About A Radiation Disaster in Japan


And a genuine hat tip to Zero Hedge for being in front of this, and accurate on it all the way through, even in the face of Operation Sock Puppet and Operation Nuclear Industry Irradiated, Glowing Sock Puppet.

The Main Stream Media is the biggest pile of epic fail ever devised, with the possible exception of the governments from which they directly source (and blindly repeat) their stories.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:41 | 1136427 MarkD
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Ya but how many idol Americans watched Bill Douchebag O'Reilly interview his expert on the matter......ANN COULTER: Don't Believe The Experts, Radiation Is Actually GOOD For You


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:20 | 1136600 MilleniumJane
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And a genuine hat tip to Zero Hedge for being in front of this, and accurate on it all the way through, even in the face of Operation Sock Puppet and Operation Nuclear Industry Irradiated, Glowing Sock Puppet.


A resounding amen to that!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:17 | 1136331 Big Corked Boots
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Form a committee to investigate?

Form a firing squad to instill responsibility and justice.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:22 | 1136337 Theta_Burn
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How about a tipping point of the so very silent world body?

Whats with the loyalty to this utter ineptitude at this point in and outside of Japan?

Far to many soiling themselves for someone NOT to be asking for ass-wipe.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:22 | 1136345 Roger Knights
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Seeking Alpha (excerpts):

"Japan's Fate Subject to the Winds" at

"What has struck me as strange in this crisis is the lack of aggressive attack from the get-go. The more aggressive you are during the early stages, the more options you are able to create to mitigate a nuclear event – and a boiling water reactor’s failure tree is slow moving. Do not believe because there are not daily events to watch that technicians are getting a grip – this is the nature of this beast."

"If the winds decide, the highly populated areas further south in Japan could be subjected to lethal levels of radiation. Japan’s future is literally resting with the winds. No country will accept radiated shipments coming from Japan."

"The ability to transfer power between zones is limited to 1 GW through frequency converters. This is literally nothing when you consider total generating capacity is 81 GW in the 50 hz zone where the damaged power plants lie. This electrical distribution problem will not go away in 6 months."

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:25 | 1136366 Tyler Durden
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This is precisely why on March 15 we posted an interactive Japanese wind map.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:48 | 1136720 goldfish1
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Very interesting reading the comments of the shills on that article on March 15.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:43 | 1136703 avonaltendorf
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Sinking Alpha woke up? Holy moly, what next? Reuters?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:09 | 1136841 Whats that smell
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Why would anyone believe Hansen? He is an engineer,  and is obviously lacking in any kind of PR training.

Now take this glass of kool-aid and go sit down with your friends.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:24 | 1136359 Caviar Emptor
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This is a good example of a country willing to sacrifice its citizens in order to keep its stock market and elite corporatists afloat. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:38 | 1136418 youngman
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They have been sacrificing their people for a long time...look at supplies..fight to the death...

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:38 | 1136420 Duuude
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"This is a good example of a country willing to sacrifice its citizens in order to keep its stock market and elite corporatists afloat." mean this this.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:51 | 1136739 Clockwork Orange
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Same as it ever was.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 21:21 | 1139373 StychoKiller
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And you may say to yourself:  My God!  What have they done?!


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:24 | 1136360 serotonindumptruck
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It has been pointed out that with the Chernobyl disaster, the Soviets had the ability to force people to respond to the incident. Granted, the ignorance factor on the part of the workers to the radiation danger was helpful to the PTB in the Soviet Union, although the choice between performing a "patriotic" duty or being shot for disobediance was no doubt a factor, at least on some subconscious level.

The Japanese government does not have the ability to force workers to respond.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:33 | 1136389 Theta_Burn
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Not force, but like i said before, just ask for help. usually when tragedy strikes any country offers of help come pouring in

I'm not seeing that in this case. very strange.

A case of Japanese pride? we'll all suffer as a result

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:21 | 1136597 bob_dabolina
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It was half force and half ignorance about radiation. That was the saving grace for Chernobyl.

Japan has no such luxury

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:26 | 1136362 Filthy Rotter
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From what I understand, there are a LOT more than 50 workers on-site.  They go at it in shifts of 50, but I believe there are well over 300 workers on-site.

Hollywood may title the film "The Fukashima 50," but there are many more accepting their inevitable fate.  Personally, I wouldn't say they care what the readings are; they have accepted a one-way ticket, and will do all they can for their families, countrymen...and those/us beyond.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:28 | 1136376 cossack55
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By 2012 the title will be "The Fukashima 5,000,000,000"

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:23 | 1136606 equity_momo
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They need The Fukashima 500,000 if they want to preserve their central island as a habitable place (or the Philappines and West Coast of America for that matter)

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:27 | 1136365 Global Hunter
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In regards to your last paragraph, yes I think so and yes I hope so.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:28 | 1136371 LoneStarHog
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How can any of this be factual?  Has no one read Karl Douchenger's arrogant missive - published just after the start of this incident - that HE was setting the RECORD STRAIGHT...that HE was telling people THE TRUTH...that HE has the facts/answers...that HE removes all the hyperbole...that HE should be followed...that there was COLD SHUTDOWN and the "WORST WAS BEHIND US"...All you fools who believe all these current hyperbole reports and ignore The Almighty Karl Douchenger.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:33 | 1136395 taraxias
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He is a douchebag, why anyone bothers to even visit his site anymore is beyond me.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:40 | 1136419 Trillax
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Ah yes, Karl.  The unending font of spewing hubris that is the ego-machine of KD.  One can only take so many 'smilies' of 'I told you so' before wanting to just repeatedly cut yourself with the nearest convinent sharp object...

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:41 | 1136684 Ruffcut
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The fucktard is a legend in his own mind. I got the boot, but had no star status. Like I would pay to read his spew and videos in front of the local school board. He talks of fear mongering when he causes shitloads of fear that the market is going to crash and when his spew is near accurate, he goes "I told you so".

He is probably the troll that visits here.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:51 | 1136473 trav7777
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bbbbut...bbbbut...he's been on TV!!!!!

I wonder how many bans he dished out for those who even questioned the certainty of his claims.

I'd never go out on a limb like that where credibility is concerned.  There was always the possibility here of serious radiation release.

It's been deductively clear for some time now that the coolant loops in both the reactors and SFPs are open.  Without a closed cooling loop, there is no such thing as a stable situation.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:07 | 1136543 Spalding_Smailes
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Trouble at Fukushima reactors No. 5 and 6 — Cracks are allowing in radioactive water that could destroy emergency generator and other vital equipment (VIDEO)

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:23 | 1136583 Ident 7777 economy
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Cracks are allowing in radioactive water that could ...

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Well, those those two 'sets' of facilities (Fukushima I Rx 1-4 and Rx 5-6) share the same little protected 'bay' or breakwater area that cooling seawater is drawn from (and I assume some radioactive 'water' is leaking into) ... so it would figure ...




Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:41 | 1137487 jomama
Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:15 | 1136582 Homey Da Clown
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The best was when he voted for Obama because McCain's campaign wouldn't "listen" to him. What a friggin meglomaniac. Of course he when people call him out on how much of a douche he was for voting for Obama, he threatens to ban them.

Let's see how he tap dances out of this one.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:32 | 1137413 The Profit Prophet
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Still can't eat the crow pie Trav?.....and now calling the kettle black????...unbelievable!!!!!!!!

T.E.I.N. everyone!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 16:57 | 1138550 Matte_Black
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Trav has made full disclosure that his view of the situation has evolved to a more pessimistic view based on continuing events. He also has moderated his analysis and comments to reflect this view in obvious ways, and for some time now.

It seems unhelpful to keep the flame war going. What reason?

Just sayin...

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:41 | 1137048 Meridian
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...and don't forget about how completly wrong he was about PM's. You couldn't even mention them in breaking news without getting banned.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 14:07 | 1137869 indio007
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+1 He is an  douche. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:30 | 1136372 TruthInSunshine
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I'm no expert or Josef Oehmen, but -

"[i]mmeasurable levels of radiation" & "radiation levels are so high that monitoring devices have been rendered useless"

- shit is getting real.

How long before Tokyo area tap and storm water is glowing?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:36 | 1136412 Bicycle Repairman
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Given the level of lies, it is easy to believe that the threat to Tokyo is far greater than is being reported.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:27 | 1136624 TruthInSunshine
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I'm no Karl Denninger, TEPCO genius or Josef Oehmen, but I wouldn't go anywhere near that region, let alone Japan or Tokyo, for all of Buffett's ill-gotten gains.

By the time this critically wounded, atomic clusterfockmonstrosity has been bleeding and belching copious amounts of fuk-u-up radiation for...months and years...we'll be lucky to not have profound impacts over here.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 21:26 | 1139388 StychoKiller
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Pegged meters!  NOT GOOD, Bitchez!

How many neutrons can one man stand, before he begins to glow?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:30 | 1136375 AC_Doctor
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10,000 extras to play the Fukushima 50...


Karl Doucheinger needs to stick to financials...

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:27 | 1136379 sangell
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Birds can ( and are) entering the reactor buildings. Gulls are flying overhead. Rodents, stray pets and any other non human creature is free to travel at will in and out of the reactor buildings. No one is going to stop them. Then where do the 'hot' animals go? Does the gull who dined on a dead fish stop defecating on cars? Does the cat who catches a mouse carry a geiger counter? I don't think so.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:16 | 1136578 medicalstudent
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nor are the fish stopped.


poison released into the blood, it takes many seconds before all cells interact with this poison.


enough radiation in the food chain seems the surest way to kill everything.


the bankers days are numbered and they know it. the most concerning human logic in this situation is 'if they take my power away, ill make sure we all go down together.'


could greed be our extinction event?


apocalyptometer rising. 38.50.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 21:25 | 1139394 StychoKiller
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Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:30 | 1136383 Ruffcut
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Recruit all the pro nukers and have them go clean it up. This way they show their un dying support for the industry.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:46 | 1136434 nonclaim
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Nobody will defend a profitable idea with their lives.

Despite the sophistry of your argument (taken to the limit, you'd be still an ape) I like this idea. They must have a share in the cleaning up, preferably before the typhoon season.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:30 | 1136387 DonnieD
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I'd be interested to know the migration patters of tuna and other fish that are caught off the Japanese coast.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:36 | 1136414 strenue
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It is not good at all for the PNW. Tuna spawn in the undersea canyons off Japan, and then migrate to other parts of the Pacific. And salmon, well, salmon live out in the ocean for 4 years, and then migrate to spawn and die in the forest streams and creeks. Their decomposing bodies are a critical source of nutrients for the entire ecosystem, a critical source of nitrogen and phosphorus. Nothing like a little C-134 or worse with your fertilizer.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:45 | 1136441 Josh Randall
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D@mn - thats the scary stuff - ecological chain reaction is going to be a barrell of monkeys for a long time. Wonder what the US Patent office is sitting on with regards to de-nuclearizing agents or technology. If not, it's time to grow your own farm fresh Salmon using pre fall out eggs

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 15:13 | 1138168 LookingForTruth
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As the radiation begins to kill off fish / sealife, won't those dead, irradiated fish begin to wash up on shore someplace?  How to clean up thousands of dead, radioactive fish when they begin to wash up on the beach...

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 16:04 | 1138367 goldfish1
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High level of cesium detected in sand lances

Small fish caught in waters off the coast of Ibaraki have been found to contain radioactive cesium above the legal limit.

Ibaraki is south of Fukushima prefecture, where the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is located.

Ibaraki Prefecture says 526 becquerels of radioactive cesium was detected in one kilogram of sand lances. The acceptable limit is 500 becquerels. It is the first time that higher-than-permitted levels of radioactive cesium have been found in fish.

All local fishery cooperatives in the prefecture have agreed to suspend sand lance fishing at the request of the prefectural government.

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 18:58 +0900 (JST)


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:39 | 1136421 Bicycle Repairman
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romanko, why don't you get a mop and pail and go clean it up?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:39 | 1136423 LoneStarHog
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Then why don't you go to Japan as a volunteer and make it FIFTY-ONE?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:40 | 1136428 strenue
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Source of data - NHK. How is that hype?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:43 | 1136439 sangell
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Godzilla eggs may not be hatching but its spring in Fukushima and other animals eggs are. Fish are swimming in the ocean bound for parts unknown. Some will sicken and die from the pollution. They will wash ashore far from the contamination zone. Gulls will eat the carcass. The gulls will fly off and they will defecate. Some of them will defecate on a car. The owner will wipe the filth from his vehicle and toss the paper towel in his garbage can. The radiation is leaving that plant on the wind, in the waters and the bowels of animals.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:50 | 1136458 TruthInSunshine
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Romanko & IQ-45 are clearly artificial (and lacking in) intelligence entities, because even the most dumbass human beings would be too ashamed to peddle that level of bullshit.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:17 | 1136591 romanko
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no, we're real, but just not part of the ZH Fukushima-doomsday-cult.

Look at the responses on this thread, any disent to the accepted dogma is treated as heresy, this is typical cult like behaviour.

I'll listen to facts, not frothing-at-the-mouth "end is here" fanaticism.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:30 | 1136616 bob_dabolina
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Yup. This situation is no big deal.

Just hysterical cult followers.

Break out the black Nikes and kool aid bitchez!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:29 | 1136630 TruthInSunshine
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Ahh, he's just an average troll, and not even a humorous one.

Give us something to really laugh at, Romanko, as Hairy Wang so often does.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 13:16 | 1137647 WaterWings
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Ready. My Kool Aid looks seems to glow. I think the flavor is, Electric Tsunami.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 21:32 | 1139405 StychoKiller
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"POMO-ADE, the Growth Thirst Mutilator - Rich in "electronlytes".  Pour it on everything and watch it

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:31 | 1136644 Bicycle Repairman
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Your comments are not "disent" (sic), they are ignorance.  This situation is now too dangerous for the tolerance of the ignorant.

Put a cork in it.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 13:04 | 1137602 primalplasma
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It's your denial (which is really fear in disguise) that is an example of why our species just lost it's only home. You are just another person that when the moment of truth comes suddenly becomes useless.

SShame on you.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 13:06 | 1137604 primalplasma
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It's your denial (which is really fear in disguise) that is an example of why our species just lost it's only home. You are just another person that when the moment of truth comes suddenly becomes useless.

SShame on you.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:03 | 1136532 tmosley
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You can't "logic" away facts, no matter how hard you try.  The fact is that no-one can work inside those buildings any more.  Any possible entombment procedure is thus going to necessitate the sacrifice of tens or hundreds of thousands of workers.  The longer this thing is allowed to sit, the more likely it will be that an unusual weather pattern will develop and carry high doses of radioactivity straight to Tokyo.

Or do you just not want to talk about it?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:23 | 1136601 romanko
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And you know that "tens or hundreds of thousands" of workers will die, as a fact? For sure? Really? And this is based on what exactly?

You want a fact? Here's a fact - not one, zero, nada deaths so far due to this nuclear situation. But that wouldn't make for a flashy tabloid like headline, would it?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:35 | 1136654 Bicycle Repairman
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Did you see the picture with those cars in the plant parking lot?  They belong to dead TEPCO employees.  They died on the first day of the accident.  I'm not waiting for the "official" word on it.  There were 100's of thousands of premature deaths and illnesses subsequent to Chernobyl.  Fukushima will be worse.

You are plain ignorant.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:52 | 1136753 Ruffcut
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Unless you get off your fat ass and go there and give us facts of the conditions, then shut the fuck up.

The only fact you need to realize is that you are an asshole. Go back to jacking off to your pic of ann coulter.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:43 | 1137082 tsx500
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try   janet napolitano  

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:39 | 1137454 The Profit Prophet
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...or the internet picture of them doing the nasty together

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:57 | 1136777 DollarMenu
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How do you know that there have been no deaths associated with this event?

Are you relying on the sources that so far have been lying,

or do you have a mystical vision of the entire scene?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:15 | 1137311 tmosley
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Uhh, yeah, I do.  Concrete containment vessels don't build themselves.  It doesn't matter how hard you wish for them, PEOPLE have to bring in the concrete, erect the forms, and fill them.  They are getting fatal doses in minute timescales inside the buildings, which is where they have to dump said concrete and build said forms.

Your inability to problem solve is nothing short of stunning.  

Also, at least three people have died from splashing around in radioactive water.  They may or may not still be walking around, but the dose they took is deadly.  A similar fate awaits anyone who walks into those buildings at this point, no matter how much you wish for it not to be so.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:52 | 1137536 Homey Da Clown
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Care to explain this Einstein?

Japan Nuclear Plant Owner Confirms First Deaths as Workers Fail to Contain Leak

The two workers, aged 21 and 24, sustained multiple external injuries and were believed to have died from blood loss, TEPCO said. Their bodies were decontaminated as radiation has been spewing from the plant for three weeks.

Read more: How about this one?   There are up to 1,000 dead bodies in the countryside around the Fukushima nuclear reactors that can't be collected, because the corpses are too radioactive. Now STFU
Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:39 | 1136424 americanspirit
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Not that different from sending US soldiers into Iraq in unarmored HumVees


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:39 | 1136425 americanspirit
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Not that different from sending US soldiers into Iraq in unarmored HumVees


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:41 | 1136426 americanspirit
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Not that different from sending US soldiers into Iraq in unarmored HumVees


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:42 | 1136433 strenue
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At least you have a chance that you might not encounter an IED. Here, you are being irradiated. The similarity would come when you inhale toxic dust from DU rounds. Years later, a slow death.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 14:36 | 1137996 MSimon
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For DU to actually do you any radiological harm you must be clse enough to round impact to breathe the dust. If you are that close you may have more serious problems to contend with.

Tell you what though. Don't get caught in a sand storm. That stuff is loaded with uranium. Naturally.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:40 | 1136429 Ancona
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This is fucking tragic. Why in God's name is TEPCO still in charge of this charade? It's like watching the three stooges try and paint a fucking fence. We're talking about the destruction of the ocean and every living thing in it. As you all know, this means the end of ALL life on earth. When the oceans die....we die. It really is that simple.

The international community needs to step in and get these TEPCO clowns out of there and begin to work on REAL solutions to this epic disaster or we're all going to suffer.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:59 | 1136503 johnQpublic
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As I watched, I heard an eagle that was flying in midair call out in a loud voice: "Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!"

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:05 | 1136533 Herman Strandsc...
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Trumpets. You mean conch shells surely?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 13:17 | 1137654 Rusty Shorts
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"ARITHMETICUS." Virginia, Nevada.--"I am an enthusiastic student of mathematics, and it is so vexatious to me to find my progress constantly impeded by these mysterious arithmetical technicalities. Now do tell me what the difference is between geometry and conchology?"

Here you come again with your arithmetical conundrums, when I am suffering death with a cold in the head. If you could have seen the expression of scorn that darkened my countenance a moment ago, and was instantly split from the center in every direction like a fractured looking-glass by my last sneeze, you never would have written that disgraceful question. Conchology is a science which has nothing to do with mathematics; it relates only to shells. At the same time, however, a man who opens oysters for a hotel, or shells a fortified town, or sucks eggs, is not, strictly speaking, a conchologist-a fine stroke of sarcasm that, but it will be lost on such an unintellectual clam as you. Now compare conchology and geometry together, and you will see what the difference is, and your question will be answered. But don't torture me with any more arithmetical horrors until you know I am rid of my cold. I feel the bitterest animosity toward you at this moment-bothering me in this way, when I can do nothing but sneeze and rage and snort pocket- handkerchiefs to atoms. If I had you in range of my nose now I would blow your brains out.


 - Mark Twain, Answers to Correspondence

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:12 | 1136561 torabora
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Operation Downfall v2.0?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:47 | 1136451 scrubman
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Do the designers, builders, approvers, and owners of Fukushima have no honor?  Why have we not heard of hundreds of suicides over this mess?  Oh, they are probably volunteering to work there and do whatever can be done to get it stabilized, then they will do the honorable thing later.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:49 | 1136462 Sizzurp
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What do you suppose this is doing to Japan's realestate prices and who holds that paper?  If I lived in Tokyo, and had any means whatsoever, I'd be looking for the exit sign.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:06 | 1136824 Ruffcut
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It is the only good reason to financed to the hilt on mortgage. If you are within 50 miles of a nuke plant then you be to max you pay and have another buggout place somewhere else.

Homeowners policy does not cover nuclear anything. nope.. nada.. total loss to the homeowner. Make the homeowner be the bank, and then the investor, and then to the government, and then to the citizens.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:53 | 1136475 vast-dom
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hey jimmy boy: whatever the reasons for war for $$$ let's do a little COST/RISK analysis and factor in how much MORE $$$ it will cost for this nuclear disaster over time. 


Myopic is understatement. Unless Big Pharm got a cure for all sorts of cancer as funded by BP, EXXON et al.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:56 | 1136482 vast-dom
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not looking good for the planet and Homo Sap.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:58 | 1136509 the not so migh...
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biosphere is f'ed

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 21:38 | 1139423 StychoKiller
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Is the surface of a planet the right place for an expanding
technological civilization?

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