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Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:07 | 1137264 TerraHertz
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Sure! Why do you think you needed to give your postal address when signing up? You did, right?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 15:02 | 1138105 mick_richfield
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Mine was signed by Marla.

 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 16:02 | 1138364 tj3
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Mine had a coffee stain on it. Won't come out either.

So I just wear it as a knight shirt.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:26 | 1136594 Bastiat
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by IQ 145
on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 23:48
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No one is gambling anything; you are so far from understanding anything; it's just amazing. The very small quantities of radioactive gases released were released deliberately; there is no on-going problem; none, whatsoever. It's too bad the operators were so paranoid about meaningless releases of gases into the atmoshere, that they allowed an explosive mixture of hydrogen and air to exist in the building; this will cost the power company some bucks; it means nothing for public health

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:16 | 1136880 AnAnonymous
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No one is gambling anything; you are so far from understanding anything; it's just amazing. The very small quantities of radioactive gases released were released deliberately; there is no on-going problem; none, whatsoever. It's too bad the operators were so paranoid about meaningless releases of gases into the atmoshere, that they allowed an explosive mixture of hydrogen and air to exist in the building; this will cost the power company some bucks; it means nothing for public health

 

Too many loops to jump through. It means nothing for public health. It depends on what could mean something for public health etc

 

This event is certainly not an a "no tomorrow" event. Sizing everything to "no tomorrow" events certainly allows to perceive a lot of events as meaningless.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:00 | 1137179 US Uncut
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I think that you are misunderstanding. Entirely. Small quantities do not equal CONTAMINATED milk in Washington, California, Arizona. Small quantities do not equal affected seaweed in British Columbia. Small quantities do not equal picking it up in Europe.   Since reactors 5&6 are now being flooded and are cracking, when they were not operational, and they have fuel rods pool storage, and the TEPCO announcer CRIED while he brought us this news... I think you are seriously misdirected. When a STANFORD guest lecturer indicates that this nuclear disaster is one of the WORST DISASTER MAN HAS EVER SEEN, then you my friend, have taken a wrong turn. 

 

Chernobyl stayed on land. This is going to contaminate the entire Pacific Ocean. The entire Alaskan fishing industry. Rivers where fish swim upstream to spawn. WHY? Because there is NO 500k workforce working to stop this. Russia could order that many and more to deal with Chernobyl and it still took 7 months of grueling non-stop labor to stop that. And parts of the EU are still contaminated. 

But here, we have SIX reactors in dire straights, NO labor stopping it, MASSIVE dumping into the sea....

Bur you are right. Means nothing for public health. /sarcasm.

You are a fool.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:04 | 1137242 tj3
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Thanks for reposting IQ ???'s troll post.

1/10

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 17:01 | 1138565 Bastiat
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Yes, I copied and save it at the time, rather than rant in response.  I thought it might be worth reposting from time to time. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:19 | 1136596 M2Market
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Sure.  Spend your ninety days on a fishing trip around Fukushima.  Try the seafood.  Bring a cookbook.  All the radioactive talk is just "utterly delusional".  Your words, not mine.  Show us the meaning of "how crazy this all was". We'll be happy to see that this is nothing but a bad dream, and denial is a river in Egypt. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:04 | 1136818 MaHatma Coatma
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I'm with you IQ 145.  I'm a big fan of ZH but most of these comments are just crazy, irresponsible tin foil hat stuff.  It's almost bad enough to make me re-evaluate some of the PM advice I get here.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:16 | 1137327 TerraHertz
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No really, it's true. You _should_ re-evaluate, and not buy any silver or gold. Show some national pride and buy government bonds.

Anyway, I see you've got your hat and coat, door's over there.

Oh and btw, your nic is a dead troll giveaway. But you don't understand why, do you?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:35 | 1136325 TruthInSunshine
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Wait! What about that MIT Professor and so-called expert on all things nuclear (since he apparently worked for Siemens and the nuclear industry, too) who said that there was nothing to worry about, in his quaint letter?

Oehmen's take away from the Fukushima Disaster (as repeated by nuclear industry trolls all over the web): "I repeat, there was and will *not* be any significant release of radioactivity from the damaged Japanese reactors."

MIT Damage Control and Josef Oehmen's “Why I Am Not Worried” About A Radiation Disaster in Japan

 

And a genuine hat tip to Zero Hedge for being in front of this, and accurate on it all the way through, even in the face of Operation Sock Puppet and Operation Nuclear Industry Irradiated, Glowing Sock Puppet.

The Main Stream Media is the biggest pile of epic fail ever devised, with the possible exception of the governments from which they directly source (and blindly repeat) their stories.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:41 | 1136427 MarkD
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Ya but how many idol Americans watched Bill Douchebag O'Reilly interview his expert on the matter......ANN COULTER: Don't Believe The Experts, Radiation Is Actually GOOD For You

 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:20 | 1136600 MilleniumJane
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And a genuine hat tip to Zero Hedge for being in front of this, and accurate on it all the way through, even in the face of Operation Sock Puppet and Operation Nuclear Industry Irradiated, Glowing Sock Puppet.

 

A resounding amen to that!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:17 | 1136331 Big Corked Boots
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Form a committee to investigate?

Form a firing squad to instill responsibility and justice.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:22 | 1136337 Theta_Burn
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How about a tipping point of the so very silent world body?

Whats with the loyalty to this utter ineptitude at this point in and outside of Japan?

Far to many soiling themselves for someone NOT to be asking for ass-wipe.

 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:22 | 1136345 Roger Knights
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Seeking Alpha (excerpts):

"Japan's Fate Subject to the Winds" at http://seekingalpha.com/article/261668-japan-s-fate-subject-to-the-winds

"What has struck me as strange in this crisis is the lack of aggressive attack from the get-go. The more aggressive you are during the early stages, the more options you are able to create to mitigate a nuclear event – and a boiling water reactor’s failure tree is slow moving. Do not believe because there are not daily events to watch that technicians are getting a grip – this is the nature of this beast."

"If the winds decide, the highly populated areas further south in Japan could be subjected to lethal levels of radiation. Japan’s future is literally resting with the winds. No country will accept radiated shipments coming from Japan."

"The ability to transfer power between zones is limited to 1 GW through frequency converters. This is literally nothing when you consider total generating capacity is 81 GW in the 50 hz zone where the damaged power plants lie. This electrical distribution problem will not go away in 6 months."

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:25 | 1136366 Tyler Durden
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This is precisely why on March 15 we posted an interactive Japanese wind map.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:48 | 1136720 goldfish1
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Very interesting reading the comments of the shills on that article on March 15.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:43 | 1136703 avonaltendorf
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Sinking Alpha woke up? Holy moly, what next? Reuters?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:09 | 1136841 Whats that smell
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Why would anyone believe Hansen? He is an engineer,  and is obviously lacking in any kind of PR training.

Now take this glass of kool-aid and go sit down with your friends.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:24 | 1136359 Caviar Emptor
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This is a good example of a country willing to sacrifice its citizens in order to keep its stock market and elite corporatists afloat. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:38 | 1136418 youngman
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They have been sacrificing their people for a long time...look at WWII...no food..no supplies..fight to the death...

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:38 | 1136420 Duuude
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Uhhhhh...

 

"This is a good example of a country willing to sacrifice its citizens in order to keep its stock market and elite corporatists afloat."

 

Uhhhhh...Oh...you mean this this.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:51 | 1136739 Clockwork Orange
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+100

Same as it ever was.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 21:21 | 1139373 StychoKiller
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And you may say to yourself:  My God!  What have they done?!

 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:24 | 1136360 serotonindumptruck
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It has been pointed out that with the Chernobyl disaster, the Soviets had the ability to force people to respond to the incident. Granted, the ignorance factor on the part of the workers to the radiation danger was helpful to the PTB in the Soviet Union, although the choice between performing a "patriotic" duty or being shot for disobediance was no doubt a factor, at least on some subconscious level.

The Japanese government does not have the ability to force workers to respond.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:33 | 1136389 Theta_Burn
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Agreed

Not force, but like i said before, just ask for help. usually when tragedy strikes any country offers of help come pouring in

I'm not seeing that in this case. very strange.

A case of Japanese pride? we'll all suffer as a result

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:21 | 1136597 bob_dabolina
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It was half force and half ignorance about radiation. That was the saving grace for Chernobyl.

Japan has no such luxury

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:26 | 1136362 Filthy Rotter
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From what I understand, there are a LOT more than 50 workers on-site.  They go at it in shifts of 50, but I believe there are well over 300 workers on-site.

Hollywood may title the film "The Fukashima 50," but there are many more accepting their inevitable fate.  Personally, I wouldn't say they care what the readings are; they have accepted a one-way ticket, and will do all they can for their families, countrymen...and those/us beyond.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:28 | 1136376 cossack55
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By 2012 the title will be "The Fukashima 5,000,000,000"

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:23 | 1136606 equity_momo
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They need The Fukashima 500,000 if they want to preserve their central island as a habitable place (or the Philappines and West Coast of America for that matter)

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:27 | 1136365 Global Hunter
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In regards to your last paragraph, yes I think so and yes I hope so.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:28 | 1136371 LoneStarHog
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How can any of this be factual?  Has no one read Karl Douchenger's arrogant missive - published just after the start of this incident - that HE was setting the RECORD STRAIGHT...that HE was telling people THE TRUTH...that HE has the facts/answers...that HE removes all the hyperbole...that HE should be followed...that there was COLD SHUTDOWN and the "WORST WAS BEHIND US"...All you fools who believe all these current hyperbole reports and ignore The Almighty Karl Douchenger.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:33 | 1136395 taraxias
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He is a douchebag, why anyone bothers to even visit his site anymore is beyond me.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:40 | 1136419 Trillax
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Ah yes, Karl.  The unending font of spewing hubris that is the ego-machine of KD.  One can only take so many 'smilies' of 'I told you so' before wanting to just repeatedly cut yourself with the nearest convinent sharp object...

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:41 | 1136684 Ruffcut
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The fucktard is a legend in his own mind. I got the boot, but had no star status. Like I would pay to read his spew and videos in front of the local school board. He talks of fear mongering when he causes shitloads of fear that the market is going to crash and when his spew is near accurate, he goes "I told you so".

He is probably the troll that visits here.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:51 | 1136473 trav7777
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bbbbut...bbbbut...he's been on TV!!!!!

I wonder how many bans he dished out for those who even questioned the certainty of his claims.

I'd never go out on a limb like that where credibility is concerned.  There was always the possibility here of serious radiation release.

It's been deductively clear for some time now that the coolant loops in both the reactors and SFPs are open.  Without a closed cooling loop, there is no such thing as a stable situation.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:07 | 1136543 Spalding_Smailes
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Trouble at Fukushima reactors No. 5 and 6 — Cracks are allowing in radioactive water that could destroy emergency generator and other vital equipment (VIDEO)

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W7uGvW8xvY&feature=player_embedded

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:23 | 1136583 Ident 7777 economy
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Cracks are allowing in radioactive water that could ...

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Well, those those two 'sets' of facilities (Fukushima I Rx 1-4 and Rx 5-6) share the same little protected 'bay' or breakwater area that cooling seawater is drawn from (and I assume some radioactive 'water' is leaking into) ... so it would figure ...

 

 

 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:41 | 1137487 jomama
Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:15 | 1136582 Homey Da Clown
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The best was when he voted for Obama because McCain's campaign wouldn't "listen" to him. What a friggin meglomaniac. Of course he when people call him out on how much of a douche he was for voting for Obama, he threatens to ban them.

Let's see how he tap dances out of this one.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:32 | 1137413 The Profit Prophet
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Still can't eat the crow pie Trav?.....and now calling the kettle black????...unbelievable!!!!!!!!

T.E.I.N. everyone!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 16:57 | 1138550 Matte_Black
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Trav has made full disclosure that his view of the situation has evolved to a more pessimistic view based on continuing events. He also has moderated his analysis and comments to reflect this view in obvious ways, and for some time now.

It seems unhelpful to keep the flame war going. What reason?

Just sayin...

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:41 | 1137048 Meridian
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...and don't forget about how completly wrong he was about PM's. You couldn't even mention them in breaking news without getting banned.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 14:07 | 1137869 indio007
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+1 He is an  douche. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:30 | 1136372 TruthInSunshine
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I'm no expert or Josef Oehmen, but -

"[i]mmeasurable levels of radiation" & "radiation levels are so high that monitoring devices have been rendered useless"

- shit is getting real.

How long before Tokyo area tap and storm water is glowing?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:36 | 1136412 Bicycle Repairman
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Given the level of lies, it is easy to believe that the threat to Tokyo is far greater than is being reported.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:27 | 1136624 TruthInSunshine
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I'm no Karl Denninger, TEPCO genius or Josef Oehmen, but I wouldn't go anywhere near that region, let alone Japan or Tokyo, for all of Buffett's ill-gotten gains.

By the time this critically wounded, atomic clusterfockmonstrosity has been bleeding and belching copious amounts of fuk-u-up radiation for...months and years...we'll be lucky to not have profound impacts over here.

 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 21:26 | 1139388 StychoKiller
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Pegged meters!  NOT GOOD, Bitchez!

How many neutrons can one man stand, before he begins to glow?

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