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Fukushima Reactor 1 Fuel Rods Fully Exposed, Reactor 4 In Danger Of Collapsing

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Remember Fukushima? The exploded nuclear power plant that everyone was talking about two months ago and now the media has imposed a complete blackout on, because out of print/page views, means out of radioactive spewage, right? Wrong. According to the latest update from a now government funded TEPCO, "fuel
rods are fully exposed in the No. 1 reactor at its stricken
Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant, setting back the utility’s
plan to resolve the crisis. The water level is 1 meter (3.3 feet) below the base of the fuel assembly, Junichi Matsumoto, a general manager at the utility known as Tepco, told reporters at a briefing in Tokyo. Melted fuel has dropped to the bottom of the pressure vessel and is still being cooled, Matsumoto said. The company doesn’t know how long the rods have been exposed, he said." And apparently even more skeptics are emerging: "“I’ve been saying from the beginning the water tomb plan won’t work,” said Tadashi Narabayashi, a professor of nuclear engineering at Hokkaido University. “Tepco must work on a water circulation cooling system as soon as possible. They’ve been going round and round in circles and now realize this is what they need to do.” And the kicker: "It’s unlikely the situation has worsened with the discovery the rods are exposed because they’ve probably been out of the water since shortly after the crisis started, Narabayashi said." Which means that the situtation has indeed been dire from the very beginning, that TEPCO and the government have been lying, that radiation has been spewing, and that prevalent radiation is likely far higher than most have conceived. Pretty much as was predicted on Zero Hedge long ago.

And indicating that things are even worse, is the following report from Russia Today (courtesy of The Intel Hub) that Reactor 4 may be on the verge of collapse:

Nuclear experts on Russia Today reported Tuesday that their is a real danger of a complete collapse of Fukushima nuclear reactor 4.

Japan has announced that the building is leaning and that they are taking measures to reinforce the structure in order to prevent a collapse that would scatter nuclear rods from the spent fuel pool on the ground around the plant.

The flyover video analysis and images captured from the TBS live HD cam show little remains of the building except a burnt out skeleton.

The silver lining to the mushroom cloud: according to Douche Bank this is all very positive for Japanese GDP, which just may be emitting a few extra roentgens for the next 15 thousand years. Period. End of story.

As usual, here is the current and projected radiation emission, via ZAMG:


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Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:42 | 1267702 Urban Roman
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Cleveland Syndrome, baby!

(you can't call it China Syndrome 'cos China is right next door)

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:56 | 1267785 Herne the Hunter
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Antipode to US: Indian Ocean

Antipode to Japan: Southern Brazil

So it would me more like, Diego Garcia Syndrome resp. Sao Paulo Syndrome

/pedantic mode

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:11 | 1267850 tmosley
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Must've taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:22 | 1267917 slewie the pi-rat
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ride like the wind

Japan Wind Map

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:08 | 1268126 Spastica Rex
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Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:20 | 1268158 tmosley
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Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:44 | 1268564 LeBalance
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They sent our brave wabbit in to clear the ditches and drainage.

Wo be unto us when the rabbit glowing William H. Bonny takes his revenge.


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:19 | 1267914 FreeNewEnergy
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Uruguay, bitchez. Home to more retired diplomats per capita than any other country on the planet. Ya think they know what's good for them?

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 14:38 | 1268836 takeaction
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Can anybody get this video to Tyler....The site that shows the videos of the radiation was pulled down, but this guy found the new site and all of the hidden server data.  Take a look.  THis looks very serious.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 18:19 | 1269824 Dabale arroz a ...
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These simulations have been taken out of (easy) public reach. But are the results so bad? I mean: to see the map of Europe or America invaded with colours is spectacular, but these colours may indicate only small (not dangerous nor toxic) concentrations of these substances. Anyone with the knowledge of tolerable concentrations of these substances taht can illuminate us? Thanks!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 15:56 | 1269221 Popo
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Hot chicks?

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:28 | 1267956 Cash_is_Trash
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Antipode to Japan: Southern Brazil

And Southern Brazil's got the bitches! Here in São Paulo it's all work and drinking heavily on weekends.

The Southern part of the 'zil is way better.

Antipode to Reason: Tim Geithner

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:54 | 1268071 johny2
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I agree, it is quite nice down here.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 14:42 | 1268859 davepowers
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The Bush family farm in Paraguay?

One could hope

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:04 | 1267809 Gert_B_Frobe
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Actually, Pittsburgh Syndrome would work better. The first commercial Nuke reactor was set up just South of there.



Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:32 | 1267994 lolmao500
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And let's not forget the tropical storm going very near Fukushima within 24 hours... and this is just the beginning of the hurricane/typhoon season.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:52 | 1268277 Jim in MN
Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:14 | 1267868 Cognitive Dissonance
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May I suggest that they might try running another Philadelphia Experiment and cloak the entire mess. That way the media would have nothing to see, thus nothing to talk about. See no Fuku, hear no Fuku, speak no Fuku!

Look ma, no hands.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:20 | 1267901 LFMayor
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I read online that a group was purported to have asked Tesla about this theory and he washed his hands of it.  This from a guy who at one time got blamed for the Tunguska blast and whose idea of entertaining houseguests was to arc currents around their heads from across the room*.  Must have been some naughty stuff to scare him into walking.

*Which they totally bogarted in that "sorcerers apprentice" remake.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:55 | 1268086 Thunder_Downunder
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A cloak of invisibility... that makes perfect sense. And they even have one already.... (unless they've sold the license to apple),28804,1935038_1935085_1935990,00.html



Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:19 | 1267894 Thunder_Downunder
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Great, this is the last thing the US needs, more cheap asian imports :P


Congress is going to have to get serious on Japanese dumping of nuclear fuel. Can't let the people have all that free urm... energy...

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:37 | 1268385 TomGa
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The Norwegian Institute for Air Research has taken down its Fukushima radiation dispersion interactive plotting tool. The last prediction data available through May 12th is not good; in fact, tNorth America is being saturated in high levels of I-131, Xe-133 (1.7e3 Bq/m2) and the Pacific Northwest and West Coast will get slammed by Cs-137.



No longer available:;region=NH


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 15:00 | 1268940 Kobe Beef
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Is that payback for all the Depleted Uranium the USA has "dispersed" throughout Iraq?

Just wondering & marveling at the karma of it all.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:44 | 1267718 AldoHux_IV
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Fucking liars-- that sucks for all those citizens that actually believed the government/Tepco and now they've been exposed to much more radiation than first thought.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:55 | 1267769 jus_lite_reading
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YES!! Zerohedge has been great exposing the liars!!!!! We are all being radiated to death. This is not fear mongering!!! FACT. The EPA has stopped monitoring fish and water JUST when Berkley Univeristy picked up on much higher radiation readings in Strawberries and large leafy plants!!! If the public knew about that the economy of California would grind to a halt. ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND NOTHING ELSE!!! GREED HAS WON!!!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:06 | 1267839 Josh Randall
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Yep - the times have changed for the conceivable future, buy PM's horde prepackaged food pre-Fukushima if possible, bottled water, and short the hell out of the Banksters

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:10 | 1267843 augie
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Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:37 | 1268013 Oh regional Indian
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As I said a scant 12 hours ago here, bears repeating perhaps...

on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 03:32

Troll comments and other sake induced babble aside, I hope the fullest degree of what has hit Fukushima is clear to us all.

Clean water may not be clean, clean air may not be clean. Not for a looooong time anymore or at least not till the earth gives a huge "shake" and spills some healing waters all over the place.

While Fukushima is down on the ZH headline sweepstakes, it's alive and well and spewing. Worse and worse news, every day, but now, no one really counting. Millions and millions of cooling water gallons back in the ocean. No where to put it. Can't go in, cannot leave it alone.

If we can fully internalize the extent of this disaster, I think a lot of things, like how the world might look in a year, become clearer by the day.

The world's 2nd/3rd largest economy just dove off a cliff.



Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:07 | 1268112 ibjamming
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I wonder much does it take to affect the planet and it's inhabitants on a global scale?  Could this be a planet killer?  I doubt it.  I predict that cancer rates start climbing next year and increase from then on...  A million deaths attributed per anum?  More...less...  Japanese are fucked though, of that I agree.  Maybe a reason the commodities are down? There won't be a Japan consuming in the not to distant future.  Anyone with sense and money is probably already gone or in the process.  I wouldn't stay.  The rest will be living subsistence. 

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:22 | 1268165 augie
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so when you see kittens or puppies, do they like, automatically burst into flames? 

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:20 | 1268437 jus_lite_reading
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ORI I read your blog often when you publish it but I also get my info from this one

Just got the twitter update. Fukushima is getting worse as you said!!!!

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 00:15 | 1270798 Oh regional Indian
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Thanks Jus_lite and thanks for the link too.

Reading it now.


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:13 | 1267859 LFMayor
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Because you should believe and do every advice that comes from the Academic Great Minds of Berkeley.  

and last I checked, Cali economy was surpassed in fuckupery only by Illinois.

eleventy !!111!!! 

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:14 | 1268133 Fiat2Zero
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You sir, are an idiot. UC Berkeley, and its cadre of dedicated, underpaid grad students, continues to take measurements in wind, soil, water and food (likely in spite of pressure to discontinue - do not bite the DOE hand that feeds).

While they do provide a convenient canard to keep people from shitting the proverbial brick house (the debunked plane flight versus internal emitter argument), they mostly take the factual, scientific, draw your own conclusions approach.

Please stick your head back in the sand where it belongs (not on ZH)

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 14:26 | 1268762 LFMayor
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underpaid because they have all that time invested in useless fields.  How did their measurements for the poor beset snail darter help out that California economy?  Leave it up to self righteous hippies to fuck up something that was once one of Cali's top industries and source of employment.  And all as self sacrificing martyrs for a greater good.


As for ZH, I didn't realize you'd bought it. No?  Then how about you suck a fart right out of my asshole?

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 21:30 | 1273515 Fiat2Zero
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Nuclear science has evidently made a comeback, so I'd hardly call it useless.

Much stronger than your weak arguments or attempted comeback I'll add.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:13 | 1268144 Whats that smell
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Radiation is good for "conservatives" so soak it up major.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:38 | 1268528 Whats that smell
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Oh yea, what did this guy do before, publish tobacco company studies?

Hanford. Wa, has many beautiful unicorns shittig rainbows in a garden of eden setting.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:55 | 1268638 Goldenhands57
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Hey!! I resemble that fact! I live in Warshington~ Just went by Hanford this last weekend and those uni-corns are a bounding all over the Horse Heaven Hills!!  Hahahaha. You guys are a hoot!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:58 | 1268641 Goldenhands57
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Hey!! I resemble that fact! I live in Warshington~ Just went by Hanford this last weekend and those uni-corns are a bounding all over the Horse Heaven Hills!!  Hahahaha. You guys are a hoot!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:25 | 1267957 FreeNewEnergy
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You know, I've been putting off starting my garden for about 4 weeks now because of Fuku. I figure my plants will all be irradiated, so what's the sense. Might as well eat irradiated vegetables bought from the supermarket since it will all kill equally well.

WTF are they thinking over there? And everywhere else in the world? Is this the actual beginning of mass extinction, or maybe, another extension of it?

I've ceased talking to people about Fukushima because they just think I'm nuts anymore, but seriously, why isn't anyone telling the Japs to stop the release of radioactive nuclides into the water and atmosphere?

This is very disturbing, though it will save me from a lot of gardening. I can focus more of my energies on making $$, buying more silver and getting the hell out of here. South America, gringos!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:33 | 1267999 TaxSlave
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Huh.  Hadn't thought of that.  Radioactive particles are spewing into the atmosphere and being washed into the groundwater and ocean because nobody thought to tell them to stop it?

That's a great idea!  Tell them to stop it, then!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 17:25 | 1269632 Confuchius
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All you have to do is show them your TSA badge...

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:37 | 1268012 SoNH80
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Fuku is a very, very serious problem for the Japanese and their downwind neighbors (Guam? Aleutians?, who knows?) within about 2000 miles.  For North America, it's a general worry, but I would go ahead and plant that garden.  There is background cosmic radiation at all times, and for N. Americans, this is an additional marginal amount.  Again, though, for the Japanese and their close downwind neighbors, it's time to entomb the friggin' things in cement.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:39 | 1268226 Rhodin
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Yes. The external radiation is not that high in USA, and mostly is alpha and beta type which doesn't penetrate far.  Sure, we can handle a little more of that, take a few more antioxidants etc.  The problem gets a bit more serious for those unlucky enough to inhale or consume this radiation.  Those entering med school might want to consider oncology, cause there will be no shortage of patients

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:31 | 1268498 NotApplicable
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As always, it isn't external radiation exposure that's the issue, but rather contamination of food leading to ingestion, leading to massive exposure internally. Radioactive iodine, with it's short half life, isn't too big of a danger in the US, but every particle of cesium that makes it to the ground has the potential to be taken up into a plant.

One way to help prevent uptake in plants, is the same as in humans, overload your system (fertilize) with other sources of potassium as well as lime.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 20:29 | 1270212 tip e. canoe
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thanks for the advice mate...was wondering about that.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 17:31 | 1269662 Confuchius
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The radioactive mess cannot be "encased in cement" or sand or pixie dust. It will continue reacting and spewing enough to match the lies of the nipponese bureaucrats.

TThere are no easy ways out. No hard ways either. No way out period.

BBe sure to buy lots of GE stock. Glow-in-the-dark stock.

IImmelt. Sounds like I melt (down...)

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:21 | 1268454 NotApplicable
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I told my wife we are planting nothing in the open until Fukushima airborne emissions are contained. So far we've started plants in containers that we move indoors on rainy days. (welcome to Bizarro World)

Within the next couple of weeks I plan on building hoop houses over our garden plots. And purchasing several hundred gallons worth of water storage tanks.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:22 | 1268460 jus_lite_reading
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OH CRAP!!!!!!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:05 | 1268105 Whats that smell
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Think you may have something there lite, keep the sheep dumbed down as much as possible.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 15:17 | 1269029 flattrader
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EPA decides to stop testing for radiation in air, water, milk

NILU end public access to radiation cloud modeling forecast (after showing large clouds now over US and Canada)

Japs turn off (it "goes down") web viewable live cam of Fukushima  (the recent steam and smoke seemed to have alarmed people.)

And the Jap Gov admitted they were planning a large release of radiation ]

So, it's like something BAD is happening...and they'd rather we all not watch too closely?  Hmmm....

NILU ends public forecasts as map shows large radiation clouds now over US, Canada (VIDEOS) May 12th, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Fukushima, Norwegian Institute for Air Research (NILU), May 11, 2011 …Read More

Watchdog: Inexplicable that EPA shut down Fukushima radiation monitoring after finding high levels of radiation in drinking water May 11th, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Watchdog criticizes feds for pulling back on radiation monitoring, California Watch, …Read More


Physician: US should continue monitoring milk, rain because of Fukushima — It “always” turns out that radiation is higher than first thought May 9th, 2011 at 04:17 PM

Canada and U.S. cut back radiation reporting, CBC News, May 9, 2011 …Read More

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:48 | 1267722 Zing
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Long physical plutonium!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:50 | 1267728 hugovanderbubble
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Look URA Etf....


bad bad chart...

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 14:46 | 1268876 greenbear
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Sorry, intended to click link, looked away for a sec then saw I clicked junk instead.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:45 | 1267724 hugovanderbubble
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USD JPY back to 75

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:02 | 1267812 camaro68ss
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yeah! Amerika is saved!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:47 | 1267735 the not so migh...
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Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:51 | 1267741 Whizbang
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Associate professor of nuclear history? WTF is that? This guy has fewer qualifications to speak about this than my mom.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:53 | 1267756 bob_dabolina
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It's 2011, just roll with it.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:05 | 1267834 serotonindumptruck
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The water-entombment plan would be a bit more viable if the entire subduction zone off of Honshu gave way and dropped the entire island of Japan into the sea.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:06 | 1267824 LFMayor
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You actually have the level of ignorance to question an academic of such standing? Why, he's spent a lifetime researching and studying (in a fucking echo chamber) subjects that would flutter and stall your plebian mind.  Now, back to your trencher, peon, and let us not see you begging from our table again.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:13 | 1267883 Whizbang
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I know, that M.S. in engineering is getting less and less useful everyday :D

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:24 | 1267930 LFMayor
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LOL!   Pournelle wrote a long time ago about "voodoo sciences"   He flatly stated that if your studies had no division of square roots in them then your degree wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

Hippies suck, bunch of pushy, unwashed luddites.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:23 | 1268471 PenGun
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 Pournelle is a moron.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:12 | 1267854 Gert_B_Frobe
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After Hirosh and Naga, I guess they're all Associate Profs in Nuclear History.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:48 | 1267746 NOTW777
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MSM cant figure how this could possibly help obamas poll ratings - maybe if a congressman was shot near the plant then obama could hold a pep rally

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:50 | 1267755 Turd Ferguson
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Maybe Fukushima counts as "something dramatic"?

05-12 09:46: Fed's Plosser says Fed has made clear there is no QE3 on table unless something dramatic happens

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:54 | 1267778 jus_lite_reading
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LIKE THIS??!?!?!

THE RADIATION LEVELS MORE THAN 40 MILES OUT FROM FUKUSHIMA ARE ABOVE CHERNOBYL!!!! and the sheep of Japan send their children there because the gubmint says to do it!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 15:39 | 1269119 Laddie
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and the sheep of Japan send their children there because the gubmint says to do it!

Well the sheeple in US follow the government all the way to their extinction, look at how, despite HUGE UNEMPLOYMENT, you will see NOTHING from citizens about halting immigration. Of course MSM and the governement PUSH immigration, PUSH amnesty and etc.


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 20:47 | 1270259 tip e. canoe
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nice blog

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:58 | 1267779 silvertrain
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That quote stuck out to me as well when I saw it yesturday...

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:05 | 1267815 buzzsaw99
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those buzzards say something different every day.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:17 | 1267890 SheepDog-One
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Nah, I think 'something dramatic' has already been planned behind this fake Bin Laden story, drama will play out across the US as nuclear bomb scares (actual detonations or not I dont know) are launched in major US cities soon.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:31 | 1268189 schizo321437
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Nuke holywood for ironies sake.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:11 | 1268376 RichardP
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Holywood moved to Vancouver, B.C.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:37 | 1268539 Abiotic Oil
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HAARP concerto on the New Madrid.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:53 | 1267757 Sudden Debt
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This news is like watching season 52 of Lost.

People don't care about it anymore.


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:01 | 1267797 LFMayor
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fucking true that. 

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:06 | 1267825 camaro68ss
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O GOD i hate that fucking show.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:38 | 1268016 TaxSlave
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Helluva way to get voted off the island.  Oops, wrong show that I didn't watch either of.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:53 | 1267758 Caviar Emptor
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Long leukemia drugs, short tanning salons, long sci fi 

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:01 | 1267792 andybev01
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Yup. Gonna dust off my Godzilla DVD set this weekend.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:10 | 1267848 Overflow-admin
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Long Bethesda Game studios (Fallout 3)

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:54 | 1267764 LRC Fan
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How about some stories about the great capture of Usama bin Laden?  USA USA USA USA USA hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! You-S-AY!  You-S-AY!!!!!!!!!! hoooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOoooooo!  Hacksaw Jimmmmm Duggan style bitchez!

Sorry Tyler, did you post something?

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:37 | 1268025 TaxSlave
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Howsa come since Obama came to save us everyone spells Osama's name with a U now?


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:42 | 1268038 SheepDog-One
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USAma, Al CIAda's employee.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:32 | 1268196 Things that go bump
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I postulate it is to creat a greater distinction between the names Obama and Osama. People keep getting the two mixed up - haven't you noticed?  I've heard newscasters mix up the two right in the middle of a dramatic account of the raid. I wasn't sure who had assassinated whom. It is an easy enough mistake to make and we can't continue to be getting our president mixed up with a rabid dog terrorist.  

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:52 | 1267768 LoneStarHog
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Don't tell Karl Douchenger...He called an end to the crisis in March and mocked/banned anyone who disagreed.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:01 | 1267795 Alex Kintner
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Right. "Emission Completed".

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:32 | 1268197 takinthehighway
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Could Mr. Denninger be said to have "prematurely ejaculated"?

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:17 | 1267905 Trillax
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Karl occasionally has some flashes of brillance -- those being far and few between.  However, the rest of the time he's too busy telling the blogosphere 'I told you so!' whilst stroking off in the mirror.  He is someone who can't tolerate any streams of thought other than his own and regularly squelches anyone whom dare strikes a counterargument to his own.

In other words, a total douche.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:40 | 1268028 trav7777
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He's too ugly to use a mirror unless he puts someone else's picture up on it

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 14:41 | 1268868 Trillax
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Touché Trav -- I don't want to ponder the whole scenario too long however.  Just isn't pretty (in a 'you just past a 10-car fatal accident with bodies on the road' sort of way).


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:59 | 1267784 chunga
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I have absolutely no knowledge as to the credibility of this source. Interesting video.

5/3/2011 -- Fuel rods ejected 2 miles ! Update on Fukushima - Fairewinds Associates, Inc

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:37 | 1268008 slewie the pi-rat
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Thu, 05/12/2011 - 15:44 | 1269149 Laddie
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Fairewinds is credible, the MSM is NOT credible.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:15 | 1267880 Derpin USA
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I'm pro nuke, but your willful denial and ignorance is astounding.

Outside of workers at the plant, the chance of receiving an dose which would lead to short term death has always been 0 and always will be. The same was true of Chernobyl.

The issue is the longterm ramifications of exposure to radionuclides, and specifically ingestion of harmful particles such as Strontium 90 and Cesium 137. Both of these radionuclides are insidious in their movement through plant life to the top of the food chain. They both mimic calcium and find their way to human bones, causing things like leukemia and bone cancer.

These are things that will take years to develop.

Not everyone who recognizes this for the problem it is is going to be some anti-nuke greenpeace faggot. It's called being logical, reasonable and fair.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:21 | 1267912 serotonindumptruck
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Speaking of 90St and 137Ce, the black morel season here in the Pacific Northwest is looking like it will be massive. I wonder if the health food cooperatives are buying mushrooms this year?

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:39 | 1268036 trav7777
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doesn't anyone on ZH live out there and have a dosimeter?

ANYONE have any radiation readings from anywhere??

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:50 | 1268061 tmosley
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One guy mentioned he detected slightly elevated readings in the pacific northwest, but they have since returned to normal.  This was last night, but I don't remember who it was.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:58 | 1268096 serotonindumptruck
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I thought about calling the produce manager and asking about use of survey instruments. I feel like it's my moral (no pun intended) obligation if I intend to make a few bucks on this venture. I've sold mushrooms to this guy in the past. This was a few years ago and he was buying all black/Peck's morel for $15 a pound. I gathered and sold around 70 to 80 pounds of mushrooms that year.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:20 | 1268166 serotonindumptruck
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I'm gonna give him a call and speak with him on this issue as soon as I'm done typing this post.

I'm not sure about the rapidity with which any mutagenic effects would become self-evident, but I would not be a bit surprised if there were instances of unusually or extraordinarily large specimens of black morel being found.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:03 | 1268095 Maxter
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I plan to go take some radiation readings on May 19th inside the Fukushima 20 to 30 km stripe.  I will let you guys know if you are interested about the numbers.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:23 | 1268162 Threeggg
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Here are a few that I have been following.

They have been slowly increasing as time goes on. Note that TEPCO opened 2 doors on the number 1 reactor building on Monday to air-out the radiation, so I would expect these reading to increase starting Saturday.

The situation is much worse than anyone can imagine. TEPCO has been caught in 100's of lies. Japan will not make the call to correct this problem because it will involve the sacrifice of tens of 1000's of lives.

See The Liquidators of Chernobyl

Geiger Counters in the U.S.




Gobermant ran U.S. radiation RADNET system (If you believe the readings) most of the monitoring sites dont even work. Who would of thought >???????

Goberment influenced Japan radiation readings(If you believe the readings)

Live feed of video directly from the Fukushima plant - when up and running. As of this posting the camera is black but the audio feed is still working. Previous nights they have had the whole site lit up showing all the reactors billowing smoke. It's night time there now !

I would recommend you bookmark this link.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:38 | 1268209 takinthehighway
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Here ya go, trav...


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:40 | 1268215 Threeggg
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Proven to be influenced just like the RADNET system.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:17 | 1268418 That Peak Oil Guy
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Here in Colorado have a geiger counter with a GM pancake probe with enough sensitivity to get about 50 - 60 CPM from background radiation.  That reading has not really changed recently, I think the levels of radiation exposure we are getting are too low to affect background counts much.  On this unit 125 CPM = ~.05 mR.

Yesterday we got some rain for the first time in a couple weeks, so I sopped up some rain water with a paper towel soon after it started raining and stuck it under the probe.  I did this several times using fresh paper towels from several locations around the yard.  I was getting about 100 - 110 CPM, so around 2x background.  I imagine this was alpha and/or beta as the source had to be right up to the probe to be noticable.  Whatever isotope (perhaps Xenon 135?) was causing most of the escalated reading it must have had a short half-life because it went down around normal within about 12 - 24 hours.  Rain continues today but readings are at or close to normal.

I'm not an expert, just someone who wants real data and doesn't trust the government to provide it, so take my data for the amateur attempt that it is.


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 15:02 | 1268950 magis00
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Dutch Sinse, of youtube HAARP fame, is currently on a US roadtrip with his geiger counter.  He's based in St. Louis, but I believe his readings include NC, TN, and AR and TX(?).  Interesting..

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:22 | 1267939 Midwest Prepper
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+ 137

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:37 | 1268024 LFMayor
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I must have stung you with the whale wars or dance of the penguins smarm.

Now, seriously here... spare me the ignorance part. I was sent to a course on CBR and was a monitor at my command, ran a freaking geiger and 236 test kits while in full MOPP gear and I realize the dangers of calcium and iodine substitution.  Hell, I even bought "American Survial" from the newsstand in the 80's when I was still in freakin high school, learned about painting an arm with iodine from that.
I concur that there's a cover up going on here, not only is this business/money we're talking about, but a culture where personal error resulted in self disembowlment in a not so distant past. 

This is an industrial accident and to be honest I doubt if has more impact than thalydamide (sp?) did, as far as numbers affected.   I profess ignorance at this next statement, but does anyone have evidence of cancer spikes from Chernobyl?  In all the heavy breathing, i've seen no one post here a reference to it during any of these fukushima discussions while they were busy shouting that the end of the western coast was upon us.


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:09 | 1268129 TaxSlave
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When there's denial, cover-up, retractions, and distractions, about all we have to go on is speculation about the inadvertent admissions they make in their announcements, only to be explained away later when someone reveals to them what they've accidentally revealed.  Like the high levels of short-lived isotopes, etc.

The fact that a lot of the speculation about how bad things are as far as getting the situation under control has turned out to be true only serves to empower the greenies.  The idiots in charge aren't doing anyone but the alarmists any favors with this bullshit.

Alarmists will conclude that anything with the word nuculer in it is bad.  I have concluded that any organization larger than a certain size, especially one that works on authoritarian control, simply guarantees that an incompetent idiot will inevitably be put in charge, or worse, a committee of them, suitably filtered by a political process that ensures the only skillset for success is the ability to simultaneously perform fellatio while backstabbing.

I still wonder about the condition of the 'two workers taken suddenly ill' in the first days of this.  Or the condition of the feet of the electricians sent in to work in puddles without friggin boots.  They wouldn't withold information from us, would they?

I'm not anti-nuke, never was.  But now I'm seriously beginning to question whether it is wise to leave power plants that are guaranteed to melt down if there is a sustained loss of power in the hands of the kinds of fools that rise to the top of governments and power companies.  They have succeeded in handing the greenies the kind of power that prevents installation of better, safer designs.  As with any government endeavor, we end up with the exact opposite of the stated goals, and we have to watch a constant parade of people proudly displaying their idiocy.

They can take their consensus-building, face-saving, dominance/submissive culture and rammit up their snout.  Anyone with brains enough to come up with a coherent solution to the problem has surely been run off years ago.  My experience with committees of experts is, the bigger the group, the more idiotic the conclusion will be.  I can't see any reason for this to turn out any different.

They've got two choices, it seems to me.  First, expose people to extreme risk, demolish the facilities, scoop up the debris, and disperse/cool/store the remains.  Not appealing.  Second, build the world's biggest swimming pool (or several), fill it, recirculate water through pumps and heat exchangers using ocean water on the clean side of the heat exchangers.  And run the pumps forever.  Not good, they can't put concrete under the site and what is there is already leaking.  Plus it would take years to build.

What do those with absolute authority do when faced with an untenable situation?  If past is prologue, the answer is always the same: human sacrifice.  Expect them to start asking for volunteers for demolition.

I hope I'm wrong.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:13 | 1268142 SoNH80
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I have a very close friend that served as a nuke engineer in the Navy.  His original response to Fuku was, "no biggie."  Military guys are trained/socialized to manage radiation risks effectively-- this training also serves to quiet the natural human fear of radiation (odorless, colorless, noiseless thing that can kill you at the drop of a hat).  So, military guys often disparage radiation fears as irrational, related to limited knowledge.  However, my Navy friend is very, very concerned about Fuku now-- and people here are mostly responding with dismay about the spectacle of seeing these reactors/fuel ponds burning like some tires in a dump, for weeks and weeks, and wondering-- Why TF won't they take more aggressive measures?

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:47 | 1268210 Cognitive Dissonance
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Our trained and conditioned mind will always revert to our basic programming memes when confronted by the unexpected. The more trained we are, the more likely it will be that we will feel that our training will save us. This is reinforced by the several times when our training did save us. 

Thus your example of the Navy nuke engineer brushing away concern. I too have a long time friend who works at a commercial nuclear plant and he also brushed aside worries two months ago. But he is also becoming increasingly alarmed now that time and reality are intruding upon his conditioned initial response. 

I talked last week with him and he kept on complaining, saying "I don't understand why they didn't do this or that." When I asked him what he would do if the same thing happened at the plant he worked at and his company and the government we trying to cover it up. Guess what his response was.

"They wouldn't try to cover it up." The conditioned mind reverts to its basic programming when confronted with the unexpected or what it perceives as impossible.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:42 | 1268548 SoNH80
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LFMayor's response (esp. part below) was eerily similar to my friend's e-mailed response at Week 0, but by Week "X" or whatnot.... right on, CD.

Now, seriously here... spare me the ignorance part. I was sent to a course on CBR and was a monitor at my command, ran a freaking geiger and 236 test kits while in full MOPP gear and I realize the dangers of calcium and iodine substitution.


Fri, 05/13/2011 - 10:48 | 1271700 chunga
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"They wouldn't try to cover it up."

Japan to Cover Damaged Nuclear Reactors with Giant Tents

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 18:01 | 1269779 Confuchius
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There was a recent Russian study released showing an additional 15 to 25 million cancer deaths over what would have normally been expected after many years.

OOf course the half million workers at the cleanup were included.


DDon't recall the link, but it must be on google.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:13 | 1267885 Bastiat
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Dance of the shitbirds

Every day at CNBC.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:17 | 1268415 dugorama
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we're not all dead yet (in the long run....), though cancer rates  have exploded in recent years.  running a Cesium fountain spewing into the atmosphere for the next few months is not going to help, either.  if you're so unconcerned, please go join a nuke disaster response team.  or maybe take one of the many open jobs at energy solutions handling waste. 

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:58 | 1267791 InconvenientCou...
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The regulators are all tools of governments I don't trust. Made up of a bunch of peopl eI don't know, and they regulate a bunch of stuff I can't see. They have a socialist/marxist/collectivist/nazi agenda anyway.

I don't need 'em to tell me armageddon is right around the corner.

STFU already. I'm eating.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:01 | 1267810 Commander Cody
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Caterpillar will build a super-sized bulldozer with a shielded operator's compartment to push the whole fucking mess into the sea.  Problem solved and the site can be reused.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:27 | 1267954 Midwest Prepper
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Yeah, until Godzilla gets ticked off and pushes it right back up onto land...

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 17:04 | 1269526 RichardENixon
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Maybe the Smog Monster can distract Godzilla long enough for the plan to work.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 18:08 | 1269795 Confuchius
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The site cannot be disposed of like an old tire. It will continue spewing for years. Why do you think putting it out of your line of sight would help? Is your IQ in the single digits?

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:03 | 1267822 Bokkenrijder
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With the silverprice collapsing, it's now time again for more Fukushima news?

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:12 | 1267871 sangell
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No! This is big news in Japan. They are back to square one with no idea how to cool those reactors other than just keep pumping water in and worry about where it is going after it is irradiated.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:54 | 1268070 trav7777
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the good news is, once they've washed the entire core out of the reactor, there won't be any more radionuclide release lol

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:12 | 1267872 dexter_morgan
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A better question would be why isn't this being covered by our MSM?

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:38 | 1268015 tsx500
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priority baby.  they've got much more important and pressing issues to cover like Bristol Palin's cosmetic surgery , and Lindsay Lohan's latest sentencing . 

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:46 | 1268241 Threeggg
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Same as:  Military complex/Nuclear Energy Complex

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:12 | 1267878 SheepDog-One
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Right, lets just only talk about when the next margin hike will hit PM's, so the silver trolls can have something to talk about!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 12:33 | 1268204 samsara
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Not good news from Marty


The Silver Crash of 2011?   MartinArmstrong pdf

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:04 | 1267826 NumberNone
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Tepco - "We put the 'Fuck You' in Fukushima."

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:15 | 1267875 augie
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There needs to be a community t-shirt slogan side business for zerohedge with classic comments like this one. Every hipster in the country would be rockin zh qoutes. Proceeds could even be divided with the poster.

(assuming the economy doesn't collapse before the shirts are made)

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:17 | 1267899 aerial view
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agree and add coffee mugs and bumper stickers; give them as gifts to the asleep sheeple (shleeple) friends and family with the hope that someday they will awaken from their deep denial of reality.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 14:48 | 1268901 sdmjake
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you can start by visiting WB7's '' site. Great ZH inspired stuff. Shoot, my coffee got junked by CD this morning!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:19 | 1267915 dexter_morgan
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Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:04 | 1267828 buzzsaw99
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To me "fully exposed" means a smoldering lump on the beach bitchez. :waiting:

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:07 | 1267831 lizzy36
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But Nuclear Expert Jim Cramer told me back on March 15 to keep buying stocks because Fukushima wasn't Chernobyl.

Had Japan endured a nuclear meltdown, Cramer thinks the markets would have sold-off, but the "Mad Money" host said a Chernobyl situation was never really on the table.Japan's nuclear plants have fail-safe that make a Chernobyl-like explosion unlikely, Cramer explained. There are multiple safeguards that would prevent an event of that magnitude, he added. The Chernobyl disaster

Despite the horrors of the natural disasters in Japan, Cramer pointed out that the economic recovery and economy in general has improved in the last week.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:31 | 1267985 carbonmutant
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Boil sloowwly.... ribbit.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:39 | 1268035 Alex Kintner
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Yup. Cramer has nuked many nest eggs. "Plutonium in the Streets" -- clearly a BUY signal.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:07 | 1267844 sangell
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The issue now is 'where did all the water go'. You can't set up a circulating cooling loop for those reactors if the water you pump in just gets contaminated and leaks out either into the water table or sea.

Think the most recent cesium level off Fukushima was 640,000 times the permitted level. Admittedly better than the 20 million times the radioactive iodine reached last month but still going to the beach in eastern Japan this summer is not for the faint hearted or those without lead swimsuits!

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:33 | 1268003 Jim in MN
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Correct.  That is what the much larded, er lauded AREVA contract is for: decontamination and recirculation.  But no one has ever done it, and they would be damn lucky in my opinion to get even 10% of the throughput needed after working on it for a year.


Without that they got nuthin; just a game of chicken with pumping water in and having it leak, vs. letting the rods heat up.  And of course we always knew it wasn't stable; one of the last things I posted here said:

"So it's basically the same as the reactor cores: hole in the bucket.  But the cores are holed halfway up the containment vessels, so the fuel rods stick up out of the water.  Here if they top it up and the condition doesn't deteriorate further, they can keep the rods submerged.  But where is the leaking water going to?  They don't know.  Will a leak get bigger?  They always do.  So time is not on their side here; a cracked concrete pool full of water suspended four stories high is not a stable thing, even without aftershocks and cyclones."

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:05 | 1268299 Threeggg
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There is no way to clean or re-circulate that volume of water. In a release from TEPCO (only in Japanese - Then google translated) last night they admitted to pouring in 10,000 tons of water a day "just" in the number 1 reactor.

 They are watering all 4 reactors and all the spent fuel pools concurrently. Our group conservatively estimates that they are "Skunking" 60,400,000 Gallons of water per week (very conservative) and dumping it into the sea.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 13:54 | 1268621 takinthehighway
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Thanks to you and the group for keeping an eye on things.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:11 | 1267845 TomGa
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Here's where to keep up to date on Fukushima news:

Of course Arnie always does a good job on specifics.


Thu, 05/12/2011 - 11:12 | 1267877 aerial view
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It's amazing (and depressing) that we have not yet learned from history that the irresponsible, incompetent and predatory actions of a few can ruin the lives of so many.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!