Fukushima Reactor 2 Core Has Melted Through Reactor

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Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:03 | 1140880 slow_roast
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S&P to 5,000,000,000 now.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:10 | 1140904 66Sexy
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'Dow Up on Japan Reconstruction Plans' - AP

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:19 | 1141003 Fish Gone Bad
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Three weeks or so ago, the world was coming to an end with disaster after disaster.  Nothing has been fixed, and things are actually a great deal worse than before because now tons and tons of radioactive water is killing Japan's fishing industry, and anyone dumb enough to eat the thyroid killing food.

So what happened?  Why billions and billions of dollars, yen and euros were fed into the "risk on" machine and the markets went up.  Nothing got fixed, just papered over.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:25 | 1141019 66Sexy
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Destruction is the Keynesian warm fuzzy blanket. Think of all the money they can create by lending to japan..... @ interest.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:29 | 1141092 bingaling
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Problem is will they want to rebuild? This is what is being misunderstood . Maybe the AP means the relocation of ....

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:44 | 1141144 66Sexy
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its a fake headline illustrating how ridiculous the measures of the financial media are in their attempts to attribute actual economic facts to what is in reality just fiat expanded margins and debt backed by debt ...unlimited money creation for speculators while they have regulatory capture.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:43 | 1141180 economessed
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And to me, the meta-level of ridiculousness is that we're spending any time at all trying to figure out how to profit from this epic disaster.

We certainly don't have a greed deficit.  We have a leadership and sanity deficit.  They'll be plent of time to make some money AFTER THE RADIATION IS CONTAINED AND WE SECURE OUR FOOD SUPPLIES IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN.

Jumpin jesus on a pogo stick - what is the plan to mitigate this disaster?

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:13 | 1141339 chumbawamba
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This is the plan.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 16:01 | 1142483 Drachma
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Agreed, another tool in the slow-kill arsenal. Chumbawamba knows all.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 09:12 | 1144816 collinar
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Re: "what is the plan to mitigate this disaster"?

Answer: Move to Earth number two.

Earth number one is FUBAR, since one microgram of Plutonium will kill you, and Reactor number 3 has several tonnes of the stuff.


Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:47 | 1141194 kaiserhoff
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Yes, who will build in Japan now, or hold their debt?  When, if ever, do their exports recover?

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:52 | 1141221 66Sexy
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the IMF would love some beachfront villas in Japan... y'know, to hold their secret meetings to plan the coup d' grace for America.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 15:14 | 1142223 Confuchius
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Your comment on the IMF makes it sound like some foreign devil. It is not. It is a 100% kriminal amerikan organization, like your banks, brokers, politicians and the rest of what used to pass for a government.




Wed, 04/06/2011 - 19:10 | 1143230 destiny
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I should think not...its an international organization ! the coup de grace will be given to Europe as well.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:53 | 1141227 Jack Mayoffer
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I say "Fire Sale" those Canon EF lenses I want, Japan!  Shit, now I have to google what part of the island they are made.  Upwind lenses only, please.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:55 | 1141248 Bananamerican
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+ millions of similar calculations....

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:18 | 1141354 linrom
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Who wants some sushi or shrimp creole? Or USDA GM meat pumped full of antibiotics? Who needs regulation?

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:27 | 1144208 Natasha Fatale
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Who needs food anyway?

Here's a tip: the smart money is long Soylent Green

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 15:26 | 1142303 Sokhmate
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I'm glad I've bought all the glass I need before the disaster, alas, Nikon.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:51 | 1141219 kaiserhoff
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Yes.  Who will build in Japan now?  Who wants to own their debt or real estate?  When, if ever, will exports recover, in what is fundamentally an export driven economy?

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 14:37 | 1142057 Banjo
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There is nothing about Keynes writing that said you spend more than you earn all the time. Indeed Keynes explicitly mentioned that in good times you build savings and then during a downturn you can be counter cyclical spend those savings and perhaps a little more (i.e. deficit)

Keynes was actually a pretty  smart guy and was not attached to any dogma including his own. I have not read all his work but he was a man who changed his mind and adapted to circumstances as the world around him changed.

If you have the time google Dying of Money by Jens O Parson. A really good read and some background on Keynes and the inflation mess most governments end up in.


Thu, 04/07/2011 - 04:41 | 1144458 slimfinger
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Keynes' "debt is power" ideology is embraced and force-fed to the world because it suits the banks and central controllers.  It's that simple.


Sat, 04/09/2011 - 15:58 | 1153727 Banjo
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Keynes' "debt is power" ideology is embraced and force-fed to the world because it suits the banks and central controllers.  It's that simple.

Yes simple incorrect and not even based on the facts, an example of wanton igonrance.

More power to you though.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:29 | 1141089 DavidC
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Yup, exactly like 2008 except with no radiation then...


Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:31 | 1141093 A Man without Q...
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I reckon Bernanke gives BofA the inside track on a lot of these ramp jobs.  He knows that he's in a lot of trouble for his role in the ML deal if he doesn't do something to make the shareholders happy.  

Crony capitalism at its finest...

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:30 | 1141417 knukles
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Law of Unintended Consequences takes hold.

How happy are the boys and girls at Mother Merril that they got (jammed) saved by BofA.

Regulation at its finest.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:06 | 1141309 Piranhanoia
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We start over. So we have 3 eyes. That's even better than 3D. 

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 13:11 | 1141635 pyite
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I think you guys are, as usual, overstating things.  Here is a link to the DoE/NNSA report from Monday:


It is a serious situation but the uninformed hysteria isn't helping.


Wed, 04/06/2011 - 14:08 | 1141922 espirit
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...and neither is your un-attainable link to credibility. Trust in govt requires eyes in the back of the head.

Maybe we'll get there yet.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 16:44 | 1142665 Stormdancer
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Talk to us when the spewing of new radioactive materials has ceased.  Kinda hard to overstate  something still in progress with many possible predictable paths that would result in much worse releases.


And go ahead and move your family to Chiba prefecture while you're at it.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:20 | 1141005 flattrader
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See http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/

for the latests updates.

Notice the German wind map has the radioactive plume blowing south over the ocean and then back north across Japan and Korea, grazing China.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 13:13 | 1141649 pyite
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By "plume" I'll assume you mean a barely detectable too-low-to-cause-any-problems amount of radio-iodine.


Wed, 04/06/2011 - 13:24 | 1141714 tmosley
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You haven't been paying attention.  The plume is full of radioactive materials that are contaminating anything and everything they touch.  It might be dilute enough to no longer be a problem once it gets to the US, but it is causing a lot of cancers right now, and the land itself will be "uninhabitable" a la the Chernobyl exclusion zone before this is over (which is now apparently going to be never).

Normalcy bias is your new name.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 17:15 | 1142781 espirit
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Plume of fume, that's burning metals hopium head.  Radioactive burning metals of the worst kind.

Breathe freely now...

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 13:38 | 1141795 slewie the pi-rat
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t.y. for including the link, flattrader.

ahem...slewie mentioned this "viable" possibility to aristarchan, last week, right here in river city, when he was down-playing everything, including the size of these reactors, compared to chernobyl, while questioning him about the real possibilities of "intermittent re-criticality" which he then was kind unuf to respond to, in the affirmative, while poo-poo-ing the serious of all this, of course. 

Jim in MN was doing the math for his great "cesium analysis" at the time and bob_d had to slug ari pretty hard to keep him from nuking Jim's analysis before he finished and posted it!

i wonder if ari isn't gonna hafta come to grips with his "biases" here, soon, and stop projecting them on those who are more "alamist" then the nuclear industry finds comfy, right now...

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 13:51 | 1141838 slewie the pi-rat
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that said, and reuters and ed markey considered, i do not consider their pronouncements proof of the melt-through.  just punched up fairewinds; nothing there, yet.  so, i'll continue to say that it looks like we may have such a problem in #2.  where's rodney dangerfield when ya need him?

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:21 | 1141012 the mad hatter
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Meltup caused by a meltdown?

Oy vey what a whacky world we live in.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:05 | 1141290 chindit13
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You are confused by the curvature of the Earth.  Easy mistake to make.  Japan and New York are on opposite sides of the world, so what melts down in Japan is up relative to New York.  Go with the flow.  Ride that neutron beam to da moon!

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:27 | 1141410 Amish Hacker
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Here's a link to see what's on the opposite side of the world from anywhere: http://www.freemaptools.com/tunnel-to-other-side-of-the-earth.htm

Opposite to Fukushima puts you in the south Atlantic, off the coast of Brazil.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 14:51 | 1142109 andybev01
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'Hacker; totally cool link.

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 16:55 | 1142719 Urban Redneck
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shit, then my farm might be down wind

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 14:22 | 1142001 moneymutt
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nice one

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:29 | 1141080 Urban Redneck
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Reconstruction can't start until they neutralize the radioactive situation.  But the Dow will up anyway.



Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:50 | 1141211 Jim in MN
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Do you think Operation Huge Sheet has a shot?  Have you seen the details? 

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:06 | 1141297 Urban Redneck
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What I read was that Operation Huge Sheet somehow magically combined flexible material and structural reinforcement that would save what's left the building in the event of the next quake.  Either the author or the guy at TEPCO who told him about it must have been suffering radiation induced delusions.  I am hoping for a better article or a link to manufacturer's spec sheet for this wonderful product so I can better understand what they were trying to state in the first place.   

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:08 | 1141318 Jim in MN
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Best I got--they hope to intercept airflow, not protect the buildings--more like Odor Eaters or dryer fabric softener sheets or something--Operation Snuggle?:

Radiation-shielding sheets to be installed in Sept. at earliest

TOKYO, April 6, Kyodo

A plan to cover damaged reactor buildings at the crisis-hit Fukushima nuclear plant with special sheets to halt radiation leakage cannot offer a quick remedy, as the sheeting will be installed in September at the earliest due to high-level radioactivity hampering work at the site, government sources said Tuesday.

The government had asked Tokyo Electric Power Co., operator of the Fukushima Daiichi power station crippled by the March 11 quake and tsunami, to study the installment of radiation-shielding sheets, and a major construction firm commissioned to examine the idea said the construction will not start until June, the sources told Kyodo News.

They said workers need to wait until radiation levels drop at the site, where hydrogen explosions have blown away the roofs and upper walls of three reactor buildings.

Some nuclear experts have been skeptical about the feasibility of the plan as they believe the step would have only limited effects in blocking the release of radioactive substances into the environment.

In a meeting Tuesday of a team tasked with halting the leakage of radioactive substances from the plant under a task force set up by the government and the operator known as TEPCO, the construction firm gave prospects for the work schedule, the sources said.

At the gathering, a specialist from the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission said the structure of the special sheets should guarantee that spent nuclear fuel pools in the reactor buildings will not be damaged even if the sheeting is toppled by quakes or typhoons, according to the sources.

Specialists in the government are planning to stem possible surges in radiation levels or further explosions in the reactor buildings to be wrapped by the sheets, by attaching materials that absorb radioactive materials to the inner side of the sheeting and installing air vents with filters to let out hydrogen, they said.

At the plant, TEPCO has been spraying water-soluble resin that has a coating effect to prevent radioactive particles from being dispersed by wind and rain. But the resin does not have effects to shield radiation.

The costs of building framed structures around the Nos. 1-4 reactor buildings and wrapping them with the special sheets are estimated to reach 80 billion yen.


Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:32 | 1141435 Urban Redneck
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My bad- TEPCO & NRC, only short 1 stooge.

There are timeline issues-

if today = april, startdate = june, and endate = september, but startdate is dependent in lowered radiation at the site, then the whole thing is a non-starter, but its the nuclear science that's beyond me- will the readiation level drop at the job site?  


Wed, 04/06/2011 - 14:18 | 1141972 davepowers
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Operation Panty Liner?

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 20:34 | 1143506 StychoKiller
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Arrgghh!  The Stupid, it burns!

Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:23 | 1141386 Byte Me
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If that refers to Japanese 'shrouds' then "maybe". I worked it into this proposal:


Prepared to suggest bauxite via nautical delivery in place of granite.

(I really,really hate talking my own book.)

Preventing damage to reactor containment seems moot at this stage.

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