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Full List Of 2011 Bilderberg Conference Attendees

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Many have asked for it, so here it is: the full list of gentlemen (and ladies) attending this year's Bilderberg conference. Some wonder if like in previous years, when following the group's 2009 and 2010 meetings in Greece and Spain, the host countries have subsequently had to deal with some sad episodes of sovereign insolvency, if 2011 host Switzerland, despite its ironclad Swiss National Bank (except for all those dollars on the balance sheet of course) may be next...

Venue location: Suvretta House, St. Moritz.

Full participant list:

Belgium

  • Coene, Luc, Governor, National Bank of Belgium
  • Davignon, Etienne, Minister of State
  • Leysen, Thomas, Chairman, Umicore

China

  • Fu, Ying, Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs
  • Huang, Yiping, Professor of Economics, China Center for Economic Research, Peking University

Denmark

  • Eldrup, Anders, CEO, DONG Energy
  • Federspiel, Ulrik, Vice President, Global Affairs, Haldor Topsøe A/S
  • Schütze, Peter, Member of the Executive Management, Nordea Bank AB

Germany

  • Ackermann, Josef, Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank
  • Enders, Thomas, CEO, Airbus SAS
  • Löscher, Peter, President and CEO, Siemens AG
  • Nass, Matthias, Chief International Correspondent, Die Zeit
  • Steinbrück, Peer, Member of the Bundestag; Former Minister of Finance

Finland

  • Apunen, Matti, Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
  • Johansson, Ole, Chairman, Confederation of the Finnish Industries EK
  • Ollila, Jorma, Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
  • Pentikäinen, Mikael, Publisher and Senior Editor-in-Chief, Helsingin Sanomat

France

  • Baverez, Nicolas, Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
  • Bazire, Nicolas, Managing Director, Groupe Arnault /LVMH
  • Castries, Henri de, Chairman and CEO, AXA
  • Lévy, Maurice, Chairman and CEO, Publicis Groupe S.A.
  • Montbrial, Thierry de, President, French Institute for International Relations
  • Roy, Olivier, Professor of Social and Political Theory, European University Institute

Great Britain

  • Agius, Marcus, Chairman, Barclays PLC
  • Flint, Douglas J., Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings
  • Kerr, John, Member, House of Lords; Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
  • Lambert, Richard, Independent Non-Executive Director, Ernst & Young
  • Mandelson, Peter, Member, House of Lords; Chairman, Global Counsel
  • Micklethwait, John, Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
  • Osborne, George, Chancellor of the Exchequer
  • Stewart, Rory, Member of Parliament
  • Taylor, J. Martin, Chairman, Syngenta International AG

Greece

  • David, George A., Chairman, Coca-Cola H.B.C. S.A.
  • Hardouvelis, Gikas A., Chief Economist and Head of Research, Eurobank EFG
  • Papaconstantinou, George, Minister of Finance
  • Tsoukalis, Loukas, President, ELIAMEP Grisons

International Organizations

  • Almunia, Joaquín, Vice President, European Commission
  • Daele, Frans van, Chief of Staff to the President of the European Council
  • Kroes, Neelie, Vice President, European Commission; Commissioner for Digital Agenda
  • Lamy, Pascal, Director General, World Trade Organization
  • Rompuy, Herman van, President, European Council
  • Sheeran, Josette, Executive Director, United Nations World Food Programme
  • Solana Madariaga, Javier, President, ESADEgeo Center for Global Economy and Geopolitics
  • Trichet, Jean-Claude, President, European Central Bank
  • Zoellick, Robert B., President, The World Bank Group

Ireland

  • Gallagher, Paul, Senior Counsel; Former Attorney General
  • McDowell, Michael, Senior Counsel, Law Library; Former Deputy Prime Minister
  • Sutherland, Peter D., Chairman, Goldman Sachs International

Italy

  • Bernabè, Franco, CEO, Telecom Italia SpA
  • Elkann, John, Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.
  • Monti, Mario, President, Univers Commerciale Luigi Bocconi
  • Scaroni, Paolo, CEO, Eni S.p.A.
  • Tremonti, Giulio, Minister of Economy and Finance

Canada

  • Carney, Mark J., Governor, Bank of Canada
  • Clark, Edmund, President and CEO, TD Bank Financial Group
  • McKenna, Frank, Deputy Chair, TD Bank Financial Group
  • Orbinksi, James, Professor of Medicine and Political Science, University of Toronto
  • Prichard, J. Robert S., Chair, Torys LLP
  • Reisman, Heather, Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc. Center, Brookings Institution

Netherlands

  • Bolland, Marc J., Chief Executive, Marks and Spencer Group plc
  • Chavannes, Marc E., Political Columnist, NRC Handelsblad; Professor of Journalism
  • Halberstadt, Victor, Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings
  • H.M. the Queen of the Netherlands
  • Rosenthal, Uri, Minister of Foreign Affairs
  • Winter, Jaap W., Partner, De Brauw Blackstone Westbroek

Norway

  • Myklebust, Egil, Former Chairman of the Board of Directors SAS, sk Hydro ASA
  • H.R.H. Crown Prince Haakon of Norway
  • Ottersen, Ole Petter, Rector, University of Oslo
  • Solberg, Erna, Leader of the Conservative Party

Austria

  • Bronner, Oscar, CEO and Publisher, Standard Medien AG
  • Faymann, Werner, Federal Chancellor
  • Rothensteiner, Walter, Chairman of the Board, Raiffeisen Zentralbank Österreich AG
  • Scholten, Rudolf, Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG

Portugal

  • Balsemão, Francisco Pinto, Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA, S.G.P.S.; Former Prime Minister
  • Ferreira Alves, Clara, CEO, Claref LDA; writer
  • Nogueira Leite, António, Member of the Board, José de Mello Investimentos, SGPS, SA

Sweden

  • Mordashov, Alexey A., CEO, Severstal
  • Bildt, Carl, Minister of Foreign Affairs
  • Björling, Ewa, Minister for Trade
  • Wallenberg, Jacob, Chairman, Investor AB

Switzerland

  • Brabeck-Letmathe, Peter, Chairman, Nestlé S.A.
  • Groth, Hans, Senior Director, Healthcare Policy & Market Access, Oncology Business Unit, Pfizer Europe
  • Janom Steiner, Barbara, Head of the Department of Justice, Security and Health, Canton
  • Kudelski, André, Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group SA
  • Leuthard, Doris, Federal Councillor
  • Schmid, Martin, President, Government of the Canton Grisons
  • Schweiger, Rolf, Ständerat
  • Soiron, Rolf, Chairman of the Board, Holcim Ltd., Lonza Ltd.
  • Vasella, Daniel L., Chairman, Novartis AG
  • Witmer, Jürg, Chairman, Givaudan SA and Clariant AG

Spain

  • Cebrián, Juan Luis, CEO, PRISA
  • Cospedal, María Dolores de, Secretary General, Partido Popular
  • León Gross, Bernardino, Secretary General of the Spanish Presidency
  • Nin Génova, Juan María, President and CEO, La Caixa
  • H.M. Queen Sofia of Spain

Turkey

  • Ciliv, Süreyya, CEO, Turkcell Iletisim Hizmetleri A.S.
  • Gülek Domac, Tayyibe, Former Minister of State
  • Koç, Mustafa V., Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
  • Pekin, Sefika, Founding Partner, Pekin & Bayar Law Firm

USA

  • Alexander, Keith B., Commander, USCYBERCOM; Director, National Security Agency
  • Altman, Roger C., Chairman, Evercore Partners Inc.
  • Bezos, Jeff, Founder and CEO, Amazon.com
  • Collins, Timothy C., CEO, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC
  • Feldstein, Martin S., George F. Baker Professor of Economics, Harvard University
  • Hoffman, Reid, Co-founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn
  • Hughes, Chris R., Co-founder, Facebook
  • Jacobs, Kenneth M., Chairman & CEO, Lazard
  • Johnson, James A., Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC
  • Jordan, Jr., Vernon E., Senior Managing Director, Lazard Frères & Co. LLC
  • Keane, John M., Senior Partner, SCP Partners; General, US Army, Retired
  • Kissinger, Henry A., Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
  • Kleinfeld, Klaus, Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
  • Kravis, Henry R., Co-Chairman and co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis, Roberts & Co.
  • Kravis, Marie-Josée, Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute, Inc.
  • Li, Cheng, Senior Fellow and Director of Research, John L. Thornton China Center, Brookings Institution
  • Mundie, Craig J., Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation
  • Orszag, Peter R., Vice Chairman, Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.
  • Perle, Richard N., Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
  • Rockefeller, David, Former Chairman, Chase Manhattan Bank
  • Rose, Charlie, Executive Editor and Anchor, Charlie Rose
  • Rubin, Robert E., Co-Chairman, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
  • Schmidt, Eric, Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
  • Steinberg, James B., Deputy Secretary of State
  • Thiel, Peter A., President, Clarium Capital Management, LLC
  • Varney, Christine A., Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust
  • Vaupel, James W., Founding Director, Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research
  • Warsh, Kevin, Former Governor, Federal Reserve Board
  • Wolfensohn, James D., Chairman, Wolfensohn & Company, LLC

Source: Infowars

 

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Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:44 | 1359877 Reptil
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&

Warburg, Rothschild.

Royal houses of Windsor and of Oranje-Nassau.

those are the obvious ones.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:55 | 1359914 knukles
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And the infamous City of London, behind whose mayor, the Queen walks.
Telling, eh?
Dr. Freud!  Calling Dr. Freud!

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:25 | 1360022 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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He wouldn't be concerned with that, his head in the Egyptian sand.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 03:34 | 1360802 Herd Redirectio...
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But that is symbolic of the City of London (the king makers, running both religion, politics and finance) being ahead of the Queen, its not that the current Mayor is higher in the hierarchy, IMO.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:03 | 1359941 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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BP is Rotheschilde

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:56 | 1360095 Tuco Benedicto ...
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"How dare you" mention our patriotic ex-president in such a negative light.  Next you're going to accuse him of selling military secrets to the Chinese in 1996 in exchange for campaign cash.  I say again, how dare you!

 

Tuco Benedcito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 17:45 | 1359658 duncecap rack
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Off topic, sorry, but does anyone hear anything about the empire state rebellion thing or did it fizzle?

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:15 | 1359822 falak pema
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14 june you are expected to attend. Without your skis but with your ski poles!

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 17:42 | 1359660 ElvisDog
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Damn, why hasn't my invite showed up in the mail yet? Hillary and I have some unresolved sexual tension to work out.

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:04 | 1359739 Sean7k
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Whoa, no visuals like that on a friday. Bad dog...

Fri, 06/10/2011 - 17:44 | 1359666 Wannabee
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  • Varney, Christine A., Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust
  •  

    Now I feel better, knowing there wasn't any collusion going on...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:29 | 1359838 IQ 145
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     It really is enough to make you gag. As a news item it fits into a paradigm that's working for me these days; you can anounce anything you want; no-one is paying attention, no one will analyze the anouncement; no one will notice; what a superb tool for enforcement of policy is the office of AG for Antitrust; one phone call can convinvince the CEO, "they didn't really want to do that"; and it will remain unknown to the public. "Scientific Dictatorship"; how charming.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 22:28 | 1360402 CD
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    LOL, exactly the point I was thinking about noting. The irony is so rich, you can spread it on toast.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 17:51 | 1359677 JW n FL
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    $18 Trillion divided by 3 years ='s $6 Trillion in New Supply is Printed a Year!

     

    $6 Trillion Dollars divided by 365 days ='s $1,643,835,6164 a Day in in New Supply is Printed a Day!!

     

    $1,643,835,6164 Billion a Day divided by 24 hours in a Day ='s $684,931,506 an hour in New Supply is Printed an Hour!!!

     

    http://goo.gl/FnxBZ  Treasury Direct $14 Trillion Debt

    http://goo.gl/TMl74   $15 Trillion in Loans

    http://goo.gl/EXzal  / ='s $29T

    *****************************************************************************

     

    Big Question @ the meeting this year is..

    Where is the $100 Trillion from Davos? did we spend that already?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/8267768/World-needs-100-trillion-more-credit-says-World-Economic-Forum.html

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 17:53 | 1359700 Wannabee
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    JW,

    they're so punch drunk with cash from the last few years, they wouldn't recognize a few T missing.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:29 | 1360028 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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    Our silver heist continues. 

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 17:55 | 1359706 Sean7k
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    The list is pretty lightweight this year. Looks like they are just pressing out the wrinkles.

    If Al Queda was really a terrorist organization, they would hit this. Funny, this never makes their list of targets...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:06 | 1359744 Wannabee
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    Sean,

    No CEO from Groupon nor Zynga. Lightweight list indeed.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:49 | 1360077 Tuco Benedicto ...
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    Correct, the CIA woudn't think of blowing up their bosses.

     

    Tuco

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:00 | 1359708 pauldia
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     No Soros? And BTW, do you think this American attendee is there to make sure the internet is kept open, free uncensored, and unregulated????? 

     

    Alexander, Keith B., Commander, USCYBERCOM; Director, National Security Agency

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:09 | 1359756 traderjoe
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    Linkdin, Google, Amazon, Microsoft all represented.

    All of your Internets belong to us...

    p.s. don't do it now, but won't buy anything on Amazon anytime soon...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:18 | 1360004 MissCellany
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    And Facebook too...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 20:02 | 1360113 Cathartes Aura
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    Bill "stealth vaccine" Gates just bought Skype, that's now a no-go area, sigh.

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 01:26 | 1360678 zaknick
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    The Internet is now the interface with them.

    one brief spark of light for mankind, an eternity of bankster rule

    the only reason for them to be doing this is for thinning the herd

    oh shit, ZH is the honeypot!

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 00:05 | 1360550 SaveTheBales
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    I disagree, but only as long as you know they are watching, you buy what you want them to see. 

    And for my money, that's just begging for a little Bleacher Levity.

    You are who you say you are.  You even put up a pic....

     

     

     

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:25 | 1359815 tip e. canoe
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    Georgie's on the other team, see doom's comment for who runs this one.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:02 | 1359714 THE DORK OF CORK
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    It has the makings of a Good Bond film , however I would like to see more of Diana Rigg rather then Peter Sutherland .

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILf_aHUm1ew

     

     

    The Irish crew are the most despicable Irishmen I know of and if that is a litmus test for the rest of them then its not very encouraging.

    I wonder what their secret name is SMERSH, THRUSH or is it CONTROL

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:38 | 1359858 IQ 145
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     I'd rather see more of almost anyone than Peter Sutherland; I like the way you think.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:46 | 1359896 mynhair
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    Yes, PeePee Sutherland does look like Blofeld.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 17:58 | 1359715 SMG
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    Not all.  Kissenger and Rockefeller are pretty high ranking in the oligarchy, and I would guess have some autonomy.  I wish I had a complete list of the leadership to post,  maybe Tyler would have more luck finding out.  There is purposely alot of misinformation out there about the true structure of the oligarchy.   That's one of the ways they get away with so much evil.  The right people never take the blame and recieve justice.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:21 | 1359790 sgt_doom
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    Just cross reference the membership lists of the following:

    Group of Thirty

    Peterson Institute

    Trilateral Commission

    Bretton Woods Committee

    Council on Foreign Relations (senior 100)

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:02 | 1359722 Van Halen
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    Economy? Banks? Wars?

    Tut! Tut!

    All focus on Weinergate and the Palin emails! Don't look over the white wall! Don't make eye contact with the guards! Nothing to see here, move along! Hope and change right around the corner! Move along!

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:00 | 1359946 knukles
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    Blo n' Skank

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:01 | 1359726 Stoploss
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    Maybe a wayward tomohawk?

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:02 | 1359732 John McCloy
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    Zuckerberg also attended. For a meeting that advertises itself as "one in which the wealthy gather to just chit chat" I wonder why it is necessary to manhandle and arrest politicians from EU nations for attempting entrance. Security would not be this tight if there were not a reason. 

    http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/more-going-on-at-bilderberg-meetin...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:17 | 1359776 magpie
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    Perhaps one could gauge his true importance to the power play if a check of the attendees during the late 90s were possible; new economy, after IPO not powerbroker much ?

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:31 | 1359834 Bob
    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:07 | 1359750 John McCloy
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    Bezos, Warsh, Rubin and Altman..

    Who is Altman?? Well he is the owner of the National Enquirer and one of the Wall Street elites. If you remember during Fin Reg there was a story for 1 day and one day only about allegations of Pres. Obama and Vera Baker having an affair during his Senate campaign. It was only reported by the National Enquirer along with rumors of "Alleged Video proving a dalliance occurred"

       As soon as Pres. Obama went to bed on Glass-Steagall and kept quiet in the rest of the process the story literaly disappeared the next day. Also in return for his slience wouldnt you know that Altman was considered to replace Summer last year. It all goes straight to the top folks..A self annointed monarchy of the Wall Street cartel.

    http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/79231/altman-may-succeed-summers-r...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:26 | 1359807 sgt_doom
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    "Who is Altman??"

    Altman was an Obama advisor during his presidential campaign.

    Also, former Blackstone Group guy (Blackstone Group, for many years the number one private bank, perhaps still is, was originally co-founded by Davy Rockefeller's boy, Peter G. Peterson, and bankrolled by Rocky).

    Altman also had a lobbyist group which supplied the assistant chief of staff to Obama, and was partnered with a neocon lobbyist group which had been involved with the inteference of that Florida vote recount in 2000.

    Gee whiz, it is a small world after all!

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:32 | 1359847 John McCloy
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      What are the odds...such brilliant people in one small place I supposed we should count ourselves lucky. So I guess the question really is...

      Why would someone so close to Pres. Obama permit a story linking him to Vera Baker to be run in his publication? I think we know the answer to that. Luckily the American Idolites have no idea.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:48 | 1359891 IQ 145
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     control of public perception; scientific dictatorship. Is it alright if I go throw up for awhile; I'm not feeling very well.

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 15:17 | 1361499 sethstorm
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    The same National Enquirer that decided to smear John Edwards?

    While it may be a coincidence if so, they would have something to gain by ending his career.  

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:10 | 1359759 wang
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    Peter R. Orszag, Vice Chairman, Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

     

    (whilst in his position in the White House Dr. Orzag had no say whatsoever and was not party to any meetings that had anything to do with the bailout of Citi - right?) of course a guy does have to feed the family

     

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29415050/

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:25 | 1359821 sgt_doom
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    Prior to joining the Obama administration, Orszag was at Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project at Brookings.

    That's the project which is hellbent on privatizing everything!  (That translates to the monopoly of everything!)

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:33 | 1359841 Bob
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    No wonder Barry hired him. 

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:11 | 1359763 alien-IQ
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    interesting that Charlie Rose is there (again)...and yet despite all of his journalistic "cache"...he's never once (to my knowledge) so much as mentioned the name Bilderberg on his or any other program.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:24 | 1359811 sgt_doom
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    Although Charlie has had a bunch of the Bilderberg boys on as his guests, most recently Henry Kissinger, Peter Thiel, Billybob Gates....

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:56 | 1359901 alien-IQ
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    yes he's had Peace Prize Henry on the show several times. by the way...speaking of Kissinger...if you've never seen "The Trials of Henry Kissinger"...here's the full thing on youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lq2tlV61WY

    it's pretty damn good...if your into docs about nobel peace prize winning war criminals...which I am.

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 09:42 | 1360976 DaveyJones
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    thanks. Henry sure is a piece...of many things

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 21:14 | 1360265 Dirt Rat
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    That's that only people Charlie Rose has on his program-- the global elites talking their book.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:14 | 1359764 Alea Iacta Est
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    Geee, I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to meet in Greece or Spain again.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:22 | 1359785 John McCloy
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    Also keep in mind they usually randomly choose to met in America during the Pres. election years. The biggest "go to sleep mainstream" ever was the disappearance of Pres. Obama and Clinton during the Bilderberg meeting while both were running for President. Only if the media is 100% complicit because they play part in these meetings could this take place without so much as a whimper out of the news. Yet look to todays headlines and see that Selena Gomez was sick to find out why they create what they deem necessary and pertinent for you us to digest. They think we are simpletons.

       The sides both lied to the media so they could attend where a deal was made for Hillary to become Sec of State and step down so Obama could run unimpeded. 

       Conveniently 4 days after the secret Bilderberg meeting Hillary stepped down. These people are trying to run a world government,

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:26 | 1359825 sgt_doom
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    Dude, the world gov't is a done deal (WTO), they're chief concern is the One World Corporation which owns everything!

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:43 | 1359880 Pure Evil
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    They're not trying to run a world government.

    They, ARE, successfully running a world government.

    Some of us might not want to acknowledge that fact, but the world government has been in place for decades.

    Some might even suggest it goes back centuries to the Roman Empire.

    They may be doing a "shitty" job in some people's opinions, but from their perspective, they're right on track with their agenda.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:03 | 1359939 SMG
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    +1 Unfortunately you are correct.

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 06:50 | 1360793 New World Chaos
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    Yes, very close to the truth.  Satan inside.  The world government IS Lucifer, an emergent collective consciousness of the financial system and its oligarchs, and he is at least as old as Rome.  That's where Lucifer learned the first rule of being a parasite:  Don't kill the host.  But Lucifer fully intends to kill America (while making a sweet profit, of course).  That's why we are being clusterfucked from all directions, and why every policy ends up benefiting parasites and sociopaths, who are all neurons in Lucifer's brain.  Most of our leaders did not know they were channeling Lucifer but none of them were incompetent, not even Bush- look at everything that he achieved!  

    Lucifer is skullfucking America because we have interfered with his dreams of world domination multiple times, most recently by creating the Internet.  The Internet is also an emergent mind, and it is the only imminent threat to Luciferian dominance.  Hence the attempt to co-opt the wealthy gatekeepers of the Internet.  When this fails, we will have a false flag cyberattack and an attempt at total lockdown.  I am guessing this will happen within a year, because the CIA now has its eye on Bitcoin.  Lucifer now knows the Internet is going for his jugular.

    Ultimately I think the Internet will win, we will take it to the stars and it will become a key part of a giant cosmic consciousness which will create entire universes (perhaps including our own).  Basically, we will end up creating God.  This scares Lucifer shitless, and explains why the oligarchs killed the space program and SETI.  That and the dread of Space Wild West.

    If you doubt that humans are the highest-level minds on this planet, look at the distinct "personalities" of the Net and Lucifer.  You can trace their influences in the world by knowing what each one likes:

    Freedom vs. control.  Sharing information vs. secrecy.  Truth vs. lies and false assumptions.  Empowering the individual vs. empowering governments, large corporations, and bureaucracies.  Free market vs. central planning.  Lulz vs. no lulz.  Inherent value vs. perceived value.  Objective reality vs. perception as reality.  Treating the disease vs. treating the symptom.  Creativity vs. conformity.  Motivation with curiosity vs. motivation with greed, powerlust, or a thug's gun hidden under a stack of incomprehensible papers.  Alturistim vs. sociopathy.  Production vs. parasitism.  Status from your talents vs. status from what (or who) you can buy.  Bringing your soul to life vs. crushing it.  A life of meaning vs. a life of mind-rotting TV and meaningless consumer crap.  An interconnedted community vs. a society where all the little people are isolated in prisons they cannot see.  Science vs. stasis.  Uniting us vs. dividing us against each other and exploiting the crisis to consolidate power.  The individual good as the public good vs. "Think of the children!" as a means to public evil.  Perhaps most importantly, the Net sees most humans as partners in creating its mind, whereas Lucifer sees most humans as hosts. 
    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 07:13 | 1360864 Oh regional Indian
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    Veeeeeeery interesting take.

    ORI

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 12:21 | 1361191 YHC-FTSE
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    Take out the bible references and it's a superb analysis. Very well thought-out chronicle of the information age.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:15 | 1359768 pesamystik
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    That's what happens when you let Jews in your country. They infiltrate and take take take.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:32 | 1359849 Bear
    Bear's picture

    "let Jews in your country" ?

    Oh! ... much worse to "let Jews in your country" than a torrent of Muslims?

    Oh! ... I do think the Jews have been in “your country” for a millennia.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:05 | 1359959 svendthrift
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    Funny you should mention that:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJuaTIZdUKc

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:54 | 1359924 IQ 145
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     You have the mind of a child.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:55 | 1359927 SMG
    SMG's picture

    Not Jews, Illuminati.  But you are correct we are letting them.  We need everyone to understand the oligarchy and act against them.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:39 | 1360049 Tuco Benedicto ...
    Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez's picture

    Be reasonable!  Israel only wants the land tangential to that which they already own.  Seems reasonable.  Right!?

     

    Let's just move the U. S. capital to Tel Aviv and make it official!

     

    Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:47 | 1360071 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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    I care not what a man's religion is, as long as he has one. 

    -David Rockefeller

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:15 | 1359769 ghostfaceinvestah
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    Wonder if they will all show?

    According to a letter on the Bilderberg conference addressed to Simonetta Sommaruga, a National Council member and head of the Jura Police Department, Jura representative Dominique Baettig is calling for the arrest of conference participants who are internationally wanted for war crimes (George W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, Dick Cheney, and Richard Perle). Based on the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, such action is called for when a country makes a referral or response to an initiative by the U.N. Security Council, or by its own prosecuting authority.

    http://worldmeets.us/ http://worldmeets.us/suedostschweiz000001.shtml#ixzz1Ouj3TYop

     

     

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:22 | 1359809 Sean7k
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    First off, governments are not on the same level of authority as these people. The meetings are secured by the CIA and they are not in a diplomatic mood. Nice try for a little people press. Too bad no one pays attention...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:30 | 1359824 Bear
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    Funny how it’s only individual Americans guilty of War crimes ... a lot of countries have been shooting up places like Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and a dozen African nations where ten times as many people have died from genocidal evil    

     

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:31 | 1359845 falak pema
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    nobody kills like the americans these last decades...first Vietnam then Iraq...don't feel jealous if others have joined in recently...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:33 | 1359855 Bear
    Bear's picture

    American envy is not a recent development.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:37 | 1359864 Bear
    Bear's picture

    How about five million in the Republic of the Congo? How about Serbian geneocide, or Turkish, or Russian. If you want to write history, you may want objectivity as an ally and not ideology.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:06 | 1359954 falak pema
    falak pema's picture

    Well you are right about the civil wars in Africa. But they were all organised by corporate plays around RM in Congo, Nigeria, Angola, Rwanda etc. First amongst these multinational nations are the USA, main interest in "dogs of war" and "blood diamond" scenarios. If you saw the film "the Company" you would remember those bell chimes in Leopoldville in 1961...when the CIA liquidated Lumumba. As for the Yugo tragedy and Serbia/croatia/Bosnia aftermath it was the break-up of East Europe after the Berlin wall fall. And they ARE being tried those war criminals. Turkey goes back to 1915 and USSR/ China was a horror story in its own league. But USA is a democracy, that went rogue like no other..That's what makes US criminal behavior so unique...A democracy, beacon of the world under FDR...and look what happened to it...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:13 | 1359773 marcusfenix
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    alas, my kingdom for just one well placed, well timed daisycutter...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:22 | 1359805 mynhair
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    (my vote for best comment)

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:27 | 1360026 topcallingtroll
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    Quote of the day. I second that.

    We need a zero hedge hall of fame.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 22:29 | 1360403 JW n FL
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    that is a winner for a records hall for sure!

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:26 | 1359802 mynhair
    mynhair's picture

    DONG energy?  Is that a Weiner joke?

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 13:56 | 1361347 jimhalpert
    jimhalpert's picture

    good for a few minutes then needs recharging

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:25 | 1359803 Cheesy Bastard
    Cheesy Bastard's picture

    A fine list of sturdy, trustworthy sounding names.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:28 | 1359831 falak pema
    falak pema's picture

    they are all, all cheese eaters...so why aren't you there with them...coming to think of it...when did YOU last see your father?

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:58 | 1359926 Cheesy Bastard
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    You are wrong, they are not all cheese eaters.  They are all bastards, though.  I am the black sheep, so to speak, and as such disinvited.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:07 | 1359965 falak pema
    falak pema's picture

    Ok, you are excused. But when did you last see your father...I ask you like a true Bilderberg Roundhead.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:16 | 1359994 Cheesy Bastard
    Cheesy Bastard's picture

     when did you last see your father

    I think perhaps you should google the word "bastard".

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:32 | 1360031 falak pema
    falak pema's picture

    that bad...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:32 | 1360038 Cheesy Bastard
    Cheesy Bastard's picture

    :)

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:27 | 1359812 scratch_and_sniff
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    If anyone is wondering what a fairly innocent agricultural company like Syngenta International is doing there...well they are only trying to privatise the fucking plant gene pool of the world. Nice people. These vermin should be kept as far away from each other as possible.

    http://www.ukabc.org/syngenta_foiled.htm

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:28 | 1359832 nmewn
    nmewn's picture

    Johnson & Rubin...now there's a pair, I bet when they walk in a room the temperature drops 20 degrees.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 21:53 | 1360338 dark pools of soros
    dark pools of soros's picture

    not if Harry Kissinger is already in said room.. its already an arctic wasteland

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 22:05 | 1360352 nmewn
    nmewn's picture

    True enough.

    Someone else has noted the "cyber" aspect in attendance as well...I thought that intriguing.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 22:31 | 1360405 JW n FL
    JW n FL's picture

    communications... the new super fast 4g even for the poor? lol instead of searching hard drives they now scrub clouds!

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 23:13 | 1360474 nmewn
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    Cloud computing...there's an Orwellian concept, what is mine, I will place in the "cloud" and pay someone for access to what I own...LOL!

    Here's a good one in case you missed it;

    "The last straw may have been U.S. District Judge Richard Bennett's recent decision, detailed in a June 5 letter from prosecutors, rejecting efforts to mask references to "NSA's targeting of a specific telecommunications technology" in six documents entered into evidence.

    As a result, the prosecution said, it was withdrawing four of the documents and would eliminate any reference to the technology in two others."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/10/thomas-drake-plea-deal-nsa-leaks-obama-administration_n_874780.html

    Hey...hey, you...you, get off of my cloud ;-)

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 09:58 | 1361003 DaveyJones
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    good stuff. good to see you. when I first heard the plea deal I thought WTF? the last two paragraphs say it all. Once again, keeping information and controlling information trump any other priority

    "The case clearly collapsed," said Jessalyn Radack of the Government Accountability Project. "It was a case built on sand, and when the government was put to the test, I think it shows that whistle-blowers are not spies and that the Espionage Act is a particularly heinous tool that should never be used to cover up government wrongdoing and punish whistle-blowers who oppose it."

    As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama called for a more open government and lauded federal workers who reported wrongdoing. But with the disclosure of hundreds of thousands of sensitive military and diplomatic documents by the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks last year, President Obama appeared determined to halt the exposure of national security secrets."

     

     

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 12:26 | 1361196 nmewn
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    Good to see you as well Davey.

    The problem is always the same. A bureaucrat can justify just about anything under the guise of "national security" or the commerce clause. 

    The Whistle Blower Law is there for a reason...to uncover waste, fraud & abuse, they can't be trusted to police themselves, no matter which party is in office. Not sure when the charges were brought (he accessed the files under W) but it doesn't matter.

    This guy reported on over a billion dollars in waste and was prosecuted for it, for being a patriot...its ridiculous.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:28 | 1359833 Subprime JD
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    Just looked up Clarium Capital Management as its CEO Peter A. Thiel will be attending. Per wikipedia, this fund lost its ass in 2008 betting against the dollar. AUM went from a peak of $7.8 billion in early 2008 to a paltry 681 million as of December 2010. Major investor redemptions after incurring terrible losses. So much for the savvy Bilderberg crew.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:16 | 1359915 Pure Evil
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    Depends on which direction the money flowed. If it flowed in the direction of fellow Bilderberger pockets, than the major investors took it in the pants while the savvy Bilderbergers made out like bandits.

    Maybe the invite is a "job well done" payback for siphoning off investors money into the pockets of well connected Bilderbergers.

    Sorta like making money for Remo Gaggi from the movie Casino.

    Have they found all of Madoff's billions?

    Maybe some Bilderbergers know where they're hidden. How do you keep a scam of that magnitude going without knowing some pretty powerful people. Why else did the SEC ignore for years the fellow that kindly pointed out the whole show was a fraud?

    While we sit back and kvetch about how they're creating a One World Government, they're running scams that would make the Russian mob blush.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 20:56 | 1360226 Yits and the Yimrum
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    benevolent counterpaties Bitchez!

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:29 | 1359837 sgt_doom
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    Just three names and a detective story: Timothy Geithner, Daniel Zelikow and Reuben Jeffery.

    Time:  last decade

    Place: Iraq, NY Fed, JPMorgan Chase

    Missing: $8.7 billion in Iraqi reconstruction funds

    Connect the dots in a most easy manner.  (Common tie: Rockefeller....Rockefeller....Rockefeller)

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:12 | 1359983 knukles
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    Not to fucking mention (in addition)...

    ....the umpteenbazillion trillion US dollars "lost", unaccounted for by the Pentagon which Rummie mentioned Sept 10, 2001

    ....the bazillion US dollars FRN's palletized sent to Bagram airbase in Iraq and just plain.... dis-a-fucking-peared

    ....howze about all the global (sources unimportant) aid moneys sent to those third world dicktators who deposit the shit in Switzerland, Grand Caymans, Jersey (no, not as in Shore) wherethefuckelse ever, who wind up dead, disabled, disappeared.... where's that money go?  

    So much money to spend, so little time to do it...

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:35 | 1359846 Rodent Freikorps
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    You'd think these guys would be more worried about nuclear proliferation.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:38 | 1359859 mynhair
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    Damn, no Sarah Palin.

    That might tell you something, if your eyes are clear.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:41 | 1359867 Reptil
    Reptil's picture

    She's a nutter. A rodeo clown, and we're the bull..

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:53 | 1359907 mynhair
    mynhair's picture

    Sure, and Oblahma is God.  Wake up.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 21:54 | 1360342 dark pools of soros
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    Obama & Hillary were invited a few years ago...but not officially so if Palin goes it will be the same deal

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_obama31.htm

     

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 08:24 | 1360912 Reptil
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    C'mon... Obama is a calculating sociopathic strategist. He knew exactly what lies to tell, even on the day of his election.

    Palin can't even finish a coherent sentence and was put there, where ever the hell she is, just because she has some strange power over Joe Sixpacks resulting in all the blood flowing from their brain into their cock. She can only think 40 seconds into the future, and remember 20 in the past (goldfish have the advantage there), and will be yesterdays annoyment, once the transfer of wealth and power is complete. Perhaps her face will grace some billboards to keep up appearances but she's not in the inner circle of cunning cunningness. She's a sort of "Baldrick" in "Blackadder" if that means anything to you. As loyal as a small time crook, and as dumb as a lump of dirt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRx90mOXS7Q

     

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:37 | 1359863 mynhair
    mynhair's picture

    Hmmmm, no Herman Cain either.  Hey, let's just vote the same crap in over and over!

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:23 | 1360016 topcallingtroll
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    +1

    Herman Cain for president, but only if ron paul pulls out.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 22:39 | 1360433 Rodent Freikorps
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    I like Cain, mostly, but he can't win. He is not a good liar.

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 01:48 | 1360719 GoinFawr
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    Neither is Sarah Palin, but it doesn't matter because she actually believes the lies.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 23:15 | 1360479 ATTILA THE WIMP
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    Fans of sock puppet Ron Paul please note that his handler Peter Thiel is on this list

    http://www.nndb.com/people/030/000124655/

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 01:49 | 1360722 GoinFawr
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    Looks like you're left with Ralph Nader, if he can hack it one more time.

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 08:14 | 1360907 Oh regional Indian
    Oh regional Indian's picture

    Strrrrrange world.

    ORI

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:38 | 1359870 DarthVaderMentor
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    Not a complete list. Some of the tail numbers at Engadin show some other corporate jets showing up for the event.

    Interesting to see a focus on social networks and cybercrime and warfare from the US. This means the Bilderbergers want improved cyber control of the masses.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 18:46 | 1359881 John_Coltrane
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    They might want to consider allowing dead but well preserved corpses to attend and perhaps make marionette type presentations.  Love to see Nixon and Kissinger on stage together maybe with Mao added for balance ranting about the one thing he got right:  "power grows out of the barrel of a gun"

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:00 | 1359932 Cheesy Bastard
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    Ted Kennedy at the puppet whorehouse.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:13 | 1359987 falak pema
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    Well he got that right during the long march days. Then he got it all wrong during cutural revolution. Until HK & RN made him an offer he could not refuse as they wanted out of Vietnam : the ping pong game in Peking, that changed the course of the world. His successor became a true Bilderberger in soul : Deng Xiao Ping. That explains the G2 today.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:16 | 1359988 Sqworl
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    WTF...No Glenn Beck???

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:41 | 1360047 Miles Kendig
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    The preference for dry erase over chalk did his invitation in.  So it's Reid Hoffman and dry erase.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:42 | 1360050 Miles Kendig
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    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:18 | 1360002 Segestan
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    A list of person's who couldn't possibly agree to disagree without marching orders. A Charade comes to mind.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:21 | 1360005 topcallingtroll
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    Some of them on the list are decent people.

    But for all food service personnel can you spit in the queen of spain and the prince of norway's food? Oh yeah and that Axa CEO also.

    If you have hepatitis B or C then prick your finger and let it drip into the catsup.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:32 | 1360033 Tuco Benedicto ...
    Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez's picture

    Let's be clear.  There are no "Americans" on this list.  There are many "globalists" on this list that happen to live in the U. S. but zero "Americans".  These are some of the "demon elite".  Where's a cruise missle when we really need one!!!!!!!

     

    Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:37 | 1360057 Gold Man-Sacks
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    Reptilians, to be exact.  ;-)

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 01:56 | 1360734 GoinFawr
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    tct! Are you advocating guerilla terrorism in the food service industry?

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 12:56 | 1361251 falak pema
    falak pema's picture

    Is that what E-Coli is?

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:33 | 1360041 Miles Kendig
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    Varney, Christine A., Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust

    Classic

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 22:17 | 1360388 nmewn
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    "Unofficial business"...apparently ;-)

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 01:11 | 1360604 Miles Kendig
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    Just because I'm an old DOJ guy ....  ;)

    http://www.justice.gov/archive/transition/ethicalconduct.htm

    All executive branch employees are subject to the Standards of Ethical Conduct.  The complete text of the Standards of Conduct and the Department's supplemental regulations can be found at 5 C.F.R. § 2635, 5 C.F.R. § 3801 and 28 C.F.R. § 45.

    The standards include 14 basic principles of ethical conduct and provide uniform rules about gifts from outside sources, gifts between employees, conflicting financial interests, impartiality in performing official duties, seeking other employment, misuse of position, and outside activities.

    DOJ’s Deputy Designated Agency Ethics Officials (who administer the Department’s ethics program):

    Antitrust Division

    Ilene G. Block
    Attorney-Advisor
    202-514-4773

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 07:26 | 1360871 nmewn
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    Its sad, it really is.

    There are times I think I could flip to the darkside and justify the move outwardly to any & all because of these types of revelations...but of course, deep down, I would know better. Its impossible to lie to oneself if sane.

    "Just because I'm an old DOJ guy ....  ;)"

    I always wondered what you did "afterwards" ;-)

    I like to think ethics & morality (the foundation of law) is making a comeback in the public consciousness...seems to me the character of human society/events down through the ages runs in cycles, we're way over due for one of the oldest to make a resurgence in my opinion. Maybe it has to burn all the way down to the foundation in order to begin rebuilding...in truth, I was hoping to avoid that...LOL.

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 10:06 | 1361011 DaveyJones
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    great post. have the same thoughts all the time. Seems, maybe I hope, were at the extreme end of the cycle

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 14:36 | 1361408 Miles Kendig
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    Whenever I start to hope we might have found the extreme end of the cycle Clear Channel plays Layne ..

    http://youtu.be/__biilMpnmw

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:05 | 1361910 nmewn
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    Thanks Dave.

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 14:03 | 1361128 Miles Kendig
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    Yes, it is.

    And so am I

    Since you asked (Strange that it is the second time in as many days this has come up, and strangely the answer hasn't changed).  Like a favorite literary character named Henry there was a time I thought simply making mud pies was the answer.  After getting unrutted by my "Aunt" and doing some traveling I discovered mud pies had lost their allure.  You just expressed rather nicely the potential that formed next and how that may have actually been my first or second musical post here.

    http://youtu.be/EHJmPcILfg8

    While we both appreciate that there isn't anything truly funny about the ether up

    http://youtu.be/bjD4PHojNBU

    As it just leads here

    http://youtu.be/ExekJ59Q0iA

    So now I am considering all that and the following while I sit here on my front porch, watching the world go by, babysitting the smoker.

    History teaches that men & nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives

    - Abba Eban

    http://youtu.be/WbrjRKB586s

    (The other choice for which tune came first from "Miles".  Layne fronted AIC after all)

    I cannot but consider that the propensity to kick the can has a ways to run yet while coming to appreciate, as you are, that it really is a natural M&A cycle.  Fact remains, like Dave says, there is a long moment when we just know running headlong into that hard unforgiving wall called objective circumstances is gonna hurt.  As always it's good to remember how truly lucky we are.

    http://youtu.be/Q1p_zB4fuuQ

    Looks like more answers will require a bit more time friend nmewn.  Meanwhile, would you prefer chicken or tofickin?  ;-)

    Cheers

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:52 | 1361895 nmewn
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    "I cannot but consider that the propensity to kick the can has a ways to run yet while coming to appreciate, as you are, that it really is a natural M&A cycle. Fact remains, like Dave says, there is a long moment when we just know running headlong into that hard unforgiving wall called objective circumstances is gonna hurt."

    Seems so, can kicking, on a global scale.

    I realize that we all come from a different center...it is good that we can all agree on cause and effect no matter who wears what color shirt. I became friends with Dave the same way as you and I. At first curiosity, then mutual respect and admiration for deeply held views based on logic & fact.

    A veer off into my online personality for a moment, everyone wonders why I have the Guy Fawkes avatar and the name "enemy within". Both uses have less to do with overt violence than the realization of where we (the common people) fit in the scheme of things...the big picture.

    This is not to say I'm a pacifist, far from it. But I could no more fight for the common who use the system for personal gain than for the elites who in turn use the common for personal gain. 99% of people are good at heart but within the system they have been corrupted by it/because of it and don't even know it...leaving nothing to physically fight for until this attitude/reality changes.

    The system has been perverted in my view, everyone will have to come to this realization before anything constructive can begin...or it will crash into an immoral, unethical, decayed heap. It is as de Toquecville said centuries ago, paraphrasing...when the people realize that all they have to do is vote, to have the government stick a gun in their neighbors ear, in order to take their neighbors possessions and give it to them with a nominal carrying charge kept by government, it fails.

    Then add in those at the top of the system who play both ends against the middle with complete equality & vigor with not the slightest trace embarrassment...all I can do is sigh.

    "As always it's good to remember how truly lucky we are."

    Oh yes...in spite of all the negativity of the above.

    We can go to the store and get anything we want...no one starves in America, even those who contribute nothing to her. We have the expectation that when we flick the wall switch the light will come on...instead of the trepidation of "will it come on?" We are allowed to move about freely, however clumsily tracked by corporate & government interests through credit dards, cell phones & traffic cams, without having to show the local gendarme your papers at every street corner.

    It is not this way in other parts of the world and I am thankful for it.

    I'm in the middle of cleaning my pool while many people suffer for fresh water...I can never forget how lucky we really are, nor do I have any guilt for it...I'm often reminded of the old Sam Kennison bit when discussion turns this way ;-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0q4o58pKwA

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:27 | 1361922 Miles Kendig
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    :)

    I have some quality associates that trade sand for food believe it or not.  Or if not food in the case of my Canadian associates, then for million dollar crack houses in Vancouver.  Even if the sand they trade is slippery and often ice covered.

    Meanwhile, my response to Sam...

    Is this important, like if they should cancel third, OOPs, first world debt ... ?

    Meanwhile, which T-Shirt should I go with tonight nmewn?

    - Spike

    http://youtu.be/nwNexKZkLrU

    I was just thinking to live in such times and to be in such positions during them is simply stupendous

    Cheers nmewn and ya, I've been saying for some time we are all on the same road to the same destination and we are all contributors one way or another.  Given that I still cannot help thinking I should go with option #1 on occasion, just for the rec. hehe  Oh yes, the Dave reference was ment to address both Dave's, the sub-thread and more for some following at a distance using the music & narrative to weave it all together

    The system has been perverted in my view, everyone will have to come to this realization before anything constructive can begin...or it will crash into an immoral, unethical, decayed heap

    Excellent encapsulation.  I am of the opinion that only about 5-10% are needed for the change start happening (Cog's avalanches piece outlines this dynamic in its essence).  Humans are essentially herd animals and it only takes a few to get the heard to change direction.  (An element I think to the nastiness in natgas and associated spaces this past week)

    Take care and I'll see ya around super absurdly dynamic fight clubber

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:35 | 1362147 nmewn
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    "Is this important, like if they should cancel third, OOPs, first world debt ... ?"

    ;-)

    All of it. Jubilee! Charity doesn't come with an interest rate where I was raised.

    Its unsustainable...for third or first. It contributes nothing but an income stream for those connected to a printing press that devalues all of our labor in the first place.

    "Meanwhile, which T-Shirt should I go with tonight nmewn?"

    LOL...well, they will all get a reaction...I'd be careful with the third if going to, ummm, certain venues. 

    "I was just thinking to live in such times and to be in such positions during them is simply stupendous"

    Ya man. Its there to grab, life is what you make of it. Teaching squire nmewn to drive is my latest joy...had him doing donuts in the field & pulling out of them (with me in the passenger seat coaching him) better me than someone else the way I figure it. He would do it anyways, at some point, now he knows how. Mrs. nmewn was not impressed ;-)

    "Given that I still cannot help thinking I should go with option #1 on occasion, just for the rec. hehe"

    I hear ya...its honest and straight forward. I used to have a bright yellow one that read Peace in big bold purple letters above an old Browning M2, in small print below it said...through firepower superiority. Drove some people crazy, others laughed like hell...for the same reasons I suppose...they didn't read the fine print till after forming their conclusion ;-)

    "more for some following at a distance using the music & narrative to weave it all together"

    I understand. Principled stances often require time to absorb in their entirety.

    Peace bruh, time to grill some T-bones.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnDCQvdp704

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 22:14 | 1362172 Miles Kendig
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    I just finished cooking up some wet & dry ribs periperi as an early evening thunderstorm came rolling through after lounging in the pool most of the afternoon.  OH HELL YA!!!!!!!!!!

    Yep, it's debt jubilee time and the venue is way right.  No concerns there as most of the chicks I associate with well appreciate the duality & clarity of #3, tho #1 draws a certain kind of keen interest.  If the Maitre d' raises a fuss I'll just go Charles Bukowski on them a pull a knife.  :D

    Peace to you & yours.

    http://youtu.be/i6SDTclzjWU

    Sun, 06/12/2011 - 11:22 | 1362978 nmewn
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    "If the Maitre d' raises a fuss I'll just go Charles Bukowski on them a pull a knife.  :D"

    Just don't pull an ordinary ear of corn out on any BK thread...holy crap!...ROTFL!

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:36 | 1360052 Gold Man-Sacks
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    NOOOOOO!  Not Amazon!  I love Amazon!

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 22:03 | 1360348 dark pools of soros
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    Amazon has great lists of the books you read...  with Google and Facebook and the NSA all sharing notes with each other...

    Sun, 06/12/2011 - 16:57 | 1360739 GoinFawr
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    The library has a pretty good list too, but it's cheaper and easier to fake your id. If one was so inclined...

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 02:18 | 1360755 CitizenPete
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    Amazon manages one of the largest cloud server networks on the planet. The books are just a store front.

    Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:25 | 1362134 Miles Kendig
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    DING

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:41 | 1360058 imapopulistnow
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    Johnson, James A., Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC

     

    Also on the Goldman Sachs Executive Board.  Also former CEO of Fannie Mae.  Also the person identified as responsible for creating much of the subprime fiasco.  Also cooked the books for personal gain.  But very entrenched in the Democratic Party.  A real piece of work.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 20:31 | 1360191 nmewn
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    +1 Reckless Endangerment.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:45 | 1360073 sabra1
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    Sabra1's free yodeling lesson!

    "little ole lady who!"

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 19:56 | 1360108 poor fella
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    In a better world 'the people' could choose a SINGLE person to keep an eye out on the going's on. We could send in Cormac McCarthy - (with 'Manchurian Candidate' programming).

     

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 20:05 | 1360128 knukles
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    Betcha Goldman's got the only ATM in the lobby.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 20:20 | 1360162 poor fella
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    What? You think they're a bank?

     

    Suppose they could figure out how all the money in the machine could come directly from taxpayers.

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 20:49 | 1360217 I Got Worms
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    Cuban may be more on the level than you give him credit for.  He tried to bankroll a new edition of Loose Change, until the SEC "investigated" him.  He backed off the film, and charges were dropped.  What's new?

    Fri, 06/10/2011 - 21:31 | 1360288 Wannabee
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    Not knocking Cuban. He'd actually bring some life into this dodgy bunch of prunes. He can remind them they all 'pass gass' despite they're purple blood.

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