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Further Proof of Ongoing Nuclear Chain Reactions at Fukushima: Metallic Taste In the Mouth?

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The Russian scientists and firefighters who fought the Chernobyl fire reported a "metallic taste" in their mouth. That taste was from radioactive iodine. (It is well known that all iodine has a metallic taste.)

For example, Colonel Grebeniouk - who led the Russian troops in charge of controlling the situation - said:

There was a metallic taste in our mouths, an acidity. They say radiation has no taste. It was only later we realized it was the taste of radioactive iodine.


There is substantial evidence of ongoing nuclear chain reactions. Another piece of evidence - as pointed out by nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen - is that there are widespread anecdotal reports of people in Japan and the West Coast of the United States reporting a metallic taste in their mouths:

Hot Particles From Japan to Seattle Virtually Undetectable when Inhaled or Swallowed from Fairewinds Associates on Vimeo.

Note 1: Iodine 131 decays to xenon 131, a non-radioactive form of xenon. Therefore, it is unlikely that a non-radioactive form of iodine would be in the air.

Note 2: There are, of course, other sources of "metallic tastes".

 

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Wed, 06/15/2011 - 10:32 | 1370877 Bastiat
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Level 4 nuclear incident ongoing in Nebraska as Missouri river has 5 more feet to rise.  At one point the plant was evacuated due to an electrical fire and associated toxic gases.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSvvmrB7qEg&feature=youtu.be

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 12:53 | 1368042 divide_by_zero
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Check out this video from Fukushima last night, huge release from 3 or 4, fast forward to about 2:20

http://www.japannewstoday.com/?p=3912

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 13:47 | 1368182 Reptil
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Yes, please check my post, I picked it up too, from a different source. It could've also been smoke! Guessing, I think some structure collapsed, and it's (highly contaminated) dust and steam. I also clearly see a FLASH in the right hand side of the video at 1:07 min into the video, the local time around 22.43. Could this be a gamma ray burst?

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 14:10 | 1368291 divide_by_zero
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Missed that post. Just starting to be daybreak, event looks to be over on the live cams. #4 still standing from JNN feed which has been a concern.

http://atmc.jp/fuku1/

#1 still banging the rails

http://atmc.jp/plant/rad/?n=1

 

 

 

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 07:50 | 1367233 Fast Twitch
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That metallic taste in your mouth is from the gun barrel of the National Guard...

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 05:58 | 1367158 straty01
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Population control?

 

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 03:53 | 1367092 bakken
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The thing is,  kids are more susceptible to cancers from accumulated doses of radiation. Thyroid cancer is usually the most frequent of radiation caused illnesses.  Damage doesn't occur overnight, radiation effects are cumulative.   My take is, if the Japanese government is shutting down sources of information maybe we should all be getting a little anxious.  The biggest real danger is if an incident occurs at the fuel reprocessing plant further North.  POOF!  a 60km diameter kill zone.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 03:48 | 1367091 IAmPhoenix
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so what is the verdict on haarps role in all this

it is one of the few things in which i have yet feel closure on

 

yes or no

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 03:53 | 1367090 Reptil
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UH-OH Huge steam or smoke !!!!!

check this guys, wtf is this: http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/06/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-live-camera.html

 

 

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 06:08 | 1367167 Reptil
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yes, something did happen...

Anonymous said...

You may want to check out these correlated measurements. It clearly shows a rise in values that correspond to the time of the video.

http://guregoro.sakura.ne.jp/radioactivity/

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 03:44 | 1367088 geekgrrl
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I mentioned the metallic taste in my mouth last week, #1353773 but it has been on and off for months. We've had a ton of rain here, and some days are worse than others. 

All the happy-talk is a big lie. They have no idea what "safe levels" are when it comes to internal emitters. Already, the EPA has basically gone back to routine monitoring, claiming the levels have decreased from initial levels, but providing very little public information. Their radiation monitoring website: http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-sampling-data.html#precipitation, has a 1 month sampling period in the midst of the worst nuclear meltdown the world has ever seen. For Portland Oregon, they sampled March 25, and then the next sample is April 20. That's it. It went from 86.8pCi/L to "non-detectable" in only 30 full days. Think we might be able to get a third data point there, EPA? You know, so we could, "connect the dots?" I'm thinking exponential decay with additional inputs due to the ongoing nuclear meltdowns would be a reasonable expectation, but I could completely see their desire to "make the problem go away" by making all stastistical analysis impossible. The fact that the EPA has released so little should be a clue as to how much has already been released.

Additionally, the fact that several European governments are now banning nuclear outright should tell us all we need to know about what is actually happening in those reactors and what these kinds of accidents mean to the people who live near them, or downstream. And we are all downstream.

 

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 06:08 | 1367157 malikai
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The fact that some European governments are rattling the no-nuclear ploy is a testament to their a) lack of understanding of the energy situation in the world, and b) their spineless attempts to placate the fearful idiots and buy votes. It means tee-tee else.

I spent May in Beijing testing soil samples, rainwater, seafood, and produce for anything I could find that may be a problem for my wife and daughter (they are in Beijing right now).

Using a GM-45, I found precisely nothing higher than background in any of the foods I tested. The only thing I found that was hot was the soil, relatively speaking, clocking in at an average of 58CPM vs ambient of 47CPM. And even that I had to write off as normal since soil samples unexposed to rainwater obtained before the Fuk incident displayed the same activity.

None of this is to say that there isn't anything to be concerned with. I've made it entirely clear that my wife and daughter are to eat no seafood unless they test it and verify background levels. But realistically, it's highly unlikely they will encounter anything hot for some time. And being in a major metropolitan city, they are faced with much larger risk from VOCs, PAHs, and UHCs than any possible threat from radioactive substances.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 06:19 | 1367171 Reptil
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Oh dear... the whole concept of "hot particles" emitting alpha radiation totally flew over your head, didn't it?

Please inform yourself correctly, before spouting nonsense and calling europeans who decide their own fate (and choose not to endanger others by building more fission plants) "spineless"? It's insulting to our intelligence.

Then you're also blissfully unaware that China's government is embracing alternatives like nuclear fusion (investment in the ITER project), and have halted the plans for more fission reactors? It's your ideas that display a lack of understanding of the energy situation in the world.

Junked, for insulting.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 06:31 | 1367175 malikai
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Junked, for disagreeing.

Fixed that for ya. I would also encourage you to go back and read my post completely, perhaps twice before displaying your own lack of reading comprehension.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 13:34 | 1368136 Reptil
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fearful idiots

Right... and that's not an insult?

Point is, there is sanity in rejecting a failed technology. Clearly you as well as anyone can recognise it has failed, and the industry promoting it has failed us even more. I do not take kindly of being lied to as far as these important issues are concerned. Also we're being bombarded here with slogans that fission nuclear is the only answer to the energy problem, while this is factually untrue. I mean with that they (french nuclear) are trying to scare us that we won't have any energy. So who are the scared ones?

And about agreeing or disagreeing, you seem to carry the same ideas under your hat, which is fine with me. But once anyone starts bullshitting other people, about the the ideas people that say no have on very logical grounds, then you'll find me as opposition (in a discussion). I've had some discussions with the neon colored kool aid nuke cowboy squad on this subject, and I'm holding back, honestly. Cold logic is better to discect foolish religion based on a semblance of science, than (righteous) anger.

Basically, my POV is that I enjoy a world with many different ideas, different people. I like some liberal anarchic viewpoints, see life as an endless variety of freaks (and sheep). All good. I even think there should be more variety of opinion here, so we can beat each other up, as long as we can discuss on the facts. And the facts are as follows: As long as there's no Ceasium or Iodine raining on my roof (and head) I'm chill, and since there is, I'm very pissed, and will take action to change this fact.

I do not adhere to the idea of Shikata Ga Nai.

Regards!
R.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 15:06 | 1368529 malikai
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Right... and that's not an insult?

Sorry, I didn't know you identified yourself with this group. Nuclear industry shills aren't the only ones passing out kool aid. There's plenty of different colors being handed out by people/bots everywhere, including anti-nuclear shills.

I'm not in the nuke business. I'm an engineer in a different line of work. When I see a catastrophe like what happened at Fukushima, I ask why. It bothers me that other, smarter engineers than me have made unconscionable decisions. When this happens, I want to know why. Although I have studied quite a bit the nuclear sciences on my own back in the earlier 00's out of personal interest, I merely know enough to know what to be afraid of and what not to be afraid of. And, honestly, if radiation is your concern, it is time to have a look at the radon in your home, any granite in your building, and you probably ought not fly lest you be dosed at the insecurity checkpoint at the airport and you're guaranteed to get a nice little dose on the flight. Oh, and you better stay indoors too since the o'l sunlight gives a bit of a dose too.

As long as there's no Ceasium or Iodine raining on my roof (and head) I'm chill, and since there is, I'm very pissed, and will take action to change this fact.

Just out of curiosity, did you feel this way in February? I ask this because there has been cs137 falling on your roof since 1945. There has been plutonium falling on your roof since the same time with the latest release ocurring with the last RORSAT reentry in 1978. In fact, I'd bet that the entire actinide series as well as the entire medium-lived fission product series can be found on your roof, dutifully deposited there in order to protect you from the godless red menace and to protect the good soviet from the capitalist pigs.

Despite our disagreement, I am with you in one respect: As long as we allow a culture of TBTF/Bailout/Whatever responsibility removing bullshit we have to persist, nuclear power will remain a net liability to mankind. Once accountability and responsibility are a fact of life for everybody; then we can talk about how to deal with the world's energy needs responsibly. Unfortunately, we haven't the culture to do it, so we will continue to destroy this planet using whatever means we can get our hands on until such a time as we lose our ability to exist here in these numbers. This is said of using nuclear, oil, coal, gas, wind, hydro, or any other energy source we can find.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 02:14 | 1367009 Yen Cross
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  i guess I'm going to have to privatize this joke, when I return from overseas.

 

    tIME FOR A LEADER!

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 02:17 | 1367007 MobBarley
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Plutonium dust might have a strange metallic taste too.

Or maybe it's the electric field of fear running through

the subconscious of a world of Sinners coming to final

judgment simultaneously like some kind of Biblical

Apocalypse coming true. Hmmmm.

 

 

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 06:03 | 1367160 malikai
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I'll take the under on that.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 02:13 | 1367006 Augustus
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The metallic taste likely results from taking the iodine.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 08:04 | 1367250 Urban Redneck
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radioactive or non-radioactive?

knowingly or unknowingly consumed?

ki pills or public utility "reformulation"?

so many questions-

For all the fear - you would think someone would have some data from dosimeters and a geiger counter - or does no one on the west coast own the basic equipment to answer the prerequisite questions?

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 00:17 | 1366890 Jim in MN
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Italy today joined Germany and Switzerland in banning nuclear power. Pesky voters....

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:30 | 1366825 bullet357
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I heard a blond say the other day with conviction that a little radiation was good for the body.  Been getting a hell of a tan and i have notice a strange metallic taste in my mouth but only after 69ing the wife.  Strange thing is she is also noticing it afterwards to.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 01:19 | 1366963 Hook Line and S...
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Is your wife a fembot?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:28 | 1366806 Bastiat
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Where's Trav?  He must be off to Fuku to share a tandem recirculating high colonic with Coulter.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 03:54 | 1367093 geekgrrl
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Follow-up wasn't part of his job description. It was more emergency management via the offensive.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:04 | 1366761 TheMerryPrankster
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More bad news for Japan and its stricken fishing industry: Tokyo Electric Power Company says radioactive strontium up to 240 times the legal concentration limit has been detected in seawater samples near an intake at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

According to Japan Times, the utility said the substance was also found in groundwater near the plant's Nos. 1 and 2 reactors. And Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said it is the first time that the substance has been found in groundwater—and that is necessary to carefully monitor the possible effects of the strontium on fishery products near the plant. Strontium tends to accumulate in bones and is believed to cause bone cancer and leukemia.

 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:41 | 1366721 Sun Tsu
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On Kan's orders, vaporize the cores.  Slim chance.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:30 | 1366697 onlooker
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4 sites that I followed for the information are gone. One showed the spread from Japan around the World. March was the shut down, you can get March, nothing foward. Radiation in Japan cities gone.

George< if you can come up with a valid news source--- let us know.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:28 | 1366679 anarkst
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GW, I think the metallic taste is coming from the oil disperers in the Gulf.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 05:21 | 1367136 RECISION
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Maybe it is from the blood in your mouth.

...a minor side effect of radiation poisoning.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 00:00 | 1366874 delacroix
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maybe, it's the silver, from the cruise missiles, in libya

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:19 | 1366787 gall batter
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No, you take Corexit to get rid of the metallic taste. 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:15 | 1366776 FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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agreed that is a possibility as well.

there are hitting us from any way they can it appears.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:15 | 1366639 ThoughtCriminal
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"150 police officers and riot squad members to TEPCo.'s annual general meeting June, 27"

...normally about five officers...

"It's going to be a stormy meeting," said Tomoko Murakami, a nuclear researcher at the Institute of Energy Economics in Tokyo. "

http://www.houseofjapan.com/local/150-police-off-tepco-meeting

 

Radiation dose chart

http://xkcd.com/radiation/

"Chernobyl was different — a critical reactor exploded and stopped the reaction. At Fukushima, the reactor cores are still melting down. The ONLY way to stop that is to detonate a ~10 kiloton fission device inside each reactor containment vessel and hope to vaporize the cores."

http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/03/when-the-fukushima-meltdown-hits-grou...

 

 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:07 | 1366627 rsnoble
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What wine would compliment a good dull metallic taste?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:42 | 1366717 TheMerryPrankster
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Thunderbird or Night Train, vintage no older than last tuesday, served at room temperature in a shabby brown paper bag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkYx--x9wa0

Woo ah, mercy mercy me
Ah things ain't what they used to be, no no
Where did all the blue skies go?
Poison is the wind that blows from the north and south and east
Woo mercy, mercy me, mercy father
Ah things ain't what they used to be, no no
Oil wasted on the ocean and upon our seas, fish full of mercury
Ah oh mercy, mercy me
Ah things ain't what they used to be, no no
Radiation under ground and in the sky
Animals and birds who live nearby are dying
Oh mercy, mercy me
Ah things ain't what they used to be
What about this overcrowded land
How much more abuse from man can she stand?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:54 | 1366593 Overpowered By Funk
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All part of the Great Cull?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:42 | 1366559 calgal
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Reporting in from Los Angeles...definitely a strange tangy metallic taste for at least a week now. Went away for a couple of days and now back with a vengance....

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:41 | 1366711 FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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yes, and i have that taste, abeit weakly, today again here in the northeast.  a few weeks after the quake happened it was at it's worst, with another "heavy taste" bout arriving a week later.  then the almost constant rains for weeks came and since then it's been much less "tasted".  i'm sure most of the water globally is "hot" now.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:38 | 1366552 GreenSideUp
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George, have you seen this?  Very interesting, even if a little tin foil hattish.  

 

http://www.naturalnews.com/032692_Fukushima_earthquake.html

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:31 | 1366534 dondonsurvelo
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No metallic taste in the mouth on the north shore of Maui. 

 

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 00:08 | 1366882 Dolar in a vortex
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Oh shut up. North shore of Maui.

Don't make me hate you.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:29 | 1366529 Buck Johnson
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We definitely need a bucket list, jesus christ what have they done.  Japan will become uninhabitable in a year, just you wait.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:11 | 1366638 FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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i strongly feel japan and much neighboring area has been uninhabitable since the meltdown, but no one tells people living near there anything.  then we have to also consider the waste going into the pacific.

this event is clusterfuck defined.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:46 | 1366846 Vlad Tepid
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The Pacific is gonna be ugly.  But Japan is anything but uninhabitable. 

The event to look for is the US military permenantly moving their bases out of Misawa and Tokyo unbidden by the Japanese.  Until this happens, reports of Japan's demise are GREATLY exaggerated.

On a slightly unrelated note, there's a clip on YouTube (sorry I don't have the link right now) that shows a blip for each above ground test in the world since 1948.  The American southwest and any downwind should (have been?) VERY concerned - fallout from ground tests can be quite...illuminating.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 02:46 | 1367034 MyKillK
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The amount and types of fallout produced by nuclear reactor meltdowns is far far greater than the fallout produced by a nuclear weapon detonation.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 06:48 | 1367184 Vlad Tepid
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Hence slightly unrelated...

Here's the link for that BTW:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXxPRHkyAvY

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:02 | 1366452 americanspirit
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That metallic taste in your mouth is coming from the brain implant you have no idea is there. You want to follow orders, don't you?

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