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Further Proof of Ongoing Nuclear Chain Reactions at Fukushima: Metallic Taste In the Mouth?
The Russian scientists and firefighters who fought the Chernobyl fire reported a "metallic taste" in their mouth. That taste was from radioactive iodine. (It is well known that all iodine has a metallic taste.)
For example, Colonel Grebeniouk - who led the Russian troops in charge of controlling the situation - said:
There was a metallic taste in our mouths, an acidity. They say radiation has no taste. It was only later we realized it was the taste of radioactive iodine.
There is substantial evidence of ongoing nuclear chain reactions. Another piece of evidence - as pointed out by nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen - is that there are widespread anecdotal reports of people in Japan and the West Coast of the United States reporting a metallic taste in their mouths:
Hot Particles From Japan to Seattle Virtually Undetectable when Inhaled or Swallowed from Fairewinds Associates on Vimeo.
Note 2: There are, of course, other sources of "metallic tastes".
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I've heard of the metallic taste before, and not just from iodine. I think that taste comes from ionizing radiation knocking loose electrons in the mouth. Metals are also a good source of electrons. The crew of the Enola Gay tasted lead even though they never flew through the mushroom cloud. Maybe you could taste the radiation from a "hot particle" on the tongue. Don't know.
if you put a AA battery on your tongue, and touch the neg. end with a butter knife, that will pretty much duplicate the sensation, I was having, @ camp pendleton a month ago, during the day, for about a week.
Did that as a kid -yuck!
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shit, from seattle
We're all DaveyJones
http://original.antiwar.com/porter/2011/06/12/90-of-petraeuss-captured-t...
90 percent afghan prisoners are civilians. what a disgrace we are.
"High Plains Drifter, " huh.
We disgracefully supported the Taliban along with Dan Rather and CBS News.
In return the shit-heads sheltered al-qaeda while they donkey fucked virgin American sheep.
We gave them enough time to dismount our sheep and only rained hell when they refused.
Now you want to be a foster Dad to one of the poor sheep?
Back off traumatized sheep fucker - back off!
'We' supported the Taliban until they started fucking with our Heroin supply
then 'We' invaded big time motherfucker. Our troops now PROUDLY stand
guard over the fields of Opium which we will defend with Nuclear weapons
if necessary because Heroin and Cocaine are the American Way.
If you don't know this, you're not a True American.
You mean like the citizens of Chicago sheltered Al Capone in the 1930's?
yes i support the taliban myself. i hope they kick us out of their country. i don't blame them for wanting us to leave. i would be the same way if someone came into my country and did what we are doing to them. i support the taliban and the iraqi and the libyan government freedom fighters.........so there pal. go suck on that.....
No chance at all of the Anglo-American Crime Syndicate (CIA-MI6) leaving all that opium to the Taliban any time soon! Sorry.
+ support
This kind of misleading information doesn't belong on ZH. Implying people on the West Coast are tasting I 131 from Japan is BS of the worst scare and fearmongering. The real George Washington was supposedly more careful to guard the truth. Let's run the numbers:
I 131 half life = 8 hours
great circle distance of Tokyo to Seattle = 4792 miles
Assume a constant, 60 mph wind blowing directly from Japan to Seattle, WA,
4792/60 = 79.86 hours of transit and decay
79.86 / 8 = 9.98 cycles of half-life
All I 131 leaving Japan and flying on the wind to Seattle will be decayed by 1/2, ten consecutive times:
1, .5, .25, .125, .0625, .03125, .015625, .0078125, .0039062, .0019531, .0009765.|||
That rounds off to a low side of 1/1000 of the original gaseous particle's radioactivity. YMMV.
LOL!! All that effort to try and debunk this post and you don't even know the correct half-life for Iodine 131.
Dumbass.
the real problem is the leaking continues. therefore the contamination spreads. i had the metallic taste real bad for 3 days here in the northeast a few weeks after the incident. of late the taste comes and goes, but it has been weaker. so either my tongue is tired of detecting it, the levels really are lower or i have become so used to it that the taste has diminished.
any way you slice this, it comes up rotten. this accident will outlive us. watch as birth rates decline during this year and cancers increase in the years to come.
not freakin good.
If Ann Coulter sez radiation is good for you, then it's good for you. End of argument. I mean, she's right about everthing else....
It's great for the healthcare industry.
What information are you using to "assume a constant, 60 mph wind"!!!!
There is something called the JET STREAM.... depending on the pressure gradients etc... that thing can rip at WELL OVER 200 MPH!!! This will give you a nice visual, (having taken my share of flights to Tokyo).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greatcircle_Jetstream_routes.svg
You should also take a few moments of your time and understand how air emission modeling works, that is a straight forward Google search.. It has come a long ways since the days of using "main frame" dos, topo maps, and manually entering the met data (did my share of that shit early in my career)!!!!
My grandmother used to tell me to "try to keep you words soft and sweet, because you may have to eat them"... (a lesson this post shows at my advanced age I still haven't learned, but I am trying... lolol)
Your statement about GW misleading people suggests that perhaps you might be well advised to ask questions/do a little leg work before making such critical statements.
GW articles have been fairly accurate to date, his sources are cited.
You know, one of the nice things about ZH is you can always go back and edit your comments.
But then again, if you are a "shill" for the Nuclear Industry you might enjoy reading your own Industry News on this cluster fuck.
http://nuclearstreet.com/nuclear_power_industry_news/b/nuclear_power_news/default.aspx
Your gran's advice may be the best I've seen on the internet yet. Thanks for sharing it!
you can only edit your post up until someone comments on them, at which point the original post is locked. Thought you might want to know in case you were planning on posting yer naughty bits....
The worst wounds are self-inflicted. I screwed up the hours / days and I do apologize. I was wrong, to five decimal places and am now corrected. Mea culpa.
Dont worry, dude. It is US citizen way to shift the bill of wrongness onto others, so no harm in being wrong, others will digest it for you.
Steve, you're writing lyrics to blues songs now!
The worst wounds are self-inflicted
Baby I was wrong
I screwed up the hours and day
Baby I do apologize
I was wrong
so very very wrong
so pathetically sadly wrong
Baby
Ooooh Baby so wrong
I am so wrong
to five decimal places baby
But I stands corrected now
Oh baby
The worst wounds are self-inflicted
and I done smashed my own cranium to bits with a plutonium sledge hammer baby
I done fucked myself good woman
I so sorry now
I was so wrong
so so very very wrong
Ooooooh Baby oooooh
Nice recovery - I was about to unleash everything I could on you.
"Fukushima Sam"???
dude, you must be like some kind of nuke topical Death Star!
You are so right.....I don't even think any reactors melted down. There are certainly no radioactive particles on the US west coast that might cause a metallic taste....that's just crazy talk! This Arnie guy is obviously a paid Shill for BP in their attempts to keep the fake Fukushima story alive and attention away from the lake of oil on the bottom of the GoM. Anyone who believes this crap is a card-carrying member of the tinfoil hat society. Somebody open the windows and pass me some of those cheap Cali strawberries!
T.E.I.N. everyone!
Wow, pull your head out of your ass.
...so you can quit rolling around like a tire.
I don't think the Profit was being serious you know.
erm, 8 days, not 8 hours......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine-131
Well that's going to change the numbers a wee bit!
T.E.I.N. everyone
GW, thanks for the link to the chart on the radioactive density of seawater around unit 2. Is that TEPCO data, it must be... but I could not find it on their "data" web site, wonder were the writer from the Daily Kos is getting the raw data from? TEPCO has to be measuring this at other points on site, it would be interesting to see the rest of the data...
The I-131 levels are disturbing.... If what they say is true (it is under-control/stable AND NOT CRITICAL or going critical sometimes), it should be rolling off faster than those charts indicate.
I wonder why they released this data information?
OH well. It looks like we learned our lesson about nuclear power. so far it has not been an expensive lesson. We have been lucky, considering what could have happened and what could still happen.
Or did anybody learn a lesson?
The answer of course is that very few learned...
Thanks to GW continue to bring us updates from Fukushima when few seemed to care.
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our mind
Oh, have no fear for atomic energy
'Cause none o' them a can a stop a the time
Redemption Song
(Bob Marley)
excellent point, here's the accoustic studio version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFGgbT_VasI
Old pirates, yes, they rob I;
Sold I to the merchant ships,
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit.
But my hand was made strong
By the 'and of the Almighty.
We forward in this generation
Triumphantly.
Won't you help to sing
This songs of freedom
"The sun shall not smite I by day, nor the moon by night"
Because man messed up the media dressed up
Lies perpetrated as truths
And it left us confused
KOOL MOE DEE
Irie.
And yet all the governments say "Don't worry, Be Happy - No Problems, we have it all under control". Don't mind that we lied for 3 months about the melt down when it actually happened within the week of the quake. Just trust us... radiation... naw... go back to watching TV and let us brainwash you some more.
If I were a reporter in a White House press meeting I would have a question for Obama:
"With the ongoing release of radioactive hot particles from Fukushima, is there anything you have done personally, Mr. President, to protect yourself and your family?"
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sharp
+1
Damn man...tv's all I got these days. Some of us need an escape from reality. Isn't tonight Bachelorette? What's going to happen in the wake of the horrific roasting Ashley took last week?
scary.
Agreed. But it looks like my HFT box is located closer to George's server than yours!
Bucket lists, bitchez.
My parents suggested I have fillings, so I don't taste a difference from before.
Try having a stainless steel cap on your front upper tooth. Talk about tasting metal! Electric shocks from forks, spoons and anything metallic that came in contact. Still remember that sensation and taste and it's been over 40 years.
I'm in the CA Mojave Desert and did taste metallic substance in the air about a month ago, but nothing like that damned tooth. A few of my employees commented on the taste also.
However, back when atomic testing was going on back in the sixties, we were all pretty well dosed. All it's done so far is to make us slow and fat. Though our kids seem to have become, largely, imbecilic...can't keep their pants above their ass crack, can't wear a hat straightwards, have never had to walk five miles to find a phone (let alone without a water bottle at hand), etc.
That explains why your boys are effeminate as well.
The Bisphenol A leaching from the plastic containers making estrogen causing compounds in their systems.