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Gaddafi Son Says Army Will Protect Oil Infrastructure, Blames Al-Qaeda For Carpet Bombing As 10,000 Now Reported Dead

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And so we go from one lunatic to another. In an "exclusive interview" with the FT, Muammar Gadaffi's son, al-Saadi, told the newspaper, whose parent Pearson PLC is 3% owner by the Libyan Sovereign Wealth Fund, "made it clear that he believed any such new regime would still include his father. “My father would stay as the big father who advises,” he told the Financial Times, adding that direct administrative powers should be handed over to a new generation." And further confirming the soon to be deposed ruler's break with reality, were accusations that the reason why the Libyan airforce has been shooting at protestors over the past week, was to protect the country from "thousands of al-Qaeda" infiltrators who had taken over the eastern part of the country. Touching on a topic discussed yesterday, namely that the Gaddafi regime may engage in sabotage against its oil industry, al-Saadi “said that the army would be sent to guard facilities if necessary. The army is still very strong,” he said. “If we hear anything, we will send some battalions. When people see the army, they will be afraid.” In other words, expect to hear news of major disruptions in the country's oil infrastructure which will promptly be blamed on al-Qaeda by the Gaddafis. And going back to reality, we read that the death toll in Libya has surpassed 10,000 people.

From the FT:

Sounding surprisingly relaxed and not like a member of a ruling family that expects to be deposed in the near future, Mr Gaddafi revealed that his brother, Seif al-Islam, was working on a new constitution and would make an announcement soon, although he had no further details.

He also admitted that ships and aircraft had been used to bombard ammunition depots near Benghazi in the east of the country where most of the recent unrest has been concentrated.

But he emphasised that these depots were away from populated areas. “We sent planes to those hangars full of ammunition,” he said.

He sought to justify the move by claiming that al-Qaeda had taken advantage of the “chaos” to assume control of the eastern region from legitimate protesters and monarchists.

He estimated that there were “thousands” of al-Qaeda in Libya of whom “maybe hundreds” were trained.

Destroying the weaponry was the only way of stopping it falling into the wrong hands in Libya or other long-standing regional trouble-spots such as Afghanistan, he argued.

He also claimed that the British government had last year sent SAS forces to eastern Libya to “train our special forces because they were expecting to fight al-Qaeda in this part of the country”.

Some other insight: having a problem procuring speed lately? Blame it on Libya:

Like his father and brother earlier in the week, Mr Gaddafi insisted that many protesters had taken “very powerful” drugs, such as amphetamines or ecstasy. “We have tonnes of the pills they were given,” he said, though he did not know where they had come from.

He appealed for help from foreign police and doctors to “investigate this”.

But by far the funniest thing is how the dictator's son still sees his role:

Questioned about Libyan diplomats deserting their posts around the world, Gaddafi, who at one time worked as a professional footballer in Italy, said: “I don’t care about these guys. My diplomacy is to be honest and tell the truth.

“I don’t have the power to solve the problems of Libya,” he said. “We have to just stay calm and not use weapons against the government or our people to destroy the country. That is not the solution.”

Perhaps this great humanitarian can then explain why according to Al Arabia the bodybag count in Libya has now surpassed 10,000:

There are at least 10,000 dead and 50,000 wounded in Libya, according to reports by Al Arabiya on Twitter quoting a member of the International Criminal Court. The death toll was reportd by the Libyan member of the ICC, Sayed al Shanuka, who was interviewed from Paris. The official figures provided by the Libyan government yesterday indicated 300 dead, while this morning Italian foreign minister Franco Frattini stated that he believed more in the death of ''more than 1,000 innocents".

So once again: when will the actions of the Fed, whose actions were the match that lit this whole blazing inferno, be finally called a genocide?



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Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:04 | 989622 surfwon
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thats alot of people

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:07 | 989643 AZSovreign
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is 10k people confirmed?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:11 | 989675 Michael
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I hope 10,000 is not true, if so there is going to be a total all out war on dictators.

Look for Intrade to put The House of Saud at the top of the list.

All Your Base Are Belong to Us.

al-Qaeda (pronounced /æl?ka?d?/ al-KYE-d? or /æl?ke?d?/ al-KAY-d?; Arabic:‎, al-q??idah, "the base"). When Osama Bin Laden, the former CIA employee, first heard George Bush say this word, he wasn't sure what Bush was talking about. All Osama knew was that "The Base" was the place he called "Al-Qaeda" in Afghanistan. Osama was the financier for the infamous Ayman Al-Zawahiri's then already failed Islamic Jihad group. It was a Bush Neo-Con scam to make you afraid of that scary word.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 19:10 | 990762 Missing_Link
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Yeah, because it's all an evil Bush/Cheney conspiracy, and al-Qaeda is really just a bunch of hippies in Afghanistan and Paki who don't behead people at all, don't train terrorists to shoot up Indian hotels and bomb nightclubs in Bali, don't hijack airplanes, don't behead Daniel Pearl, don't fight against US/Euro soldiers in Af/Pak (they're really just trying to give our troops hugs -- why we gotta be so mean Allah time?), and most definitely do not murder Santa Claus.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 02:10 | 992012 vxpatel
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Did your nanny forget to give you your daily dose of Ridalin again?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 19:44 | 990854 Nobody special
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I fear the 10,000 number is drastically understated.  But there is some positive in this.  For years, people have been seeking to destroy Al-Qaeda, the faceless and elusive enemy.  Gaddafi was kind enough to provide the face of Al-Qaeda, and that face belongs to Gaddafi.  He claims Al-Qaeda caused this and it's clearly the work of those under his command.  Doesn't take much skill to connect those dots.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:19 | 989708 sgt_doom
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"is 10k people confirmed?"

Yeah, moron, they've got a whole army of counters on the ground there right now, just confirming it for your pathetic little butt.

There are such things as stupid questions!

factual data:


People who know nothing can be made to believe anything.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:23 | 989737 AZSovreign
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and know it all's know nothing...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:34 | 989785 George the baby...
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Settle down Sgt-Doom, you're coming off like a right prick.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:35 | 989803 JW n FL
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I junked you cause you sound like a fagg... the last thing we need is Kumbya and a peace sit it. 40 years and you mother fuckers have got nothing done except smoking pot and bitchin... our turn to drive.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:00 | 989922 ColonelCooper
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Come on JW,, tell us how you really feel about it.

Glad you're here BTW, even when I think you come on a little too strong, I know you would have my back.  Real people are hard to come by these days.  Way too hard. 

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:20 | 990019 I only kill chi...
I only kill chickens and wheat's picture


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:19 | 990020 I only kill chi...
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So are you current or ex US military, if so are you a

a full bird or a light colonel.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:40 | 990149 ColonelCooper
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Neither, but my namesake was a Light Colonel, hunter, survivalist, gun expert, and author.  If you aren't familiar, see:

He also founded one of the best civilian firearm training centers (if not the best) ever:


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:04 | 989939 hardcleareye
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JW your posts are usually pretty good, WTF are you talking about?

With regards to Stg posts I don't necessary disagree but flaming people isn't an effective form of communication (even though it might feel sooo gooood).  Show a little self control.....  (I know it's difficult with all of the tempting targets). 

In the words of a fellow blogger that took me to task the last time I flamed someone.  You need to learn to be patient with people, we are all here to learn...... and some of us are just starting.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 02:14 | 992023 vxpatel
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Yo bro, some of us smoke pot and are trying to get this shit no name calling.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:37 | 989805 JW n FL
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see below for why your bitching, midol... fucking pussy hurts... bullshit was junked.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:45 | 989855 DonnieD
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At least we know where the "tonnes of pills" came from.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:05 | 990265 mtomato2
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JW is not a troll.

Sometimes, he/she/it/they actually says something of remote and distant value.

JW is, however, a Royal Dick.  And JW is to blame for that. 

JW will deny this, for JW doesn't believe JW's shit doesn't stink.

JW:  some kind advice which you won't take...  in fact, you will flame me, because you are a flamer.  Smart, but a flamer.  Calm down.  Listen more than you speak.  Rediscover civility.  Understand that you are not the end, but merely a tiny gear in a massive machine which can, if it wants, grind you into dust without the first thought.

Zero Hedge is a Beautiful Thing.  Profanity should even be encouraged in its worn and bloodied halls.  But flaming innocent bystanders for simply asking a small question advances nothing but your bipolar tendencies.

Get a good single malt and think before you type.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:05 | 990274 ColonelCooper
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Actually, JW will sometimes be the first one to admit he/she/it's a royal prick.  That's why he's real.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:20 | 990328 mtomato2
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And that is a very fair thing.  Which is why I hope he doesn't junk me, but realizes my comments were made in the most sincerest of love.  ZH love.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:21 | 990337 mtomato2
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...And I apologize for the part about being bipolar.  That wasn't fair.  It was mean.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:26 | 990364 ColonelCooper
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Quit apologizing or he'll chew your ass for being too sensitive.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 20:34 | 990958 mtomato2
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Good point.

"JW, go fuck yourself"

I feel better now.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 20:40 | 990976 ColonelCooper
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Wed, 02/23/2011 - 21:20 | 991079 Hulk
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Simmadownaow, JW, simmadownaow!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 22:14 | 991268 JW n FL
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lol... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ for the groovy snl!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:45 | 990462 goldfish1
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AJ sez:

Gaddafi loses more Libyan cities

"...With authorities placing tight restrictions on the media, flow of news from Libya is at best patchy. But reports filtering out suggest at least 300 people have been killed in the violence.

But Franco Frattini, the Italian foreign minister, said there were "credible' reports that at least 1,000 had died in the clampdown..."

Last Modified: 23 Feb 2011 17:36 GMT

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:07 | 990280 BostonTettierOwner
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Hey fucktard before you call smb a moron you should consider the fact that The guardian is basicaly an arm of british intelligence.


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 18:16 | 990537 ZerOhead
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Absolutely correct.

Notice how The Guardian has excised Wikileaks documents about British Gas and other companies bribing of Khazak officials.


From Israel Shamirs article...

The readers of The Guardian may never get to hear it, but the “big money” of capitalism does in reality result in “large bribes for the best connected”.

Just before dinner, Idenov was overheard “barking into his cell phone” at British Gas (BG) Country Director Mark Rawlings “who is ‘still playing games with Mercator's James Giffin,’ the notorious AmCit fixer indicted for large-scale bribery on oil deals in the 1990s, whose case drags on in the Southern District Court of New York. Idenov tells him: ‘Mark, stop being an idiot! Stop tempting fate! Stop communicating with an indicted criminal!’ ”

Again, the bold and very relevant information of the Astana cable has been removed from publication so that British taxpayers might not learn that the regional director of a prominent British company insists on dealing with an indicted grafter.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:30 | 989772 cougar_w
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I monitor AlJazzera part of the day, and no mention of anything like that. More like 1000, though. Still lots.

However Gadaffi did send his thugs out to kill people last night to knock in doors and kill people (confirmed by witnesses) and most are paid mercinaries (confirmed) so a very large death toll is likely before the end.

Gadaffi is set to kill them all who live in the east of the country. He hates them. Very large death tolls are possible now. A no-fly zone must be announced within 24 hours or else the dessert will run with rivers of blood.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:59 | 989916 dick cheneys ghost
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huge "food" protests/riots in india

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:58 | 990238 Ned Zeppelin
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And for dessert, our famous "Rivers of Blood" mousse.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 18:32 | 990612 ZakuKommander
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But, but, but . . . aren't we supposed to be freaking out and placing every naval asset of the free world in the Eastern Med because of the threat to mankind posed by the massive Iranian warfleet?

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 02:46 | 992070 StychoKiller
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LOL!  Look, a hurricane in my cup'o tea!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:14 | 989690 AnAnonymous
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They might be Al Qaeda though...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:27 | 989755 Tense INDIAN
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the great Al-CIAda...they have taken the EASTERN part of the country ...and we never heard of their advance

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:33 | 989783 alien-IQ
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the greater threat to US hegemony is that lesser known terrorist group known as Al-gebra. Right now, in America, they are doing all they can to keep our kids from learning about it. So far they have been quite successful.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:53 | 989892 johnQpublic
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+ (2xy+3x)+(4xy+4x)=1

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:01 | 989923 trav7777
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1 equation cannot be solved for 2 unknowns


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 18:06 | 990527 Cui Bono
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tRAV Trav trav..... everyone knows this one....sigh...

Y... Because we love ya mutha'fucka... we love ya....


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 19:00 | 990717 Head for the Hills
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"1 equation cannot be solved for 2 unknowns"

This is true in 7th grade mathematics.  However if you had stuck

with you would know that solutions are often regions of space.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:57 | 989905 Ahmeexnal
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Al-Gore is a nastier threat not only to the US, but to the whole planet.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:56 | 989909 Antipodeus
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They probably just drove in from Egypt, where they'd been busy toppling Mubarak. ... 8<))


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:10 | 989967 AnAnonymous
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the great Al-CIAda...


So the Libyan tyrant would use a story made in the West to justify invasion of land and murders of people...

Some will moan about IP theft.

Stories are stories, this Libyan guy is hurting nobody by telling the same story to justify the same course of actions...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:04 | 989631 morph
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So once again: when will the actions of the Fed, whose actions were the match that lit this whole blazing inferno, be finally called a genocide?


Putting two and two together? You are asking a bit too much of the media there! 

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:04 | 989633 redpill
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Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:33 | 989790 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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""Benocide""....Absolutely True

...Within the month watch these Revolts continue heading East....thru Syria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, India, Indonesia, including CHINA.

...Watch out for MEXICO TOO.



Canada's four Western Provinces is the safest quadrant on the Planet...w/ a plethora of natural resources and only 12.5 million citizens...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:38 | 989816 JW n FL
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you can use all that extra land to burry the idiots who tried to destroy this Country.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:43 | 989847 Jendrzejczyk
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Are you on your way to have a quaff of tea with Gaddafi and settle this little matter?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:10 | 989982 Ahmeexnal
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Greece is on fire as we speak.

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 02:48 | 992072 StychoKiller
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NEVER throw water on a Greece fire!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 21:32 | 991110 ColonelCooper
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Did I take two minutes yet today to tell you that you are a douchebag spammer?



Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:05 | 989637 TradingJoe
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It does not matter anymore, oil is in full apeshit mode and will stay that way

until something comes from our "gov" as to the dollar's "demise"!

Speculators are out in full force and will stop at nothing until they get what they

want! I remember shorting oil at 150 I made a huge pile of cash in Jan'09, will

repeat the move this year! Anything else is/will be History & Propaganda!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:57 | 989913 Oh regional Indian
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Yup, perfectly timed with all the new disclosure on DWH. Oil will not come down again. Not materially anyways. Both due to dollar destruction and supply disruptions.

Such a thin set of veins this infra-structure of ours has.



Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:06 | 989642 savagegoose
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oh well expect the brits to negotiate a deal for oil to get the evil prick out of jail.

funny how he will be fleeing libya to UK to avoid justice, how the world turns

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:57 | 989911 Ahmeexnal
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Muammar is in BP's board of directors.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:05 | 990271 OpenEyes
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Um, no he's not.  here is BP's board.  (btw, as a disclaimer, I am NOT a fan of BP.  In fact, I hate them.  But still, don't think false rumors are good.)

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 18:15 | 990563 ZerOhead
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Fine work... fact checking is essential! :)

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:07 | 989644 midtowng
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It's hard to believe the numbers right now. It wouldn't surprise me if the number of dead is over 1,000, but 10,000 seems a little high.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:13 | 989685 ColonelCooper
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+++.  Let's say we average the government stated 300, and the 10,000 Al Ariyba Twitter fed.  I'm taking the under on 5150.

Added: @ 1:14 P.M. on 2/23/2011

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:26 | 989756 serotonindumptruck
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The expression "carpet bombing" is a rather strong one. If the Libyan air force engaged in this practice on concentrated crowds of protesters, 10K might be a conservative estimate.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:55 | 989827 JW n FL
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these people have no concept of what ordinace is capable of.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:13 | 989994 lucasjackson
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Some people have no idea how to spell ordnance.  You've heard of the MOAB?  Your are the MOAP where (P) can represent Poser, Pussy, Pansy, Petunia or more likely Princess.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:43 | 990159 ColonelCooper
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Maybe you could address his point instead of harping on spelling?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:39 | 990425 JW n FL
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by lucasjackson
on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:13


Some people have no idea how to spell ordnance.  You've heard of the MOAB?  Your are the MOAP where (P) can represent Poser, Pussy, Pansy, Petunia or more likely Princess.


Just because I mis-spell what some prissy fucking navy wussy loads on planes does not mean in the slightest that I could not clear your house, with you in it after I gave you 6 months to prepare in more than 30 fucking seconds.

so, spelling champ... when you are not on the ship jerking off with the other pretty boys in whites what do you like to do?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:55 | 989900 Millivanilli
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According to who, fuckstick?   Did you put your finger up your ass to determine how many were dead.  Libya is in complete dissarray.   

Thu, 02/24/2011 - 02:51 | 992076 StychoKiller
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The "fog" of war is becoming a sandstorm...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:59 | 989920 Ahmeexnal
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TPTB need to inflate the body count in order for the fire to rage and spread to more nations.
Just like Mubarak's "70 billion".

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:07 | 989648 haskelslocal
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systematic chaos

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:09 | 989652 Threeggg
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They say people are on their way to blow up the pipelines right now in Libya.

Live feed from Libya here !

It is up intermittently due to the situation in Libya. They have 6 live cameras.


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:08 | 989653 Cognitive Dissonance
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al-Saadi, the great truth speaker. So it be said, so it be written.

Alice in Wonderland is applauding.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:57 | 989796 cougar_w
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More like Pol Pot in Hell is applauding. These guys are gonna share a bunk, count on it.

edit: and for the Gadaffi regime luvers junking anti-regime comments: Tripoli will burn, the entire Gadaffi family will be hanged, and Libya will suffer 10 years of civil war, and it's all your fault.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:08 | 989654 alien-IQ
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Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:08 | 989657 tellsometruth
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will blaming Al-Qaeda work in usa? should i say again or not? you make the call...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:12 | 989681 impending doom
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As the old PSA goes, "I learned it from watching you, alright!?!"

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:50 | 989874 Bubbles...bubbl...
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Al-Qaeda is already training narco-terrorists in Tijuana. Didn't you hear?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:01 | 989926 Ahmeexnal
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They were flight training in Florida 10 years ago. Didn't you hear?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:08 | 989658 Millennial
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Oil, bitchez.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:09 | 989660 Terminus C
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This is what I expected in Egypt, but, since no real reform was enacted there no-one had to die.  I suspect this many deaths will occur there if people really begin to push for change.

10,000 is sad even though it was expected.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:21 | 989727 sgt_doom
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"This is what I expected in Egypt,"

Then you certainly know next to nothing about either country.

Egypt has a classed-based conscripted army; meaning the rich clowns are automatically officers, with little or no training, while the poorest go to the lowest infantry jobs, but are of one mind with their brethren.

Gadhaffi's vile special forces and personal guard, on the other hand, are made up of some of the worst killers in Africa, and can boast experience in the massacres at Darfur.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:38 | 989815 cougar_w
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Folks, this is correct. There have been confirmed reports of Gadaffi (more likely one of his sons) hiring and flying in mercs from central Africa to handle the crowds at $2k per day each. Nobody is turning away from that kind of money, thanks a lot BP. The fookers are heavily armed and have been killing indiscriminately from jeeps, just as Gadaffi said would happen.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 20:30 | 990934 ZerOhead
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$2K per day?


Cash up front?... or kinda like payment after the insurrection dies down a touch? Knowing K-Daffy I'll bet he'll just kill them all after he is done with them.

Witnesses can be a bitch at WAR CRIME TRIALS!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:10 | 989664 malikai
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10,000 is difficult to believe. I don't think you could kill 10,000 unless you were carpet bombing the protests, nuking them, or gassing them. That's almost as many people as the second bull run (11,300 dead).

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:10 | 989673 AnAnonymous
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This has to be confirmed indeed.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:12 | 989684 Mr. Poon
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10,000 is indeed a large number - if the other uprisings are any indicator, hundreds to over a thousand would be a more likely figure.  Tragic in any case; and 10,000 is not entirely impossible, as body counts have a way of going up exponentially in civil wars, particularly those with an ethnic aspet (see:  Rwanda).

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:22 | 989729 reader2010
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or give them the most lethal GMOs food.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:22 | 989734 sgt_doom
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Wowee, I am so impressed by your expertise.

BTW, can you find your vagina?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:27 | 989759 tmosley
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Last I heard, they WERE carpet bombing them.  With fighter jets.  Some of the crews refused to go on these missions, but I doubt they all did.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:33 | 989778 malikai
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Was that confirmed? All I got to say is if that's true, prepare for the UN to respond, meaning war.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:39 | 989819 hardcleareye
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The UN is not going to get involved unless we decide we have to protect the oil. 

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:55 | 989899 serotonindumptruck
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Maybe the UN can send in a massive peace-keeping force. Yeah, that's the ticket! The pretty blue helmets that those guys wear are sure to attract plenty of attention.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:38 | 990132 D-Falt
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Yeah, like they did about 2 million deaths ago in The Congo!  That would just fix everything.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:41 | 989833 cougar_w
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No carpet bombing that I've heard, and I've been watching the news. But there has been aircraft fire into the crowds from jets and helicopters. It's really bad. Very bad. The death toll will certianly be closer to 5000 before it's settle, and the protestors know it. It's fight and win, or die like a dog.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 20:14 | 990918 IQ 145
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 You can't "carpet bomb" anything with tactical figher bomber; the alternate term of art is "area bombing"; and it's done with say, for a small raid; two hundred four engine bombers raining down industrial size loads of 500lb. bombs on an area. Why the modern American citizen is incapable of any rational thinking; I do not understand, but it's certainly part of the problem. 10,000 people did not die in Libya; not even including natural deaths due to old age during the time period. This is simply irresposnsible journalism; its purpose is to get a gee whiz response from the mindless and some clicks on advert carrying pages. Wake up please.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:10 | 989971 equity_momo
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Malikai , am i missing the sarcasm?

Do you know how many died in Rwandan genocide? And alot of that was done with simple machetes.

If you honestly think you need modern warfare or Hitler techniques to kill 10,000 youre an ignorant prick.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:11 | 989667 Michael
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Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:10 | 989674 Mr. Poon
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"If we hear anything, we will send some battalions."

Yes, that's right - just stay in the bunker, everything will be fine, the divisions are coming from the Eastern Front and will be there to save the day, any minute now.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:12 | 989677 SpeakerFTD
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Holy crap!  He's spouting crazy shit on CNBC RIGHT NOW!

Oh wait, that's Mohammad El-Erian.  Nevermind.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:22 | 989728 Dr. Engali
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Mohammad El-Erian is Egyptian. Come on get it together.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:32 | 989774 Practical Irrat...
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At least statements like this have an air of plausibility: 02-23 14:16: Pimco's El Erian says QE3 is possible but does not expect it

WTF is this guy smoking: 02-23 14:06: Fed's Plosser says don't expect removal of fiscal stimulus to have big impact on the economy

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:40 | 989824 Arthor Bearing
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Sweet avatar potsmaster

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:11 | 989678 THE DORK OF CORK
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I am expecting a western airborne division to be parachuted into Libya to protect oil installations anytime now.

This is it - after perhaps expect a escalation of tension with China.


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:13 | 989688 jus_lite_reading
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We're protecting the "people" not the oil... this is about democracy!


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:23 | 989731 MachoMan
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It's to save the environment from a similar situation as the iraqi oil fields after saddam lit them on fire.  Yeah.  Save the environment!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:22 | 989736 reader2010
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are the Chinese drilling there too?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:13 | 989992 Antipodeus
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There are apparently around 25,000 Chinese oil workers in the country. Turkey is sending 3 passenger ships & has offered to lift some of them out.


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 20:16 | 990922 IQ 145
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 Possible; at least it's a rational thought.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:12 | 989679 Piranhanoia
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Private Will Stockdale states they just ain't no way that Mr. Al Kider has an aaair force.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:12 | 989682 jus_lite_reading
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They don't call him "Kamikazi Ben" for nothing!

"Dr. Deficit" aka "BEnron" is making waves across the globe with his agenda. Now, the question is, will he be tried for crimes against humanity and the death of millions?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:06 | 989949 Ahmeexnal
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Or will he be remembered as the father of "democracy" in the middle east?
How many people will name their sons "Ben Bernanke", like they named their sons "George Bush" in Irak?

I'm sure he'll also sell them the idea of a grand pan-Arab federal reserve...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:13 | 989687 fragrantdingleberry
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Part of me thinks this is all a wag the dog operation by the White House.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:40 | 989692 LawsofPhysics
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Al-Qaeda can carpet bomb?  Using Bush logic we should make a glass desert of the middle east immediately.

Good to see they use bullshit propaganda in the Middle East too.


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:41 | 989832 LawsofPhysics
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That comment got me junked, really people?  Oh did I offend you?  Well maybe you needed to be offended, oh and another thing, fuck you!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:06 | 989950 trav7777
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why would you give a shit if someone junked your post?

WTF does everyone in this place have a sore vagina?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:02 | 989995 ColonelCooper
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It gets worse every day around here.  The easily offended are going to get a seriously painful wakeup call one of these days.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:42 | 990445 JW n FL
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and they think I am rude... becuase I use harsh words on a computer.... WOWIE!!! wake up call in deed Sir, wake up call in deed.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 22:13 | 991263 Pee Wee
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Either Target ran out of big girl panties or the huffagton post leeches are looking for a free lunch.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:14 | 989693 redpill
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this POS deserves whatever he has coming

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:15 | 989694 D-Falt
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Yes, but he does he dress as poorly as Dad did?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:19 | 989714 andybev01
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It is a rather chic sarong.


And since when does Al-Qaeda have a fucking air force?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:43 | 989852 cougar_w
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Al-Saadi is as delusional as his father. These people are crazy as bat shit.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:07 | 989957 Ahmeexnal
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The airforce Al-Qaeda had slammed into the WTC and Pentagon 10 years ago.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:39 | 990139 D-Falt
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Since they showed up at Logan AP with fake IDs.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:16 | 989695 Tense INDIAN
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its very hard for me to believe that these are really peoples revolution ...look at the spots where the protests are going ...MIDDLE EAST....why not in Peru ...South Africa...or even in India where FOOD inflation is highest in world.......

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:17 | 989704 D-Falt
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Not a bad point.  I read somewhere that food was something like 45% of the Indian CPI market basket.  Any truth to that, or is it just Internet crazy?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:35 | 989797 Tense INDIAN
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thats fucking true......Prices are rocketing......only thing that hasnt gone up is rice...and if zerohedge is to be believed ...even that will double in six months......

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:32 | 989777 Nepenthe
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Umm, they are protesting in India...

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:34 | 989793 hardcleareye
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Different cultures handle crisis, conflict and corruption in different ways. Flash points are lower in the Islamic culture?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 20:16 | 990921 taxpayer102
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Since the U.S. created its Africa Command in 2007 it's been
looking to move its headquarters from Europe to a country in Africa. It needs a crisis in Africa to justify establishing
and expanding U.S. military presence on the African continent. On Jan 20, 2011 AFRICOM commander Army General Kip Ward said "In the coming year, we will continue to support African leadership in addressing shared security challenges, take advantage of opportunities, deepen our strategic partnerships regionally as well as bilaterally and with the African Union ... These goals reflect our emphasis on preventing conflict and enhancing regional stability to protect American lives and interests in Africa and in our homeland."

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:20 | 989697 JW n FL
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So.... The U.S. of Fucking A. could not impose an no fly zone over Lybia's un-armed people from (circa) 1950's MIG's... easily?




We American's who LOVE FREEDOM so much could not air drop some M-16's so the Un-Armed Freedom Fighters could at least shoot back against the trained troops sent to gun them down...




This is what we are all about, this is why the world laughs at us and dare I SAY this is why the world hates us... we have such broad and sweeping morals that are only used when we can get a twoffer... pick up some good pr as well as some cheap oil...


We have no real moral compass, becuase we the people vote into office, people with no real moral compass... becuase we only have two FUCKING Loser parties to choose from... and dont spout off about your gay love of the tea party.. they have yet to become lobby whores, but they will yield to the dollar(s), they always do!

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:19 | 989718 redpill
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But to your point, we could establish a no fly zone and give them M16s, but then we would be accused of further intervening in the Middle East and be cited as yet another reason to hate us.  So we're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't.


Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:33 | 989738 JW n FL
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see thats the same pussy shit that makes the whole US of A a pussy fucking idiot led country...


drivel!!! fucking drivel!!!!


fuck that!!!! protect freedom fighters, US of A job #1... if we are going to spend trillions off shore propping up bullshit personalities.. the least we can do when the people do rise up is give them a helping hand.


the fucking least we can do.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:37 | 989811 redpill
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The world doesn't need us to always try to ride in on a white horse and save their ass.  WW2 was the exception not the rule.

I'd rather we spend our time getting our Central Bankers from causing global inflation, and stop fucking around with other peoples' economies and mind our own goddamn business, as we have plenty of our own problems.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:41 | 989837 JW n FL
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I said...


since we are spending TRILLIONS any way... we might as well...  wake up.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:44 | 989850 JW n FL
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and I might add... f-22 raptors v. 1950's MIG's... is no contest..


as well air dropping guns to un-armed people is not sending in the Marines... but to be clear I am in favor of that... and I know more than a few that would volunteer to go.. no need to order them too.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:45 | 989908 redpill
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They said the same thing before sending all our boys into Nam/Afghanistan/Iraq/etc. Talk about needing to wake up. How many times do we need to see this shit repeated? Picking winners and losers with our military hasn't been working out real well. We get a bunch of dead soldiers who were some of the most exceptional people on the planet, along with tens of thousands of dead civilians resulting from collateral damage, and our only thanks is a boat-full of hate, and a bunch of debt we can't afford.  Fuck that, and fuck this gung-ho "send in the Marines" bullshit.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 17:06 | 990277 bbaez
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lets cancel all of this aid since its all going to hell in a handbasket anyway


We need to pay our own bills

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:10 | 989984 trav7777
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Did it ever occur to you that this is absolutely NONE of OUR fucking business?

You care so much, you go fight.  The world hates us because of idiots like you who want to bring war to their living rooms over everything.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:15 | 990003 equity_momo
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Moral compass? what the fuck has that go to do with running an empire? You need to lower your expectations a bit and work out what the path of least resistance is to sustaining a global empire in the 21st century. I have news for you : you , me and any other douchebag with a vote doesnt change the course of American history.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:15 | 990007 resipsaloquacious
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Wow.  You really are making quite an effort to be the blalthering idiot commenter on this post.  Well kudos to you, sir.  You are winner!


Yes, the world hates the USA because we are too hesitant to get our military involved in other nations affairs, particularly countries that are predominantly muslim. 

And as far as dropping weapons into Libya, that did not turn out so well for us in Afghanistan, did it? 

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:16 | 989698 Dr. Porkchop
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al qaeda infiltrators... where has he been getting his material from, old Rummy and Cheney press conference footage?

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:24 | 989746 JW n FL
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that has to be the biggest inside joke ever told on world wide TV.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:16 | 989700 Josh Randall
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This ordeal is becoming a bad SNL skit whenever this Royal family speaks to the media -- however real people are dead and more hurt and in mourning. Sickening what happens when compassion, hubris and intelligence is lacking.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 20:26 | 990938 IQ 145
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 you need to look up "hubris"; it doesn't fit in your post, except with whatever definition you decided it has; but language is a group activity; you're not supposed to just make up meanings for words.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:16 | 989702 cxl9
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Wow. A government using Al-Qaeda as an all-purpose excuse to do whatever it wants. Good thing nothing like that ever happens here in the good ole U.S. of A.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:19 | 989720 JW n FL
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that has to be the biggest inside joke ever told on world wide TV.

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:00 | 989924 Hammertime
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I like succinct posts that have it on the money.  Thanks cx19.  



Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:19 | 989712 Jim in MN
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Hats off to the two air force guys that bailed out and let their plane crash rather than bomb civilians.  Rumor is the ones that flew to Malta were ordered to bomb oil installations.  Thumbs up there too, fellas! 

Also the ex-Justice Minister is asserting that the Colonel ordered Lockerbie "personally."

Everyone get out your Idi Amin, Killing Fields and Apocalypse Now blankies, it's getting kooky ooky spooky around here.....

Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:19 | 989713 Misean
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Dude musta been gettin' high on all that stash he rustled up before that diatribe. I wonder how I can get in on some of that shit...

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