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Gaddafi Son Says Army Will Protect Oil Infrastructure, Blames Al-Qaeda For Carpet Bombing As 10,000 Now Reported Dead
And so we go from one lunatic to another. In an "exclusive interview" with the FT, Muammar Gadaffi's son, al-Saadi, told the newspaper, whose parent Pearson PLC is 3% owner by the Libyan Sovereign Wealth Fund, "made it clear that he believed any such new regime would still include his father. “My father would stay as the big father who advises,” he told the Financial Times, adding that direct administrative powers should be handed over to a new generation." And further confirming the soon to be deposed ruler's break with reality, were accusations that the reason why the Libyan airforce has been shooting at protestors over the past week, was to protect the country from "thousands of al-Qaeda" infiltrators who had taken over the eastern part of the country. Touching on a topic discussed yesterday, namely that the Gaddafi regime may engage in sabotage against its oil industry, al-Saadi “said that the army would be sent to guard facilities if necessary. The army is still very strong,” he said. “If we hear anything, we will send some battalions. When people see the army, they will be afraid.” In other words, expect to hear news of major disruptions in the country's oil infrastructure which will promptly be blamed on al-Qaeda by the Gaddafis. And going back to reality, we read that the death toll in Libya has surpassed 10,000 people.
From the FT:
Sounding surprisingly relaxed and not like a member of a ruling family that expects to be deposed in the near future, Mr Gaddafi revealed that his brother, Seif al-Islam, was working on a new constitution and would make an announcement soon, although he had no further details.
He also admitted that ships and aircraft had been used to bombard ammunition depots near Benghazi in the east of the country where most of the recent unrest has been concentrated.
But he emphasised that these depots were away from populated areas. “We sent planes to those hangars full of ammunition,” he said.
He sought to justify the move by claiming that al-Qaeda had taken advantage of the “chaos” to assume control of the eastern region from legitimate protesters and monarchists.
He estimated that there were “thousands” of al-Qaeda in Libya of whom “maybe hundreds” were trained.
Destroying the weaponry was the only way of stopping it falling into the wrong hands in Libya or other long-standing regional trouble-spots such as Afghanistan, he argued.
He also claimed that the British government had last year sent SAS forces to eastern Libya to “train our special forces because they were expecting to fight al-Qaeda in this part of the country”.
Some other insight: having a problem procuring speed lately? Blame it on Libya:
Like his father and brother earlier in the week, Mr Gaddafi insisted that many protesters had taken “very powerful” drugs, such as amphetamines or ecstasy. “We have tonnes of the pills they were given,” he said, though he did not know where they had come from.
He appealed for help from foreign police and doctors to “investigate this”.
But by far the funniest thing is how the dictator's son still sees his role:
Questioned about Libyan diplomats deserting their posts around the world, Gaddafi, who at one time worked as a professional footballer in Italy, said: “I don’t care about these guys. My diplomacy is to be honest and tell the truth.
“I don’t have the power to solve the problems of Libya,” he said. “We have to just stay calm and not use weapons against the government or our people to destroy the country. That is not the solution.”
Perhaps this great humanitarian can then explain why according to Al Arabia the bodybag count in Libya has now surpassed 10,000:
There are at least 10,000 dead and 50,000 wounded in Libya, according to reports by Al Arabiya on Twitter quoting a member of the International Criminal Court. The death toll was reportd by the Libyan member of the ICC, Sayed al Shanuka, who was interviewed from Paris. The official figures provided by the Libyan government yesterday indicated 300 dead, while this morning Italian foreign minister Franco Frattini stated that he believed more in the death of ''more than 1,000 innocents".
So once again: when will the actions of the Fed, whose actions were the match that lit this whole blazing inferno, be finally called a genocide?
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tungsten bitchez
I NEED TUNGSTEN TO LIVE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCIXnhjSnM8
for those who havent seen this yet about gaddafi's 10 craziest moments/eccentricities:
http://www.hedgefundlive.com/blog/10-craziest-gaddafi-momentseccentricities
talk about wack job!
So finally, a genuine "false flag" action that blows up the world. Leave it to the crazy guys to pull that one off.
Why do I suddenly have the sinking feeling of an EMP going off sometime soon?
you dont have a lead safe? with back up boards? your stupid...
No but I do have all important electronic devices stored in a homeade Faraday Cage, including 2 laptops, wireless devices, emergency radios, two way radios, encrypted USB sticks etc... Lead just cost too much.....
Vacuum Tubes!!! The only way to compute after EMP!
EMPs fried you brain?
That tinfoil hat ain't no Faraday cage pal. ;)
Stops the FED's from reading my brain though.
No. You forget the abacus and chisembop
Excellent.
Don't forget the heavy grounds for the house and cars.
Drop a chain from the car frame to the ground.
Sorry, didn't see your reply re: Faraday.
lol!
bro building a board out of tubes... tha would be #1 art work... #2 should be in a museum.. #3 would make you a Genius.. not the acme kind either.
It's for audio I know, but still:
In 2002, computer motherboard maker AOpen brought back the vacuum tube for modern computer use by releasing the AX4GE Tube-G motherboard.
True that on the museum tho!
It is also relatively simple to fabricate your own custom-built Faraday cages.
http://www.unitedstatesaction.com/emp_and_faraday_cages.htm
NICE!!! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
for all of those solar inverters and charge boxes.. I like the idea of being able to have electricity beyond if things get out of hand... and if that much less money makes it to king dumb fucks accounts to be accidently donated to some crazy fucks who then kill my fellow country men / women then so be it.. either way, physical power production is a great thing. just like phjysical PM's / rice!
Be sure to test it.
If you put your cell phone inside and it still rings when you call, you fail.
so its a stand alone room / blacked out of all digital in or out? or the stuff that is in can not operate?
stupid questions to be sure, but helping each other is what we do here... when we are not fighting to make our arguements that much stronger... tempered by the heat of battle.
"---stupid questions to be sure" you got that right. Never mind making your "arguement" stronger; spend your time educating yourself.
10,000 dead? Really, let's follow the grapevine: Unknown source ---> to ICC official in Paris ---> Al Arabiya ---> Twitter ---> Zero Hedge.
5 levels of hearsay. In other words, complete speculation. Yet, you report it in bold "before the jump."
Sleazy.
lets see....
mercenaries flown in by the plane full... http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=libya+mercenaries&aq=1v&aqi=g-v3g-o1&aql=t&oq=libya+merce&pbx=1&fp=a6d2d2461dad44a8 who where then armed and sent out to shoot any and all they could find...
Then we have... http://www.google.com/#hl=en&&sa=X&ei=UWBlTarVN8fXgQfV7tXcBw&sqi=2&ved=0CBUQBSgA&q=libyan+jet+fighters+fire+on+crowds&spell=1&fp=a6d2d2461dad44a8 but those Libyan Jet fighters where shooting rubber bullets and Nerf Missles right?
So, 10k isnt reall a stretch now is it stupid...
go watch CNN or Faux News and pray for those peoples safties why the grown ups try to talk over the top of you fucking mouthy lil kids.
In the plainest terms possible... GROW THE FUCK UP!
Yes. 10,000 people is stretch, particulalry, when there are (at least) 5 levels of hearsay that leads to the unknown source of the news.
Oh, you are a grown up? No. You are an idiot and a hypocritical one at that. For example, you tell me to watch MSM (which I have to assume implies that I am a mindless sheep) because I question the accuracy of a news source? Now think about that for a minute you brainless fuck.
You are so far up ZH's ass that you cannot determine for yourself when they post "reported news" that is nothing more than unsubstantiated rumor, and that is a kind description. That is to say (now read this part slow you dumb bastard) -- you are in fact the "sheeple" that you assert I am. You believe anything, as long as it comes from a source you "like".
But hey, maybe you'll get that free ZH t-shirt! Go get'em allstar.
so I offer you... verifiable reports from outside sources...
I offer you you real facts...
and you call me names... thats the whole sum of what you are... you are the very least a dis-appointment.
You most certainly did not offer any sources about 10,000 dead. How you can you say that? You offered news of the violence and then inserted your own belief that 10,000 people could have died.
And by the way, the name calling were the facts.
Here's a tip: "disappointment". One word, no hyphen.
speel fucking check v. fucking pictures of dead body's... and I am the asshoe, are you sure? in your lil make believe world maybe, but thats about as fucking far as the idea is real.
look at all the picutres I provided and start counting and if Tyler is plus or minus 10% to even 30% give it a couple days and then his number will be spot on.. and maybe when the UN is allowed to go in and count... we will really know who was right v. wrong... and if you were right I will say so, but I fucking doubt it.
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=libyan+mig-23&aq=2sx&aqi=g1g-sx2g-o1&aql=t&oq=&pbx=1&fp=a6d2d2461dad44a8
MIG 23's for your enjoyment... from the CIA and Google.
Your outside source is GOOGLE/CIA?
You are a sheep.
the CIA and Google passed out camera phones and video recorders so I can watch the dead bodies pile up?
Bro. loosen the alminum hat straps, they are cutting of needed blood flow.
Yes. That's the sad fact of the brave new world of the Internet; the accepted qualifier for everything is "I like it; it agrees with my innate emotional setting"; This can be expressed as "Female Logic"; If I like it, if it makes me feel okay, it's true. A real disaster.
The war on terror (also know as bonus enrichment) is based on a mere level of speculation.
Eyes open in 3..2..
Lighten up. As though ZH is worse than any other outlet. Why are you here? Do you learn shit WAAay earlier here? Go light up a smoke and take a good long pull. If you want to be the first to know, you had better learn to sort the wheat from the chaff.
yes sir colonel.
This place is a lot of fun and admission is free, but you gotta avoid getting caught up in the hysteria.
Gold 36000!
No worse than any other outlet. Not good enough. Why here? Same function as the Onion, plus constant reminder that almost none of my fellow citizens knows anything at all about the world they live in, and b.) they can't think; at all.
Look. I was commenting on the fact that despite the fact that this place cranks out story after story after story, in damn near real time, with what I assume is a rather small staff compared to any MSM outlet. The OP is really gonna be that whiny about a leading, or teaser headline? He sourced his info, take it or leave it and chill the Hell out.
+ 3.1412 Colnel.
Caveat Emptor, now more than ever.
ORI
Of course; it's typical irresponsible journalism. You'd have to be completely mental to put any credance in it; but look at this reponse page. Sad. Very Sad.
I'll say it again Tyler, this statement is absurd:
Here you are posting quotes illustrating how absurd and insane the entire gaddafi family is, then you summarize the article by accusing the Fed of Genocide? Get a grip man!
What has morality got to do with war - its only function is to mobilise the masses - the entire fucking world is absurd , its always been like this.
You're right. It has always been like this.
We are ruled by an authoritarian elite, whose guiding principles might be found within the pages of Carl von Clausewitz (during war) or Nicolò Machiavelli (during peace). Morality and Realpolitik are diametrically opposed concepts.
http://www.clausewitz.com/readings/Principles/
http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince00.htm
No I disagree , you can use morality as a weapon in a realpolitik world - think Thomas Aquinas and the just war theory.
Every idea can become a weapon.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML1OZCHixR0
Perhaps, however the risk of hypocrisy is great if morality is used as a weapon by an immoral nation state. Pontius Pilate may have had the best policy wrt staying out of the affairs of others.
Whats hypocrisy ? - morality is either a tool or a weapon. its a slightly Maoist view of the world but some of our leaders are Maoist in nature - we are but cattle to them.
Willing slaves of whatever faith they invent.
total Retard
Damn, bro. I thought you were cool.
I won't talk to you anymore, okay?
Ok you can talk to me. I'm cool. I promise. Here...tell me to do something stupid and watch me do it.
Total Recall
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlI8pwlNmjk
Tyler's not wrong, but there is plenty of blame to go around. I personally blame Winston Churchill for a lot of the disgraceful oppression laid on ordinary people in the Middle East since the breakup of the Ottoman Empire.
Behind every tinpot dictator there's a bunch of rich bastards selling oil and guns.
It's time to 'get straight' with the aspiring middle class in these countries, and they might not forgive easily....sometimes I wonder whether India might be ripe to bust a geopolitical move, being both democratic and Third World 'cool' with folks. It'd be pretty hilarious to see a belt of thriving, oil-rich democratic societies under Indian patronage....just a silly thought...need to work out those Saudi and Iranian details yet....
USA, EU, China or India?
+10
Durden blames the Fed on Khaddafi?
And here comes the stock market.
Cramer is trying to pump it up as much as Ms B cups.
I want to see Gaddafi dead ASAP.
I wanna see his head chopped off and put on a stick and marched around tripoli afterwards.
Give it a few days.
What a fascinating statement. Why? Gaddafi isn't one whit less in touch with reality than Mr. Obama. b.) he's entertaining c.) it doesn't fix anything. The problem in all these raghead-catbox countries is overpopulation; which in itself causes societal instability and periodic psychotic outbreaks. The situation is un-fixable. There's no answer. What the 60% of the young male population that is permanently unemployed going to do when they get their next dictator/president/prime minister, whatever; and nothing is any better ?
Pot calling the kettle black moment.
Cramer just said that Gaddafi was a little too crazy for him
sad
1,500 young men discovered alive in a basement after being there for 7 days.
http://www.libyafeb17.com/?p=2060
They'll send their battalions. I see.
I wonder if those would be the same battalions that got their asses handed to them by Chadians with gun-mounted Toyota pickups a few years back?
That's why he has now hired them as his bodyguards. The black body guards roaming the streets shooting people speak French. they must be chadians.
10K out of 6M is like 1 in 600. No way he can stay in power if the 10k number is correct. Muslim justice served up in 3, 2, 1...
This is the trigger - they can blame inflation on this - perfect timing.
Just hope none of you zero hedge boys are of draftable age - as a world tour awaits.
we all should tour home, before any of that bullshit is aloud to happen. a lil in country action to wamr them up. if we would kill our own government we damn sure would kill thiers... which makes negotiations that much easier.
I admire your principles JW but this is a more plausible scenario.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUc62jD-G0o
Thank You for the laugh kind Sir... that movie, if allowed to be is very funny.
The Marines now are not allowed to make men of the boys... they must all hold hands and go to therapy sessions when the Sgt. Major hurts thier faggot feelings (no offense to the gays meant). and to touch on that (pun intended) if someone, anyone wants to kill for my Country they are damn sure worthy of wearing the uniform... and if you cant defend your ass crack in the shower from a naked man, you should not be on my battlefield, fucking period. so, let them serve... fuck give them pink guns even, or pink cammo for all I care as long as they are shooting the bad guys I Love them and so does God Almighty!
Ha Ha ha - thats the funniest paragraph I have read in a long time - you really crack me up - just one thing
If you see me falling in the combat zone - don't I repeat don't pick me up
different people have different uses in this world... lets hope / Pray to God that people can avoid voilence if at all possible... but considering those in power are not keen on releasing / putting down those powers (ala' Obama, Mr. Hope and Change who has extended the Oval Offices Powers).
I dont see a friendly outcome.. this video maybe to, too much music wise so kill the volume and get a feeling for what a peaceful sit in turns into in a G-20 Police State.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SNqwjdhY_Y&feature=
You're a dangerous man. utterly cynical and frequently interesting.
2:38PM: Cramer calls for Government investigation into oil prices!
Every frikin time this "Free Market Capitalist" sees something he doesn't like he calls for government intervention. Same as during 2008: investigate short selling, investigate anyone not doing what I want now!!
He represents the mouthpiece of the right wing of Wall Street: "Government Keep Out!!! Except when my money is at stake or that of my cronies! Then we need to intervene, come down hard, jail and kill and raid the Treasury, transfer all taxpayer money to Wall Street that's what I call Free Market Capitalism!!!"
He's for you the consumer to trust him and his cronies with your money. And actually you should be required to do so. Every available dollar you have should be transferred electronically and untouchable until you're 92. He wants to steal your money and make it legal to do so and a requirement of being a citizen of the US
He's also lying about oil: A Great One! He said we have enough US domestic crude that we could consider EXPORTING IT to South America!!!!! We currently import 60% of our oil and US oil produciton peaked in 1970!!
When Cramer starts foaming at the mouth you know what that means now: the market is in deep, deep, deep, trouble. Just like last time. Predictable.
Cramer should be shoot dead for treason on the White House lawn once things get straightened out.. and recorded for the kids to watch in school, mandatory viewing.
oooh! I suspect the FBI may want to talk to you. Maybe review all the porn on your hard drive.
"O" NO! not the FBI... they are busy watching porn, the really good stuff the SEC workers find and then email over to the FBI...
and if they want to see me, I am easy to find... happy to dicuss my 1st (not 2nd, 3rd and / or 10th) amendment rights!
cnbc says 1k killed:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/41730896
therefore; CNBC is ten times more accurate than Zero Hedge; QED.
"Age and cunning will overcome youth and enthusiasm" was repealed in Egypt last week, but Muammar and Saif haven't gotten the news.
"Whom the Gods destroy, they first make mad" is still in force, and it looks like the Libyan coconut hasn't fallen far from the frond.
And I finally found the correct spelling: GoDaffy.
lol...
you are a native of FL or Cali.. or islands?
CA, can't afford a safe island, so I'm trying to prep with "No man is an island, but he makes a damn fine peninsula..."
you have mountains... better than a flat island, all day every day. Be thankful for the high ground and caves for shelter... not to mention no fucking hurrincanes!
Catalina Island. Very nice place.
10,000 dead and they're just now getting serious with full frontal war against their own. Nobody kills more muslims than other muslims. Nobody.
Catholics.
Oh for godssakes man, the last crusade was like 700 years ago.
time for a new one then isnt it?
The Catholics haven't turned out to kill Muslims since the year 1250. Though yeah, that was a lot of killing at the time.
as I mentioned above... time for less fucking pancakes and more fucking dead bodies... all in the name of God of course, so we can feel good about it.
No it isn't.But after the revolutions burn and the west falls...perhaps you may expect a visit from The Holy Inquisition.(j/k)
Does being such a bigot hurt physically?Just asking....
Life (like me) can entertain you.. if you let it.
I like it JW!
Why dredge up old history? They have long since evolved. It's WAAaay more satisfying to sodomize than to kill.
Teachers molestations of schoolchildren is 20X higher than Catholics (2500/yr)
But they're considered fellow travelers and part of the protected class.
Muslim on muslim -- recent history or ancient history it doesn't matter. It's just a fact.
Saddam Hussein killed 30,000/year of his own people.
Everybody, while thinking of these nutcakes, take a fun break and give this a 2 minute 30 second listen to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye_fZocBAMI
and "remember only forest fires prevent bears"
Ga-Daffy Duck & Sons have truly gone Looney Tunes!
This one is dedicated to Ga-Daffy himself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXZMZ-XvvzI
A Daffy reference like that, and those links. You're not even TRYING...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at9ypxkcSSY
hee hee....I'm just trying to rally the crowd. Thanks for sharing a clip!
Here's a quick clip that pretty much sums up yesterday's entire QaDaffi Duck speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWamxEDcqiQ
Mad as biscuits no doubt.
But who is doing the humiliation?
Western and other Governments made a friend of this lunatic and others.
Are they now just army surplus?
what he thinks that we are stupid Al Qaeda haha
Here's the latest from the US State Dept. - the update on their website regarding Libya. As per the Bureau of Consular Affairs website all US Citizens are advised to:
RUN!
: http://www.jpost.com/SpecialSection/Article.aspx?id=209545
Those people over there need guns...lots of guns... Here in the USA we have guns...and we won't give them up...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iJmiYqCFbXfbbPlhVkQVOOGSBDtg
Hillary was cozy with Libya's leadership.
Time will tell.
Civil war now - so it will be ugly.
Let's hope the military can get rid of Gadhafi and stabilize things quick before more innocent civilians are slaughtered.
"...thousands of al-Qaeda" infiltrators..."
oh, the cia....al-qaeda makes a lovely boogey man.....
Just for some perspective : if this 10K figure is half true, then this is more than the number of people killed in 911. Are you as shocked by this as you were by that?
Pretty gruesome pictures...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-02-21/libya-protests...
Blitzer on CNN just now, "Can we take Gadhafi out with a pinpoint strike?"
WTF
Darn. Al Qaeda is too bad. they always cause problems.. high oil prices.
If US economy is double dip, (and BTFDD) it will be entirely caused by AL QAEDA!! And we certainly need more QEs to fight AL QAEDA both militarily and financially!!
Ben---More QEs--PLEASE!!