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Gamma Radiation In Fukushima-Downwind Ibaraki Disclosed, 30 Times Above Normal
For all who have been looking for realtime radiation data from Japan, you are in luck. Or maybe not, as the data unfortunately indicates nothing good. The System for Prediction of Environment Emergency Dose Information (SPEEDI) releases gamma radiation data online. The site is jittery and apparently not suited for major traffic which is why we represent several screen captures of the data. While it is not surprising that according to the website both Miyagi and Fukushima prefectures are entirely "Under Survey" as it makes sense that the government does not want to generate panic, SPEEDI has disclosed some tell-tale data about cities in Ibaraki prefecture, which is just a hundred or so miles north of Tokyo, and is just south of the ill-fated Fukushima prefecture. And the data is stunning: based on a N, NE and NNE wind direction (where it originates), meaning all coming from Fukushima, with a normal reading in the 80 nGy/h range, the city of Kounosu Naka is at 3,024, Kadobe Naka is at 2,416, Isobe Hitachioota is at 1,213 and many others are in the mid to upper triple digit range! Again, this is based on wind coming out of Fukushima and ultimately headed toward the capital. Indicatively, normal terrestrial plus cosmic gamma radiation is about 80 nGy/h.
Below we present screencaptures as of moments ago, as apparently the Japanese government seems to believe that abnormal gamma radiation levels are perfectly notmal:
A map of all prefectures, showing maximum gamma radation readings. Note Ibaraki at 3,024 nGy/h, and Kanagawa right below it (and downwind) at 224 nGy/h compared to low double digts for all other prefecture.
Not surprisingly, Fukushima is completely N/A, as every single reading is Under Survey, also known as censored.
But the stunner is Ibaraki. We will let this one speak for itself:
As a reference, based on background radiation measurements in the lower atmosphere at
different altitudes above sea level up to 1100 m and over the land were
made at a temperate latitude (40°) in the Thessaloniki region, North
Greece, before and after the Chernobyl accident (26 April 1986), using a
portable γ-ray scintillation detector and a Cutie-pie survey
meter with an ionization chamber, the average value of the total
background radiation at ground level was 87 nGy h-1 (10.0 μR h-1, 25 cps), i.e. 60% from terrestrial radiation, 55 nGy h-1 (6.3 μR h-1, 15 cps) and 40% from cosmic radiation, 32 nGy h-1 (3.7 μR h-1,
10 cps), before the Chernobyl accident, while, after it, the total
background radiation was doubled, due to the long-lived radioactive
fallout suspended in the atmosphere and or deposited onto the ground.
h/t Jon
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ZeroWing II - The Sequel
whoops double post
Hello Gentlemen.
All your Basis Points are belong to U.S.
as I have been saying, let the evidence come out...there are enough dosimeters to know what the reality of radiation leakage is without wild conjecture.
That said, this is what Cs137 will do. If the core gets ejected, one will see these meters go apeshit higher. 30x normal while sounding big is not going to pose a risk to anyone over the decay periods of these radionuclides. Just watch them over time and note patterns of increase or decrease, compare against the half-lives of the expected radionuclides and you will be able to deduce what has been leaked.
So...you're saying buy E minis. Do I have that right?
good god, no, man..the SP500 is a fuckin Fed-propped ponzi.
At what point did this place become an echo chamber, btw?
I don't know....but maybe at the same moment in time that you became a hand wringing twat...as opposed to the insulting fuckstick I had gotten used to.
handwringing? WTF?
You're right man I am obviously panicking by telling people to stop being hysterical. Good call.
Your ignorance is exceeded only by your stupidity
Now that is more like it, trav!
In the meantime, if you are finding it difficult to understand how the average ZH dude does not understand just how many rads it takes to kill a moose...well, WTF? We are not rocket scientists.
However, what we are is very well informed about how governments and big business operate. Most of us would not be hanging around a Tokyo cafe waiting for nuclear snow to start falling before we would get a bit snarky, at least.
As for facts on the ground regarding these reactors...it seems quite clear that it is only a matter of time before one of them goes poof...which is what most of us are talking the fuck about...while you do an online class on rads.
But rock on dude...and I got a finger back at you :)
Cdiddy, øH dude AND dudette†
Japanese news reporting has been very good; they have given out numbers several times; they anounced that the core temperature was 360 Centigrade, and declined to 350 in about an hour; these are very moderate temps. With these kinds of temps. it won't be necessary to vent more steam, (which is the entire source of the radioactivity that can be observed); it's really late for things to be melting; there's a certain amount of heat available after shutdown and the heat source decays constantly, well, not constantly but continuously; After this much time since shutdown there shouldn't be enough heat available to melt the materials the core is made out of. Also; the cores are conpletely contained inside a steel can, which is inside a re-inforced concrete can; They should just continue to cool off without a lot more drama; the drama was caused by hydrogen gas and air ignited inside the building; this is a combustion event; not really an explosion; the over pressure got rid of the concrete; but it has no effect on the reactor core or its containers. If you dropped a locomotive on the outer concrete housing of the reactor itself, it would just bounce off.
Is that you M. Bartiromo? At ZH, were not usually interested in mind-wash zombie stuff. Just sayin'.
Is this what you are referrring to?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decay_heat
Notice the log-scale chart to the right. Instaneous power at (complete) core shutdown is approximately 7% power. The RCIC turbine was designed to supply enough flow from the Condensate Storage Tank to make up for the losses as the safety-relief valves on the steam headers opened. This was the design in case the reactor tripped and took an isolation (Main Steam and Feedwater, groups 1, 2, and 3? <- been 14 years, at a PWR now). This was with NO operator action. Some EOPS used to have the operators inhibit ADS (Automatic Depressurization System), or essentially override the safeties.
The 7% power decays relatively quickly. After about a day and a half you really have more heat input from the reactor vessel and recirc piping than from the core itself - assuming it is fully shut down.
Here is another site that explains decay heat generation as a function of time:
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/mragheb/www/NPRE%20457%20CSE%20462%20Safety%20...
Oh, BTW, as a former operator at a BWR and a current operator at a PWR - I am very, very concerned about what I have read and what has been reported.
Well you know Trav, you got this whole "calm yourself" thing going on today. We're used to your "go fuck yourself" attitude.
You're making people nervous! LOL.
Love ya babe
Yea Trav. If you dare to act in ways that the ZHeeple do not like you will pay dearly. DO you understand!?
Conform, behave, comply! NOW!
And just how in the hell could the core "get ejected?"
Well, the captain calls down to engineering...and Jordi pushes a button ejecting the core. Sheesh...drink much fluoride?
good one. lmao
Thanks, I needed that!
if the damned thing blew up due to a steam explosion in primary containment as a result of uncontrolled meltdown and concomitant fire.
May I suggest everyone take a deep breath and read this:
http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/13/fukushima-simple-explanation/
(Link copied from Jesse's Cafe Americain site)
Actually, that "simple explanation" got torn to shreds. Pretty painfully too.
anyone who writes things like "simple explanation" and wants to "give peace of mind" should be read at your own peril.
2-day old trash from a pro-nuke site. yeah, that should give everyone peace of mind.
have already read it...the outcome I suggested is exceedingly unlikely but possible. Those here who are hyperventilating about the radiation levels- I am advising them what they should expect in the event of this worst-case outcome that they all seem to be panicking over.
look, I don't know shit about shit, but the nuclear reactors keep blowing up so if I was in Japan I'd get the fuck out. Just saying.
Good article. (You even got junked for it - I don't know why (she swallowed the fly.....)
very, very bullish for equity! rebuilding and preventive measures will stimulate consumer spending!
I hope I'm reading scarcasm. Broken window fallacy?
What about the people's lives affected by this tragedy?
You are talking nano-grays, right? That means you are talking about a release of roughly 3100 nGy, which converts to 0.31 mR, which equates to 0.31 mRem.
A trained nuclear worker in the U.S. is allowed 5000 mRem per year. A member of the public is allowed 100 mRem, per year.
While this is not good, it is totally consistent with the venting of the steam from units 1, 2, and 3. This is not anywhere near doses that cause health problems.
maybe we should panic because these aren't Roentgen Men
Sir, although your numbers may be true, they do not sell newspapers, or even susbscription based on-line news papers. Modern reporting is about getting the scoope on a before-after picture of the Kardashians exposed to massive amounts of 3100 nGy. 99.99% dont know what nGy is, but it sounds bad!!
Dude, thanks. I just finished checking wtf a Gy is (I'm a rem-kinda-piglet) and doing the math.
People at this site are supposed to know a bit o' math. Evidently the author likes to use really large numbers!!!! to count really small things.
And it is gammas, like fast half lives.
U THE FLAGG!
- Ned
"Evidently the author likes to use really large numbers!!!! to count really small things."
He must have been the guy that invented Avogdro's Number then! Off with his head!
"Radiation, yes indeed! You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-boxed do-gooders telling everybody it’s bad for you. Pernicious nonsense! Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have 'em too. When they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was ready to burst. The next day nothing... swept away. But I showed them. I had a lobotomy in the end."
3100 nGy is .003 milliGy; not .31mR.
cesium is bad. we now know this. and of course "containment can be breached by an earthquake" and "sea water can enter the breach from a tsunami." or "we can claim this was the plan all along" and "it's no different from eating a banana." either way "it's all the same." sometimes "certain bad things stay with you longer than others do." everything is relative--even nuclear meltdowns/blow-ups--although for some reason "the truth machine known as money" is being disagreeable. perhaps "it's the 100,000 man army" Japan has deployed "as a result of this banana eater."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEnjFRJes4M
they aren't going to give up. Its only a matter of time in Bahrain. Look at these Shiites.
this bridge looks like a piece of cake. if they took the bridge, and held it, they would almost control this little island country.
Saudi-Bahrain Causeway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFjGfU9gtRg&feature=fvst
Saudi army coming into Bahrain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uIiOTBLzc0
Hell these counts are all going ape shit - click on city name and you get individual graph. At 4:00 the high reading spikes. They dropped and spiked again. Readings are much worse than they were an hour ago.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.houshasen-pref-ibaraki.jp%2Fpresent%2Fresult01.html
People are going to begin dropping like flies. The incidence of radiation sickness will be epic.
Sigh...you simply have no clue, do you?
Perhaps not.
Let me just say that I do not trust any information being released by the Japanese government. If they're acknowledging the elevated readings to the media, then the situation is likely much worse.
wtf is this the X Files?!?
Since you're so convinced that it is harmless, you should volunteer to go in and see firsthand if it is actually melting down. And throw some water on it while you are in there.
Why does your icon flip people off and how did you know everything?
c'mon lad, you remember the nbc stuff, right? - Ned
Of course I do. :-)
In all fairness however, the scope of this disaster is only beginning to be realized. TPTB have a vested interest towards misinformation. This is an unprecedented event, and I only hope the propaganda being served up doesn't end up causing a mass casualty incident that is orders of magnitude worse.
roger that. But I'm watching the extreme panic behaviors on misunderstanding of "micro" doses. And this stuff is fast-decaying. Trying to be a bit rational here. - S/F - Ned
Internet is good as long as it tells the truth. As nobody has a monopoly on truth, we get as close to it as possible by cross referencing different leads coming spontaneously from different sources. Better than programmed "news" from one official outlet. Long live the spider's web of information. But the problem here is that the superficial can dilute the essential. We still have to use our personal sieves to tell gold nuggets from dirty slugs of dirt. Let's project ahead and learn from the past, once it becomes clear. That in itself would be a blessing. It's all man can ask from his erstwhile past. That now has the mask, the acrid taste, of infamy has revealed itself to us. For reasons of hubris or inconsequential ambition which ignore the painful lessons of the past. Japan should have learnt. It's a bleeding shame that it didn't. Then, in such situations, the past has a way of reminding us of the haunting truth : it repeats itself, like the spinning flywheel of life itself.
Well written. Philosophic with out being overly pretentious. B-
Teachers note: Always room for improvement and BTFD
Not good...
I just spotted this one (in Japanese only - maybe it can be translated with browser-based translation) - a number of cities in Ibaraki prefecture are listed (this is a zoom-in view, doesn't show all of Japan):
http://www.houshasen-pref-ibaraki.jp/present/result01.html
I clicked on couple of cities with high readings and it seems TSHTF about 4am local time or close to 2 hours ago. Another interesting detail is that there was a big spike, then a big drop almost to normal, then a spike (current values) again.
Spike at 4 then down (to above normal still) then spike again. That's it.
Simpler to use the basic English-language SPEEDI site.
www.bousai.ne.jp/eng/ -- here's the SPEEDI site.
Realtime radiation data collected via the
System for Prediction of Environmental Emergency Dose Information (SPEEDI)
Radiation values measured by the observatory are not zero even during normal time due to because of cosmic rays andnatural radiation from natural radioactive materials in the air on the earth.When it rains, narural radioactive materials such as radon in the air fall down onto the ground.Therefore, measured values temporarily go up.Even when it thunders, yellow send flies, or nondestructive tests with the use of isotopes are conducted nearby,measured values sometimes go up.Because indicated space radiation dose rates are rounded off to positive numbers,they may differ from data shown on prefectual websites.Data are sometimes not transmitted because of maintenance or for other reasons.
---------------
Monitors at Fukushima were destroyed by the tsunami. There is no "censorship" going on.
wait, am i understanding this....3000 nGy/hr...
.0003 REM/Hr?
you get more radiation eating a spinich salad on a cross country flight....
i understood that we were talking 2 or 3 uGy here (the u is micro bc I can't find the mu symbol lol), which is a tiny dose.
It's consistent with venting radioactive steam, not core ejection. Don't have any brazil nuts with that salad or YOUZ COULDZ DIEZ
Trav-when you figure out how to do greek letters in posts, please let me know. Pretty please?
- Ned
[Ed. 'cuz if we can't figure out nano vs. micro vs. milli then we're hosed.]
http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codealt.html
Just push the Alt key and type 0181, and tadaaaa:
µ
µ
I cut and pasted yours.
Comparison from abstract for paper about Bazilian background radiation located at http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V7X-3Y2FTBK-6...
AbstractSixty-seven thermoluminescent dosemeters (TLDs) were distributed to the inhabitants of a Brazilian municipality located in the semi-arid inland (Sertão) of the state of Rio Grande do Norte. All the TLDs were exposed for 180 d in bedrooms or in living areas of the selected buildings and eventually returned to the authors' laboratory in Italy. Radiological measurements gave a range of 32 – 330 nGy h−1, an arithmetic mean of 107 ± 47 nGy h−1, and a geometric mean of 99 nGy h−1. This last value corresponds to an annual indoor effective dose equivalent of 425 μSv. Concentrations of primordial radionuclides in some samples of building material, soil, and rock collected in the aforementioned territory were analytically determined by a gamma spectrometer. The relatively high content of 226Ra (98.5 ± 12 Bq kg−1), 232Th (252.5 ± 47 Bq kg−1), and 40K (1533 ± 169 Bq kg−1), in bedrock is probably responsible for the elevated γ-radiation environment of that municipality.
So I guess that 3000 nGy/h is about ten times the maximum measured background radiation in parts of Brazil with relatively high background gamma radiation due to local geology.
There was too much logic and too many numbers in that post and it didn't cater sufficiently to my misanthropism
PANIC NOWWWWWW BITCHEZ
As a charter member of International Society of Misanthropes Who Hate Peace (ISMWHP), welcome to the club. There is entertainment on Thursdays and the veal is wonderful.
exactly...10x natural background. Higher than normal? yes...but not anything to go haywire about.
I'm not saying the situation is not bad there or have the potential to get worse...but as long as these are the worst levels we are seeing from this....we are okay.
Exactly, 3 micro Gray.
Exactly, 3 micro Gray.
would that be six? And what is a Gray? - Ned
Green shoots.
This must be that recovery we're hearing so much about.
Brother Truth,
LOL!
Is that enough radiation to fully cook a turkey?
Why is it Thanksgiving?
BP and the US destroy the sea,
Japan destroys the land and air,
and all that remains is ......... Charlie Sheen
and lady gaga
Hey, don't make fun, 'she was born that way'
All your dosimeters are belong to us, make your time!
Yes, Japan is WINNING! (Must be pissing off Charlie Sheen big time.)
Honestly, I'd just wait a bit. I don't distrust the govt yet - in truth I think there's a decent chance they didn't penetrate the inner casing so we haven't seen a core breach yet.
Ok so we have what looks to be an intentional "data dark" situation coming out of Fukushima and way higher than normal radiation down-wind from ground zero.Seems to me there is an obvious correlation. I wonder though, if this apparent "cover-up" of data is to prevent an even more detrimental situation of panic-stricken hordes running from something they don't see or understand.
Radiation is very different from contamination. Radiation will subside quickly (as many isotopes created by fission of transuranic elements have short half-lives) as the decay of such elements, and subsequent radiation energy, falls off parabolically. While contamination is the particulate form of various unstable isotopes that continually decay and produce radation energy for a long time.
In conclusion, radation: short term danger; contamination: long term disaster
huh? contamination is what produces the radiation readings, bud
Yes, atmospheric contamination. It certainly isn't considered "fixed" contamination.
I may have to research my radiological terminology, but I think the definition of contamination wrt radionuclides is the unwanted or undesired presence of said radionuclides.
Yep, contamination is when stuff is where it ain't s'posd to b
Quick rule of thumb:
Contamination is the shit.....
Radiation is the stink....
This is a nice way of thinking of it. I'd only add that heavy metals including uranium have biological effects in addition to the damage due to radiation. Similar detoxification processes are involved to remove lead, mercury, arsenic, uranium, etc. So the thing is for ingestion to be avoided at all costs because then you get the toxic effects as well as a radiation source inside your body. The big problem is that this stuff is going to enter the food chain, and we all know which species is at the top.
I predict an increase in Japanese whaling far from Japanese waters.
Here's a clear, high res arial photo of the two blown reactor buildings. Hard to believe the feul reseviors were not blown sky high in these explosions.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitalglobe-imagery/5525887859/sizes/o/
Alex: great shots, thanks.
Well, not really, the hardening is a lot better, the closer to the reactor vessel. b worth ur while to understand the design and what is actually goin' on.
- Ned
{checkin' ur spellin' wud hep}
nice photo..
you can see
the three eye sushi fish
swimming in the cooling ponds....
deleted for double talk
Not sure what to make of this. While 1/2 life of 137Cs at 30 years does suck, I would think that is more of a theoretic long term carcinogenic risk at the most extreme level cited if maintained at this level indefinitely.
3024 nGy/HR works out to 3.0 x 10-4 cGy/HR which is "small". Hormesis anyone?
Compare this to nuclear fallout where lowest level death is single exposure of 500 cGy whole body resulting in hematopoetic syndrome/ death in a couple of weeks vs. x> 1200 cGy resulting in GI death in a couple of days vs. x> 5000 cGy resulting in CNS death 1-2 days.
I think someone already mentioned that Iosat doesn't fix this.
Anyone real familiar with the conversion of radiation units nGy to nSv, if I read wiki right one gy is equal to one Sv?(For electron and photon radiation (e.g. gamma), 1 Gy = 1 Sv.)
Ok "back of the napkin calculation"......
Exposure of 6000 nGy/hr x24hr/day x365 days/year is 52,560,000 nGy/year =
0.053 Gy/year, and 1 Gy=1 Sv
According to the NRAC the Annual Limit on Intake is 0.05 Sv/year........
http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/basic-ref/glossary/annual-limit-on-intake-ali.html
or per Wiki Annual Limit on Intake is the
committed effective dose equivalent of 0.05 Sv (5 rems) for a "reference human body.
I wonder how accurate the readings are, is anyone "independent" verifying them? According to this even the high reading are not that big a deal..... (I am not convinced that these readings are accurate.. I have recollections of the DWH oil spill numbers still in my head....)
When I was a boy my chemistry set had, among other excellent experiments, a little tube of greenish radium dust and a small sandpaper-like square of U-235. ( This was obviously prior to the nanny state.)
At night I used to get under the covers and sprinkle the radium onto the uranium and watch the little sparks - mini nuke reactions. Fascinating. I don't know how much radium I inhaled but it was probably significant. Over the years I've wondered when I was going to develop cancer - seemed pretty inevitable. However, at 70, so far so good. Just saying that radiation is quirky.
if its concentrated in the family jewels its a bonus! They're still sparkling!
Posting of the day.
LOL.
Second that.
Exactly.
Didn't Mr. Curie die by getting hit by a bus?
Just goes to show you...you can be around all this radiation your whole life...and what kills you is a city bus. Life is quirky.
I spent six year making patrols on a nuclear sub. Wore film badges the whole time. Slept within 200 ft of the reactor. The only time my badges read any exposure was when I hung out in the upper level missile compartment. That was plutonium warhead exposure, not U235 exposure from the reactor. Point is, if there is really increased gamma radiation, the uranium has left the building.
You would have been better served wearing them in the clip joints in Naples or Taiwan.
No that's not correct. many artificial, or induced, radio-isotopes emit gamma. I'm too lazy to look up a list of things you could find in the airborne aersols; and the gas molecule inventory, but this is basicall correct. These readings, or counts, do not indicate anything about the Uranium in the core: which is basically still where it started out.
Your right, there are lots of sources of gamma radiation, and many that occur naturally. It's just likely, when levels increase dramatically, and a local reactor just blew up, that might be the source. And yes, it doesn't have to be U235. It could be any number of unstable elements created out of the fissioning material.
"I spent six year making patrols on a nuclear sub."
When we you on a boomer? Film badges? Are you sure it wasn't one of these?:
http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/radiac/navybulbtld.htm
I was on the USS Von Steuben SSBN 632 from 1971 -1975. We wore the film badge on the belt of our poopy suit. It was a small stainless steel rectangular case about one inch by two inches with two film strips inside, one for gamma and one for neutron, if I remember right.
Oh how I hate this sort of "news". The news is that there isn't news yet. Those radiation levels are totally insignificant and not dangerous. Please stop spreading unnecessary fear.
with a normal reading in the 80 nGy/h range, the city of Kounosu Naka is at 3,024, Kadobe Naka is at 2,416, Isobe Hitachioota is at 1,213 and many others are in the mid to upper triple digit range
You guys are confused. These are my liver enzyme readings.
You still have liver enzymes? What's your blood type? Where do you live?
I have a screen cap of when it was at 4900 nGy/h just a few hours ago
OK everyone, no one should be afraid until the MSM says it's time.
Glen Beck says its all good..coast is clear
http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn-beck-japan-nuclear-meltdown-video-2011-3
Glen Beck would tell his audience that he loves the smell of beta particulates in the morning if he thought it would improve his ratings.
Sorry Falak - the sparkle went out of my jewels quite a while ago. Now its all I can do not to leak.
You never know, there is always the eleventh labour of Hercules in the eleventh hour...like the return of 'flame and the arrow'...like a Hail Mary pass to touchdown...never say never!
xxx
We do know that the original cooling systems for those 3 cores has failed (72 hours ago).
At this time, we can infer that core temperature control and ongoing core integrity is dependent upon pumping sea water using fire truck pump(s) and some make shift jury rigged hose and coupling attachment into a highly pressurized, and highly damaged facility (core 3), while it is leaking radiation.
Sure gives me a lot of confidence. It is hard to ignore the cascading failures at this time ...
We do not know if the core is cooling or not. We do not know if the spent rods are cooling or not.
What are the odds that all 3 cores are being adequately controlled using an improvised cooling system ?
Threat of third explosion at Japan nuclear plant revealed
http://rt.com/news/officials-explosion-fukoshima-claims/
...
In the end it will be just the cockroaches and Keith Richards.
There's a difference?
Only kidding. Keef is da man. I'd lend him my tele to fend off mutant radioactive cockroaches any day of the week.
Yawn. Who cares. Nuclear is irrelevant to the middle class anyways. Why should they care? They are welded to an oil infrastructure. All those machinists and mechanics are going to become nuclear engineers? Of course not. Nuclear results in widespread gated communities. Be gone with you, Nuclear!
can't access the site!
maybe it's getting overloaded...
"Renault espionage likely fabricated". No shit. Have you ever owned a renault. I left the keys in always and no ever stole the damn thing. Worse than a Yugo.
Point being "PARTIAL DEFECT FOUND IN NO. 2 REACTOR'S CONTAINER"
Point being "PARTIAL DEFECT FOUND IN NO. 2 REACTOR'S CONTAINER"
Motivation Meter:
0 (live) |-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-| 100 (die)
|=> (prudence)
|===> (discomfort)
|=======> (pain)
|==========> (injury)
At what reading do you get motivated?
You don't need nuclear power to be widely embraced for cancer rates to go bananas. Its going to happen regardless with 8 billion plus dropping feces every day. Therefore, the energy rulez gang are full of shit. All the energy alternatives suck...therefore biotech will be the next locus of power.
Nah.. I think we're cool here -
http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/13/fukushima-simple-explanation/
I think the engineers did their job, but the officials did an awful job of releasing info regarding the situtation, especially when the lid blew off the top of the plant - twice.
Radiation in the atmosphere seems stable
Explosions at nuclear reactor = no big deal
Radiation is contained
No risk of anything bad happening
-Lehman Quant
Here is a good explanation of what is going on with reactor 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-QuA3YurxU
I watched a few seconds of it...
uh, theres like 23, or 26 of these things, built sometime in the uh 70's or something like that...
lol
I also liked..."That's the stuff that blew off just the superflous crap"
Scientific bro.
Background radiation varies widely:
http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/natural.htm
There are places in Brazil and India where people live their entire lives with background radiation levels of 50uGy/hr (= 50,000 nGy/hr). No increase in the frequency of cancer has been documented in these populations. So the levels in Japan do not seem at all dangerous.
Do enough people live long enough in India and Brazil to develop the types of cancers that would be caused by exposure to 50 - 50 000 nGy/hr?
http://www.ieer.org/comments/Daiichi-Fukushima-reactors_IEERstatement.pdf
"Rather high levels of radiation, over 1,200 microsieverts per hour7 – which is more than 10,000 times natural background radiation at sea-level – have been reported outside the plant. At this level the annual allowable dose of the radiation to the public would be exceeded in less than an hour. Such levels indicate a partial meltdown in Unit 1 and possibly in Unit 3. However, while it seems to be widely assumed that the radioactivity has been emanating only from the reactor vessel (s), it is unclear whether some of it is also being released from the Unit 1 spent fuel pool, which may have been damaged by the explosion."
Was the earthquake "upgraded" from 8.9 to 9.0 to protect insurance companies?
Is that the threshold for invoking an "act of God" clause and denial of claim?
The "upgrade" was done by various national geology labs, including USGS. I sincerely doubt they are affiliated with any insurance companies. This is not a bond rating agency scam, fer chrissake. BTW, an upgrade from 8.9 to 9.0 is massive; seismic magnitudes are done on a log scale. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale
I pray for the people of Japan.
I heart gamma!
It made you what you are today.
http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2
Reuters reports that the 2nd reactor just exploded. Not good.
Oh dear. That was a real good one. I sure wish these people would stop blowing up buildings. Well, at least they only have one left.
BREAKING NEWS: Blast heard at 6:10 a.m. at Fukushima's No.2 reactor: gov't
If this is no big deal, gotta wonder why Japan is requesting help from the U.S. and the IAEA.
Also, those pooh-poohing comparisons to Chernobyl should ponder TEPCO's history of filing phony inspection reports.
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Reactor No.2 exploded at 6:10AM their time. That's two hours ago. And they are saying it now.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-explosion-at.html
its fuckin' common idiot...why dont you go panic fool
-trav7777
That one had a high flash temperature and excellent overpressure; they must have got the hydrogen mixture, "just right"; I don't know why they keep doing this.
Explosion heard at reactor #2.
This type of shit is extremely common. Don't panic you fuckin pussy. Humans get exposed to this shit eating spinach.
-trav7777
Awesome, I missed that one. LoL.
THIS SIEVERTS ARE SO BULLISH FOR MUTATED STOCKS YOU CAN NOT IMAGINE.
THE STOCK VALUES WILL MUTATE AND DOUBLE EACH AND EVERY DAY.
So sorry but my immediate association is bacterial logarithmic growth and extinction:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacterial_growth
Great analogy to the human population on this little speck of a planet.
Once energy-rich resources are exhausted, exponential die-off occurs.
Your "association" is evidence of your total ignorance. You should be ashamed of yourself. People are dying in Japan, you troll. Go infest MSN Money.
Well.
They should have thought of that in 1986.
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