As Gasoline Prices Pass $3.81, Stranded Motorists Looking For Cheap Refueling Options Surge

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Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:16 | 1175779 williambanzai7
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Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:27 | 1175800 Pool Shark
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"As Gasoline Prices Pass $3.81, Stranded Motorists Looking For Cheap Refueling Options Surge"


Like a lot of our jobs, they're just going to Mexico:


Sat, 04/16/2011 - 14:58 | 1176254 Teamtc321
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Foreign Oil: China has a plan. We don't.

"And for the sake of our economy, our security, and the future of our planet, I will set a clear goal as president: In 10 years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East."

— President Barack Obama

America depends on a number of foreign countries for oil that don’t have our best interests at heart. Countries like Venezuela, Nigeria, Iraq, and Angola are either from unstable regions or actively adversarial to American interests. Oil prices have come down from a year ago, but even though our addiction to foreign oil is cheaper, it is still a very dangerous addiction from a national security standpoint. We cannot allow foreign nations to control our security, environmental, and economic future.

Our elected guberment officials would rather argue over gas emmisions from FARTING cows and if the EPA has authority to tax the farting cows. Let's don't get our diesel transportation fleet burning natural gas with Clean Energy "ticker CLNE" or "WPRT." No, No, let's just keep kicking the can down the road and argue over farting cows and if we can keep raising our defaulting debt.

The only way I see this country waking up if they ever do even then, is fucking gas going to 50 bucks or a restart.

Sarc> I got it, let's just raise the debt ceiling to the moon or mar's and go buy the hell out of put's on all clean energy sources trying to make a difference for the world.

Shit better yet, the gal that was so excited she would never have to pay for her gas or mortgage again, let's elect her this round.

Ride a horse mfer's, we deserve it for being so fucking stupid letting this BS happen.

sarc off.... Not trying to offend any friends on zh with these comments. That's not my point but it just amazes me that our brain dead goverment has not woke the fuck up yet.

I'm going to go ride my horse if you junking me lol. I'm out......



Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:31 | 1176413 QQQBall
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No need to ride a horse. If you don't like the prcie of gasoline, just buy another car.


Barry "Let Them Eat Cake" Soetero

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 18:29 | 1176600 Teamtc321
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No seriously, I physically went and rode my good cow horse. Went for a ride lol.

I love my physical silver and my good saddle horse lol.

I raise cattle/horses on the side, sound's like when this thing hit's the wall, all the good horses I have we can trade some for more silver with the price of gas at 50 bucks lol.

Diesel is going to ramp the fuck out of inflation friends. Our average food travels something like 1500 miles in this country to your store. Ouch, diesel fuel is a big expense on our economy. Nat gas works to power 18 wheelers, semi's also. We could atleast help our transportation with clean burning natural gas that we have huge supplies of right here at home.

Go look it up, Clean Energy, ticker symbol CLNE. It's a start anyway. We have nothing to loose and everything to gain by finally getting the green energy started and start now USA.

I have heard that Flying J, a truck stop is willing to install 15 system's on I-10 between east and west coast. Atleast our main passage would be open for transport with a fuel we have right here. Ryder, US postal and fed ex are now taking part as well. Nat gas is a ONSHORE resource we have also. Huge fields in Penn. N Dakota, Oklahoma, Texas etc. Here is a link to the fueling stations now.

Atleast tell our brain dead rep to get off there ass and push a plan finally. Even if this economy hit's the wall we atleast will have a supply from coast to coast for the re-start.

Here is a link to a personal pledge to push the plan.  

Thanks for not junking me to death while I was riding my horse lol.


Sat, 04/16/2011 - 19:20 | 1176675 MSimon
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I like this plan:

A motor with 60% efficiency. Funded by DARPA. Work at MSU.

Write your Cong. Critter and tell him to up the funding.


Sun, 04/17/2011 - 17:01 | 1178465 TruthInSunshine
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Let gas go to $10 a gallon.

In fact, I hope it does.

The sooner, the closer everything breaks down, and we get demand destruction of a proportion that should have happened a long time ago, that takes down the prices of most commodities by percentages that create purchasing power through deflation, so that a middle class can re-emerge that is able to provide proper food, shelter, education and health care for their children on a one-wage income.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 15:33 | 1176318 tiger7905
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At least most of you aren't in Canada, it's currently $1.38/liter!

Works out to $5.22/US Gallon.

Better map of prices here for US:

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:23 | 1176394 williambanzai7
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I have lived outside of the US for many years and I am always amazed at the cheap fuel price when I visit home. But not for the reason you think. I am amazed at the stupidity and lack of foresight reflected in that low price. Every time the price rises this way, we are getting no benefit as a country. All the despots are pocketing the difference.

It would be different if we had an actual energy policy and the guts to impose a real energy tax at the pump.

But watching the current fiscal circus, you realize that this idea is a pipe dream. 


Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:36 | 1176421 Rodent Freikorps
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Why would a local tax, at the pump, do anything more than empower the corrupt PTB that already exist?

What would it change, other than to make the middle class poorer?

Why is a poorer middle class a good thing?

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:48 | 1176435 williambanzai7
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No pain no gain.

When you wait for the current conditions to arise it is already way too late to do anything sensible about it.

We think there is energy abundance and there clearly is not. We send our young to pay for the illusion in war. And now instead of planning for what is coming, we are going to suffer through it instead as a country.

Obama's ten year goal is more empty last minute bull shit. Do you run your life the way they, the politicians, run the country? No of course you don't. If you did you would be a street person.


Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:51 | 1176449 Rodent Freikorps
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Tell ya what:

We'll do that right after China and India tank their economies following that enlightened policy.

Right after.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 19:21 | 1176676 sun tzu
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These assclowns think that if the government creates an energy policy, we will no longer have high prices or shortages. LOL

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 19:24 | 1176679 sun tzu
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So you're saying that the European economies aren't suffering from high energy prices due to their higher fuel taxes? The despots aren't pocketing money off the Europeans? So France and Britain with their high fuel taxes are really bombing Libya for humanitarian reasons?

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 20:00 | 1178796 Abitdodgie
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The european cars that Joe Sixpack drives do between 40-100 mpg, otherwise they would not sell.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 01:12 | 1177359 steve from virginia
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Cost is relative, what matters is purchasing power. High prices are a form of rationing, the alternative is shortages and physical rationing.

We are long past peak oil on a dollar- for- dollar basis. This took place in 1998 when a barrel of WTI cost about $10. Those were the days, my friend, they might return but wages will be pennies a day. Forget the gas, nobody will be able to afford a car, no car companies will exist any more. This is the relentless logic of resource constraints and deindustrialization ...

Coming to a town near you and damned soon.

World's defense agencies suggest shortages beginning next year. Physical peak oil took place in 2005. Rates of decline are accelerating across the oil production ambit.

This decline in fuel availability at a price that allows profitable use which is the underlying cause of our current economic 'malaise'. Resource decline of the waste- based economy: there is no turning back no solutions no easy answers only bankruptcy, industrial insufficiency, currency imbalances, deflationary collapse and the end- game. Peak oil is simple: at some point, some(all) must do without.

The outcome is the class war, the redux of the Great Depression. This was and will be the silent struggle between the bloated 'Haves' and the rest. The war was fought with the only weapon allowed to the dispossessed: their willingness to hold currency and thereby give it value. This is behind the 'disinflation' strategy of central banks and their agents. Once the casino tricks are ignored and the bankers' 'easy money' blandishments, they fade away like the nightmares they are.

Business as usual is finished, kaput, dead: so are cars and freeways and idiotic 'mobility' and all that goes with it. The challenge is to adapt to the new reality or die.

Fuck the gas, get a bicycle.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 04:50 | 1179412 slaughterer
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And now a moment for the opposite perspective from ZH (please junk it out of existence quickly):

Crude oil futures fell for the first time in four days on Monday April 18, after the world’s largest oil exporter Saudi Arabia said the global market had more than ample supplies of crude.  

On the New York Mercantile Exchange, light, sweet crude futures for delivery in June traded at USD109.55 a barrel during European morning trade, slumping 0.45%. 

It earlier fell to a daily low of USD109.33 a barrel. 

Saudi Arabia’s Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi said on Sunday that the global oil market was “overbalanced” and that surging oil prices were “out of the hands of OPEC”.

Speaking at industry conference in Kuwait, al-Naimi said that Saudi Arabia cut its daily oil output by around 800,000 barrels in March to 8.29 million barrels per day, due to poor demand. 

His comments follow similar remarks made by United Arab Emirates Energy Minister Mohamed al-Hamli last week, who said that world oil markets remained “adequately supplied” and that “the surge in oil prices is a reflection of geopolitics but not the fundamentals.”



Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:52 | 1175850 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Thank you WB--when are you making shirts out of your art? Try Cafe Press.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:05 | 1175879 Spalding_Smailes
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Ripoff ......

I buy my shirts ( Haynes Beefy T's - 6.0 oz) wholesale for $2.50 each XL or L. The setup fee for the silkscreen is $20.00 and then each one color hit cost 45 cents per shirt.

For something in cmyk your looking at $ 5.00 max for the shirt and the four color silkscreen........ But I have been in the printing industry in Chicago for 18 years ( my family 40 ) so I have a few vendor contacts.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:16 | 1176388 williambanzai7
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I have a shop on zazzle:

We settled on zazzle after looking at many options, including quality of product, pricing and convenience. I am sure the product could be done for a lower price if we cut out the middle man out. I wish I could do much better on the artists margin, which is basic to put it politely.

But then you would never hear from me because I would be on the phone all day long arguing with Chinese suppliers.

To all who have purchased so far, I express my sincerest thanks.


Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:54 | 1175867 Spalding_Smailes
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Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:58 | 1175871 Burnbright
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You should watch this, hilarious. 

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:01 | 1175878 CrazyCooter
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This is awesome. It is also why I damn near blow a gasket everytime I talk to someone about debt/inflation/monetary policy/etc; most people are *ignorant* yet think they have a handle on the subject.

It is like debating the beauty of a rose garden with someone who is red-green color blind; they are simply convinced they are right because dammit, I see it right in front of me!

This is going to be such an ugly sh!tshow when it hits the fan...



Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:43 | 1175960 zerozulu
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This is like explaining color Orange to a blind.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 14:38 | 1176184 Chuck Yeager
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Actually, the pain is making people wake up.  As posts by Cognitive Dissonance said, people have a vested interest in Things Staying The Same.  If you tried to explain this perfect sh!tstorm coming, they would not only ignore you, they would mock you!

Ah, but things have changed...  All can see the dark clouds, they feel the pain in alot of new and exquisite ways. And they are questioning.  Their previously held belief system Is Not Working.

Our job then, is to be there at that moment.  To explain.  And to have some compassion.  They, like us, are only human, struggling to find happiness.  It is incredibly easy to le4t your Ego get in the way here.  ("Listen you idiot, you are going to lose it all because I am smarter than you and here is why!")   But this would be a mistake.  No one will think you are smarter.  They need a means to save face as they say in China.  Offer it to them.  I mean, people are working 12 hour days just to keep a job...they don;t have time to become informed.  And isn't the real goal here to inform and enlighten so that change spreads?

If we share knowledge AND compassion, then you, I and the others here at ZH can really make The People question Powers That Be, as well as their clowns (the Fed) and their tools (our federal government)

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:15 | 1176022 I am Jobe
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Thanks. Funny and true. I think i want to be supplier for this.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:05 | 1176372 Confucious 222
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$4K+ for a casket when you buy 10?


Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:21 | 1175914 12ToothAssassin
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Gas is really cheap here in CA - $4.69 for 87



Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:18 | 1176024 I am Jobe
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Do you get a home or IPAD with a full tank. Lets ask Dudley.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:26 | 1175927 Kickaha
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I have an idea for you which is way too good to just let sit inside my brain.  I have no skills with creating graphics or manipulating digital photos.  May I contact you somehow?

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:26 | 1176406 williambanzai7
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Sure, on twitter: @williambanzai7, on my blog: or on Flicker:

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 17:11 | 1176490 Kickaha
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I'll put it in a comment under the Bernank as Capt. of Titanic picture.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:19 | 1176026 j0nx
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What's so sad is that probably the only people in the country that understand what this image means are already on this forum. The other 99% of Americans just blame the A-rabs and the oil companies.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:16 | 1176384 oh_bama
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People on the board are too negative and unamerican!! They don't even support the FED, the QEs and BEN? WTF?

  • Be patriotic and send a thank you note to Ben, and ASK HIM FOR QE3!


Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:31 | 1176412 williambanzai7
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I remember the fuel lines in the 70s. People were thinking all kinds of things. You watch, as the price goes up running into Memorial Day, the gas station is going to be a great place to get people's political attention.


Sat, 04/16/2011 - 16:13 | 1176380 oh_bama
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  • TAKE TRAINS TO WORK and help the environment!!
  • Ben---QE3 ASAP!! Economy can be even stronger with QE3! Just DO IT!!
Sun, 04/17/2011 - 01:13 | 1177354 Freddie
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Hope & Change.  Thank the fvcks here on ZH who voted for mugabe.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 10:00 | 1177668 Atomizer
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Nice job

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:18 | 1175782 chubbar
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OT but please consider going to this site and signing the motion.

"On January 21, 2010, with its ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, the Supreme Court ruled that corporations are persons, entitled by the U.S. Constitution to buy elections and run our government. Human beings are people; corporations are legal fictions.

We, the People of the United States of America, reject the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Citizens United, and move to amend our Constitution to:

* Firmly establish that money is not speech, and that human beings, not corporations, are persons entitled to constitutional rights.

* Guarantee the right to vote and to participate, and to have our vote and participation count.

* Protect local communities, their economies, and democracies against illegitimate "preemption" actions by global, national, and state governments.

The Supreme Court is misguided in principle, and wrong on the law. In a democracy, the people rule. We Move to Amend."

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 11:48 | 1175840 flattrader
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Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:36 | 1175882 RichardP
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* Guarantee the right to vote and to participate, and to have our vote and participation count.

The U.S. Constitution does not grant people the right to vote for President.  That right/responsibility is placed onto the states.  We are a republic, not a democracy.  The members of the electoral college are free to ignore the votes of the people, although they usually don't.

* Protect local communities, their economies, and democracies against illegitimate "preemption" actions ...

Local communities exist only because the state allows them to.  The ability to preemt the individual or few for the common good is one of the fundamental powers of the Federal and State governments.  Protecting the commons is one of the main reasons that the Federal and State governments exist.

The Supreme Court is misguided in principle, and wrong on the law.

You have chosen to live under a government whose founders decreed that the U.S. Supreme court should be the final arbiter of the law as it is written (Congress is free to change the language of the law).  You are powerless to change this setup.  What you are free to do is go to a non-sovereign piece of land and form your own government.

Humans are flawed creatures.  All governments are created by humans.  Therefore, all governments have flaws.  We can't do any better.  Thus, the preamble to the U.S. Constitution:  We, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union ...  Not "in order to create a perfect union" (that's not possible), but "in order to create a more perfect union".  One that is still imperfect, but that is better than what has gone before.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:11 | 1176011 Founders Keeper
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Sat, 04/16/2011 - 17:54 | 1176558 VisualCSharp
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The US Constitution does not "grant" any rights. It instead simply states what they are.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 20:23 | 1176705 RichardP
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OK.  The Founding Fathers, through the provisions written into the U.S. Constitution, did not grant the people the right to vote for President.  They laid that right/responsibility onto the States.

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 01:28 | 1177370 technovelist
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You have chosen to live under a government whose founders decreed that the U.S. Supreme court should be the final arbiter of the law as it is written (Congress is free to change the language of the law).  You are powerless to change this setup.  What you are free to do is go to a non-sovereign piece of land and form your own government.

Where exactly is this "non-sovereign piece of land"?


Sat, 04/16/2011 - 12:29 | 1175933 sun tzu
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The law was flawed and unconstitutional. It also banned all political advertising within 90 days of an election. How can people get their message out to the public without advertisements? Most political blogs have to raise money through donations in order to survive. Money is speech. 

If you want real reform, then ban the little (D) and (R) behind the name on the voting cards.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 19:31 | 1176689 s0lspot
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Well you organize debates on TV shows.

Political advertising...We dont have this shit yet in Europe. When i was in secondary school i got to be the class delegate coz i gave sour sweets to all the others. But we are adults.


What an insanity.

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 13:38 | 1176067 Pseudo Anonym
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the Supreme Court ruled that corporations are persons, entitled by the U.S.

The supreme court was correct:

Sat, 04/16/2011 - 14:17 | 1176155 Rodent Freikorps
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We've had enough of the Supremes making Imperial law. They need to stick to what is written.

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