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Geithner Gone Wild: Treasury Entertains 100 Year and GDP-Linked Bonds to Fill New $2.4 Trillion "Demand"
Reprinted with permission from EconomicPolicyJournal.com
Each quarter, we break down the minutes of the Treasury Borrowing Advisory Committee (TBAC) meeting where primary dealers and other members of the investment industry advise various members of the Treasury what the market will bear in terms of debt issuance. There are usually more than a few interesting tidbits as we learn just what's on the mind of those in the business of buying Treasury coupons, holding them for two weeks, and selling them to the Federal Reserve at a higher price. And because the Federal Reserve viz a viz its System Open Market Account (SOMA) is the largest holder of Treasury debt, none other than its two managers, Brian Sack and Joshua Frost, were present as representatives of the world's largest central bank cum [unhedged] hedge fund. The current minutes are shorter than usual, but worth reading as they reveal an emboldened, opportunistic Treasury looking forward to novel ways to fill an ever expanding appetite for US debt, which is all but guaranteed as a result of new, socialized banking regulations.
The member recommended that Treasury develop products that target the needs of three different investor classes, specifically banks, pension funds/insurers, and retail investors. The member estimated that demand from these three investor classes could total $2.4 trillion over the next 5-years, if the right products were offered.
On the supply side, opportunities to expand the investor base have developed due to market dislocations following the financial crisis. Adecline in GSE debt issuance, the wind-down of bank debt issued under the Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program (TLGP), dislocation in the municipal market, and the contraction of the commercial paper market have resulted in a shortage of high quality assets.
Expanding the Treasury investor base to include more domestic investors by offering new products is desirable and would reduce overall funding risk. The presenting member noted that other sovereigns’ debt(Italy, Japan, and the UK) is largely funded by domestic investors. The member further noted that it was important to avoid cannibalizing the current auction process and that any new products should add to demand.
The presentation next discussed a variety of specific securities and debt management techniques that could potentially aid Treasury in achieving its goal of expanding the investor base and financing the government at the lowest cost over time.The presenting member first discussed “ultra-long” bond issuance, which were defined as securities issued with a tenor of 40-, 50- and/or 100-years. The member noted significant demand exists for high-quality, long-duration bonds from entities with longer-dated liabilities. It was noted that duration tapers off rapidly with maturity and is dependent on the underlying coupon on the bond. As a result, liability-driven investors would likely use the STRIPS market to capture additional duration exposure.The presenting member then discussed increasing the U.S. Treasury investor base through callable issuance. The presenter noted the emerging gap between demand and supply in this market, driven by less GSE callable debt and MBS issuance. The member added that Treasuries are a relatively close substitute for Agencies, especially in the 2- to 5-year maturity ranges with 6-month to 1-year lock outs. According to the member, accounts that buy callable product include domestic banks, foreign banks, state and local governments, fund managers, insurance companies, pension funds and foreign investors. The presenting member noted that demand may exist for longer-maturity callable paper. This space is currently occupied by corporate names carrying ratings of BBB or lower.
Examining current pricing for Agency product, the presenter estimated it would cost Treasury an additional 18 basis points to issue a 5-year bond callable in 1-year and an additional 8 basis points to issue a 2-year bond callable in 6-months.While this strategy would give the Treasury additional optionality in managing its debt and potentially increase its investor base, the presenting member remarked that demand for callable product tends to decrease if investors expect interest rates to increase. If market volatility increased or we entered a rising rate environment, the member mentioned that the Treasury would have to offer higher yield enhancements to maintain a regular issuance program.The discussion then turned to potential demand for new money market instruments. The presenter concluded that new regulations may be creating room for increased bill and callable issuance to fill the emerging gap between Money Market Mutual Funds and issuers. Regarding bonds targeted for individual investors, the member concluded that increasing household ownership of Treasuries has the potential to broaden the investor base significantly.The discussion turned to floating rate securities with short-dated reference rates such as bonds indexed to the 6-month T-bill rate with a semiannual reset. While such instruments would not protect Treasury against increased debt service costs in a rising rate environment, they would reduce rollover risks. CMT-style floaters, which have a reference rate that is generally on a maturity much longer than the reset period, have had mixed success in other countries due to the complexity of pricing.GDP-linked bonds were noted to be an interesting product for which more research needs to be done to assess their potential. A discussion ensued about the possible increased demand for TIPS from separating the final cash flow of TIPS into the unadjusted principal and the inflation accrual components in order to create a “pure inflation” component.
An energetic discussion followed regarding the merits of different debt instruments discussed in the presentation. The committee concluded that this topic deserved further review.
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"it's like looking back to 1910 and wonder what's changed since then..."
So good, it should be repeated. You are exactly correct. Well said.
I think all the hubbub about 100 year bonds is irrelevant – because who would buy then? Seriously. Maybe a few Japanese? Geithner thinks he is seing greater fools, when he is actually looking at his own reflection.
Firms, nations, clubs, dynasties, any social structure that last more than 100 years.
They would have to trust that they would be repaid in currency that is would not be debased or else they would demand very high interest rate.
So ..., we're going to continue with the civilized central banking system, and uncivilized conquer and plunder is completely off the table?
100 year bond = "Give me your money and fuck off."
i think we have to wrap our minds around the fact that these guys are literally stoned out of their minds.
its that simple. because no one who is straight could be so damn dumb as to believe anyone on god's green earth would buy a 100 year bond.
i think we have to wrap our minds around the fact that these guys are literally stoned out of their minds.
its that simple. because no one who is straight could be so damn dumb as to believe anyone on god's green earth would buy a 100 year bond.
The Feds would...
There ya have it. Who would these bonds be for actually?
This would make the road much longer and make for better can kicking.
Don't worry - Basel VI will mandate bank ownership of 100-year treasuries as part of their tier-1
...uh, based on my experience with bank trust departments, they would be lined up 10 deep to buy these.....
They do exist but are from companies that have assets that can be seized if they don't make the payments. Does anyone seriously think they can seize US government assets for failure to pay?
What's wrong with, "Buying Time"?
The 30 yr mortgage made 'buying' a home and owning it after 30 years an illusion. No one told the mortgagee that R.E. Taxes would go on forever and rise to the level of an effective permanent mortgage payment or that the mortgagee would never really own the property outright. In effect, taking a lifetime lease on the property till either the heirs or the next buyer took over the perpetual payments.
Make it a thousand years, timmy.
the home buyer who takes a loan from the bank is called "mortgagor". He mortgages the house to the bank, who is the "mortgagee"
Thx, Falcon. I should have checked it first since I had my own doubts.
100 year bonds ??!?!?!?!?
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It's a Brother-In-Law Bond
Whenever your brother-in-law borrows money, you know it will take a 100 years if ever to see the money again...
Timmay Jeethner is Amerika's
Fucked Up Brother-In-Law
BWAH-HAH-HA-hah-ha-ha-ah-ah...hah...
BRILLIANT!
You have just solved Treasury's problem using Hosni Mubarak 'September election' technology.
Convertible treasuries, fully convertible into gold at $1,000/oz at the end of the 100 years. By the time 100 years has lapsed everyone will be too old to remember.
You Sir, are a genius!
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web bot, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.
this is ZH, not yahoo asshat.
I agree with your comment.
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Those guys are completely out of their collective minds, they can write Monty Python scripts after all this is over
100 year bond equals public anouncement of the fact that they're helpless, and hopeless.
there is absolutely no way at all that such long term debt could ever be practical.
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Infinity Bonds, would be good.