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Germany Sends Three Warships To Libya
As we pointed out yesterday, while the US navy is seriously starting to amass in the Persian Gulf region, it has left the Mediterranean and more importantly, the Libyan coastline unguarded. With concerns that Gaddafi will follow through with what we speculated on Monday was a Saddam-like "after me the flood" act and burn his oil facilities, this may not be the most prudent thing. Luckily, here comes Germany. According to Spiegel, Germany has sent three warships to Libya which may possibly get involved in a "military engagement."
From MSN.de:
The German Navy has sent three ships of the operations and training association in 2011 in the maritime area between Malta and the Libyan coast.
The Spiegel Online reports akutell. The three ships are the supplier "Berlin" and the frigate 'Brandenburg and Rheinland-Pfalz. "Overall, the ships will have about 600 soldiers on board.
As Spiegel Online report on the EU takes in an emergency, a military engagement in Libya considered. The news magazine refers back to an unnamed diplomats.
h/t Doug
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Since when the Knight in the Shining Armour, the US, is compelled by the treacherous French?
The US only acts according to its will.
But dilution of responsibility is a good thing.
Fertile for fantasists.
Sell it to the Euro trash, dude. I no longer care if they live or die.
actually, the US did fly around france in order to respect their wishes. We could have overflown if we wanted, but it wasn't worth getting their panties in a knot. How do you recognize a french tank? Easy- they have headlights in the rear and come with a three speed reverse...
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Israel you mean?
Shalom
You reason goodly...
Indeed, the naval forces of the USA are, as we speak, protecting the world against the mighty Iranian armada that has traversed the Suez Canal to terrorize the Eastern Med and our plucky little ally.
It's coming from a guy that thinks nano-weaponry means squirrels with machine guns. He musta left the /sarc tag in his mom's basement when he left to go fill out fast food applictions and hopped on the McDiddles free wifi.
/sarc tags are aids for the slow of wit, who should not be here in the first place.
You can tell by all the junks.
Thanks for seeing the fluffy tail. Most don't.
I dig your pic... fuck them.
Quoting JW n FL... I dig your pic... fuck them.
Surely these are more your style...
http://img412.imageshack.us/i/gunze.jpg
Personally I have a slight distaste for people obsessed with guns, some people seem to develop god-like complexes when they get started.
Iran hasn't invaded another country in 250 years and has no nukes.
Iran: http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iran/2006/iran-060406-irn...
Why is it you believe your personal position as chickenhawk on ZH is helping anyone anywhere?
You don't know what you are talking about or asking for
watch this and go away:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-VkpR-wka8
Thanks for linking to Dr. Rokke's seminar. I watched the whole presentation. Good stuff.
I've worked as a hazardous materials specialist and on Superfund remediation sites for the past 10 years or so.
How convenient for the military-industrial complex to discover a very cost-effective way to dispose of their nuclear waste through the use of depleted uranium (U238). They dumped 350 TONS of the shit on the birthplace of civilization.
If a government has the ability and wherewithall to knowingly and willfully contaminate their own soldiers through the use of U238 munitions, one must ask themselves what other radiological or chemical weapons they would be willing to use against us.
Anyway, thanks for the links.
We should just stay out of this and let them all kill eachother
I take that back, we should continue supplying weapons so they can kill eachother with the greatest degree of efficency.
We should just stay out of this and let them all kill eachother
I take that back, we should continue supplying weapons so they can kill eachother with the greatest degree of efficency.
Is that really a yank saying that comment?
I was expecting a send the planes to bomb them kind of approach since that's what all the yanks want.
I am pro sending shipments of grenades and M16's and just let them genocide themselves.
It's not our place to interfere if thats what they want.
Then when they've finished the job we can just send in Shell/Exxon.
Actually I think they prefer the planes as methods of murder. And look, they are the ones who committ suicide blowing their own people up. This is what they want. If we just gave everyone in the ME a gun we would finally have peace in the ME for decades.
This Yank wants to go with the original statement -- stay out of it and let them kill each other. Helping out either way is worse PR, and there's plenty of oil on our own continent if the hippies will let us get to it.
For a region that didn't register to the US pretty much AT ALL until the 20s, we've spent a lot of time, money, and goodwill fighting shadows where we're not wanted. Bennie et al want a recovery -- no better way to do that than start drilling at home and let the rest of the world worry about MidEast oil.....
If you think that shale is a neat & tidy little operation w/no consequences in regards to its extraction, I'd say you should go out and live on some land where they extract that stuff, and tell me how you like it after a long enough time?
I say you should live sans oil for a while and tell us how you like that.
Why are you speaking to me? I wouldn't waste my time on you IRL, be happy you're getting this much time from me right now.
You = lost cause.
Didn't say it was neat or tidy, just that there's plenty of it here for exploitation.
We have to cut the tie to MidEast madness ASAP; starting sooner gets us free quicker than starting later. Teddy Kennedy doesn't want to look out his back yard and see rigs (paraphrasing the bay windfarm)? Too bad.....
Lived in a drilling area growing up -- not a big deal; it was all farmland anyway. So a 1/2 acre gets "spoiled" to pull up the Tea. Beats having farmers grow corn on the same plot of land to burn away as fuel that is <60% as efficient.....
I was referring to the extraction process of shale and its tendency to contaminate ground/drinking water. Land isn't any good for anything if there's no usable water to support it--and drinkable water is set to become the most valuable commodity by the end of this century.
The yanks of yesterday, perhaps...when we were all sufficiently duped by the mantra that we were projecting power abroad for the sake of 'freedom' and to liberate oppressed peoples. Who wouldn't want to be noble knights riding stallions into the fray, slaying demonic evil beasts while rescuing people in distress?
Sadly, many of us realize most of this fantasy turned out to be just that...fantasy. The average American still see ourselves as the 'good guys', and on an individual level, we mostly are. Unfortunately, that noble sentiment is all too frequently twisted into serving the interests of the global bankster elites who seek to run the show, whether by pen or by unwitting mercenary sword.
Pull our boys and girls out of the middle-eastern meat-grinder and bring them all back stateside, and for God's sake protect the continental U.S. border from the ongoing invasion of third-worlders who know nothing but aristocratic oligarchies/dictatorships, and are thus predisposed to willingly live under such governance.
I know, I know...to dream the impossible dream.
Das Boot Bitchez!
Yawol...Afrika Corps! mein 'fuhreste' Merkel...But seriously, this is a first move to discourage those Balkan countries who are providing mercenaries (over 100000 currently!) to Mooooammerrr K. Aunty Merkel is not amused. Get those dirty boys out or else...kaput time is coming...I hope they can hear in MonteNegro/Sarajevo/Kosovo/Macedonia...etc.
Don't shit with us EU we need that oil badly, but now without Khaddafi.That has been decided...in Brussels.
Really? Now tell me...what kind of fighting experience do those krautboys have?
Zero, zip, nada.
What's that you say? Their high scores on Gears of War?
They will crap their pants when they are in REAL combat.
The balkan mercs will dispatch those krauts in no time.
Nazi boys are going home in a body bag! doo dah doo dah
Sad, but very true. German Bundeswehr is a joke.
"Overall the ships will have about 600 soldiers on board." - Hoa that's how good German military is, we can take down a country with just 600 soldiers! ;)
Maybe if they were South Africans.
+1
or from Argentina..
The modern German military arrives on scene. It's about time -- decent field kitchens are sooo important for morale. Are they going to cook enough wurst for everyone, or is the picnic pot luck? I hear their dessert camo aprons are da bomb.
WHat about the SPanish and Italian navy?! WHy German
Fist one to get big ships to Lybia gets to plunder the Libyan gold.
Italy can still get there first.
Because German politicians are eager to show how "responsible" they are. We are just dumb enough to step in there and Spain & Italy are laughing and waiting.
Look at the World government pull together. The President knows he cannot get involved in another Arab nation so here comes proxy Germany. We will provide intelligence and financial support.
Amazing how anytime the global ponzi is in danger or oil supply disruptions that they grow a conscience toward genocide.
Bullets for those with oil ad harsh rhetoric for those with nukes.
"the President knows"
Lol -- now that's a stretch. Between Clinton's State Department and Panetta's CIA, there isn't enough HUMINT knowledge to fill a thimble. Add in one feckless CIC, and you have the makings of a true global mess.
The ganglord is sending his trustees. Purpose of a hierarchy...
"The President knows he cannot get involved in another Arab nation so here comes proxy Germany"
Very good point John, haven't thought of it that way.
Then agian, when has American ever given a fuck what others though of them?
Thanks for saying "proxy" instead of the more correct "vassal" word.
But it's even better, Germany will do it for free, now need to pay them.
„Ich liebe es wann ein plan funktioniert“ A-team - Nach synchronisiert
+T
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Mr. T
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The sprouts of Brussels...the shouts of Tripoli...the louts of Monte Negro...the routs of the camel brigade without their Lawrence, instead their Mooooamerrrr!
the frucking army is using "psy-ops on congress for more taxpayer money. this country is toast.
http://nakedempire.wordpress.com/
This guy seems to know the details of the German naval forces.
http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/interest.htm
TD, if I recall correctly, indicated that the Iranian ships were an old frigate and supply ship.
Seems fairly innocuous.
Just wondering if this is another 'Enola Gay' in the making.
Germans sending a little protection for their investment in Italy? Or maybe it's goofy Qa-daffy's 'getaway' armada...
How many farts of sauerkraut to knock dead a Moooamerrr shark without his Ukranian nanny to hold his hand or whatever?
who starts dropping bombs first?
get the party cooking.
They are only there to evacuate German citizens. So don't get too overexcited. German Navy is also very weak. The only good thing about German navy are the submarines, because they are the best in the world. Forget about the rest. Germany military is weak today. Our weapon manufacturers are good (Heckler & Koch), though.
I'd hate to be rescued by submarine...Never liked'em...I consider "Das Boot" to be a horror movie...
I'd rather stay and join the fight instead.
Arrrrrrrrgh, matey. Underwater only fish can hear you scream.
Don't fuel my fears, aaarrgh....
Our Minister of Defence is slightly distracted: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,747264,00.html
Anyone else take note of the U.S. Navy's recruitment ads which declare the Navy to be a "global force for good"?
Yes, the ad is a sad testament to where we're headed. I'm old enough to remember days when we still pretended to be a constitutional republic.
As am I, my friend, yet I hold out hope that we may see those days arrive again - perhaps not as we have known, but as our forefathers knew. They shall not come without much strife and anguish, but the fruits of the labor will be worth the pain.
http://www.southernnationalcongress.org/
The USN has always produced some of the best recruitment ads. I recall one commercial back in the mid-1980's (around the time that I joined the USN) where they used a lot of live fire exercise clips.
Something like this:
Missile Operations off the Coast of Hawaii
cue multiple guided-missile warship scene and "general quarters" alarm
surface-to-air missiles being rapidly prepped and loaded on rail systems for launch
combat information center scene and fire control with keys being inserted
multiple missile launch scene
The Navy. It's not just a job. It's an adventure.
Libya doesn't even crack our top-15 oil imports by national origin (as of Nov 2010). Germany/Italy and the rest of the EU have a much bigger dog in this fight. I'm sure keeping the 5th Fleet's home port from melting into a chaotic soup is slightly higher on our list of things to do today.
Respectfully, let's not forget that international oil companies generally try to make sure than oil transit lines are as short as possible, and oil markets are international. Our Navy protects oil transit routes all over the globe.
Why not ger eally tough and send in the Swiss Navy?
THIS IS THE FIRST MILITAIRY ENFORCEMENT FROM GERMANY SINCE WOII!!!
WHERE IS THE EU APROVAL!?!
Germany is one of the US colonies and we're spread a little thin at the moment.
That colony just bought your crown jewel - NYSE.
They just over paid for it by 1,000's of % and it was an ego purchase, thusly we will buy it back for less than it sold and make it profitable again later... after the dust settles.
No it didn't. EuroNext stock holders will have 60% of the new company, but guess who holds all the important positions etc. - right NYSE folks. Also guess who owns the EuroNext stocks anyway? A tip, it's not Germans ...
Kreigsmarine, bitchez!!!!!!
Damn, you beat me to it.
"Luckily, here comes Germany"
Yippee, Kriegsmarine, yippee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holland is sending a warship too.
HMS. Tromp will arrive this friday. (25th of februari)
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/9089068/__Fregat_Tromp_naar_Libi__.html
Maarten Tromp kicked ass. Be proud of him.
When was the last time the Dutch navy fired a shot in anger? Camperdown?
Somalia pirates.
Holland sent troops to Serbia and looked happened to them...flogged by the locals.
Any Dutch military ensemble is about as useless as Bernanke's quatitative easing experiment.
The Dutch are even worse than the French military...who run away before being completely exposed as pansies.
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Holland is sending a warship too.
HMS. Tromp will arrive this friday. (25th of februari)
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/9089068/__Fregat_Tromp_naar_Libi__.html
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That is a Great looking boat!
Achtung Bitches, Deutsche Marine!
Who would of thought.....German warships returning to Tobruk. Comedy is tragedy plus time....
The reason Germany is sending warships to Libya is to steal Lybian gold.
Shouldn't they go to Lybia if they want Lybian gold?
They should send those warships to NYC to escort the German gold back to Germany. Of course this will never happen as Germany is just a vassal state of the USA.
There's now a report that HMS Cumberland, a frigate, has docked in Benghazi and is starting to evacuate British nationals. More warships on the way.
This could get really interesting.
I told you to never underestimate the long reach of JP Morgan. They are loading up on Libyan gold&silver. Just like they loaded up on Tunisian and Egyptian PMs.
English, German, Italian, American armies... doing the Morgue's dirty work.
man, you elevate stupid to a whole new dimension man.
I bet the Jews are Freeking out ..You have the US Navy Warships run by a Muslim Nut , and 3 German Warships..
the Jews hate Germans and Muslims..
Did the medical marijahuchi clinic have a sale again? You really shouldn't spend your entire tax refund on blueberrybud, even if it's half off.
I wonder, what size crematoriums you can fit on those ships?
I saw three ships come sailing in
On Raging Freedom day, on Raging Freedom day;
I saw three ships come sailing in
On Raging Freedom day in the morning.
And what was in those ships all three,
On Raging Freedom day, on Raging Freedom day;
And what was in those ships all three,
On Raging Freedom day in the morning.
Hobnailed boots and birthing clinics,
On Raging Freedom day, on Raging Freedom day;
Hobnailed boots and birthing clinics,
On Raging Freedom day in the morning.
The best navy movie in the world was Moby Dick followed by 'twenty thousand leagues...', 'mutiny on the bounty' followed by 'Caine mutiny', followed by 'red October'. But my last choice is obviously debatable like the rest. The english movie 'battle of river plate' was a classic. Long live the great white whale and the tiger shark!