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Germany Sets Greek Restructuring Deadline: End Of Summer

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Mon, 04/18/2011 - 08:51 | 1179734 EscapeKey
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 Supposedly the thinking in Europe is that banks should have built up a sufficiently large capital buffer 

Not necessary, they've offloaded each and every bond onto the ECB.

The entities which will hurt are the pension funds.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 08:56 | 1179749 Quintus
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Yeah.  How much Greek Debt has been stuffed into local banks and pension funds to make it look like there was a market for that junk.

Greek pension funds take haircut = more Greeks riot in streets.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:00 | 1179756 topcallingtroll
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I dont think the greeks were stupid enough to eat their own cooking. After all, they worked in the restaurant and knew better than to risk their own health.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 08:55 | 1179753 topcallingtroll
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Yeah it appears now they have been quietly planning this for a while, public statements to the contrary.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 08:58 | 1179755 bonddude
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More bank fraud from one of the bankers that sunk IndyMac.


Mon, 04/18/2011 - 08:51 | 1179738 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Austerity is for losers.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:02 | 1179769 Sudden Debt
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It's like they asked for a solution on how to handle their debt problem to the makers of TheOnion...


Monthy Python would be my second guess...




Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:06 | 1179784 topcallingtroll
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Hey belgium dude. Give us a european view of the greek mess.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:09 | 1179822 EscapeKey
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The UK view is that people are pretty pissed off with having to bail bankers out, not just in our own country, but also abroad. We have to contribute to a continuous amount of bailouts, despite being borderline broke ourselves.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:11 | 1179838 topcallingtroll
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But it is greek citizens who will get mad when you.end their subsidy and cut up their credit card. Arent some pissed at subsidizing greeks too?

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:17 | 1179887 EscapeKey
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Well, afaik most just "blame the bankers" rather than aiming their anger specifically at the Greeks, Portuguese, Irish, ... Never underestimate a convenient target (not saying they're not guilty, but it's a lot easier just directing all anger at a scapegoat, than accept that states effectively have gone bankrupt through unsustainable deficit spending).

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:22 | 1179909 Sudden Debt
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Nobody actually gives a fuck, all is well in lala land :)


But the smart peopel are protecting themselves for inflation bigtime. The housing market is actually profiting from it because that's the easiest way to invest your money and keep it a bit safe.

Forecast for inflation are expected to be twice as much as it was in 2010 (2.7%)

Defaults on the PIGSS would actually be a good thing. Everybody is talking about a lockdown from the financial markets but if they would actually restructure, my guess is that it would only tak 3 months before they could enter the bonds market again and sell at a very good rate.

And that will cause the house of cards to fall even faster and push about 7 to 8 EU countries in default.



Mon, 04/18/2011 - 11:25 | 1180520 Confused
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I was just speaking about this with some of my German friends. They all seemed rather concerned.

But from the looks of the NYT article this morning, we are aiming to keep the Germans in line. What a load of shit.  


Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:04 | 1179794 topcallingtroll
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Hey belgium dude. Give us a european view of the greek mess.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:02 | 1179776 topcallingtroll
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Austerity is the financial equivalent of ignoring gravity. It is the splat you hear and feel when you cavalierly dismiss forces of nature.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 08:55 | 1179745 topcallingtroll
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What about moral hazard as the outraged irish and.portoguese demand their own restructuring.

This is going to be.fun to watch. Pull up a chair and pop a cold one.

We need a.club zero hedge where we can hang out, get drunk, debate, and watch the show.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 08:58 | 1179758 Urban Redneck
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I wonder how many of the big exporters have been calling the Bundesbank to complain about the Euro recently.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:11 | 1179824 topcallingtroll
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Good point!

Surely the world doesnt run that cynically does it?

( sound of silence, then cue lone cricket)

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:02 | 1179768 heyligen
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So prepare for the great Greek flu this summer. Highly contagious (difficult to contain, Bendonkey). From Greece to California and beyond.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:05 | 1179779 Josh Randall
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Nice, Summer is always good for a financial Blitzkreig

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:05 | 1179782 milanitaly
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Now we have discovered the real goal of banks' "stress tests".

To have time to face what ECB knew very well: the restructure of Greece debt.




Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:19 | 1179886 topcallingtroll
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They made public announcement of support and stability to quietly get all their ducks in a row and let the big players offload their bonds.

The ecb and emu will never have credibilty with ireland portoguese or spanish reassurances that all is well.

They have now lost their credibility. No one will ever believe them when they say contagion is contained. We will all assume they are quietly helping the big players offload their positions.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:03 | 1179783 mynhair
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Will the Acropolis auction be held online?

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 19:44 | 1182198 StychoKiller
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If they could get Mike Holmes™ to rennovate the Parthenon, Greece could name their price!

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:04 | 1179793 Hansel
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So they admit a restructuring is needed, but they are going to kick the can for 4 more months anyway?  F'n procrastination planet.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:08 | 1179816 milanitaly
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Give German banks time to sell the last greek bonds

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:40 | 1180025 i-dog
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German bankers don't want their summer on Santorini spoiled.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:05 | 1179799 monopoly
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The ooze just keeps slowly moving forward. Cannot believe so many sheeples have no idea what is occuring on this planet.

And why would anyone have 1.00 deposited in C.


And they just cut our debt outlook to negative. It is starting.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:17 | 1179860 Flounder
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I agree with George Papa.  Why not extend the maturities out to infinity and make interest payments by selling more Greek infinity bonds?  Nobody ever gets their principal back only an income stream of German based euros.  What could go wrong?




Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:15 | 1179867 Seasmoke
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is this called extend and pretend or kick the can

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:21 | 1179911 topcallingtroll
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As the chinese say .....same bed, different dreams.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 19:46 | 1182200 StychoKiller
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Seems more like different bed(s), same nightmares!

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:16 | 1179869 giovanni_f
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ECB has ouzo bonds on its balance sheet. I am curious what bond restructuring restructuring will mean for the Euro


Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:22 | 1179921 kaiten
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"What will happen this time around when Greece becomes the first "Lehman" in the sovereign realm, and just how many trillions will have to be invested to undo "unforeseen" consequences?"


Nothing will happen because since Lehman central banks (re-)discovered the magic of printing presses.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 09:50 | 1180101 sangell
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Guess wants to get its EFSF contribution paid back now before G-PAP can do an Ireland with it and pour every EURO he can get his hands on into Greek Banks.

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