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And as of today...

Once again, Tim, good luck with that issuance of fresh $72 billion next week.

Oh, and did we mention there is $492 billion in maturities and $31 billion in interest outflows in May? We forgot?


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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:12 | 1239935 traderjoe
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Repudiate, bitchez!


*why does a sovereign country borrow its own currency - at interest - from private banks and corporations?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:15 | 1239953 cossack55
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Ask the Rothschilds.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:23 | 1239988 Re-Discovery
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I've always wondered, are there any Rothschilds left?  That call themselves Rothschilds?

I mean, the name doesn't get a lot of phony Rothschilds like that guy in the Hamptons who pretended to be a Rockefeller.  Do they throw good parties, or do they just lie around on piles of gold and do heroin (and other debauched crap I can't think of.)  Is it 'good to be a rothschilds' or do they all have hemophilia or other hereditary diseases?

If the quarteback of your favorite team was a Rothschilds, would you expect him to win every game?  Or do they not play sports.

I always thought if I fought a Rothschilds, I could kick his ass, but maybe they're super genetically engineered like Swarzenneeggar (sp?) in that Devito movie (Twins?) 


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:27 | 1240012 PY-129-20
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They all worship the great Cthulhu

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:27 | 1240030 Xibalba
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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:33 | 1240046 camaro68ss
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Just print more money bitchez!

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 20:25 | 1241320 Fish Gone Bad
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I can't believe I am going to have to educate the masses on what debauchery the rich do.  First the rich and nouveau riche have this thing for films with Nuns and donkeys.  Most of it is in Italian.  Secondly, there is a strong desire to own circus freaks, and midgets in particular.  Thirdly, then there is the drug thing.  Fourthly, there is the whole underage thing going on with mandrils.  Mandrils are pretty mean and can bite the heads off of parking meters, soooooo I am prone to believe that that might be made up.  Any questions?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 20:31 | 1241340 AccreditedEYE
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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:14 | 1241502 lincolnsteffens
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You're not the only one! LMAO again and again and again.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 03:00 | 1242177 Michael
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I just thank God there are 200 million+ firearms in the hands of ordinary citizens. Just let them try to steal our gold and silver from us this time.

Every government agent will be targeted for death if that happens this time around.


Thu, 05/05/2011 - 03:30 | 1242195 Michael
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Traffic Violations - Court Procedures - Part 1/2     Traffic Violations - Court Procedures - Part 2/2
Thu, 05/05/2011 - 04:52 | 1242229 Michael
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Stunad CNBC hostess dumbfounded by dollar crash talk.
Thu, 05/05/2011 - 06:52 | 1242286 fockewulf190
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"The Bernank" is truly mainstream jargon, as relected in the video.  How long until "Timmah" gets that status?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 20:35 | 1241367 Doña K
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You left out necrophilia. The Rothchilds also own a casket factory. You would love the interior decorations.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 02:40 | 1242161 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Red Bull gives you wings translates to Red Bull kills you.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:26 | 1241541 Troy Ounce
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Rotschild and Rabobank started a food speculation business in 2008:

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:35 | 1241911 DaveyJones
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post of the week award

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:21 | 1242320 geologyguy
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let it all burn

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:33 | 1240065 Re-Discovery
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Incredible reference.  I pride myself on knowing dumb stuff but had to google that one.  Why don't more people follow that . . . thing.  Sounds fun.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:59 | 1240192 dick cheneys ghost
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Those Rothschilds are still making are a few stories I got on them.........

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:00 | 1240204 disabledvet
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aren't they a yummy chocolate thing with caramel inside?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:21 | 1240321 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Just a small family business, a little wine, a little chocolate...

You can be sure that it is a going-concern now into its 3rd (4th?) century on the strength of some tasty candies...Yup, mmmmmm.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:24 | 1240354 disabledvet
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I'm serious.  "Uncommonly rich" was the tag line.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:41 | 1240424 TruthInSunshine
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I don't remember those commercials, but my peeps have confirmed it as true.

You have credibility with me.

(My peeps are people a little bit older who remember those commercials, too)


Those commercials would be banned today as unAmerican, unPatriotic and non-egalitarian, even though we have many  more insiders getting 'uncommonly rich' off of kleptocracy than we have at any point since the 20s (Robber Barons).

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:53 | 1240899 RockyRacoon
Wed, 05/04/2011 - 20:36 | 1241344 AccreditedEYE
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Indeed. They still press their advantage with or without Soros..  (Confused already posted my link... that'll teach

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:24 | 1241538 lincolnsteffens
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Yes, I remember those commercials. Never bought any. The commercials did notmake a lasting impression on me. Are they still for sale? Personally candy with the name "Lady Godiva" sounds much more yummy and lickable.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 22:40 | 1241800 juangrande
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The Robber Baron's abided in the time after the Civil War (ie. Vanderbilts, Morgans, etc.) The 20's ( actually more turn of the century)  were peopled by The Captains of Industry (ie. The Rockefellers, Fords, Carnegies, etc.) One of the reasons, we as a people, are so easily swayed by bullshit is the complete lack of historical knowledge. Mostly due to the incessantly boring classes we were forced to sit through. History is, however, fascinating even if a bit sketchy in facts.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:27 | 1241893 TruthInSunshine
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Fact: At one time, it was though that JP Morgan (the actual old man) was the wealthiest man in the world.

It was revealed during the PUBLIC reading of his will in Probate Court, that he was a mere  Lieutenant for the Rothschild Family, and that JP Morgan held a mere 19% of his own stock in the company he founded and ran his entire life (Rothschilds owned the majority of the shares).

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:18 | 1240713 magpie
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Spent some time researching various conspiracies, the lizard thingy etc, et voila, some days later i get a Rothschild Wine catalogue in the mailbox.

Go figure. Didn't order anything though. True Story.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:49 | 1241196 Coast Watcher
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Just their way of telling you your research didn't go unnoticed.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:09 | 1241865 TruthInSunshine
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+1 and a Rothschild cackle.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 20:51 | 1241421 1984
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Did the same thing.  Got Centurion Black Card invitation some time later.  Apparently they didn't know my annual income is peanuts compared to the minimum monthly spend requirement.  Or maybe they do know...

This is late 2008.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:23 | 1241887 dark pools of soros
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Here's their ad


Sanford was their biggest customer

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:55 | 1240556 1100-TACTICAL-12
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They cant come out in the daylight...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:28 | 1240773 thatthingcanfly
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They mostly come out at night. Mostly.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 00:21 | 1241875 TruthInSunshine
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This is true. They can only withstand somewhat limited exposure to the sun lest they peel and suffer hyperpigmentation.

They also are cold blooded, as are all reptiles, so they desperately want to soak up the sun, and they do, but - and this is critical - do so with proper cover (so they don't hyperpigmentate).

They also brumate, even when it's not that warm outside:


When it's cold outside and they need to warm up, they often bask in the sun to raise their body temperature. When it's too cold to even bask, reptiles may brumate.  This means they're in a hibernation-like state, but they may have periods of wakefulness and even drink when necessary.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:49 | 1241187 Aulieude
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South Park version is extremely funny (its also a reference to My Neighbour Totoro...)



panem et circenses

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:36 | 1241589 Robslob
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The greatest accomplishment a stealth power could ever achieve is...

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 00:20 | 1241992 Creepy Lurker
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To make everyone think it doesn't really exist, of course.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 04:23 | 1242217 Blue Vervain
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"dumb stuff"???


Beware, for none may mock the Old Ones with impunity.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:23 | 1240747 masterinchancery
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So the Colour From Space is green?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:32 | 1241120 nodoctor
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Unless my internet isn't working,

directs to The Rothschild, still international bankers -

"Rothschild has been at the centre of the world's financial markets for over 200 years. Today, it provides Global Financial Advisory, Corporate Banking and Private Banking & Trust services to governments, corporations and individuals worldwide. "

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:38 | 1241145 small watcher
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That is not broke which can eternal spend,
and with strange accounting even insolvency itself may end.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 22:31 | 1241772 snowball777
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<hat tip>

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:31 | 1241567 gaoptimize
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"Why choose the lesser evil?"  ;)  (Seen on a 2008 capaign bumper sticker)

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 22:32 | 1241767 Roy Bush
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Thu, 05/05/2011 - 06:34 | 1242272 Grimbaldus The ...
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"Yuggoth'hg ng'hlui ph'thaghua k'lorhn h'gnohma Ghoora. Plg'n n'hgua Fomalhaut - d'rgu krha'grua ph'kalgn."



("Yuggoth is one of the nicer planets in the Ghooric Zone. You should see Fomalhaut - now that's a shithole.")

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:37 | 1240042 TruthInSunshine
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Very, very good questions.

I think some are left (pretty sure). They lay low and try to fly under the radar. They have tentacles all over. If there is a Rothschild playing American Football, Mayer Amschel (if alive today) would strongly dissaprove, urging him to quit and to go and loanshark to governments, finance pointless wars (both sides), run guns, blood diamonds, drugs and teenage prostitutes, subvert democratic leaders and governments, and the like, instead.


*I think a Rothschildian Lizard family member saw my post and that of others here and tried to initiate a DOS attack on ZH.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:53 | 1240173 DoChenRollingBearing
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My wife met a Rothschild in London.

She was working as an au pair when she was young.  Just before she arrived to the house of the family she was staying with, an older guy walked by and smiled at her.  She turned her head away because she thought "what is this guy doing, trying to pick me up?"  She then went inside and told Mrs. D what happened.  The conversation went more or like this:

Mrs. D:  Oh, C, that was Mr. Rothschild, I hope you were nice to him...

C:  Who is Mr. Rothschild?

Mrs. D:  Why, he is one of the richest men in the world.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:59 | 1240182 TruthInSunshine
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I betchya' that guy that hit on your wife (before you married her) had the creepy, infamous Rothschild Lizard lips and sharp, pointy teeth.

They should do something about that, but surgery and dental procedures are hard on them...they being hemophiliacs with reptile blood and all...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:17 | 1240690 Upswaller
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So what's the story, everyone who mentions Rothschild gets junked?  Let's see....... tapping foot.....

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:26 | 1241556 itsbroken
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who could resist an opening like that?

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 00:45 | 1242035 slewie the pi-rat
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did the wife in question of the do_chenRB mention that the guy was drinking a pina colada @ trader vic's?  that his hair was perfect?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:34 | 1241577 lincolnsteffens
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What?? Can't you read. He said the guy SMILED at her and SHE thought he MIGHT be making a pass! I guess we know how your glasses color the world. You might want to take those lenses off once in a while.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:29 | 1241799 TruthInSunshine
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You don't know how they operate. They don't come bearing knives. They come bearing smiles.

It all ends the same.

Cold, heartless reptilian people...


I did not junk you.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:01 | 1240211 disabledvet
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you ate the last one, didn't you?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:34 | 1240054 tmosley
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There are still real Rothschilds, though they are as you imagined, much debauched from their former heights of glory.  Their money remains, though, and they have plenty of super evil non-debauched henchmen to keep it.


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:02 | 1240218 disabledvet
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i've been feeling a little "super-evil non-debauched" myself lately.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:18 | 1241057 firefighter302
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Me too.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:27 | 1241100 tired1
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In the spirit of Earth Day 2011, David de Rothschild – Plastiki Expedition Leader – joined Sam Champion on ABC’s Good Morning America to discuss the plight of plastics in the oceans, in particular how 3 billion bottles are used and thrown away each year. David offered some helpful tips on how everyone can do their bit for the environment, such as not using plastic bags to carry our shopping,


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:24 | 1241894 Tapeworm
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The plastiki crusaders come on the TnV and harangue honkies about recycling.

 Spare me. The minorities are the ones that throw all of their plastic bags into the streets and their rental agents' backyards so that when the next breeze hits all of the city core trees are festooned with Mexican tree decorations. As a small manufacturer I am always ragging the employees to be sure to never pollute my property with petroleum products. I have kicked some out of my parking lot for having leaking drivetrains on their rides.

 Then all of a sudden the next door neighbor latino dumps their drain oil on some dandelions that are on the fence line. Perhaps some prosecution for this filthy behavior is in order. My complaints to the city maggots and the state Department of Natural Resources have gotten me nothing but hints that I will be fined into oblivion for what gets dumped on my property. No. I cannot grow any flowers along my fenceline. The idiot peons have ruined the soil. I dug out their polluted soil and replaced it a few years ago. Now all of that is ruined too.

 The city and the DNR refused to even come near here to have a whiff of the benzine derivatives that the local NAACP head guy was dumping into the sewers from his factory. Actually the city guy had to come because I was so insistent. He couldn't smell the overpowering aroma of toluol coming from the sub street sewer, so he told me I am nuts.

 Yeah, honkies are the problem.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 05:28 | 1242247 Bitch Tits
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The Rothschilds, a family of German Jews.

Just curious, but if the Rothschilds run the world and finance wars and always have, etc. . . .. what was the Holocaust all about? You don't eat your young, do you?

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:50 | 1243833 TruthInSunshine
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They would and do if there's extreme profit in it, since extreme profit is a god for them.

They financed Hitler, knowing full well what his aspirations and methods were, and knowing the Allies would make good on the debt Germany racked up.

But I'm sure that's just wacky conspiracy talk. /sarc

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:37 | 1240075 bank buster
Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:53 | 1240116 Re-Discovery
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After reading all that, I will conclude that certainly could kick their ass if I was faced to face with one. (I hope that didn't just land me on the enemies list.)

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:06 | 1240252 tmosley
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Yeah, and I thought it would be easy to kill a little wussy looking emo kid like Hitler, until I got to him and found this:

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:21 | 1240341 Re-Discovery
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Damn, I'll have to buy "Rothschilds: The Conspiracy" for XBOX and practice before I go head 2 head with one.  Thanks for the heads up.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:43 | 1240474 LFMayor
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LOL!  +1 for old school.
you know how many hours I pissed away on that game...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:07 | 1240256 aerojet
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Maybe some DEVGRU SEALs could go rogue and do a few more double-tap headshots wetwork for us all.  I can furnish a good starting list.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:34 | 1240411 serotonindumptruck
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I recommend the "Mozambique Technique" for the lizard people.

Two to the upper torso, one to the head.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:33 | 1241904 Thunder_Downunder
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Welcome to the no fly list lol!

Prior to rejection, you're entitled to a free shakedown and rectal exam with each attempt at boarding an aircraft.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:38 | 1240086 -Michelle-
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There's plenty of them.  Lynn Forester de Rothschild was a prominent Hilary Clinton supporter.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:48 | 1240122 Re-Discovery
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Man, they really MUST be evil incarnate.  (Why didn't she win then?  Probably backed Obama and McCain too those bastards!)

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:33 | 1240385 NotApplicable
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No doubt they backed them all. Once they saw who could sell the most Hopium though, it was curtains for all but The One.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:47 | 1240138 goldenrod
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And the absolutely hilarious thing is that during the campaign she (Rothschild) accused Obama of being an "elitist".


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:16 | 1240227 TruthInSunshine
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Only the Rothschild Empire can make an English Cracker worthy of the Royal Family (I might vomit now):

The Money Masters - Full
Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:47 | 1240144 Confused
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It would seem there are some left. Openly that is. 

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:09 | 1240255 TruthInSunshine
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There is a Rothschildian junker running amok.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:10 | 1240281 useless_fact
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Rothschild was a chocolate candy that was chewy like caramel. In the commercial the character would always say, "Not now, I'm right in the middle of a Rothschild" good stuff...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:50 | 1241201 Aulieude
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The modern equivalent being "Not now, I'm spending a night in Paris..."


panem et circenses

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:32 | 1240382 t0mmyBerg
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Thats funny.  I spoke with one of them just last week for an hour in London.  Very nice and reasonably smart.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 22:42 | 1241806 TruthInSunshine
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Did you check to see if you still had your wallet once pleasantries were exchanged?

Mayer Amschel was reportedly a compulsive kleptomaniac, even after amassing what was a fortune greater than any king of the day, and he would routinely beat young children and steal whatever valuables they possessed even into his old age.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:31 | 1240388 cossack55
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There was a thread I stumbled across a couple of months ago called Photos of Evil or something that had pics of the old money scumbags.  I'm not really a conspiracy type as I don't have the time, but I have to say they were actually pretty evil looking. That Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands was wearing a gold necklace with a huge figure of satan hanging on it. Pretty weird.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:21 | 1240718 High Plains Drifter
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yes there are. they are inbred freaks.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 20:03 | 1241210 Axenolith
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Didn't one of them allegedly hang himself "accidentally" while being made to look like he was pleasuring himself a few years back?  IIRC, Was he edging out of the "family paradigm" coincidentally at the time...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:53 | 1241215 Jumbie
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Apparently, and still banking, Bilderbergering, and endorsing politicians.

third generation heirs, Lionel, Mayer, Anthony and Nathaniel in London, Alphonse in Paris, Anselm in Vienna and Mayer Carl in Frankfurt furthered the Rothschild legacy, each branch in its own sphere of influence and more important, all branches combined as a transnational power.

"In an October 5th interview conducted by Lloyd Grove of Portfolio magazine, Lynn Forester de Rothschild, wife of Sir Evelyn Rothschild, openly proclaimed support for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign ... 'First of all, Hillary will be good for America. And so if we care about our country —which all of my fellow capitalists do —we'll be very pleased that she's president'."


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 20:33 | 1241345 msamour
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Actually no word of a lie, they have a winery in Argentina, and they make wickedly good red wine. I had few bottles, and I have to say, evil bankers, but darn the wine is good.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:32 | 1241814 TruthInSunshine
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It wasn't 'wine,' no matter how good you thought it tasted.

It was undoubtedly some concoction full of very insidious chemicals, derived from some strategic partnership with Monsanto, Gillead, Dupont and Abbott Labs, and you were being experimented on.

Seek medical attention. Pay the doctor in cash. Make sure he/she is competent. Give them 50% cash down for a full blood panel work up, and tell them if they keep their mouth shut, they will get the other 50% when the test results come in.

Do NOT run any charges through your health insurer, and threaten the doctor that if he/she includes the specifics or the name 'Rothschild' in their medical report, you will kill him/her. Finally, make sure that you get the originals of all medical records from the doctor and that he/she keeps NO copies nor divulges any information to his/her staff WHATSOEVER.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 22:38 | 1241794 Ham Wallet
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NY Yankee pitching coaches name is Larry Rothschild. 


And we'll chalk up him coaching for the "evil empire" as just a coincidence. ; )

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:07 | 1241850 holdbuysell
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"I've always wondered, are there any Rothschilds left?"

There was a Bilderberger documentary done recently that interviewed one of the twenty-ish Rothschilds.

He came across as arrogant (expected in such a documentary) and didn't have a basic understanding of the planets in our Milky Way.

Alarming in the least.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 23:11 | 1241861 zman78
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I think there is something to it, a friend of mine knows an A Rothschild in London and has twice recieved good calls.  Whether this person is a part of the dynasty I was told so but can't confirm.  The first call was in spring of 08 stating that there will be an 'event' in the fall, nailed that one.  The second more recent 'prediction' was that silver was going to $45/oz this was several months ago when it was around $20.  Obviously this remains to be seen if this marks an interm top in silver, so far its pretty close.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 01:24 | 1242086 Dexter Morgan
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I thought I was the only person who thought of stuff like that!

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:37 | 1240415 Pseudo Anonym
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Ask the Rothschilds.

and then the rothschilds' would refer you to Vatican if you were looking for your mortgage note:

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 03:29 | 1242192 Re-Discovery
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So to wrap everything up then

On the good side:

They make good wine and candy, and occasionally give good stock tips.  Oh yeah, and they recycle.

On the bad side:

They secretly crash people's computers.  Steal from little kids. Support loser candidates for dubious reasons.  Look like lizards and worship one (and possibly actually ARE lizards.)  Hit on people's wives (or give them unwanted smiles.)  Own a lot of shit that screws everybody else out of money, including the Fed and the old JP Morgue.  Raise abnoxious 20 year olds who don't know astronomy.  Have sex with dead bodies.  Practice auto-erotic asphyxiation (possibly put this in the 'good' category although I've never tried it.)  Sleep all day and sneak around at night.  Buy stuff, and generally just mess with people.  Don't like football.  Bad at coaching pitching (except Rivera.)  

Am I leaving anything out?  Thanks, I think I have the full picture now.

What was that Vatican thing again?  (Just kidding, I can only fully digest one inter-generational world conspiracy per night.) 



Thu, 05/05/2011 - 04:12 | 1242209 jeff montanye
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thanks for the recap.  it clarifies the coming u.s. debt contretemps nicely.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:41 | 1241602 In Fed We Trust
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God damn terrorist.

Living in a posh dowtown loft,

while all along we thought he was in a cave



up in the hills!

Poor intelligence on the CIA, or ........




Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:13 | 1239955 GrouchoNotKarl
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*I have always wondered about this my self.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:17 | 1239959 SheepDog-One
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The politicians LOVE it because the KICKBACKS are spectacular! Thats congress base pay, + $2 mill or so yearly under the table from the bankster overlords. Thats why a strict neck stretching policy must be applied to anyone talking about allowing in a central bank.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:19 | 1239971 Fake Jim Quinn
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More on that excellent thought...if you have the time

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:08 | 1240992 The Rock
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Good stuff, thanks.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:10 | 1241007 augie
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thats the same guy that did the "money changers"


Thanks for the vid. I'll watch this over the weekend.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:25 | 1239992 Non Passaran
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>*why does a sovereign country borrow its own currency - at interest - from private banks and corporations?

I don't see a problem with that. Otherwise they'd borrow even more.

And why should the government be able to borrow at no interest while citizens cannot?


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:32 | 1240060 DosZap
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And why should the government be able to borrow at no interest while citizens cannot?


Simple, because a Soverign would only owe itself,citizens, and is it not assinine to print currency/coinage, assign a value to it, and pay someone else the face values of same, and interest on same(that which cost them nothing?).

When YOU could do the same and pay neither,or at least pay interest to YOURSELF & citizens?.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:29 | 1240299 Dr. Acula
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>When YOU could do the same and pay neither,or at least pay interest to YOURSELF & citizens?.

You seem to be confused. You see, the government is a bureaucracy.

Although the government commits crimes like counterfeiting, theft, and contractual enslavement of the unborn, there's neither incentive nor possibility for them to be efficient at what they do.

To be efficient is to be tempered by market disciplines, which means participating in the market and hence not aggressing against other market participants in the first place.


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:32 | 1241121 iinthesky
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Regardless, borrowing money which is not money at interest creates a never ending debt spiral and creates hidden so called legal issues such as hypothecation of all property to a private entity known as the Federal Reserve System, also a corporation of unknown ownership or a Joint Stock Trust which is outlawed. Its just plain dumb and so obvious you have to be blind to miss it.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:22 | 1239993 GoldenDragon
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Well, that's the $14 trillion question, isn't it?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:30 | 1240026 DosZap
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Simple, because when this happens,the Country is no longer Sovereign.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:08 | 1240228 CoolClo
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"why does a sovereign country borrow its own currency - at interest - from private banks and corporations?"


The U.S. Corporation could borrow in its own currency if it issued some (remember Silver Certificates issued back in the JFK days;  executive order #11110). Currently it uses PRIVATE Federal Reserve Notes issued by a PRIVATE Federal Reserve System; a debt based instrument.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:29 | 1240298 TruthInSunshine
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And Kennedy was executed by a lone wolf gunman, who was then killed by a weeping like a girl mobster....

Secrets of American History - Timeline of Assassinations



Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:17 | 1240308 aerojet
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Before you go off into some wild conspiracy theory about all this, it seems to me that those changes were done to avoid a default and they are like today's accounting gimmicks for the big banks--a separation from reality.  The downside is that regular people get hurt, the upside is that they can run a welfare state with massive debts while banking industry executives live like old world kings.  It's an "us vs. them" system is all it really is.  We could fix it, but not without bloodshed because them that has ain't giving it up and there are plenty of soldiers and cops willing to put a bullet or two in your noggin if you step out of line.


It does make me think that Kennedy was a true hero and was killed for trying to stop the Federal Reserve.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:28 | 1240363 TruthInSunshine
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I will grant you the point about Kennedy, and that there really was not a move to go to PM backed money or anything...

...the other dead presidents who opposed the central bank, however, I'm going with 'definitely Rothschildian Hits for $2000,' Alex.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:41 | 1240435 Dr. Acula
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Andrew Jackson successfully shut down the The Second Bank of the United States (our second central bank; the Fed is now our third).

Before the bank failed, the bank's head, named Biddle, tried to punish Jackson by monkeying with the money supply and causing a temporary recession. Fortunately, we can be confident that the esteemed pseudoscientists at the Fed would never stoop to such lows.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:49 | 1240530 LFMayor
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and when both pistols misfired during the assasination attempt, Andy had to be restrained in order to conclude the cane beating he was administering to the perp.  Who was man enough to pull Old Hickory away from his recreation?  Only Davy Fn Crockett was man enough to do it, and he had help to boot.

Communications being slow at the time, do you think there simply wasn't enough reaction time left to set up another hit?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:39 | 1240442 NotApplicable
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Meanwhile, Reagan was just a placeholder for bankster boy Pappy Bush, except Hinckley failed, unlike Leon Czolgosz, who put bankster boy Teddy Roosevelt into office.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 21:03 | 1241472 zhandax
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You mean Franklin; Teddy was the last president before Wilson sold us out to those thieves in 1913.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 00:12 | 1241983 WmMcK
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No, he means my assassin -- google it.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 02:01 | 1242129 zhandax
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I know who capped you.  I meant Franklin was the banksters' boy; Teddy was the one who busted up Rockefeller's Standard Oil and JP Morgan' railroad trust.  He also objected to our 'plain' looking gold coins and commissioned Augustus St. Gaudens to design a new series including the St. Gaudens double eagle.  The obverse of today's gold eagle is essentially that same design.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:25 | 1240362 macholatte
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Is THIS the Exit Strategy?


BB said he could avoid "losing" money on purchases of UST by simply holding to maturity. OK. That makes sense. Does this:


For the sake of this illustration we say that total US Debt is $15T and that the Fed has purchased $10T of said debt. The Fed is the banker to the US Treasury. It simply makes a bookkeeping entry and suddenly the Treasury is flush with "cash".  The Fed is not allowed to make a profit. All of its upside goes to the Treasury. Interest on monetized debt goes back to the Treasury.


If the Fed "owns" $10T of US debt and the Treasury simply decides to default on only that debt, then it can wipe those books clean. Like a husband writing off the money spent by his wife on lunches and presents for her mother. It was created from thin air and gets wiped out the same way. The taxpayer is held harmless, China gets "value" for its UST's as does everyone else. The illusion is ended and the dollar becomes strong again.


Just asking the questions. Does this scenario make sense? What are the odds of it happening? Is it a good thing?


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:44 | 1240485 css1971
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Another dream; The transition from a fractional reserver monetary system to a full reserve one:

That's commie talk though.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 06:30 | 1242268 ViewfromUnderth...
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I have no idea of the odds of that happening...but, should it happen I am certain of the odds of it happening again.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:33 | 1240801 bothsidesnow
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Because it's a corporation that's why it operates in the District of Columbia.

Corporation borrowing from corporation.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:57 | 1240916 HowardBeale
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Yeah. That is thee question. Better yet, which of you Zeroheads know how to cull the information to answer this question: What would the national debt be if the U.S. hadn't been paying "Federal" Reserve cut on those bankster-issued FRNs? Could congress have wildly spent even more (than what was given away) by having had issuance control--as if they don't;)--than that which was, in fact, given the 1913 bankster cartel-issuers?


In a nutshel? How much of the national debt has been given to the crooks at the "Federal" Reserve since they started sacking America?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:56 | 1241220 mt paul
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they can't dance...

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 20:34 | 1241351 Smiley
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Because it patriotic to pay taxes


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 20:43 | 1241385 lesterbegood
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Because the 'sovereign country', itself a corporation is owned by the banking corporations (Fed, IMF, World Bank)

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 01:10 | 1242065 Sam Christie
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Bought politicians? Just a guess.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:10 | 1239940 Global Hunter
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Leave it to a poster on zerohedge to tell these amateurs running the United States how you do it.  Here's how you play the hand they've been dealt: Declare a Pakistani no fly zone and force congress to raise the debt limit on patriotic and national security grounds.  Sheesh how hard was that?

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:22 | 1239985 bluestaq
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@Global Hunter you hit the nail on the head.  OBL death was a move on the chess board of the body politic..nothing more.  Was funny that they saved it 'til 8 hours before open of the first trading day of the month.  Ringin' that register!

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:11 | 1239943 SWCroaker
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It's just a legal limit.   So going over it is like, you know, breaking a law.  And if they do that then the regulators will be down on them like....   the regulators will show up and.....    the regulators will....., aw, forget it.

Somebody will pay a $10 fine in a rapid settlement and it will never make it into the major news feeds.

<I surrender>

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:37 | 1240073 Hansel
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+1, they go over the limit illegally and then what?  Nothing.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:02 | 1240197 Jeff Lebowski
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Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:26 | 1240369 lolmao500
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And then Bondzilla shows up and the can of whoop ass is opened.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:43 | 1240480 NotApplicable
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Forcing Moody's to finally lower the fedgov's credit rating to Aa1.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:06 | 1240640 1100-TACTICAL-12
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I dont understand why they would lower the rating, there is no bondzilla the Bernak killed it.....

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:28 | 1240770 Hansel
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I agree bondzilla is dead.  Bernank killed it with the infinite ammo cheat code.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:09 | 1240976 hedgeless_horseman
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Woolly Mammoth, Saber Tooth Tiger, Dodo Bird, and Bond Vigilante are more than dead, they are extinct.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:34 | 1240793 Hansel
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I think Goldzirra is a more likely foe than Bondzilla.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:11 | 1239945 legal eagle
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Tyler, so how many hours until they slam the PM markets again, at 6-7 right?   Down to 33?

Day three....?


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:16 | 1239956 Cognitive Dissonance
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6:30 PM EDT is zero hour.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:23 | 1240730 High Plains Drifter
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ladies and gentlemen, may i ask you, please back up the truck on this one.....pretty please.  you won't regret it one bit......

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 18:35 | 1240810 bothsidesnow
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Salm up tonight by about a buck fitty. 

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 19:32 | 1241124 firefighter302
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I'm with ya, my friend.  I'm grabbed a few rolls of Eagles today.


Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:12 | 1239946 Yen Cross
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36.80- 34.25 a good daily runs through @ 32. XAG

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:12 | 1239951 SoNH80
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They should just up the limit to $1 quadrillion, that's what they plan on doing anyway.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 16:24 | 1239954 rokakoma
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Somebody please explain me, how will they issue $72B next week, opposed with ZERO maturing debt?

On thursday $17B more expires than issued, along with the picture above it will be still just $31 below the limit.

Next week $100B bills mature, meaning they cannot issue more than $59B bills next week, to be able to issue the notes.

That would be actually the lowest bill auction for a very long time...

Treasury is basically changing bills to notes, but i guess this is the last week they can issue both.

Wed, 05/04/2011 - 17:39 | 1240426 JLee2027
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Second grade math skills tell me it's impossible, but these people are weasels. I'm sure they've already gimmicked something to get around everything.

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