Global Trade Collapsing, China Now Japan's Top Trade Partner

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Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:33 | 42884 Project Mayhem
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Yeah so we have global economic collapse basically... Seven months into the year -- 31.9% drop in imports, 36.8% drop in exports, and 43.5% drop in exports to the U.S. counts as collapse in my book.


Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:38 | 42888 Sqworl
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OMG...the sky is falling...;-(

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:42 | 42890 Project Mayhem
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more cowbell!

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:45 | 42895 SloSquez
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On that note I'm buying 10,000 shares of DRYS in the morning.  Goin to fly, I guess.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 01:25 | 43035 D.O.D.
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If anyone is interested I went long SP500 via UPRO today, that should be the surest signal this thing is goin' down... just fyi....don't say I didn't tell you...

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 01:57 | 43040 AndItsGone
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I went short via SPXU, just as powerful a bullish signal. Clearly, the S&P will now go exactly flat forever, resulting in the slow depreciation of both our investments to fees and expenses.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:23 | 42938 Anonymous
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Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:50 | 42981 ng2amarinefunk (not verified)
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yeh, great 'tradeable' information, for me to know that THEY, the 99/100 now know - the critical mass has been achieved,

and faster than you can say 1987 program trading, i think maybe August 21 2009 Friday will come down as the greatest Magician Show in History - the 'trickster' RAVEN, massed for the last couple of days 'in conference' -

how to do the 'final fleecing' of Joe Six Pack and his Metastock on the laptop, trying to beat out Goldmans neuronet - a day in history that Grandpa will tell his children in the year 2o45

its NOT the facts,

its the Perception of the facts, is God in the Oxford University Quad, perceiving and conceiving, creating the RealMoment, the Existential Reality?

Is not Berkeley the Red schoolhouse?,but everyone KNOWS THAT! really? really so, eh?

the old Bishops Solipsism ?  Shall we NOW see something NOBODY can even remember this day in history - or shall it be another banal nothing happening sort of day?

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 03:18 | 43061 Anonymous
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You are not one of us, your comments make no sense. I do not believe you are crazy, I just believe you are either a robot or trying to discredit this blog or both.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:38 | 43344 Anonymous
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They do make sense, you just have to think a little to understand them. Did it occured to you that not everybody in this world is a native english speaker, maybe.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:14 | 43315 Anonymous
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Denise, this is your producer. I'm waiting........ Swallow you bitch. Good, now get on the table..... Good. Now shut the fuck up while I,...I....Oh yeah. You know you're getting a little loose there, we're going to have to take you back to the doc and put in a few more honeymoon stitches.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:38 | 42887 I need more cowbell
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Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:43 | 42891 MountainHawk
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When is the stock market going to get hammered again? Everyday, it goes up defying all odds.... any guesses to when we might see some 'serious' pull-back...

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:46 | 42897 Pizza Delivery Man
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Somepoint between now and the future.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:49 | 42901 Printfaster
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During the Thanksgiving day after hours market in Bhutan.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:51 | 42903 SloSquez
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Now that's precision.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:53 | 42904 Gilgamesh
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Between 4pm and 6am ET, usually Sun-Thurs.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 00:26 | 43012 TumblingDice
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When China appreceites the yuan.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:43 | 42892 peoplesdemocrat...
peoplesdemocraticsocialistrepublicofmaryland's picture green shoots there......


Thx TD!

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 21:45 | 42893 Anonymous
Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:01 | 42912 waterdog
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Is it true that Mr. Durden was on the radio today?

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:15 | 42930 Mannwich
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Yes, I listened to Tyler's long interview with Pimm Fox on Bloomberg radio.  Couldn't believe they gave you so much air time.  Good stuff.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 14:10 | 43707 phaesed
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Does anyone have a link to a copy of the recording?

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:04 | 42913 Anonymous
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TD, I need to piggy back off Mountainhawk in a way. I am also bearish and have been getting hammered being short, still short, and will be. But you haven't forecasted time frame in which we can see the ultimate collapse and debacle. All the charts and indicators you are throwing up every five minutes show that the end is near and that the monetization will come to a certain skidding hault. Don't be misunderstood I am not seeking your stock advice, I am short and will continue to be....your input is appreciated.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:06 | 42915 Anonymous
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So ....I'll be the first to say it....



GS commodity desk ready to take oil parabolic tomorrow....

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 07:31 | 43120 Anonymous
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think you mean "hit the OFFER" (or ask)

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:08 | 42918 Commissionable
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TD, piggy back on Mountain Hawk here, when is this collapse in the US Market coming, China dropped 3.7% and we closed up for the day, all the charts you post pose a debacle of monumental sizes and yet 10,000 dow here we come? Being as Bearish as I am, I don't see the catalyst which will bring the runnaway train to a screaming hault or even right off the tracks. Whats your forecast, again im short and staying short......the pain is not even an issue now, forget stop the bleeding..its way beyond that.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:36 | 42973 ng2amarinefunk (not verified)
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ANOTHER FOLLOWER, 'please tell me' best YOU avoid 'trading' in the market, and go back to your job-site, thank you, keep cranking out the canned goods, and stuff PLEASE

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 00:18 | 43002 Anonymous
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I think you should focus on posting intelligent stuff on this site and not your bullshit theories and rants. Tone it down a little bit man you are just degrading this site. I've been reading Zero Hedge since January and the comments section used to yield a great amount of information from unbiased people. Your complaining seems retarded to say the least and I'd appreciate it if you took your rants elsewhere, pal.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 10:01 | 43213 dnarby
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I agree in asking the rhetoric be turned down.  More signal, less noise.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 07:35 | 43123 I need more cowbell
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At least get a better avatar. I'll let you in on a little secret, being a geek is really not cool, we still make fun of you behind your back. Your face is scaring the children, dude.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:18 | 42934 Dr Hackenbush
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Talk about the 'light-rail' laying its own track. 

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:22 | 42937 lsbumblebee
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Don't worry. The U.S. still has nuclear armaments and helicopters that crash to keep the free markets safe from democracy.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:54 | 42985 ng2amarinefunk (not verified)
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Yes, indeed, we do more than the entire rest of the World combined - AND THAT SIRE is the REASON why the USA dollar shall prevail, just in case good common sense does not

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 06:34 | 43099 ratava
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lol, you are my fav troll

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:25 | 42939 Anonymous
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Do not let your emotions overtake your rational investment decisions. China's growth is not a bubble folks. There are decades of pent up domestic demand growth yet to play out.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 10:03 | 43215 dnarby
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Pray tell what is the analysis you have that contradicts what I'm reading.

'Cause what I'm reading that says "China stimulus went into stock market" is really, really f*ckin' good, man.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:27 | 42942 Anonymous
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I have substantially invested in credit default swaps on Schrödinger's cat. Everyone, please, do not look in the box.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:48 | 42950 Anonymous
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Green shoots are piling up at the ports waiting to be shipped. Saw it on CNBS...

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:01 | 42955 buzzsaw99
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It can't get any worse. Green shoots of bamboo everywhere. Green shoots!

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:02 | 42956 ghostfaceinvestah
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Trade is meaningless in the New New Economy.

Trading is all that matters.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:09 | 42961 Anonymous
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Fri, 08/21/2009 - 00:00 | 42990 ng2amarinefunk (not verified)
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'trading stocks' without World Trade ain't feasible,

fortunately World Trade will continue, chasened a bit, but the better for it, and 'Trading Stocks' will, too, continue -

the smart money will continue to fleece the dumb money, EVEN IF THE PLAYING TABLE WERE LEVEL,

there's really SOME people who just shouldn't be 'trading stocks' at all, they just don't get it, won't get it and will wash out totally, very very soon

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:04 | 42957 chindit13
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Question: When will the market collapse?

Answer: When things are so bad that no exchange nor institution will be able to pay off any still-existing shorts.

Doesn't seem fair, but that's the way it is.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:06 | 42959 poydras
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This June data has been out for a while.  We (USA) are the world's trade patsies.  I find the Japan trade data most interesting.   Conditions have improved, but are way off peaks.

I suspect the world will help us out to some extent.  That extent involving a noticeable decline in our standard of living.  No Virginia, you can't keep on borrowing.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:13 | 42962 Anonymous
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Just heard a decidedly non-green shoot on CNN International:

9.2% of all US mortgages are 30 days or more behind, and 13% of all homeowners are termed "in trouble" on their mortgage. This excludes the millions already foreclosed upon.

The only way there is any "bottom" in this data is that perhaps homeowners will be using their mortgage notes instead of Charmin.

Somehow---I am not clever enough to determine the convoluted illogic---this has to be wildly bullish for BAC and C and WFC, so I expect another 8% up day for the likes of C.

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:21 | 42964 Anonymous
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Trade collapsing? Now that the S&P500 has reached 1000, Kotok and others are talking about it regaining the "Lehman Gap" and reaching 1200, possibly as soon as October.


I'm glad I'm sitting this thing out in cash. If I had massively shorted this thing like I wanted to, I'd be having my arse handed to me by the green-shoot smoking crowd.

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 09:27 | 43185 gmrpeabody
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Amen brother!

Fri, 08/21/2009 - 13:06 | 43261 acrneer (not verified)
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Another interesting day in bizarro world. Must kill dollar, must prop markets

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Thu, 08/20/2009 - 23:22 | 42966 Anonymous
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Trade collapsing? Now that the S&P500 has reached 1000, Kotok and others are talking about it regaining the "Lehman Gap" and reaching 1200, possibly as soon as October.


I'm glad I'm sitting this thing out in cash. If I had massively shorted this thing like I wanted to, I'd be having my arse handed to me by the green-shoot smoking crowd.

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