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Gold Breakout Refuses To Stop As Imminent Fed QE 2 Expected To Confirm Double Dip Deteriorating

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We apologize for pointing out the inevitable, but gold is now breaking out and the usual LBMA gimmicks to slam it down are no longer working. Is the price suppression regime over? And that worthless atavism of a bygone era, stocks, continue to surge on increasingly bad news, confirming that all trading is now driven on expectations of what the Fed will do next Tuesday. If Morgan Stanley is right, expect gold to hit $1,350 in under 7 days. Additionally, should this occur, it will merely confirm that the double dip is accelerating at an uncontrollable pace, and that without the Fed's intervention the economy will tumble. Time to end all this "is there or isn't there" a double dip bullshit already.

And here is Nic Lenoir with his take on QE. We believe the catalyst was not some Goldman announcement as widely misrepresented by the WSJ blog, as this has been the case for a long time, but the MS expectation of QE next week.

The market is aggressively pricing up everything that is USD denominated today. This maket has the sweet scent of quantitative easing. Equities have reversed their overnight / early mornign weakness, US Treasuries are up, and the dollar index is getting pummeled, while gold is accordingly screaming higher.

A few things to point regarding the Dollar Index: the 61.8% and 76.4% retracement since the lows of August 6th are at 81.41 and 80.86 respectively, and the C=A from the local highs at 83.56 stands at 81.26. Therefore we have reached a patch of support here which will be crucial to determine the future direction for the USD. The acceleration lower today could be in part due to a short-term H&S pattern which neckline was sitting at 81.91.

GS is out today claiming the Fed will announce the next round of asset purchases in November, and there is the FOMC next week. So clearly people are getting ready for the free money bonanza. Tough luck for USDJPY which I was myself a proponent of buying as between the results of the Japanese election and the market pricing in Quantiative 2.0, we have expectations of tighter monetary conditions in Japan and looser conditions in the US being priced in. When it comes to the beggar's game, people expect the Fed to show absolutely no shame.

Let's watch the dollar index closely because it will hold the key to all markets... as always USD liquidity is key to the world and is the number 1 driver of all asset prices. Until next Tuesday however it seems premaure to pre-empt. Maybe someone knows something I don't!

 

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Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:50 | 581497 buzlightening
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You live in the concrete jungle of city savages, you need body bags; not mres!!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 16:34 | 581636 VWbug
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ahh I have a guilty confession to make, you guys actually made me laugh before i remembered you are all preparing to murder your neighbours.

i too wish it were fiction, but you really are getting ready to do it huh?

 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 20:38 | 582116 RockyRacoon
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... murder your neighbours.

I believe that's called self defense.  There is an important difference.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 08:15 | 582851 VWbug
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but your neighbours don't have guns?

and apparently in your fantasy they are starving?

So shoot 'em and take their stuff is what you're all about is it?

As you macho guys like to say, as if you're in some bad hollywood flick, 'it's how you roll?'

 

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 13:51 | 583543 RockyRacoon
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Get back in that cage!  No.  That is not the objective.  It is merely to preserve one's own life and family.   If someone proposed looting his own neighborhood then I'm not in his camp.  Your characterization of murder would be correct.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:59 | 581227 FrankIvy
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Shotgun - Pistol grip, 12 guage, accepts 3" magnums or shorter rounds.  I highly recommend the Mossberg Cruiser (pistol grip and heat shield).

Buy 00 buckshot - I'd suggest standard length - be careful with the 3" mags, they kick like a banker paying out a dime of bank money for a bank error.

Regarding gold - I never recommend putting all eggs in one basket - but, other than gov. intervention, it's hard to see how Au is anything other than a great bet.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:22 | 581286 Pining for the ...
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ZeroHedge:  Come for the financial analysis, stay for the weapons chat.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:51 | 581367 Slartebartfast
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LOL

+10

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:54 | 581379 Slartebartfast
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Not my recommendation.  Pistol grips look cool and all but have you ever tried to smoothly shoulder and fire a shotgun with a pistol grip?  Not really possible.  Consider that your shotgun should be useful for hunting birds as well as two legged tree rats.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:57 | 581386 traderjoe
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I picked a semi-auto that I could also take to the range for skeet, etc. Fun way to practice. 

Get silver coins first, imho, as you will be able to use them in barter more likely (smaller denominations). 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 17:59 | 581810 Hulk
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Don't mess around lynnbee,

http://www.barrett.net/firearms/model82a1

My Grandmas got one!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:28 | 581056 bada boom
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"We believe the catalyst was not some Goldman announcement as widely misrepresented by the WSJ blog, as this has been the case for a long time, but the MS expectation of QE next week."

Can't it be both?

To add, Gold and USD volume had dramatic increases at approx 9:50 and 10:20.

The WSJ blog article was released 10:10.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:50 | 581204 Treeplanter
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Harvey Organ has been reporting every day more supply problems at Comex.   Customers are getting high premiums to accept delayed delivery.  Especially in silver.  One of these days it's a massive short squeeze and a moonshot for silver.  We are lulled by the cartel smack downs thinking it won't happen until some future crisis.  The supply crisis is here already.  All the other factors will soon pale into irrelevance. 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:05 | 581407 Slartebartfast
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I agree.  Silver separated from gold about three or four weeks ago.  They used to track identical.  I've been suspicious ever since that the only possible reason for the separation could be that the physical stocks ran dry.  There is still quite a bit of silver in the supply chain, but as that is delivered out the price will continue to move up independently until there just is no more.  Then watch for the "scandal", and the "Shocked!  I'm so shocked!", interviews on CNBC accompanied by silver moving up $20 a day as the true market price expresses itself.  Gold will follow silver out the gate as all confidence in "the system", is lost.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:12 | 581068 Temporalist
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I love it Bloomberg just had some shmoe on that said gold is finding resistance at record highs. 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:13 | 581077 Turd Ferguson
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Classic. What a buffoon. If you have nothing to say, keep your mouth shut.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:21 | 581110 jmac2013
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Do you know who said it, so that I can ignore their analysis in the future?

 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:24 | 581114 jmac2013
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comment directed @ Temporalist

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:32 | 581151 Temporalist
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No I was half paying attention but Mark Crumpton was the interviewer it was only a couple of minutes not a big segment.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:25 | 581119 Silversinner
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Johny,were sorry.why don't you come back home.we worry

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:32 | 581311 EscapeKey
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Good thing, where have you gone, doo doo doobie doo

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 16:48 | 581673 Hephasteus
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He's at the smartest trader on zerohedge awards show. Vanity Fair will be talking about his dress for a week.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:26 | 581121 Id fight Gandhi
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WTF is up with euro today over 1.30

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:28 | 581131 Azannoth
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1.3 or 3.1 is meaningless its all just paper-to-paper

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:52 | 581211 Treeplanter
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Yankee dolla got problem.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 16:13 | 581575 PhattyBuoy
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Bangladesh buys 10 tons of IMF gold ...

Dollar whacked - gold up.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:26 | 581123 Hatshepsut7
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The Sagittarius Factor in full force, Monday, today and tomorrow. Usually very positive for metals. For all who care.

Careful here.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:29 | 581137 Pillage
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That gold chart looks like one of those unheard of stocks that robo post on a big up day. Has anyone seen robo?

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:44 | 581184 Spalding_Smailes
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Robo is working on a margin call dispute/issue with 2-WAYFX...

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:59 | 581226 Turd Ferguson
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"Robo" can take his cartoon parodies of Jim Sinclair and stick them directly up his ass.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:08 | 581244 Pillage
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But Jim you promised

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:56 | 581384 Segestan
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You got that right!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:39 | 581169 Duffminster
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Crimex has not gone away and the battle is raging as much as ever.  More deep pocketed longs I believe have come to realize that the battle will be won in the trenches starting with taking as much physical silver delivery as possible. 

If Paulson and entities of his caliber were to start putting more of their metals capital allocations into taking delivery on physical silver and moving out of the primary dealer custodial based gold ETFs, where the gold can be used to manipulate the exchanges prices, and into ETFs like Sprott, or just taking deliver of physical gold, they would have much more influence in the battle against crimex in my opinion.

The battle will ultimately be won when the call in the market is "show me the silver" and "show me the gold" and the derivatives are seen for what they are.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:53 | 581216 Treeplanter
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So Right.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:00 | 581391 traderjoe
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Most of those guys are longer stocks then gold. Gold is nothing more then a hedge for them, and they are still in the 'system'. They would not want to start a run...

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:52 | 581210 Saxxon
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Just offloaded my DGP.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 16:03 | 581538 ATG
Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:06 | 581239 buzlightening
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Nows don't go taken possession of any of dat barbaric real money gold/silver! Tis in a bubble and paper is a real monetary store of value as we's printing it to worthlessness!  hehehehehehehehehehe

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:15 | 581266 stoverny
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at times like this I like to quote my favorite gold bug, yukon cornelius:

"GOLD!

GOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDD!"

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:29 | 581306 Temporalist
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You had your ZH birthday last week stoverny.

Happy ZH Day!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:35 | 581320 Dagny Taggart
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Yes! I was singing that silver and gold song from Rudolf at lunch! That is funny.

Does anyone else think that Bravo has a locked trunk full of physical gold in his dorm room? Maybe he is pulling a Goldman trying to drive down the price?

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:29 | 581305 DeltaDawn
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My opinion is that the increases we are seeing in equities are also a form of dollar offloading. Even though the stocks are dollar denominated, owning shares of a company might be seen as better than owning a bag of the steaming green shit.  My gut is telling me to empty my bank account because the FDIC won't really be there for all of us.  I have done home improvements, as well as stock up on necessities and buy PMs.   I almost vomit when I hear the word "bonds".  I am not an educated investor, but have done quite well following my gut. The same gut that told me to drop Econ 101 while in college.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:01 | 581395 traderjoe
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I think the great liquidation will crush stocks, as people sell anything liquid to pay debts, build cash, etc. 

Hyper-deflation and hyper-inflation are the same to me...

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:59 | 581528 ATG
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brilliant...

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 16:19 | 581600 Treeplanter
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Miners will likely get hit, then rebound nicely.  Good stocks kept value through the Wiemar years.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:31 | 581310 Goldenballs
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Its not just Gold going up,Sugar up today by 4%.Something is going down and it ain,t commodities.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:34 | 581315 Turd Ferguson
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Posted: Sep 14 2010     By: Dan Norcini      Post Edited: September 14, 2010 at 2:10 pm

Filed under: Trader Dan Norcini

Dear Friends,

Today is a case of being careful what you wish for – the Fed has pulled out all the stops in an attempt to avoid a deflationary trap tied to the inception of the credit crisis that broke loose in the summer of 2008. Since then they have flooded the system with liquidity through a process dubiously referred to as Quantitative Easing. They have also loaded their balance sheet with worthless loan paper and shoved interest rates practically to zero.

Not to be outdone, our illustrious administration has saddled us with enough debt at the federal level to last three generations all in the name of “stimulus”.

The result – they have gotten their wish – sadly for all of us, who actually have to live with their damn stupidity, they have let slip the dogs of inflation who have bared their fangs and are now ravenously devouring the hopes and dreams of the middle class in this nation.

The funny money has made its way into the commodity sector driving food prices to unseemly high levels once again just as what happened in 2008. Corn is now within spitting distance of $5.00, wheat is more than $7.00, soybeans are over $10, sugar is over $0.24/pound, cotton is closing in on $1.00, coffee is up near $2.00 pound wholesale ( a 13 year high), cattle are just shy of $1.00/pound, bellies are trading over $1.50/pound for fresh product. In short, the consumer is on the verge of watching his or her’s disposal income decimated by high food prices at the very time that a record number of Americans are on food stamps and are either unemployed or underemployed.

I shudder to say it but based on what I can see of the price action across the commodity sector today, an evil has now been loosed upon the land that portends the eventual ruin of the middle class.

The only bit of saving grace is that energy prices have not YET begun moving up alongside the rest of the commodity complex. I think it is only a matter of time however before the crude complex gets involved. When it does, home heating bills, home cooling bills, industrial energy costs and gasoline prices will join the list of soaring costs nationwide.

The one-two knockout punch of higher soaring food cost and higher energy costs will finish off the consumer whose wages have been stagnant for longer than I can now remember.

Make no mistake about what you seeing, especially with the price action of gold and silver. Both metals are signifying a loss of confidence in the Dollar and particularly in its management team.  It is ironic is it not, that any supposedly friendly economic news now results in waves of Dollar selling whereupon in times not that far past, any negative news yielded a huge inflow into the Dollar as a safe haven. Good news – Dollar goes down; Bad news – Dollar goes up.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:58 | 581523 ATG
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USD at 81.76 in March 2008 uptrend from 70.70 still targeting 115...

http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?s=%24usd

 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 17:15 | 581727 Turd Ferguson
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You're nuts if you the the USDX is going to 115.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:37 | 581322 Turd Ferguson
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Cramer: "Gold is going to $2000".

A-cups Burnett: (disbelief)

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:47 | 581487 DoChenRollingBearing
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Mr Turd Ferguson has inspired me to write haiku:

 

"Bearing's Take on Turd's Comment"

 

Gold is going up

A-cups Burnett: (disbelief)

I say: Gold bitchez!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 16:01 | 581535 buzlightening
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hehehehehehe! Keeping is good sense of humor as that's all these rat basturd dead head fed goonzi's plan on leaving the citizens!!  

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:38 | 581324 RmcAZ
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Gold-Prices-Surge-Top-tsmf-2513433551.html...

Gold is the go-to commodity when investors panic over inflation as gold is a form of money that retains some value. Unlike paper currencies, gold's value can never go to zero.

Shocked to see that kind of crazy-talk on Yahoo Finance... i'm surprised it hasn't been censored out.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:17 | 581426 BlackChicken
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That is my kind of crazy...

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:43 | 581341 jedwards
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WARNING!!!!  CRAMER JUST CALLED THE TOP FOR GOLD....

He said gold's going to $2000 and it's for real.  

Time to short

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:56 | 581374 BobPaulson
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Should we be using reverse psychology, or reverse-reverse psychology?

 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:36 | 581462 BlackChicken
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Should we even care what Cramer has to say?

Tell me if I am wrong, but I believe Cramer is also telling people to use ETFs to 'invest' in metals.  You know, the same vehicle designed to suppress the demand for physical metal, while allowing the target to believe he is still in the game.

 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:55 | 581512 ATG
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GLD @ 124.59 a very crowded trade...

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 20:46 | 582133 RockyRacoon
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It'll be crowded when my dumbass neighbor and the checkout clerk at Kroger tell me they bought some.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:51 | 581358 VFR
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even cnbc headlining can't bring themselves to mentioning the word 'gold'

"For the Bad News Bulls, Adversity Is Opportunity"

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39170579

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:53 | 581378 yabyum
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Physical is so easy to buy and hold. Play the miners for the speculation, keep the real stuff for saftey. It is time to become good friends with your local coin guy,Junk US silver for my taste!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:57 | 581388 sbenard
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It's not just gold, either! Corn, sugar, and cotton all set new highs today! Just look at their charts and tell me their's no inflation!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:53 | 581510 Gonzalo Lira
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Hey S Benard, 

 

You don't have contact info on your profile. E-mail me. 

 

GL

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 18:03 | 581817 Hulk
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Corn, sugar pulled out of the CPI calc and replaced with items on the dollar menu at McDonalds....

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:01 | 581394 orangedrinkandchips
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HI-HO SILVER! AND AWAY WE GO!!!

 

it's finna catch up to gold- it's out of sync and has been laggin.

 

bet!

 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 16:10 | 581564 HardwoodAg
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Been holding Ag long and hard for over a decade....Adding along the way. I share your enthusiasm!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:31 | 581451 redrob25
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I wrote a series of articles for Seeking Alpha regarding suppression on gold and silver.

I expect, based upon industrial demand for silver, for the price of silver to match gold in the future. World inventories of silver are precariously low and current demand outstrips supply. The supplies of silver to gold have already inverted from historical norms; the price will eventually follow once the suppression schemes finally fail.

 

http://seekingalpha.com/article/223037-gold-and-silver-market-suppression-failures-flash-buy-signal

http://seekingalpha.com/article/223091-gold-and-silver-market-suppression-failures-flash-buy-signal-part-2

http://seekingalpha.com/article/223301-gold-and-silver-market-suppression-failures-flash-buy-signal-part-3

http://seekingalpha.com/article/223504-gold-and-silver-market-suppression-failures-flash-buy-signal-part-4

http://seekingalpha.com/article/223993-gold-and-silver-market-suppression-failures-flash-buy-signal-part-5

 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:50 | 581493 still kicking
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You can always trade ammo too, so if you spot a hot deal on 9mm or .45 ammo pick it up, you might be able to trade it for the caliber you need later.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 20:54 | 582154 RockyRacoon
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You got that right.  I pick up a few boxes of .223 at Gander Mtn when they run specials.  It's crap ammo good maybe for practice -- or trading when needed.   I have a Taurus 45/410 at my desk and I'm thinking of buying a 410 shotgun just for grins.  Might be good for small game hunting to liven up the campfire.  I keep 2 rounds of 410 slugs in the first 2 chambers of the Taurus, followed up by some nasty 45s just in case you didn't get the message.  Daily carry is a Ruger LCP, not powerful but it's better than nothing.  Can't carry bigger because I can't hide the print.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 21:33 | 582198 Turd Ferguson
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That's fucking beautiful, Rocky. Protect and defend, baby!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 21:44 | 582212 RockyRacoon
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Forgot to mention the Ruger Mini-14...

http://www.oklahomaconcealedcarry.com/images/mini-14_as30.jpg

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 22:12 | 582268 spinone
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God forbid we ever need our firearms, Rocky.

Lets all drink a toast to a peaceful revolution.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 16:17 | 581525 Battleaxe
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Fed to purchase $27 billion in Treasuries over the next month:

http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/tot_operation_schedule.html

They just bought $3.4 billion yesterday.

For the month 9/7 - 10/6 they will have purchased about $34.5 billion.

So over $1 billion per day, including weekends. To keep interest rates crammed down. 

As of January 2010, China held $843.7 billion in Treasury bonds, down from $939.9 Billion in July 2009: http://www.ustreas.gov/tic/mfh.txt

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 20:16 | 582069 working class dog
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 Who needs gold when you have lead,

   ammo

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 22:16 | 582275 spinone
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Settle down guys.

Who are you going to shoot?  FED bank presidents?  Congress? No, they'll all be in Dubai.

Zombe hordes, mindlessly stalking you like in a FPS video game?  No.

Your fellow Americans, victims of the system like us?  Looking for food and medicine for their children?  Probably.

Lets all toast to a peaceful revolution.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 22:20 | 582285 Hulk
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peaceful revolution = clean coal, LOL!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 22:18 | 582279 spinone
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If we really do believe that hard times are coming, we should not only prepare to help ourselves but to help our community.  We can hang together, or hang separately.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 00:15 | 582538 Occams Aftershave
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Did I miss something.   CNBS this morning showed a graphic with the caption, gold up 27% year to date.   The next minute, another graphic with the caption, GLD up 12% year to date.   Was that a mistake?   Is GLD lagging that badly?  Too late at night to check the chart and do the calc.   ZzzzzzzZZZ....

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