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Just because the LBMA/JPM can't juggle their top kill of both PMs and FX, we have another all time record.
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I never thought I'd get a hard on looking at charts. Call me a golderosexual.
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What our mentor and hero said.
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True;
That chart is very goldiortic
I guess it's "Told you so" time again, bitches...
http://gordongekkosblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/its-going-to-implode-buy-physical-gold.html
Well done GG. You are a ray of sunshine on this site.
Gordon's article is EXCELLENT. Everyone here should read it. Especially our friends Bravo and jory (who I imagine will show up soon enough).
Not much time. Buy gold while it is still available. Under $1500 / oz is a gift. You will see.
Or maybe not, what the hell do I know.
But, with all the epic and biblical scale problems out there, I'm playing it safe and would beg all of you too to play it safe for your families: with physical GOLD. Now. Now.
with another announced 1M layoffs between now and 7/15, what fun this summer! I can't wait to start my second year with funemployment!
But...but...Douchinger said you were WRONG and that gold was just a doorstop!!!
And he writes his "tickers" as if Obama is reading them
I wonder what part of "arrogant hypocritical self-absorbed narcissist" Denninger does not understand?
The part where people don't just accept it and become ok with it.
speaking of denninger, he is back to his old peak oil denying ways once again. I just don't get that guy. Legend in his own mind I suppose.
Is that you in your avatar ? You slick mofo
brag, brag, brag. do you think the other guy id reading this?
I think gold to consolidate for a little longer then off to $1300. If we get a bit of a rebound in the US equities perhaps gold $1350 by July. wuh-ha-ha-ha!!! should have bought GLD July calls in the money. damnit!
GiGi;
Thanks for 'telling us so' again.
Keep up the gold work
Remember when they posted all those downward sloping "SPX in EUR" charts during 2009? Wonder why interest in those kinda disappeared?
I getting a boner every time Trish Regan comes on. Me likes the S&M getup she's wearing today!
She is such a "warrior". Pathetic props an increasing diversion ploy. Could become really interesting.
Looks like nobody wants to be short gold into the weekend. Can you blame em?
Personally, I'd like to go long TRISH all weekend.
+1000000
Work the trade. Enter, exit, re-enter.
Charles Nenner is shorting gold and silver, btw.......
Nothing stands in the way of gold. Nothing.
Well...the fucking bullion banks and the central banks do but they will, eventually, be overwhelmed.
I mentioned last night, the ultimate collapse of the etf GLD, (and don't kid yourself, it will collapse) is going to have the effect of 100 Lehmans.
The end is near. So close you can smell the sulfur.
Yeah, time to melt up some silver bullets.
Douchinger thinks that he does. He will make a really nice SPEED BUMP !
He's busy buying his stock market LEAP calls...
GG, you crushed him dude! His response was worthless too! It was like a Mike Tyson fight from back in the day!
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we'll see you at your house after the close gordo. we'll be drinking. will we bring carl?
to be seen on a GLD/USD chart soon
Another "told you so"...(repost from another thread):
http://gordongekkosblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/gold-what-next.html
But, there is no inflation.......lol. You can't it eat.......lol^n.
BTW....GG have you seen the COMEX inventory reports for gold and silver?.....pretty interesting. It looks as though the run to physical is in play.
As you have duly noted....the time for physical is now. I will apply maximum leverage and continue to accumulate mining shares.....if DTCC busts, then its TEOTWAWKI.....and I still have bags of junk silver at the crib.....and a couple thousand rounds of ammo.
And I feel fine.
So judging from the inverted triangle, the next failure should be in the muni bonds, since commodities like oil and copper are in killer declines?
good work gordon .. from now on Mr Gekko
I disagree with this pyramid. After the air we breathe, water and land are next most important. perplexed by diamonds placement; it should be closer to gold since it's tangible and is valuable (was used a medium of exchange in Europe during WW2).
It's manufacturable, and it's artificially scarce.
Why is Gold green - its a leprechaun thing isn't it
Anyone that missed this thread last night needs to be sure to spend time reading/understanding it today. Extremely important.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/gold-holdings-gld-surge-all-time-record
The Cosmic Joke: There is no price at which Gold should be purchased for in Fiat. So for a limited time there is an illusory doorway of travel between the two which will soon snap shut forever.
Isn't the GLD trust buying more physical gold because more investors are buying GLD paper? The criticism has been that the trust does not have the physical gold to back up the paper they have issued, but could this be evidence to the contrary? As I have mentioned in other threads on ZH I am long physical/short GLD as a hedge but trying to better understand the machinations of how the GLD trust operates.
I think long gold is cool--shorting gld, I would wait on that one. When the SHTF that etf will probably skyrocket--and if the S keeps hitting the fan--it will likely implode. I think there will be a lot of misguided investors flocking to gld and if this all plays out, the price should peak real hard before it falls any--just my opinion...
Strongly agree. GLD is indeed a worthless ponzi and it will inevitably collapse into dust, but now is not the time to short it, because it will soar before it collapses. There's no prize for being right in principle if the market is rigged against you.
Fat finger double post.
it should be 1014.00+ euro per ounce if you follow the conversion of euro /dollar -
It's getting kind of silly to measure gold in fiat. Why don't we just shift to oil as the measure and get it over with? Or at least a nice basket of global fiat including the yuan, rupee etc.
Somebody get on that. I have to go to a conference about my 9-month-old. Wonder what currency he'll use for his first car (and what the fuel will be)?
currency will be backed by whatever fuel he is using
Karl Denninger is busy buying LEAP calls...oh wait...
PMSL
Douchebag
Told you guys just above jory would show up!
Welcome jory. Keep trying, we need to hear it.
But, YOU, jory should read Gordon's article above. You will learn more. It might improve your arguments if you know how Gordon reasons.
On the other hand, you might change your mind and convince you that our problems are SO BAD that buying some gold is good.
Hurry up! Not much time.
Jory, do some homework!
http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
jorys been cut off at the knees
don\'t see his post
Disclaimer: Turd was calling JORY a douche, not GG. haha!
It sure messes up the string when the trolls get flaged back into La-La land after they've been responded to. Zero Hedge was at its best when they dropped the annonymous postings. Wish there was some way to screen out the trash without affecting us heavy readers but rare poster. You people with a real contribution help me in understanding whats happening and about to happen. Thanks to all.
That is why, when responding to known trolls like Jory or JohnnyBravo, I always respond with their quote leading my reply, so that if their original post is later deleted due to junking or banning, it will still be clear to whom I was responding and why.
To avoid ambiguity and possible misinterpretation down the road, ALWAYS RESPOND WITH A QUOTE!
I'm too gangster for that
and you people should NOT be junking anyone I reply to
Sorry, junked you by mistake. I thought you were comparing GG to an article of toiletry, but it seems you were referring to somebody else. Confused.
The bad thing about junk posts disappearing is that it looks like you called GG a douchebag (I assume you were talking to Jory).
Context sensitive advertising you moron. WTF else would google ads choose to put on a page full of the word 'Gold'.
not just context sensitive either, Goog alters the ads you see depending on many factors, including your geo location and your viewing history these days too.
Context sensitive, I wondered about the Cougar ads..made sense, all you guys talk about gold, sound all rich and stuff. Then now it's been replaced by ads for Gout! Don't let Jory make you sound so crabby.
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How's your portfolio doing jory?
Jory is allowed a colouring-in book on fridays, not a portfolio.
The people here are generally goldbugs it is called target marketing - Tyler is in no way shape or form a sell out - The only reason people come here is because Tyler isnt a sellout and he tells it like it is . If gold was going to get crushed Tyler would be the first to report it . So basically what I am saying is go to hell troll .
Most people here, including TD subscribe to the Austrian school of economics.
I prefer to be called an Austrian bug.
Much better than be called an Austrich ;)
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I'm going to Europe later this summer for 3 weeks. I think I will bring an ounce of gold as spending money. Maybe I will buy the Eiffel tower as a souvenir...
It doesn't plug in, so it won't vibrate. A loss as a dual purpose paperweight.
this is the 2010 gold prophecy that did it for me, pics n all.
http://buygoldsilver.org/2010/01/gold-2010-beyond/
Bring out the DOW 10,000 hats........again. It may be the last time you get to use them.
Was thinking the same thing, though the index is measured in USD so it may make it back in about 2014 if everything plays out.
The flow to the bottom of the pyramid is just heavier than a lead balloon!! We know they're lining up in the EU for honest money hands on gold/silver!! Won't be long and it's US style lines as well and the truth of not owning it becomes self evident if it's not in your hand!! 100% possession is the law among the lawless!!
Uh oh, a gold thread. Better watch my words here but...
No fucking shit its at a high in euros. Have you SEEN the drop in the currency?
Drop WRT what, other declining debtmoney paper?
Assets *not* requiring growth, those which have value mostly independent of it for whatever reason, are rising vis a vis assets that are backing unpayable debts or which require growth rates to be maintained.
Yeah, I want to see the conviction. I do not doubt it, it is a question of stamina.
Nice TEOTW trade headsup for us.
Flight down the reserve currency ladder. First from periphery currencies that are carry targets. Into euros..then from there into what underlies those, yen, dollars. Carry trade unwind.
But now we also see from the euro unwind something interesting. They're not flocking to paper, they're going physical.
ALL deflationists...well, hell, I'm a deflationist too because of math, but ALL anti-gold people or paperbulls need to pay attention to this break in previous trends. The flight is now ending up in real reserve assets.
I told people a collapse of the euro is not ultimately dollar-positive. You can't lose a de facto reserve and unwind a major world transactional currency which was even being used for oil in a few bourses without everyone looking at other paper and going hmmm...
Especially when what's causing this is a SOLVENCY issue. Not like the FRN zone is solvent either.
Friday should be renamed "Travday". You kill it every time bro!
How come silver can't keep up? Sometimes it maps Gold, others it behaves like an industrial metal like copper and maps the SPX.
Silver is a hybrid, agreed. Silver tracks oil and gold, so it splits at times. Since oil is weakening due to a "strong" dollar, so goes silver. But because gold is up, so is silver. Thus the capitulation.
PS, this all has to do with OIL.
Silver just got pushed into the mud, poor girl. I'll pick her up and tell her, "It's ok baby, come with me, I'll take you home."
Don't worry, people will catch on and silver will catch up.
Silver production hasn't peaked yet.
Gold's peak is very mature, Ag looks to be plateauing, but we haven't seen sustained production declines yet.
You don't know what you are talking about. Silver gold and copper are all found together in various amounts. It's been mined for so long you can't really say that the ratios aren't understood because of missing veins.
What you just said is akin to saying uranium mining has peaked but lead mining hasn't. You can't get uranium without getting lead becasue uranium decomposes to lead.
You can't mine for oil without getting natural gas any more than you can put gas in a pan without getting gas fumes.
Are you on something, man?
If you *seriously* want to go into production levels with me, I can give you the charts.
The ratio of presence of Ag, Au, and Cu together are not fixed, doofus.
Neither is lead and U238, which has a half life of 3.7 BILLION years. lol.
I hope you wrote that post as a joke.
A billion just ain't what it used to be, anymore.
He doesn't even understand what half life decay means. It's probability.
He sees it as being stable for billions of years. It's not. Don't believe me grab a big chunck of it and hang out with it for 20 years.
There are silver deposits that are not economically feasible to get to and copper deposits that follow the same principle. But they aren't sufficient to drastically alter behavior. Once gold peaks it's peaked for the others. Gold is money it sucks at pretending to be a commercial commodity. Silver is money and a commerical commodity. Copper is a commercial commodity that can pretend to be money. A trick rome likely pulled to get people to bring supplies without paying shipping.
When the physical/paper timebomb goes off, silver will have it's day. So long as market confidence in PM paper instruments (read: ETFs) remains, silver fights the headwinds of manipulation, which is easy/cheap for TPTB.
I think the physical/paper PM issue will explode this year (summer?), and I think silver will reach $30/oz. before we stagger into 2011...
Even people I know who hate gold are buying it. A friend bought 60 ounces of GLD today. The issue with Hungary is proof that Germany will have to bail out everyone. I hope they say F U to the French. Mad Max could be on the way.
I would buy GLD too if I hated gold. Real gold, that is. The kind that actually exists.
It's interesting to me that virtually every form of media lists gold as a commodity, and yet, across the street from my office is a currency exchange (in NYC) and it lists gold as one of the currencies that it will exchange for dollars right next to Euros, Canadian Dollars, and the rest. How did gold come to be treated as a commodity rather than a currency?
Propaganda.
Oh, come ON...wrong answer, man.
It's because currencies ARE commodities too.
touche.
Currencies function as collateral.
so shorting lumber is the same as being long gold ?
Currencies are commodities my ass.
No, shorting lumber would be short, being long gold is being long.
Currencies ARE commodities. I'll pull from wiki a convenient definition: A commodity is a good for which there is demand, but which is supplied without qualitative differentiation across a market. It is fungible, i.e. the same no matter who produces it. Examples are petroleum, notebook paper, milk or copper.[1] The price of copper is universal, and fluctuates daily based on global supply and demand.
Price ratios of commodities WRT other commodities vary according to market forces. Currencies are commodities.
Is gold going up or is the euro going down?
I disagree completely.
The paper on which a dollar is printed is a commodity, but the dollar itself is NOT a commodity, any more than dishonesty or fraud are "commodities". The dollar is an intangible financial and notational construct.
Gold is a commodity which can be treated as, and behaves as, money.
Just because certain commodities are also money, it does not hold that the converse is true, that all commodities are money. That assertion is absurd.
Trav777 goes long lumber and hedges by going short gold, what a guy.
use small tree logs as currency
all you need is a foot long and a chain saw for any purchase /
change is recorded as the saw dust
Don't tell Douchinger, because according to him and his tickers that he writes as if Congress and Obama are hanging on every word, gold can't be exchanged for much of anything conveniently.
All currencies are also commodities...same supply and demand forces act on them.
With a full understanding of the inverted pyramid above, I have been buying physical gold since it was $275 and its hard not to get a little excited now... heh
Jory, you are the moron for your name calling without a thorough understanding of the facts and consequences.
I kinda feel sorry for you, cause your daddy didnt teach you what real money IS, and what it is NOT.
In the immortal words of Chumba, GOLD BITCHES!!! and a side of SILVER!
Instead of that *teetering* GLD fund I own PHYS which responds to gold spikes with shallow troughs. I didn't realize it was a 1/2x inverse gold fund. I love paying a premium for bullion that would be confiscated anyway if everything goes to hell.
Looks like the thing to do is buy silver and take delivery if you can at the COMEX price.
While JPM and the LBMA are having trouble with Gold, there using JP's massive leverage to knock silver down as a means of holding gold back from jumping well above 1250 in my opinion. If anyone in the hedge business ever got smart about this, they'd turn their paper orders into physical deliver orders in silver and take delivery. A strong rise in silver above recent highs will drive gold hard and fast in my opinion. They only way to beat the 10,000,000 silver and gold derivatives guerrilla is to take deliver of physical silver in my opinion.
"The only way to beat the... silver and gold derivatives guerrilla is to take deliver of physical silver..."
Bingo. You are correct. Taking delivery of physical gold doesn't hurt, either. The market demand/price for physical must become the primary market/price factor if PMs are to break-out and fulfill their pre-destined role as the last/only store of wealth/value. The paper game must end and physical delivery demand is the only way to do it.
When the paper (comex) contracts become physical delivery demand, the comex warehouse will be empty, and the paper PM charade will end badly.
Frankly, I am surprised that someone or some group hasn't conspired to overwhelm the comex yet... perhaps the timing is not yet right...
This is such an obvious play that I am baffled as to why the likes of Paulson haven't engaged in it.
Silver is a miniscule market and the metal is far more rare than gold and used in everything from water purification and mirrors to most electronics and most of that silver is never replinished.
There must be some reason that there hasn't been a run on physical silver that I'm missing. But what is it?
Maybe all those pesky criminal charges the Hunt brothers were subjected to? Memories like that die hard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Bunker_Hunt
sinclairs fifty years in the gold business ..or butthead jory or bevis the zit faced Bravo
If you do not see the hand of intervention in the gold market early this morning you are either wearing welders gear or are simply inept in this field.
Like the euro intervention being useless in the grand scheme of things, so is the gold intervention this morning.
Above $1224 the manipulators will lose their influence in the price of gold. We sure witnessed that last US night in the euro.
The real numbers now that you will not hear on F-TV are $1.19 and then $1.10, below which the euro will collapse. This will return us to the dark ages in Forex, but will be good for the business of Forex trading.
With regards to our newest sovereign problem, if you were Hungarian would you prefer to own gold or paper of any kind? That is assuming you had any money in the first place to buy gold.
I only got into Gold last summer - exchanging euros for the stuff.
buying it in 2005 would have been brilliant but I still consider myself a lucky SOB
Well that is it. I am getting all my guns gold plated.
Good bye jpig when silver gets wrung out for delivery!! 80 billion Gold mkt and 5 billion silver mkt!! Sure jpig can naked short the chit out of the baby faced silver market!! Now what about meeting the physical delivery!! Soon the vindication when the interventionist/manipulating naked short robbers cry they can't cover the naked shorts!! Too bad so sad and I'll shed a tear as I send each and every one of the jpig dead basturds to my very last song for them all! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FywT-txGuss
However, when Giselle Bundchen starts demanding payment in Gold I have to sell that.
+ $1220 Instant!
I hope the only way my gold leaves me is when I give to my kid, maybe grandkid someday...?
The future of precious metals is secure as long as this analysis holds true:
http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/articles/piigs-europe-debt-eu...
interesting gold charts
http://financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm
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