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With Gold Just 1% From Record Nominal High of $1,444/oz The Risk Of A Dollar Crisis Increases By Day

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Gold Just 1% From Record Nominal High of $1,444/oz – Risk of Dollar Crisis Increases By Day

The U.S. dollar and yen are under pressure again today while gold and silver have taken breathers after yesterday’s gains (see table). Rather than gold and silver rising in price, we are seeing the continual devaluation of the U.S. dollar, the yen and all fiat currencies and thus their prices falling against the precious metals.

Incredibly, the dollar has lost 7.5% of its value in less than 3 months (since January 7th 2011) and more than 17% in just 8 months since August 2010. Hence the nominal record highs in gold and silver. The volatility and sharp falls in the dollar are leading to deepening inflation throughout the world (as seen in the UK inflation rate of 4.4% today).

Thus, the dollar’s safe haven status is being increasingly questioned. Many market participants are worried because the dollar continues to fall despite the real risks of a recurrence of the Eurozone sovereign debt crisis, a wider military conflict in North Africa and the Middle East and a nuclear catastrophe in Japan.

As the world gradually rejects the dollar as the reserve currency of the world there is the real risk of a dollar crisis. Should the dollar fall to below 71 on the US Dollar Index (see charts), there could be a wholesale liquidation of the dollar. This could feed on itself and lead to a currency crash as was seen with the British pound in 1992.

The monetary and fiscal position of the U.S. today is many times worse than that of the UK in 1992 which makes this risk very real.

George Soros was widely credited with being the man who “broke the Bank of England”. An array of hedge funds, sovereign wealth funds and central banks could very easily “break the Federal Reserve”. It may not necessarily be by design rather it may come about due to forced selling in order to protect the massive dollar holdings held by many powerful players.

A dollar crisis would not be beneficial to the euro, pound or other fiat currencies as they too would likely come under selling pressure due to competitive currency devaluations and debasement.

International equities would likely do well as investors hedge their currency risk. The very small gold and silver bullion markets would see an unprecedented volume of capital try to enter the market to accumulate bullion which would see prices rise dramatically.

Only much higher interest rates and a real return on deposits and interest bearing debt over inflation will prevent massive inflation. But the U.S. and the western world saturated in debt may not be able to cope with even slightly higher rates.


(Bloomberg) -- Gold Outlook Is ‘Bullish’ on Investment Demand, GFMS Forecasts

Gold may extend a rally for an 11th year and average 20 percent higher in 2011 as geopolitical concerns and low interest rates drive investment demand, according to industry researcher GFMS Ltd.

Prices may average $1,470 an ounce in 2011 and may gain toward “$1,500 and beyond,” Chief Executive Officer Paul Walker said in a phone interview from London yesterday. Bullion for immediate delivery averaged $1,226.72 last year, according to Bloomberg data, and was at $1,428.41 at 9:25 a.m. in Mumbai.

Gold rallied for a tenth year in 2010, gaining 30 percent as investors sought to preserve their wealth against inflation and currency debasement. Today, bullion gained for a fifth day and traded near a two-week high as prolonged unrest in Libya and the Middle East, and lingering concern over the impact of Japan’s nuclear crisis, spurred demand.

“We are still very bullish,” Walker said. “There is still going to be sufficient wherewithal in the investment universe to keep gold moving higher, and that will persist almost certainly for this year and probably into 2012.”

Immediate-delivery gold advanced to a record $1,444.95 an ounce on March 7, while futures in New York reached an all-time high of $1,445.70 the same day.

Allied forces are expanding an air campaign over Libya, which began March 19, to thwart Muammar Qaddafi’s fighters and enable rebels to control cities. In Japan, Prime Minister Naoto Kan said yesterday there’s “light at the end of the tunnel” in the nation’s battle to avert a nuclear meltdown at a crippled power plant after an earthquake and tsunami struck this month.

Gold will be supported by “macro-economic circumstances, the low interest rates, a lot of uncertainty, obviously add in a dollop of geopolitical risk and the concerns about Libya and elsewhere,” said Walker.

In the U.S., the Federal Reserve has held the benchmark federal funds rate in a range of zero to 0.25 percent since December 2008 to sustain the recovery of the world’s largest economy. The European Central Bank’s benchmark rate is at a record low of 1 percent, while the Bank of England’s benchmark is 0.5 percent, also an all-time low.

(Commodity Online) -- India gold imports to hit record high in 2011

Gold imports by India, the largest consumer and importer of the yellow metal in the world, is going to touch a record high in 2011 despite the high prices of gold.

According to initial estimates by the Bombay Bullion Association (BBA), imports of gold by India is steady and strong and could hit a record of 800 tons this year.

“Gold import by India is going up every month despite the high gold prices. Strong jewellery sales and consumer investment demand for gold are the main drivers for the surge in gold imports,” a BBA official said.

According to unofficial estimates of BBA, gold imports by India could touch or exceed 800 tons in 2011 if the current trend continues. “In the first two months of January and February, gold imports have been strong. The trend is continuing in March also,” he said.

Recently, the World Gold Council (WGC) had said that strong gold jewellery sales by India, the largest consumer of the yellow metal in the world, helped boost gold imports to the country in 2010.

According to WGC statistics, gold imports by India, the largest consumer in 2010, exceeded 2009 levels as consumers boost jewelley purchases.

Imports totaled 624 metric tons by the end of the third quarter, compared with 559 tons in all of 2009, according to data released in a report by WGC. India bought 214 tons in the third quarter, up from 176 tons a year earlier, it said.
Jewelry demand in India surged 36 percent in the third quarter even as gold prices gained. Consumers in India purchased 184.5 tons of gold in the third-quarter for jewelry, up from 135.2 tons a year ago, the report said. Total gold demand in India rose 28 percent in the period.

In the last eight years from 2000, gold imports by India every year have been between 400-800 tons. In 2008, India's gold imports dipped by 45 percent to touch 450 tons; Indians consumed 501.6 tons in 2008. Global economic meltdown, uncertainty in stocks and commodities markets and volatility in gold prices had a major impact on India's gold imports in 2008.

India imported 722 tons of bullion in 2007, less than the 1,000 tons estimated by the WGC at the beginning of the year.

Gold imports in 2006 were 715 tons, which grew only 4 percent from 1997, while prices soared 128 percent in the same period, according to a WGC data.

Meanwhile, gold bullion imports through the India hub of Ahmedabad have risen to a six-year high, according to the city's air cargo operators.

"Compared to 2009-10, the gold import at Ahmedabad has increased by more than 15% in [the last 11 months of] 2010-11," says Samir Mankad, CEO of GSEC Ltd at the city's airport, speaking to the DNA newswire.

Gold imports through Ahmedabad fell below 155 tonnes in 2008-09, when the global financial crisis saw India – the world's No.1 consumer nation – become a net exporter of gold for the first time since the 1930s' Great Depression.
Last year saw Indian gold demand – sourced almost entirely from imports and recycled jewelry, as the country has no domestic mine output – surge by 66% from the depressed levels of 2009, according to data from market-development body the World Gold Council.

"Two years back, due to global recession and slowdown in India, many could not invest in gold," says Gold Bullion trader and analyst Girish Chokshi, also quoted by DNA.

"Now, they don't want to miss it again. The import has gone up because the demand is aggressive."

"The present gold buyers are probably the same who missed the opportunity two years back," agrees Manoj Soni of AB Jewls, adding that "rural areas contributed the most in gold demand" as farmers took profits on real estate, and put the money raised straight into gold bullion."

(Bloomberg) -- Gold Demand in India May Fall in 2011, Morgan Stanley Says (1)

Gold demand in India, the world’s largest consumer of bullion, may fall in 2011 as consumers deem
the metal too expensive, Morgan Stanley said. Demand in tons may fall between 5 percent and 26 percent this year,

Morgan Stanley’s Sheela Rathi and Ridham Desai said in a report based on the findings of a nationwide survey. India consumed 963 metric tons of gold last year, it said, citing data from the World Gold Council.

 Bullion soared to a record this month, after rallying 30 percent last year for its 10th annual gain, as investors sought to preserve their wealth against inflation and currency debasement. Gold accounts for 10 percent of household savings in India, with private ownership worth $900 billion at current prices, Morgan Stanley said.
“Gold appetite seems to be waning as prices are too high,” Rathi and Desai said.

 Immediate-delivery bullion gained 0.1 percent to $1,429.08 an ounce at 3:52 p.m. in Mumbai. Gold for April delivery was 0.2 percent higher at $1,428.50 an ounce on the Comex in New York.

 Gold consumption in India accounted for 2.3 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product and one-third of world gold demand in 2010, Morgan Stanley said. That’s an estimated 75 percent of India’s current-account deficit, it said.

“A fall in gold demand will have a positive impact on liquidity and deposit growth and thus for banking sector earnings,” the Morgan Stanley analysts said. “In addition, the current-account deficit can surprise on the downside with positive implications for growth.”

 Morgan Stanley surveyed “middle and high-income” households in 16 cities in India during January and February, it said. It conducted more than 1,600 detailed interviews to gather the results, the bank said.

(Mineweb) --Ron Paul sets congressional hearing on U.S. Mint gold, silver, pgm bullion programs

U.S. gold standard advocate Ron Paul is at the helm of a upcoming congressional subcommittee hearing that will examine one of his favorite topics.

Longtime gold standard advocate, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, has scheduled an April 1 hearing of his U.S. House Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy to examine the bullion programs at the U.S. Mint.

Last week Paul introduced H.R. 1098, the Free Competition in Currency Act of 2011, that would repeal legal tender laws in order to prohibit taxation on gold, silver, platinum, palladium and rhodium bullion.  The bill has been referred to the House Committees on Financial Services, Ways and Means, and Judiciary.

Paul is a strong advocate of currency backed by precious metals. Peter Schroeder, a reporter for The Hill, recently suggested that he anticipates that Paul will use the bullion hearing to further promote his cause.

Last July, Mineweb reported that Paul opposes the Mint's effort to gain greater power in determining the metals composition of circulating coinage.

The Mint is now setting the stage for a major overhaul of the metals composition of coins and how the Mint is going to manufacture them. The Coin Modernization, Oversight and Continuity Act of 2010 gives the Mint greater flexibility in meeting the demand for bullion coins as well as meeting the demand for gold and silver numismatic items.

Previously, Congress regulated the qualities and quantities of U.S. bullion coins.

(Financial Times) -- Gold key to financing Gaddafi struggle

The international community has hit Muammer Gaddafi with a raft of sanctions and asset freezes aimed at cutting off his funding. But the embattled Libyan leader is sitting on a pot of gold.

The Libyan central bank – which is under Colonel Gaddafi’s control – holds 143.8 tonnes of gold, according to the latest data from the International Monetary Fund, although some suspect the true amount could be several tonnes higher.

Those reserves, among the top 25 in the world, are worth more than $6.5bn at current prices, enough to pay a small army of mercenaries for months or even years.

While many central banks hold their gold reserves in international vaults in London, New York or Switzerland, Libya’s bullion is in the country, said people familiar with the country’s activities in the gold market.

US and European governments have frozen billions of dollars in Libyan assets, as sanctions have hit the central bank, sovereign wealth fund and state oil company.

But Libya’s gold reserves may provide Col Gaddafi with a lifeline – if he can sell them. To raise large amounts of money, bankers said, Col Gaddafi would have to transport the bullion out of Libya.

Before violence broke out the gold was stored at the central bank in Tripoli. But since then it may have been moved to another location, such as the southern city of Sebha – within reach of the borders with Chad and Niger.

The political turbulence in the Middle East – besides boosting the price of gold to a record $1,444 a troy ounce – has highlighted the property that has for centuries made gold so appealing to criminals, investors and dictators alike: it does not rely on a government for its value.

Following the revolution in Egypt, the country banned gold exports for four months in order to prevent officials of the former government from moving their wealth abroad.

At the same time, Iran has been quietly stocking up on gold in recent years, in an apparent attempt to shift away from the US dollar and thus protect its reserves from risk of seizure. Other significant buyers of gold include China, Russia and India.

No international bank or trading house is likely to buy gold with any hint of a link to the Libyan regime, bankers said. “Physical trading houses are now quite reluctant to deal with countries that have been involved with conflict – they don’t know who’s on the end of the trade,” said one banker.

But Col Gaddafi could transport the gold to Chad or Niger, where the gold could be swapped for currency transferred into a bank owned by the Libyan Foreign Bank – a branch of the central bank.

“If a country like Libya wants to make their gold liquid it would probably be in the form of a swap – whether for arms, food or cash,” said Walter de Wet, head of commodities research at Standard Bank.

In addition to the gold reserves, Col Gaddafi may also have hoarded some cash from oil sales outside of the traditional channels.


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Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:27 | 1085339 TruthInSunshine
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O Rly?
I think it's too late to say 'near' boiling point.

It's 226 degrees.

Fukushima nuclear storage pool near boiling point - ‎25 minutes ago‎


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:33 | 1085358 Harlequin001
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'Incredibly, the dollar has lost 7.5% of its value in less than 3 months (since January 7th 2011) and more than 17% in just 8 months'

Nope, never would have thought that possible...

'Thus, the dollar’s safe haven status is being increasingly questioned.'

But that was inevitable...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:50 | 1085406 oh_bama
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Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:30 | 1085534 nontaxpayer
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Picked up some krugers, sure love those babies.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:39 | 1085559 nontaxpayer
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Oh, and I bought a Rolex AirKing, discontinued model from the early 90's. What a beaut! Might come handy at the border, not everyone wants a Kruger...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:35 | 1085549 Harlequin001
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Yes, but no earthquake, so bullish if you ask me...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:06 | 1085452 Sudden Debt
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17% in just 8 months'

Look at it on the bright side, it could have been 34%.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:48 | 1085398 bankrupt JPM bu...
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Ben can raise rates in 15 minutes, gold is a bubble <sarcasm added>

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:39 | 1085565 Harlequin001
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yes, and I'm trying to strap myself to it when it goes.

Need some extra strong braces if you have any spare. I used up all my nails when I affixed my tin foil hat to my head...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:31 | 1085340 Conrad Murray
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Forgive me for blatantly posting OT, but spring is upon us, and thus, the season of revolt. Lot of big talkers on these pages, and that Operation Empire State Rebellion thing looked promising( ). So, who has what plans? Time to carve out a corner of the internet and get things in motion. Things are slow in here right now, but join in.  Leave the page idle in the background and check on it occassionaly. Participate bitchez

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:27 | 1085341 jesse livermoore
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I admire ron paul's fortitude and  zeal, but i do not think his policys will be taken serioulsy.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:34 | 1085364 Harlequin001
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I don't think his policy is avoidable...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:20 | 1085721 Creed
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yep, love Ron Paul, voted for him in the primaries


but he's had almost the same effect as tits on a boar hog


heightening awareness has been about the size of it

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:27 | 1085342 Andrewoldbullio...
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So if no QE3 or extension of QE2 market goes down right.  Can we just call this skirmish in Libya what it is (wars = inflation).  It’s not a UN coalition effort it is just QE3 in disguise


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:35 | 1085362 cossack55
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Thought up a new term for US  rather than stale old ones like democracy, representative republic blah blah blah.....


Genetically Modified Banana Republic

Whacha think? 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:39 | 1085372 Harlequin001
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It has a certain ring to it.

I was thinking more along the lines of 'Terminally Fucked Mickey Mouse State.'

or 'Land of the Skint and Terminally Bewildered'

Whacha think?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:42 | 1085381 cossack55
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I like it but won't work in "polite" company, you know, non-government folks.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:12 | 1085472 Creed
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Love the America bashing, it makes it easy to single out the leftist brainwashed pogues.


Without America shedding blood and dollars over the last century this world would reside in the new dark ages.


Thank an American today for your freedom to post your drivel openly on the internet. You owe.


Good luck with your love for totalitarians, I'm sure they will repay your loyalty handsomely.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:24 | 1085513 Inibo E. Exibo
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Tue, 03/22/2011 - 14:28 | 1086758 Iam_Silverman
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Yes!  Isn't Al Gore an American?  Didn't he invent the internet?  See, you do have an American to thank for being able to post anything (drivel or not) on the interwebz.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:39 | 1085571 cossack55
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Hey, creed, besides being a stupid koolaid drinkin motherfucker, how about reading a book not wriiten by G.Bush or O. North. Start with some Edwin Black.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:52 | 1085622 Oh regional Indian
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Peace out Cossack. Trolls feed on anger. 


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 13:04 | 1086372 cossack55
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Of course you are right ORI. I have always really, really hated nazis and they bring out the beast in me. May be something to do with an uncle that didn't come back and one that did less than when he went. The last "good war". Maybe so.  Thanks for the chill pill.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:13 | 1085699 Creed
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There's more then one type of koolaid and it's obvious the American haters are sippin' as fast as they can.


Read some history and you'll find out that your betters sacrificed so you could have the freedom to spew your thoughtless vomit without consequences.


Oh yeah...some of your betters who died for your freedom were does it feel to owe a redneck, boy?


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:45 | 1085577 Harlequin001
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we won't mention rendition then...

Surely you can't think that anyone with anything even romotely sarcastic or defamatory to say about a piss take of the US is 'a leftist brainwashed pogue'?

No one's that fuckin' stupid, surely.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:45 | 1085396 youngman
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Well they need to buy a new F-15 today....that is good for the economy

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:30 | 1085347 The Aviator
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This is awesome! Comeon guys, lets take it viral!

Crash JP Morgan, Charge Silver!
(With a JP Chase Freedom 0% APR card!)


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 13:15 | 1086398 DoChenRollingBearing
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JP Morgue will not be ¨crashed¨ by silver.  They either have the physical or the Fed will just step in and give them the money.  I believe that the COMEX is allowed to settle silver in cash anyway.

This DOES NOT invalidate the larger point; that gold and silver are likely to rise BIG TIME vs. the dollar and even the inflation to come.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:40 | 1085377 silvertrain
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 fuck fisher, he's just another apple in the feds basket..Manipulation and propaganda through stratigic leaks to further there agenda..Fuck em all..

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:45 | 1085389 Misean
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Yeah?!?! Someone needs to tell Fishhead it's also hard to unfall off a cliff....moron.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:54 | 1085626 Oh regional Indian
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Unfall off a cliff. Classic!

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:54 | 1085416 gwar5
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Rickards says the Feds cash flows are now so large from it's large balance sheet it can effectively back door monetize the debt to $750 billion/yr without breaking a sweat and no new official QE. Stealth QE.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:50 | 1085612 hamurobby
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Rolling it over and over, Rickards is my favorite.  The Fed might find out they will need to monetize the entire amount soon enough if interest rates rise much more.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:15 | 1085706 DosZap
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Well, someone needs to tell Fisher to get his head out of his ass.

Bernie Bernak has been doing it for 2yrs now.

And this clown works for the Fed?.Who's he think he's fooling?.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:30 | 1085353 Hannibal
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Tue, 03/22/2011 - 13:16 | 1086403 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, and so prepare accordingly.

Anyone with a Gold Buffalo avatar probably already has!  Good on you.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:44 | 1085391 Careless Whisper
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Mister Market is more powerful than the privately owned banking cartel known as the federal reserve bank.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:49 | 1085399 cossack55
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Mister Market died long ago and replaced with Zombie Market. 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:19 | 1085490 Dr. Engali
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It may be a zombie market that can be manipulated for a while. But in the end the market will always be the final arbiter. It will overpower anything they can throw at it.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:07 | 1085682 Oh regional Indian
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Doc E, I believe the "market" will long be redundant before it's time to swipe these vermin to the ground even shows itself.

Note the current war, now openly in progress. War is the ultimate reality distorter and the self-same money-men control the keys.

It's going to take Acts of God (Force Majure) to a greater degree than even the Clubbies of Rome ever imagned to finally bring this cartel down. And you can bet they will take many/most with them. 

Our salvation lies not in the invincibility of the market but in the innermost recesses of our "selves", long forgotten and the only, truly real thing we "possess".


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:48 | 1085397 BeeTee
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International currency diversification is favouring EUR.  For instance China is known to be dollar-swapping through the PIIGS back-door.  And when DXY no longer has international support, we get EUR out-performing (up 8% in three months v. USD).


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 08:52 | 1085407 gwar5
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"It will shock the world." -- James Turk

James Turk has been saying for a month that when the dollar goes, it will go fast and "it will shock the world."  Says the DXY has support at 71-72, but after that it's a cliff diver. It's at 75.37 this mourning (sic).

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:01 | 1085431 FoieGras
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"Incredibly, the dollar has lost 7.5% of its value in less than 3 months (since January 7th 2011) and more than 17% in just 8 months since August 2010."

How are these moves "incredible". The Dollar has been much more volatile and has seen much steeper declines over periods of the last 30 years. The last 8 months do not stand out in any way whatsoever.


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:40 | 1085570 Beam Me Up Scotty
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And our debt is in uncharted territory.  How do you propose the dollar gets stronger under these conditions?  The only reason the $ isn't totally in the shitter, is because every other gubbamint is printing too.  Short gold if you are such a believer in The Bernank.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:05 | 1085440 Sudden Debt
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Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:25 | 1085746 Shameful
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That's why the US is posting rape gangs...err...TSA at airports now. We need to let you tourists feel welcome the American way, by fondling you or blasting you with rads.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 13:19 | 1086409 DoChenRollingBearing
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Last time going to Peru I got my free grope from TSA.

This time I did not, no radiation either.  Lucky me!

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:05 | 1085448 byukid
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My dad had been funding a Vanguard IRA for me- I withdrew all the contributions and spent some on gold and silver, other I keep in cash, made a few other purchases. He keeps telling me it's increasing in value, I keep telling him if it goes up 5% and the value of the dollar goes down 7%, it's a net loss.


Am I wrong? I don't think so.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:42 | 1085579 Hedgetard55
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for being the one in a hundred that knows the difference between real and nominal.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:23 | 1085730 DosZap
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Not counting the dollars drop, he's losing just because REAL inflation is more than that, close to 10%.

Face it, there is nothing you can do to gain on paper.

Gold & Slvr, Plat,Pal, w/first two are your real lifeboat for what's  over the hill.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 13:24 | 1086427 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ $55,000 Hedgetard55 and DosZap

Everyone notice that Ron Paul includes such PMs as silver, platinum, palladium and RHODIUM?  Ron Paul is a thinking man, I hope that he is enough to wake up just enough, a critical mass to get America back on its feet.

Is it likely that he can do that?  Probably not. 

In the meantime, do just what Dos right above says: Buy Au, Ag, Pt and even Pd.  My kind of diversification!

Don´t forget Pb and lead delivery devices too.  You know, just in case...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:33 | 1085776 Creed
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hey byukid...personaly, if I had a dad giving me free money I would try not to sour the fountain, if you know what I mean


don't crow about it to him when you're right & he's wrong


you're lucky to have a caring dad, add in free money and you're blessed among men

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 12:08 | 1086179 byukid
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Yeah, I just tried to rationally explain my motivation and reasoning, but he wasn't having any of it. It's not a huge deal- he and I smoothed it over. 


I am pretty lucky in that I don't really have to worry about retirement because my inheiritance will take care of that, assuming of course inflation doesn't eat it all up. If not, oh well, I have my shiny stuff and I'm very happy.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:10 | 1085927 Clay Hill
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Good move byukid.

I did the same with my retirement account after a job change last year. My wife had no problem with immediately paying off all of our outstanding debts other than the mortgage.

What she had a hard time grasping was when I laid in a year's supply of staple foods and picked up a couple of new boomsticks to add to the collection.

The other day, she was helping me rotate stock, and came accross a receipt that had been left in with the goods on the shelf. Compared to today's prices and volumes, 5% - 20% cheaper.

 I've been buying silver items at estate sales and watching my pocket change for the occasional piece of "real" for going on three decades now.

Two weeks ago, She Who Must Be Placated finally broke down and agreed to let me buy $1,000 of silver online. Maybe that order from GC will come today.





Tue, 03/22/2011 - 12:11 | 1086193 byukid
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I'm also very lucky to have a .308 rifle and a beretta 92A1 with a compressor (legally owned in Texas, woohoo!) for anything else. Plus, I'm Mormon, so food storage is already in the culture. 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 13:26 | 1086429 DoChenRollingBearing
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You´re doing great.  You´ll make it through OK.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 14:36 | 1086793 Iam_Silverman
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"beretta 92A1 with a compressor "

Compressor?  I didn't know that Beretta made an air rifle with that designation.

A suppressor, now that would be something entirely different.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 16:18 | 1087242 byukid
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Whoops, good catch. Suppressor. And the suppressor is not made by beretta, and it's a pistol, not rifle. My bad.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 09:47 | 1089644 Iam_Silverman
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"My bad."

Just bustin' your chops.  The 92's were just being introduced as a replacement to the 1911's when I got out of the service.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:07 | 1085450 gall batter
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Watched an hour plus speech via video given by Mike Ruppert, author of Crossing the Rubicon. He predicts the same kind of food crisis here that we're seeing in other parts of the world. Also says the dollar will be worthless, soon. He's moving to Sebastopol, CA where he says he'll be within 50 miles of food sources. He's suggesting that people prepare for scarcity as the bankers continue to eat us alive and the economy collapses. Talked about Saudi, the corrupt royal family and the revolution that will come to the country, resulting in the barrel price of oil going through the ozone. I'm wondering if any ZHers have read his book, visited his site, have comments to make about his beliefs.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:23 | 1085506 Creed
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well, Ruppert had decided after exhaustive research that southern OR was the place for economic & social viability after peak oil, so I'm not sure why Sebastopol CA is suddenly a haven; seems bizarre & a waste of resources to pick up & move again


look, you don't need gurus to tell you how to think


all this shit is plainly apparent to anyone with a brain in fair working order, and has been since 2001 WTC or 2005 Katrina for US folks


get ready to hunker down, and if you're in a big city you better try to get the fuck out or at least bookmark a safe place to go for a long time and be ready to move fast; and don't go through your days half asleep or you'll miss the kickoff


grasshopper and ant, which one are you? that's what it boils down to in my mind

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 09:42 | 1085580 cossack55
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I don't believe you have a mind. Maybe a vacuum with receivers from Rush Limbough, but a mind, no way.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:17 | 1085712 Creed
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cool, my own personal little pet internet alligator :)



Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:33 | 1085778 Absinthe Minded
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He has a 12 part or more series on there called Collapse. Very moving to watch, he sees the future for what it will be and knows what's coming. I don't know how long Berwanker can keep this jalopy rolling along, my guess is not much longer. But, maybe the world is just giving us plenty of rope...just to make sure...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:07 | 1085680 web bot
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You won't find a bigger gold bug than me... but I have 2 questions that I'd like smarter minds than me to answer.

If you look at sources of funding for the US budget deficit, in Q3 and Q4 2010, and in particular Q4, 63% of the budget deficit was funded by the Fed via POMO. As a result, domestic sources of funding went to almost zero... which begs the question - where did all of that $300 Billion (annualized) in funding go? One has to conclude that it went into commodities... meaning we in fact are in a commodity bubble (to some extent).

If you look at the significant rise in silver and gold, it roughly starts in Q3 2010 and continues. So... if QE2 ends in June... what does this mean for PMs and commodities in general? Are we going to see this set the stage for this money to flow back into US treasuries... meaning a collapse in commodities?

I'm not proposing a complete collapse... since we have MENA, Japan, PIIGS, and the release of the Kraken to continue to source headline risk.

My next question is how do we filter out bubble from legitimate risk being priced into commodity prices?

Check the chart:


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:22 | 1085739 luk427
Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:47 | 1085812 caboy316
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I always thought looking at PM investment as a percentage of global financial assets was kind of a stupid way of deducing whether or not it was in a bubble. Given the sheer volume of funny money in MBS' and the like, that seems like a disingenuous way of tracking it.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:22 | 1085995 luk427
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That money has to go somewhere.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:51 | 1086117 StychoKiller
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A large percentage will probably end up in the Cyber-BitBucket!

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 16:50 | 1087386 rocker
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@web bot.   Remember the Bernanke's famous words, "I will not monetize the debt."  Said under oath in Congress.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:15 | 1085702 Platinum_Investor
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The US Gov just doesn't care.  They plan to place orders for $1 trillion in

new fighter jets 2500 of them with a total cost plus cost to maintain of around

$1 trillion.  Does that sound like someone who cares about debt?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 18:36 | 1085794 cranky-old-geezer
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"Incredibly, the dollar has lost 7.5% of its value in less than 3 months (since January 7th 2011) and more than 17% in just 8 months ..."

Now you have to get 17% growth just to break even in purchasing power.

Considering part of that profit is paid in taxes, it's probably more like 25% needed to break even.

HEY LEO, how many pension funds are going to see 25% annual growth going forward?  Even 17%?


Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:06 | 1085909 Bansters-in-my-...
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Gold is being "managed" by the Fucking Pig-Dog Manipulators.

I sincerely hope each and every one of the manipulators dies a slow and painfull death.

We all no that Gold is undervalued do to this Management.

Fuck off and DIE ,PPT.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:46 | 1086103 The_Euro_Sucks
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‘’ But Libya’s gold reserves may provide Col Gaddafi with a lifeline – if he can sell them. To raise large amounts of money, bankers said, Col Gaddafi would have to transport the bullion out of Libya.’’


Them banksters, always lying. I bet they hope he will be selling. They should know that  anyone supplying Gadaff would be more then happy to take the gold as payment since it is money. Why bother with the junk Dollar-, trash Euro-, radio active Yen-, or worthless Poundcurrencies. 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 12:10 | 1086191 Ned Zeppelin
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Dollar crisis? I beg your pardon.  Ben, unleash the dogs. We have an unwelcome visitor here.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 13:05 | 1086371 thebark
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"they" will keep kicking this can down the road for as long as they can.... and the longer it goes the more likely we will see a swift and mind numbing collapse. I think the ferocity of this collapse will leave us with social unrest and very unpleasant times. I hope I am wrong...but I dont see any other outcome...

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 13:46 | 1086520 Bansters-in-my-...
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Gold is so manipulated by the Fucking Pig-Dog Manipulators...makes me fucking puke.
Save a cow,Eat a Fat Fucking Banker.
Banksters-in-my feces.

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