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Thu, 04/28/2011 - 09:48 | 1215600 oogs66
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even the Easter bunny takes blame for no jobs

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:29 | 1215769 Sudden Debt
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Already been taken care of...



we even made it look like a accident...


Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:42 | 1215827 oogs66
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Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:55 | 1215895 smlbizman
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i do recall we had a few partly cloudy days that were in low 70's....you can not make hay under these conditions...-

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 09:48 | 1215610 lolmao500
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Eh Goldman, stop the 12% of GDP in deficit spending, factor in dollar devaluation (-10% since January 4) and inflation in commodities (from several dozens % to hundreds of %) and see what happens to your ``1.8% growth`` BS... ah yes, it would drop below -12%...

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 09:52 | 1215618 SheepDog-One
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The last act of every failed nation is printing its own currency to oblivion, monetizing the debt. We've been doing that for over 2 years now.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 09:59 | 1215666 Henry Chinaski
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...and everyone can see the results.  TPTB are losing control.  Well they really never had control, but the farce is being exposed and can't go on forever.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:38 | 1215800 Chuck Walla
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value – Zero,” ~ Voltaire 1729

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 12:25 | 1216440 Mistral or Zephyr
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2 years?!?! 

Try the last 10-12. 

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 09:52 | 1215621 TruthInSunshine
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Bernanke's solutions to the most critical issue, job(lessness) growth, is such an epic and expensive and inefficient failure, he's about to double down?

Say it isn't so.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 09:51 | 1215626 SheepDog-One
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Goldman sugar coaters just trying to look at the terminal chemo patient, saying he looks 'better than they expected', and therefore is about to pop up and win the Boston Marathon. Just not gonna happen.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:10 | 1215696 Misean
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Consumers are spending more but getting less as prices rise driving down inventory build incentives. This is supposedly good for the economy going forward.

In other news, the plane, which had slowed to conserve fuel, is now thankfully accelerating, as it has run out of fuel and its wings fell off.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:15 | 1215725 SheepDog-One
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Yes that about sums it up.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:11 | 1215700 TheRagingBull
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Rosie turns bullish, oh wait, on technical front.

“On a very near-term basis, and despite my long-standing macro concern list, which has not gone away, it does look like the market is set to rise further.  The technicals are suggesting as much, though I do await what Walter Murphy may have to say on the matter.  I had said before that a breakout to new highs led by higher volume would be an important technical signpost.  Well, we achieved that Holy Grail yesterday – both in level terms and with respect to the change.  This is not throwing in the towel, it is an acknowledgment of what the market internals are flashing at the current time from a purely tactical and technical standpoint….

…All that said, we had a breakout to new highs yesterday and this time, the volume rose on the major exchanges, not to mention rising above the 50 DMA on the Nasdaq, which is a clear sign that the big boys are putting money to work.  This market continues to impressively climb a wall of worry.  Market internals are too strong to ignore right now – the NYSE advancers beat decliners by a 3 to 1 ratio yesterday; the Dow transports soared 1.9%; and the small caps beat their major benchmarks.  My overall macro concerns have not gone away, but these market facts on the ground are tough to ignore.”


Source: Gluskin Sheff

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:21 | 1215748 SheepDog-One
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'Market looks like it will rise further'...well so what? Dollar is set to drop further, anyone hoping to get dollar gains by riding stocks up the down escalator has a WAY stronger gambling stomach than I do! Screw stocks!

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:34 | 1215797 TheRagingBull
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Last bear to throw in the towels, what would be the worst scenario for chairsatan? declining stock price on weaker dollars, we are all screwed.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:40 | 1215818 SheepDog-One
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I hear that, the last bear has turned bull, and buying the top. Well good luck to him, he'll need it!

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 13:21 | 1216736 oogs66
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I would feel bad for him if he basically just called the top :(

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 13:34 | 1216820 Johnny Lawrence
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He said technically the market looks like it's going up in the short-term.  Not exactly throwing in the towel.  Technically the market does look good in the short-term.  It's above all support levels.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:10 | 1215706 lolmao500
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And today's bond selling auction will make the US break the debt ceiling.


To the moon I tell ya.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:16 | 1215711 Racer
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And what about that bloomberg consumer comfort figure out half an hour ago! Wow...

bet that will be shoved under the carpet

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:23 | 1215754 SheepDog-One
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That carpet theyve been sweeping everything under now resembles a postage stamp on an elephants back!

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:15 | 1215718 foxman
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The CAI will beat.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:28 | 1215768 Misean
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It's arbitrarily designed to...

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:17 | 1215724 Cassandra Syndrome
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I see Silver is getting very frisky again.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:18 | 1215729 Milton Waddams
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No worries, a 2% inflation tax will certainly solve all the problems.  The value of the money, while in the hands of the master's of the universe, will certainly multiply and trickle down to... domestic servants.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:20 | 1215756 Village Smithy
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How much of that consumer spending increase can be attributed to the "squatter phenomenon"? As far as I am concerned almost every cent of that found money goes right down the street to the mall. Just as an aside I wanted to look one of those references up in the ZH archives but I can't seem to find the search tool anymore.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 11:05 | 1215942 franzpick
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It's between $50-100 BIL, or .5 to .75% of PCE, and I have yet to see any decent analysis.

Just a WAG: If there are 7 Mil 'stay-ins'/squatters/home-sharers not paying on an average loan balance of say, $150K (call that $900/Mo.) and not paying, say, 2% RE tax on average value of $180K ($3600/12=$300/mo.), the PMI/RE tax "saving" available for mall spending could be $1200/mo. X 7 Mil., or $8 BILLION/mo., maybe $100 BIL/yr., a big number.

Developing credit-collapse metrics such as this is a 3rd rail killer for conventional analysts, but if you're not looking for it, you won't see the coming trouble.


Thu, 04/28/2011 - 12:00 | 1216206 Village Smithy
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Thanks so much for digging that up. I hadn't even thought of the property tax savings as well. Unfortunately, these folks still have to pay utilities, at least for now (sarcasm off). Imagine what the number could be if these people instead of paying cash at the Apple Store are maxing out credit cards and just using the squatter's rent to pay the minimums. That's a lot of retail leverage. Somehow, as large as this number is at its minimum, it is still not deemed newsworthy. I can't imagine, and I've spent too much time trying, how all this stuff is going to unwind. Thanks again for your reply.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:26 | 1215764 firstdivision
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Gee...what a surprise...another decline into summer.  QE to infinity and beyond. Get positioned for QE3 in t-minus 4 months.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:51 | 1215871 topcallingtroll
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I have been saying sell in may and go away, but does anyone ever listen to a troll?

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:25 | 1215766 monopoly
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Soon, it will be pollen season. That is a good reason for less jobs. This is beyond words guys.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:33 | 1215783 Johnny Lawrence
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Silver futures up 7%.  Dear lord.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:32 | 1215791 AbbeBrel
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Doctor $COPPER has been bouncing on its support for a while, and in a declining trend.   If it breaks through $4, it seems like this is as good an indication as any that BRIC growth is slowing.   The next major chart support is at $3...   It is for sure that home building in the Good 'ol USA won't supply much demand in the foreseeable future!

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:42 | 1215831 topcallingtroll
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Of all the brics brazil is the most open and economically enlightened. A young vigorous and growing population and huge natural resources.

It is the super bric of the bunch and has a gov debt to gdp ratio less than 0.40

It is also gonna get a little bit of fiscal stimulus on the buildup to the olympics.

The mortgage market is virtually non existent. No one has any leverage (debt). With a nice dividend that will grow and a dollar diversifier I hope to be banging that hot bitch a long time.

I put brazil into my long term investment funds with ewz. I am holding it until the olympics then re asses.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 13:40 | 1216833 SoNH80
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Brazil.... yeah.... a mixed bag for sure, let's call it.  They kill homeless children there, not a place where I'd want to put my money.  The elite there is a bunch of pompous arrogant pricks, just like the U.S.'s, that likes nothing more than to steal foreigners' money....

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:33 | 1215793 topcallingtroll
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The race is tightening up between real GDP and core inflation.

The core inflation horse has been steadily closing the gap. Real GDP is looking a little tired around the second turn. Stay in your seats boyz and girlz! It is about to get exciting again!

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:34 | 1215799 Milton Waddams
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The Rentenmark replaced the German Deutsche Mark. Due to the economic crises in Germany after World War I, there was no gold available to back the currency. Therefore the Rentenbank, which issued the Rentenmark, mortgaged land and industrial goods worth 3.2 billion Rentenmark to back the new currency. The Rentenmark was introduced at a rate 1 Rentenmark = 1012 Deutsche Mark, establishing an exchange rate of 1 United States dollar = 4.2 RM.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:39 | 1215804 Johnny Lawrence
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Here's the latest propoganda piece from UBS:

It remains our view that the expansion is on track and that risk assets are still positioned to broadly outperform. Equity markets are still trading at undemanding valuation levels and earnings season is shaping up better than we expected.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:38 | 1215808 SoNH80
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The labor market is softer than Paul O'Neill's erect prick.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 11:11 | 1215967 Racer
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And along with that consumer comfort news, just look at that kansas city fed..but hey who cares...free dollars for the rich to go play on the markets..

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 11:16 | 1216003 Dick Darlington
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Yep, free federal reserve confetti is the only thing that matters these days. Data coming out today has been soft but noone cares. Instead you see headlines like this:

04-28 11:07: Talk in the Pit of Algorithmic Buy Program started in S&P E-Mini Futures These are weird times...
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 11:10 | 1215975 Dick Darlington
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Kansas City Fed Manufacturing survey joins the other regional surveys in the nose dive.


Thu, 04/28/2011 - 13:22 | 1216741 oogs66
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funny how this hasn't been trumpeted by CNBS

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 21:33 | 1218772 Hephasteus
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Jobs. Here's 40,000 of them going away being presented as 17,000


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