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Goldman Observations On Money On The Sidelines

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Mon, 10/26/2009 - 11:45 | 110600 Daedal
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Wait until the optionARM resets kick in, we'll see how much side-line money is left.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 12:01 | 110605 Anonymous
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There is a large protest outside Goldman's office in downtown Chicago.... Anything similar in other cities?

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 13:11 | 110670 Daedal
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I work 2 blocks away, going out right now. Will report back shortly.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 14:12 | 110730 Daedal
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Update: Nada @ 85 Broad.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 23:34 | 111277 Anonymous
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I do not think so; however, I saw in HuffPo amongst the photos of Chicago protests that there were a few shots of a group of people in NYC protesting outside LB's apt at 15 CPW. One person had a squid effigy --- how is that for a visual?

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 12:02 | 110607 Anonymous
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Didn't they just make the case for a top? Retail investors = dumb money. Retail investor = last to the party. Retail investor = only party with sideline money.

As a non-retail investor then you'd want to sell into any rally because there is no one left to buy but dumb money.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 12:06 | 110611 rhinotrader
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I hope this a good analogy/conspiracy theory. The NFL said that the Patriots/Bucs game sold out in 6 minutes. They also said that 1 in 6 Brit's are NFL fans. WTF? That is a lie that is comparable to the recession is over and bank stress test. Big powerful govt's and corporations lie constantly.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 12:19 | 110624 Anonymous
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Who in their right mind would put money into the stock market after this incredible betrayal?

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 12:21 | 110626 sladner
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Take a look at MMF assets after adjusting for money supply growth over the last 20 years...you'll see that there is just about the "correct" amount in MMF's.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 12:27 | 110630 vreporter
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"Potential" flows have a different meaning now - than before.

These flows have NO INTEREST in coming back in spite of the losses they may have already realized. They are now disciplined enough not to try and make it back.

 

They will remain on the sidelines for a much longer time than this "recovery" has offered them!

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 12:28 | 110631 Dixie Normous
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People will bypass funds and go directly to AMZN, buy their HP computer, download the latest and greatest from MSFT, and watch streaming movies courtesy of NFLX.

The new economy, not to be confused with the equity markets.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 12:42 | 110639 Anonymous
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NATIONALISATION HERE WE COME!!!

A senior administration official said on Sunday that after extensive consultations with Treasury Department officials, Representative Barney Frank, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, would introduce legislation as early as this w...eek...

The measure would make it easier for the government to seize control of troubled financial institutions, throw out management, wipe out the shareholders and change the terms of existing loans held by the institution.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/business/economy/26big.html?_r=1&ref=b...

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 15:02 | 110785 Anonymous
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I had thought that these powers had been proposed for the Fed, not the government.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 13:11 | 110671 Anonymous
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Finally(if Frank's statement is true)they can't hide behind the TBTF argument. So now who is the turn on?. Well, I am sure that GS is studying that proposal for now to see if it has to apply for a GSE charter instead of a bank charter. Or else, may be the market is in jeopardy. Having said that,how about the 10 y yield going back up to 3.5 for the first time (I think since May)?

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 13:18 | 110675 Hansel
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Goldman Sachs has gone full retard.  They are trying to argue that the people who have stayed on the sidelines through the entire run up are now going to decide yields on MMFs suck and they should buy equities.  And hypothetically if they are right, $600 billion is ~4.5% of the S&P 500.  Goldman is looking for bagholders.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 13:57 | 110711 lizzy36
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yep, their year end in nov.  time to take off risk.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 13:49 | 110702 time123
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It is not just a question of how much money is in the sidelines. It is also a question of how willing the people who have it are to put it back into a market that is still controlled by insiders.

When insiders on Wall Street make their billions through knowing things the public does not, it is at the expense of the retail investor. And that investor may not be willing to risk it any more, unless she gets convinced that the playing field is level again.

The only solution may be to just go with the flow when it comes to the market. Watch the timing signals to figure out when to get in and when to get out. You may not have any inside info, but you can observe its results on the market through its movements, and take advantage of it both on the upside and the downside.

time123

P.S. I get my timing signals at http://invetrics.com

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 14:53 | 110769 dnarby
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OK, I signed up... IMO you really need to clean up your site, it looks fine, but trying to understand the signal is difficult.

I use timing services, and I don't want to read through a bunch of stuff to get to where it says long, short or cash... I want that on top, and right below that I want how long the signal has been in effect.

Also, timertrac or some other way to verify your performance is key. Otherwise most of us will just wait to see how the free service works before laying out any coin.

Also, while you do make some points, it might be nice to get a little more transparency (tell us a little about yourself), because you're coming off a bit like you're just here to pitch your service (I have no problem with this, but others might).

Just my $0.02.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 14:31 | 110749 Hammer59
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Anyone shrewd enough to have cash-on-hand right now---hoarded and liquid, is too savvy to buy into this stock market. Q3 revenues were terrible, except for silly and superfulous companies such as AAPL, GOOG, AMZN.  This moribound stock market is going nowhere without Joe Sixpack and Sally Soapopera, and their either broke or in debt. Distressed real estate is looking real good right now.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 14:57 | 110774 dnarby
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I have a feeling that RE will look even better in 5-6 years.

Right now short, cash and metals are the only thing that looks good to me (and I'm not too sure about metals short term, they seem to be selling off with stocks).

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 14:33 | 110751 Hammer59
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...CASH!

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 17:59 | 110951 Ned Zeppelin
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I believe that this research note have made a very serious omission in regards to the funds held by Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny, all of whom have cash and are ready to invest.

Who are these jokers kidding? This is a serious waste of paper and carbon dioxide.   There is no interest on the part of J6P to get into this market, if they have no already turned their 401k investments off, they have changed to bond funds. No one in their right mind trusts the stock market right now.

Mon, 10/26/2009 - 19:52 | 111052 Anonymous
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J6P retard here. I'll put my 401k back into stocks again after someone turns off GS's magic HFT machines, preferabbly with a sledgehammer. I may not understand all the financial stuff, but I understand how 3 card monte works.

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