Goldman's April Fools Joke Is, Again, On Its Clients

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Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:16 | 1136089 Cursive
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Luckily, Goldman's sellside, and its clients, was behind a very impenetrable Chinese wall on this one.

TD, I wouldn't be so sure to draw this conclusion.  Maybe sellside was taking one for the team.  GS clients, on the other hand, were definitely worked over.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:27 | 1136141 LeBalance
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Was your sarcasm detector completely off?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:30 | 1136149 Cursive
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Maybe so, but definitely not the level that I'm used to, as excerpted from this Fukushima post:

This means Godzilla is most likely very close to hatching. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:29 | 1136378 Thomas
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Yep. Ya got reeled in on that one!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:56 | 1137165 the mad hatter
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I guess fudiciary duty applies to everyone but bankers and politicians.


If I'm a doctor and i recommend something that harms my patients then you can bet i'll be sued before morning.


What a fucked up world.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:17 | 1136090 unwashedmass
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they screwed everyone once again, what else is new. You have to wonder why anyone anywhere allows GS to advise them on their portfolios.....

you might as well hand over the entire thing == here take it, its yours. cause over time......

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:24 | 1136128 Azannoth
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I think the only people remaining as Goldman clients are those without a choice, like drug barons, middle eastern dictators, gun runners, and politicians they know Goldman will take a cut but will keep quiet as to where the money comes from and where it goes


Goldman - the primier outlaw bank

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:34 | 1137013 Bananamerican
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Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:19 | 1136095 Careless Whisper
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Our only question is whether Goldman's prop traders...

...were buying while Goldman's clients were selling.


Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:21 | 1136111 gordengeko
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Doing God's work to the best of their ability.  That is for whatever deity these fuckers believe in.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:22 | 1136113 Sabibaby
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Seems a lot like taking your car to the shop and paying the mechanic to break it.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:21 | 1136114 blindfaith
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Obviously Goldman's clients don't read, anything including their portfolios and the quarterly results (and certainly not ZeroHedge).  Shine on you crazy diamond!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:26 | 1136138 alien-IQ
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...and this is legal because.....???? it's not illegal if Goldman does it (h/t tricky Dick Nixon)?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:34 | 1136160 chrisd
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A terrible research analyst used to be just that, a terrible research analyst. Now it is cause for conspiracy

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:37 | 1136166 Tyler Durden
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There is nothing implied here about an information leak to the terrible research analyst. There is far more implied about whether Goldman prop traded on the other side of what Goldman was soliciting, and whether it had non-public information in advance.

But, yes, just like with David Sokol, there is no reason for conspiracy there either.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:44 | 1136202 Translational Lift
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I believe that was D Sokol & Charlie Munger......

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:48 | 1136217 X. Kurt OSis
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Hey!! The unfettered right to shill more high paying clients' snake oil to less scrupulous clients (or an insurance company's shareholders/balless kool aid drinking cult members) is as American as the right to needlessly kill millions in foreign wars with no obvious objective.








Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:32 | 1136388 chrisd
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Of course there was nothing implied about a leak to a terrible research analyst, he still had a hold on it. But there was an implied leak to the prop traders / client-facing traders, with no shred of evidence. It is just frustrating to read a terrific piece of analysis, vis-a-vis your analysis of Bloomberg's readings of the TIC / Treasury holdings of China and then read this, which is just speculation or worse, propaganda for your own feelings on GS.


There are a total of 21 research analysts publishing on this name and 16 either had a hold or a sell on the Company. This would actually be a story if he had changed his rating to a buy a week ago.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:54 | 1137146 rocker
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Nothing implied, just the facts.

But, I will add: The Squid lives on it's prey, everybody else.  Because they add no value to anybody else but themselves. 

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:41 | 1136185 Careless Whisper
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Insider trading case takes a turn... for the bedroom.

The prosecution also played calls between Chiesi and Akamai executive Kieran Taylor, her alleged tipster.

"Oh baby, I love you so much" Chiesi said to Taylor, who speaks of a "clandestine" visit. "I'll stay at your place," he said.

Chiesi told Rajaratnam. "I played him like a finely tuned piano." That Bitch !!!

...asked Rajaratnam to keep the information "just between us," telling him, "We need to be a team."

"Just keep shorting, every day. We've got lots of days. Nobody knows anything. Short, short, short," she told him.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:42 | 1136188 The Axe
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You are so RIGHT TYLER!!!!  


But just don't pick on Goldman.....Citibank had a sell and so did others...ha ha

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:44 | 1136194 augie
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What was the name of that company that sold timberwolf to its clients knowing it was a "shitty deal"....?


Fuck i can't remember for the life of me. Well no matter, i'll just go back to watching UFC and finding new affliction T-shirts.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:50 | 1136216 Blankman
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Go get some "tats" and you fit the bill :)

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:03 | 1136254 augie
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So much worse than any joke I could make.


The first time in my short existence, feeling that i may just know more than the person (EDIT) reading the news.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:49 | 1136210 The Axe
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Tue, 04/05/2011 - 08:48 | 1136215 bigking12345
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GS has the A clients, the insiders that make money and the B clients the govt pension plans that eat shit.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:04 | 1136265 juwes
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When Saruman used Wormtongue to control and terrorize King Theoden and his people, an uncorrupted white wizard broke the spell of Saruman after subduing Wormtongue with force, and the king and kingdom became free to fight.

Who will be the white wizard and who will stand by his side?  (Please don't link to Ron Paul in white robes, it's not the kind of image he needs attached to him)

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:18 | 1136328 lieutenantjohnchard
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reason number 196,358 to trust yourself first, versus relying on the likes of wall street when you invest your hard earned money.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:24 | 1136361 mark mchugh
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Listen to me! You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you. He never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you.

~Tyler Durden

So once again, Goldman's clients get beat like a red-headed stepchild.

Need I remind you, Goldman does God's work?

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:26 | 1136373 TexDenim
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Goldman motto: We make money for ourselves. When in doubt, f--k the clients!

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 09:31 | 1136384 prophet
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Everyone knows it.

Almost no one can prove it.

No one can stop it (without a huge amount of collateral damage).

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Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:14 | 1136569 rufusbird
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Loyd said the clients who sold Nat Semi will have to "just suck it up!"

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:50 | 1136730 AldoHux_IV
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Fuck Goldman Sucks

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:38 | 1137432 Fíréan
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As Goldman Sachs, like similar large financial entities, have a revolving door between themselves and the Fed. and other regulatory bodies, they are guaranteed to be always acting within the "law". Or per chance they should slip up, then follows  a negotiated settlement,  an agreement to act legally  in the future and then some finely tuned lobbying to re-set the regulations ( or regulatory advise) in their favour.

Remember a time when these people stated that they ought to regulate themselves ? Well they got it  ! Just not they way everyone thought they had implied within the request, nor as  intended.


Upon awakening from the American Dream the people are finding themselves in bed with a monster which has devoured everything possible and is now eating them alive. It's hell when a nightmare seems to be the new reality and there's no end to it, no back to "normal".

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 13:19 | 1137679 Hephasteus
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I want a TI laser guided bomb for christmas. In case you're wondering santa. And I want them working closely with analog to digital companies to make useful consumer wholesale products such as more laser guided bombs. Shrike missiles, automatic area denial systems that don't need silly human thought processes or moralities to turn a football field into a meat grinder.

So please put me on your "nice" list santa and give me dangerous products.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 13:41 | 1137759 CustomersMan
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                    Re: Goldman's Role, What's Important Here   

         The 2nd aspect of note is that it is extremely RARE that ANY firm has a SELL on a company they follow.


         The 1st and most important aspect is that they were engaged in advising the company's involved regarding a merger and didn't say so, along with an explanation that indicated they could not render an opinion due to their involvement.


          I would like to see all "time and sales" records for the period in question, leading up to the announcement, as well as any derivative positions.

Tue, 04/05/2011 - 13:41 | 1137769 TruthInSunshine
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Ask buyers of Abacus, who were "valued clients of Goldman Sachs," what jolly & merry jokesters Goldman can be.

That's soooo Goldman!

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 21:39 | 1154203 thames222
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My mom worked for National Semi in the 80s...Texas Instruments is a pretty great company too, smart move by them to acquire National.  I did buy, and it's been paying off so far.

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