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Goldman's Essay On Why The US Debt Load Is "Not Too Concerning"

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Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:08 | 317393 BlackBeard
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Are they trying to break into the financial media industry?  If that's the case, they've got to try harder.  CNBC has a HUGE lead on the bullshit being served per programming hour.

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:22 | 317409 SWRichmond
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Nah, they're sucking up to uncle.

Mon, 04/26/2010 - 07:36 | 317722 ZackAttack
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Yep, a squid pro quo for all the 'help' over the years.

Mon, 04/26/2010 - 10:30 | 317939 weinerdog43
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"squid pro quo"


+1000!  Excellent!

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:29 | 317502 FEDbuster
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They are all just financial fluffers for the limp dick Uncle Sam.

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:14 | 317397 chealy3
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still wating

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:22 | 317403 Everyman
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Is any news media financial or otherwise going to start doing some damn investigative reporting???

Good lord the squids all collapse the economy by designing these CDS and MBS BS, and then ask for money, get it, give bounues and then tell us the bill to the taxpayers is...


"NOT TOO BAD"!!!!!!?????

In the immortal words of John Stewart:  "Are You Funcking Kidding me????"


"I am Joe's Raging Bile Duct."

"I am Joe's Grinding Teeth."


In the offbalance sheet portion:

"...and while many analysts left out GSE obligations before the entities were put into conservatorship, we suspect more are inclined to include them today."

GEE, since they are now TRILLIONS I would think they would need to be "included" in the balance sheets!!!  Are these guys for real, or just that damn dumb????

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:18 | 317404 BrianOFlanagan
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what a giant pile of hot stinking dog doo. 

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 23:17 | 317541 whatsinaname
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Will the giant pile of hot stinking dog doo smell any better when illegals (are forced to) leave the US ? Is the action in Arizona start of a trend and will it kick off massive inflationary pressures for the USA ? How will the bond market react then ? Will debt still not matter ?

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:24 | 317410 docj
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The arsonist, surveying his handiwork, with smug approval.

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:28 | 317417 chealy3
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Temptation’s page flies out the door
You follow, find yourself at war
Watch waterfalls of pity roar
You feel to moan but unlike before
You discover that you’d just be one more
Person crying

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:09 | 317480 AccreditedEYE
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+13 billion

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:24 | 317411 casino capitalism
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Self-serving @ssholes.

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:26 | 317412 Everyman
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"...simply because it makes plain that the current combination of government tax and spending policies is unsustainable and will require tough decisions soon.  Higher taxes are likely to be part of the solution, but reform to entitlement spending also is inevitable.  For exactly this reason, we don’t think that debt/GDP figures of 200%+ are a good representation of the United States’ current position.  They are based on an assumption that policy doesn’t change, but we know it must."

Gee, I wonder if that includes all the claw backs from all the bailed out organizations, as well as sharing some of the profit with the taxpayers of the United States, since they footed the bill for GS's assinine risk.

How can these guys print this shit with a straight face???

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:45 | 317452 All_Is_Well
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Because they know deep down inside that, it's all a sham, based in fantasy, and the money is worthless!

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 23:53 | 317567 Fox Moulder
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Straight face? They are laughing all the way to ... well you know the rest.

Mon, 04/26/2010 - 00:51 | 317603 Augustus
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Sure Goldie shares profits.  First it paid back the money with interest and profits on  the warrants.  Then it pays income taxes on its profits.  Then the goldie employees getting the bonuses keep NYC from collapse with their taxes.  As for you, they will give you a tip for that shoe shine.  Be happy.

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:34 | 317427 chealy3
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Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:34 | 317428 snowball777
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We gonna chase dem crazy baldheads out of town...




Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:35 | 317434 tmftdoyle
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Government policy must and will change. that is exactly the point; these changes will be massively contractionary to the economy. 

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:35 | 317435 tmftdoyle
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Government policy must and will change. that is exactly the point; these changes will be massively contractionary to the economy. 

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:37 | 317437 chealy3
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yawn, again

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:39 | 317442 SayTabserb
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Well, that's nice to know. I still can't follow, however, what is meant by the Social Security Trust Fund as an "asset" offsetting the future liability for old age pensions (actually, current deficit, since it's already running negative). The Trust Fund is simply a crime scene, is it not? The forensic, accounting record of money taxed and taken, spent on other general progams, and replaced with more debt. How can that be an offsetting "asset?" Also, what assumptions are they using about unemployment and growth? The USA is taking in about $2.2 trillion a year in gross taxes, spending about $3.5 trillion. What exactly is going to turn those numbers around? What assumptions are they using about future Treasury debt interest rates? And why did the GAO just publish a forecast that by 2020 (a little over 9 years from now), Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and interest payments would, by themselves, take up 93% of federal spending? I don't see how this rosy forecast can be reconciled with that. Is this simply more Goldman fraud?

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:42 | 317445 Tart
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This just in from Bloomberg "Stocks in U.S. Cheapest Since 1990 as Analysts Boost Estimates".......story to follow.........forget buying at 666 when it's much cheaper to buy at 1200

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:43 | 317447 chealy3
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yes, and yawn again..

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:45 | 317451 MsCreant
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Never mind if you can eat it or not, if we all bought PMs we could take this system down. If we could get enough people doing it, they couldn't pull this sleight of hand crap. It would be taking back our power that we gave to them when we let them take us off the gold standard.




Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:50 | 317458 chealy3
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how many people will it take?

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:15 | 317486 Hansel
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I'm doing my best!  I even figure some people are half-assing it, so I bought their share too.  :)

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:46 | 317516 chealy3
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it will take more than that

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:22 | 317496 BrianOFlanagan
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Agreed, time to starve this freakin beast by pulling all our money out of this corrupt system. 

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 23:12 | 317539 whatsinaname
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Do we have a system ?

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 23:21 | 317542 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Die Fuckers!

Ill Bill feat. Immortal Technique- War is My Destiny:


Mon, 04/26/2010 - 01:58 | 317633 Alienated Serf
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o/t- since you like hip-hop, check out uncommon valor by jedi mind tricks with RA the rugged man


Mon, 04/26/2010 - 14:52 | 318453 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Some of the best in the game right there.

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:54 | 317459 Crab Cake
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"Although on-balance sheet commitments should obviously be counted toward debt totals, off-balance sheet commitments can be more subjective."

This coming from a corporatized investment bank?  Who'd of thunk it. 

I can only speak for myself, but I don't believe a damned word I hear coming from DC (from either corrupted party), Wall St, or the "main stream" media.  All I hear is blah blah blah, lies, and spin.  Full faith for their bullshit fiatsco credit empire?  Whoever is counting on that from me can go F themselves. I'd rather live in the woods in a tent, and die young, than have anything to do with any of these "interested parties."  The only reason I haven't gone guerilla is the good of my family, but rest assured that I will resist in any way possible until the day I stop breathing breath.

Ditch your mortgages if you can, toss your credit cards, don't do business with Wall St and/or invest, live a cash/barter life, don't do business with banks if at all possible and certainly not TBTF, and don't pay taxes through your paycheck (make the bastards wait, or don't pay at all).

I have had it with this hypocritical so called Republic.  We aren't citizens!  At best we are consumers, and at worst we are corpo debt slaves/livestock.  Fuck it all.  Fuck DC, Wall St, the ratings agencies, the political parties, the corporations, the military, the oil based economy, the War on Drugs, the media, the accountants, the lawyers, the ass backward education system, the nouveau aristocracy Bilderberger/CFR/TC, the Fed, the banks and bankers.... Fuck them all.

Even if this country manages to stay together long enough, I'm going off the grid, and will no longer be a participant.  Full faith my ass.  I'm done in any way I can be.  This is war.

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 21:56 | 317464 chealy3
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stop venting, defeat the enemy from within

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:14 | 317479 Crab Cake
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Oh, I assure you, I know fucking samsara too.  My participation dies with my ego first on the hit list.  I'm prepared to live in a cave with just the clothes on my back. I will let my rage pass through me into this world and leave not a stain, for it is not mine.  It is the balancing force of the universe, pure energy.  I'm not body, emotion, thought, time, my name, or action.  There is no control.  There is one escape, and only one.  Non attachment, and right living; the way and the life.

Emotion is not to meant to be contained.  Like all other appearance/reality, it is. The danger is in attachment to it.  I'm not entitled to anger, as the sea is not entitled to a storm; it just is.  The storm will pass, and calm seas return.  Neither calm nor the storm is right or wrong, they just are.  Freedom lies in attachment to neither.  This I understand, this I do my best to practice.  Liberation is not freedom from emotion, but rather the recognition of what it is, and letting it leave no stain upon one's being.  In this way balance and equanimity follows. 

Long live the forest, let it burn. 

Since I have addressed your statement.  Perhaps you will return the favor?  What is within, and what is without?  Hmmm?  Do you believe that to be clear?

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:17 | 317490 chealy3
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recognition of what it is

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:22 | 317493 Crab Cake
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Go fuck yourself, if there is a yourself to find.

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:30 | 317503 chealy3
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no need for anger, wasted energy

Mon, 04/26/2010 - 10:41 | 317965 weinerdog43
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"wasted energy"

like your post?


Sun, 04/25/2010 - 23:47 | 317563 Hulk
Mon, 04/26/2010 - 00:47 | 317601 Crab Cake
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I love it.  Thanks for posting. 

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." - Janis Joplin

Most consider that a confession of desperation. A person has lost everything, and now has nothing; freedom.  Look again.  Empty your cup. 

Me and Bobbie McGee


Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:47 | 317517 Hulk
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nicely done crab cake, nicely done...

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:01 | 317470 Nihilarian
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Nothing is more permanent than "temporary" arrangements -- patriot act, iraq/afghan wars, income tax, deficits...

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:05 | 317475 chealy3
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at what point do we stop talking about things that already known?

Mon, 04/26/2010 - 00:14 | 317580 snowball777
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When you stop whining and step up to the plate, chief.

Mon, 04/26/2010 - 02:08 | 317638 Alienated Serf
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when do you stop answering questions with questions?  state your case or STFU

Mon, 04/26/2010 - 09:03 | 317784 pan-the-ist
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Hey Socrates, we find your method to be vulgar and ugly.  Usually newbs who do this don't have the answers and want to appear wise.  Put up or shut up. (Which is to say, please write something with substance and add to the discussion.  You already have one foot in the grave here (that's a warning).)

Sun, 04/25/2010 - 22:15 | 317489 Missing_Link
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Just when I thought Goldman could not possibly piss me off any more.


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