Gonzalo Lira's Redux On Signs Of An Upcoming Hyperinflation

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Sun, 10/31/2010 - 12:29 | 688942 JimboJammer
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The  Perfect  Storm  is  here..... right  now .....

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:44 | 689272 Sudden Debt
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Not only in America. Also here in Europe. A few months ago, I had already seen numbers of 12 to 13% inflation here.

I only means we still have 12 to 24 months to prepare against the inflation nightmare.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 12:39 | 688954 Walter_Sobchak
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Gonzalo, I think the major question now is...can TPTB manipulate gold prices long enough to establish their new monetary system and leave gold holders holding the bag?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:19 | 689134 Arius
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"leave gold holders holding the bag?"


que passa?  am I missing something here?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:40 | 689174 tmosley
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Just wild speculation.

The only bag holders of gold will be left with is the bag holding their gold inside.  The bullion banks are just about out of ammo.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:30 | 689155 Oracle of Kypseli
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They can only manipulate a calm market. The current conditions are too powerful to be manipulated. This market will do what it must with everyone including institutional investors run for cover. A few banks, even with tons of Fed money, can not stop the wave of wealth preservation mode. 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 19:06 | 689482 kiwidor
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'They' can manipulate anything they want.  As for the 'wave of wealth preservation mode', that started as early as 2004. That's when the smart money started relinquishing large [read: very illiquid] properties.  Proof of the change-of-mind was shown in sept/oct 2005; gold went up 75/oz one month and 125/oz the next.  [btw, I interpreted that gold move as a 'get out of the market' signal, figuring that we had about 3.5 years to see the real effects.  I was slightly off the mark]

So who is left in the market?  A: 'Them'  and some idiots.

'They' knew the derivatives were worth nothing, and have probably compensated already.  Next phase, trash your own market, and make a killing on commodities.  with the profits from that, buy up what you don't already own.

Next signal to watch for (amidst the confusion)  :  Large and/or well known companies being bought outright and de-listed. 

[ok, it's a prediction..but i couldn't bear to repeat the usual "gold's going up/gold's going down" stuff]

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 12:43 | 688959 spinone
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Economics is not a science, much more a social or political theory.  Economics is really an extension of political policy.  As such, if 2012 goes as you predict, a political response or solution won't be too far away.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:13 | 689228 SWRichmond
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Economics is not a science, much more a social or political theory.  Economics is really an extension of political policy.

Bless you.  Economics is about how things get made, politics is about who gets to keep them.  Since both are about human behaviour, neither is a science, and should not be trusted or treated as one.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 12:47 | 688966 LeftCoastRefugee
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In this scenario I guess the only safe haven would be PMs.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:25 | 689030 CrockettAlmanac.com
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PMS? So we're going to unleash a pack of menstruating harpies on the bankers? That ought to be fun to watch.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:13 | 689227 kathy.chamberli...
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no shit sherlock, that would hellarious†

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 12:53 | 688975 Steve Zissou
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If you wargame this out what does the average day of driving to the store, buying a loaf of bread, some PB&J, maybe some Funyuns and a pack of magnum condoms look like?  Say...fall of 2011 and fall of 2012.  

Would there be bread on the shelf in the fall of 2013?



Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:01 | 688986 spinone
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Price controls and rationing

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:15 | 689013 Steve Zissou
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By what means.  Do you get to the register and they say.....sir, you can only buy one box of magnum condoms?  Would a national food stamp program be in place you think?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:23 | 689027 spinone
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Ration cards or the like

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:17 | 689237 SWRichmond
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Bugs Bunny from 1943.  Fast forward to about 7:30.

You know how it is with these "A" cars.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:22 | 689138 Arius
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oppsss...what do you say to the second girlfriend...honey, i already spent my one box of condoms..sorry

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 14:35 | 689167 Oracle of Kypseli
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Learn to recycle the condoms. Rince and repeat.

For bread: stock on yeast, flour and make your own. 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:14 | 689230 kathy.chamberli...
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iCONDOMs, bitchez.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 19:08 | 689484 kiwidor
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There's always room in the back.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:07 | 688989 Sean7k
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Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:04 | 688990 Sean7k
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I have one problem with your analysis: you claim the FED does not know what it is doing. Unfortunately, it is a really big flaw. Like most pundits, to begin with a false assumption and apply traditional economic theory to the result is dangerous.

Just as many have ended up wondering how the FED can pretend and extend as long as it has, it is simple- WE don't know what THEY'RE doing! We can guess, but unless we are in the room- we're blindfolded trying to hit the pinata.

The destruction of the dollar and most global currencies may be their goal- to bring in the SDR. Or it may not be. Commodities: remember this- most grain buyers have not been giving future contracts to farmers. This may become a game changer if farmers decide to hold out for better prices. Storage silos are not that expensive.

Loss of imports- we have done this before (the Great Depression). It does not destroy the country, but has been pointed out by others, it does allow for a transfer of wealth through the purchase of lower priced assets. People can live on food, clothing and shelter. In America, we have more housing than we need now, we are an exporter of food and we are capable of making our own clothing- we do grow a tad bit of cotton. 

I think the FED hasn't shown its' hand. It is still moving us towards the corral. I think when they start pushing us up the loading shoot, we will have a better idea. Until then, I suggest you stay on your toes.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 22:45 | 689836 strannick
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Exactly. They are more evil than they are stupid. Maybe they're planning for SDRs, maybe a Treasury bond default. Maybe a reevaluation of gold. Be alert for the writing on the wall, and the signs of the times.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 23:30 | 689893 Green Leader
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The forums @ Infowars report crops have been chemtrailed all over USA and that failures & reductions in yields have been geoengineered.

Where I live chemtrails busted plantains, bananas, pumpkins, fruits & other goodies. Pollinizers were all but wiped out, along with bats.

The imminent Iraqi Dinar revaluation will shuffle the cards globally. We are about to witness something REALLY big.

Better have a walking relationship with the Creator. Babylon is about to resurface.


Sun, 10/31/2010 - 23:43 | 689910 tmosley
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You just keep thinking that, bagholder.  Enjoy having the screws put to you by a third world central bank.  I hate to tell you, but a non-convertible currency isn't going to be revalued higher in this lifetime.  Iraqi Dinar have no fungibility outside of Iraq.  Any price you pay for them will be WAAAAYYYY over their market value in the country, because it is being pushed by shucksters as the next big "investment".

Next you'll be telling us the Venezuelan Peso (or whatever) will be the world reserve currency.

Also, "chemtrails" are nothing but ice crystal formation around vaporized particulates in jet fuel.  If "THEY" really wanted you dead, or if "THEY" wanted crops to fail, they would fail, and you'd never see any evidence.  All it would take is an engineered virus that attacks bees (unlike the current bee die-off, which is caused by the combination of a funal infection and a bacterium or virus--I don't remember which).

Or, if they wanted to be sneaky, they would pump a herbicide into the aquifer (namely the Ogalalla), which would leave little or no evidence, and could never be shown to be artificial.  Dropping some chemical from 35,000 ft ensures that it will NEVER hit it's target, but rather will be carried by the winds out to somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic.  Notice how the "chemtrails" never seem to actually fall, and you can see them for hours after they were "dispersed"?  That's because they are as light as air, and very slight updrafts will keep them aloft for weeks, while the winds blow them every which way in a totally unpredictable manner.


Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:35 | 690828 Green Leader
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1) All Central Banks report to their masters in the Metropolis.

2)Chemtrails are sprayed by unmarked planes *and* jet powered drones for lower altitude missions. The spray can be turned on and off at will, it's not 'condensed ice crystals'. I have witnessed it. Some are for meteorological manipulation, some for 'the shield', others for more evil objectives.

3) We know what they are spraying and how to fight it. Yahweh sent us an antidote.

4)I am a scientist, too...from one of these institutions that have buildings with exterior walls covered in vines.

5)Time will tell.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:03 | 688991 ArsoN
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My stinky french cheeses are already twice as expensive!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:06 | 688994 Stuck on Zero
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Gonzalo is dead wrong.  As long as government agencies determine the CPI and as long as the main-stream media announces the results inflation will never exceed 2%! 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:11 | 689005 EscapeKey
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Absolutely! And as long as you feed your family with meat-flavoured brusk sausages, overripe melons, and strawberry squash which doubles as a disinfectant, then your BLS basket of goods has in fact only increased by 0.3% over the past 5 years!


Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:07 | 688997 buzzsaw99
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What’s so bad with a trade war, you ask? Why nothing, not a thing—if you want to pay through the nose for imported goods. If you enjoy paying 10, 20, 30% more for imported goods—then hey, let’s just stick it to them China-men!...


This person is an idiot. Does he think we here in the usa can't make a toaster or frying pan? What part of "trade war" does he not understand?

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:24 | 689028 tmosley
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Find me one toaster or frying pan factory in America.  I dare you.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:36 | 689329 TheSettler
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Lodge Manufacturing Co. is the sole domestic producer of foundry seasoned cast iron cookware in the United States. Founded in 1896. Great stuff. 

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 19:33 | 689498 tmosley
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Excellent.  I need a new set of cast iron cookware, having lost mine in a house fire last year.  I will look into buying some from them.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 22:51 | 689847 RockyRacoon
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I'd think a house fire would season a good skillet just right!

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 22:58 | 689851 tmosley
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Only if you love the take of burned plastic in your food.

I might have been able to save it, but I didn't think about it, and the kitchen was the worst hit area (more by the firemen than the fire--had a lot of food in there, and they managed to get it ALL onto the floor, along with everything that was in the cabinets.

And I'm pretty sure one of them took my 9mm that I had next to my bed.  I wan't happy about losing that.

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 18:59 | 691846 Nels
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Lodge makes somewhat crude pans.  The interior of the frying pans still has the lumps and bumps from the sand casting.  They used to (but no longer) sell them with the interior ground smooth.  It's a bit more expensive, but you can get a better pan on the used market, and still get made-in-the-USA.  If it's more important to support an existing company, buy the Lodge, but maybe also a grinder (or find a machine shop) to grind it down.

Trying to fry eggs on a 90 grit surface isn't so much fun.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 22:57 | 689824 Big Red
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I usually find that some box store or dollar store sells one quality item at a quite reasonable price. You can buy Lodge Logic cast iron at Walmart. Not a great selection, though.

Pears Soap (wikipedia that!) has now changed their formula, no longer hypo-allergenic, could get for $1/bar at Dollar Tree.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:35 | 689052 FreedomGuy
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Actually, he has it right. We can make a toaster. It will cost 30% more than the Chinese one. However, it might actually work.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:38 | 689057 tmosley
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The toaster I have works just fine.  Don't deprive me of cheaper goods just because you don't understand economics.

If your economic solution to any problem requires the initiation of force, then it is wrong.  It is as simple as that.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 13:59 | 689093 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Indeed. How bizarre that some would insist that you must purchase one toaster rather than another at the point of a gun.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 15:32 | 689256 kathy.chamberli...
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i have to disagree. being female i have acquired quite a taste for domesticity. everything is just pure and simple crapola now. the cheap big furniture made overseas, no integrity in style and design. everything is just filler and bulk. square edges and corners are sharp. new shit furniture manufactured to just hurt you while cursing around your house. my father bought some cherry trees and had a lot of our furniture made like the Amish styling. smooth edges, not heavy nor glued or this new stupid peg method or this new screw looking mechanism. the small appliances are just cheap shit plastic, especially the new toasters. just cheap base materials are used any more in construction. the damn furniture costs are more in the shipping costs, cause it all weighs so damn much. try to return a media center if you don't like it. the retailer will just say it costs more to ship back than it cost to buy. american made antiques sure were fine back in the day. even picture frame making was a craft in america. potters, weavers, glass blowers we use to respect these professions now they are the butt of all jokes. we have just lost our soul to china and cheap manufacturing. oh yeah, forgot about IKEA. i have never in my life experienced shopping HELL in that ass backwards store. to push onto the american public that this is the new shopping experience. pleeeeaze. now that is a dumb down american experience. christ i will never go into one of those stores ever again and buy a DIY piece of crap furniture.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 16:10 | 689301 Dingleberry Jones
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Apparently the taste for domesticity has destroyed your taste for producing posts with legibility.  Capitalization, punctuation, and most importantly, usage of paragraphs is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your future cooperation.

FWIW, I agree with your premise that cheaply manufactured and designed products go the way of the dinosaur. They are terrible.


Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:11 | 689376 Careless Whisper
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caps + paragraphs = waste of time. bold worthy.


Sun, 10/31/2010 - 18:45 | 689454 kathy.chamberli...
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im junking you, cause your judging me.

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:33 | 690440 Dingleberry Jones
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Sun, 10/31/2010 - 18:57 | 689475 traderjoe
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"Thanks for your future cooperation." - who died and made you lord of readability of posts? Don't like 'em, skip past. Easy to do. Diversity of opinion and style is good. 

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:35 | 690451 Dingleberry Jones
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Paragraphs and caps were invented for a reason. It helps people read. It's one giant rumbling run-on rant.

Diversity of opinion and style is good. Being able to read the actual ideas underlying is better.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:00 | 689366 trav7777
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i don't buy that shit.

Ethan Allen or Bloomies, thanks.  A lot of shit made in america; it's bulletproof.  I have a couple things from France and Italy too; they are very nice but not as solid.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:09 | 689373 Dingleberry Jones
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I *think* that you are agreeing with her, actually. I think her point was that chinese stuff is pure crap.

American made stuff is awesome. Agree about Ethan Allen. Also, I do have some awesome Amish stuff. You can find quality, and sometimes don't have to pay through the nose for it.

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