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Government Infiltrates Terror Cells Time and Again ... But Fails to Stop Attacks

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It's amazing how governments infiltrate terror cells time and again, but then fail to actually stop the attacks.

London

The Guardian noted on February 13th:

A remark from the sentencing judge that Babar "began co-operating even before his arrest", has raised the possibility, supported by other circumstantial evidence obtained by the Guardian, that he may have been an informant for the US government before his detention by the FBI in April 2004.

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Having reviewed the court transcript himself, bereaved father Graham Foulkes said: "There's a hint from one or two of the sentences [in the transcript] that do strongly suggest [Babar's] co-operation was going well beyond his official arrest. And it looks as if the Americans may well have known in detail what Babar was up to in Pakistan [at the time] and that is a very, very serious matter."

When judge Marrero's office was asked to clarify the remarks, his office declined to comment. The US attorney's office declined to comment on whether Babar had been working with US agencies before his arrest.

The law enforcement officer involved in Babar's arrest and debriefing also refused to discuss the allegations.

Indeed, this short Fox news interview with terrorism expert and former prosecutor for the Justice Department shows that the bombing "mastermind" was a British intelligence agent (or read the transcript here). And see confirming story here.

An MSNBC translator confirms that claim of responsibility by Al-Qaeda was a fake. And see this regarding the unreliability of the translation.

This article from the Independent raises the question of whether attackers were "arrested and then released" while remaining under close observation by the government".

Times Online reports that the police were "bugging" the car of the mastermind of the bombings.

And apparently Israel was warned ahead of the blasts (confirmed here).

Madrid

BBC reported in 2004:

 

The Spanish interior ministry says it is investigating reports that two suspects in the 11 March Madrid train bombings were police informants.

The move came after Spain's El Mundo newspaper said Moroccan Rafa Zuher and Spaniard Jose Emilio Suarez had been in contact with police before the attacks.

The men are suspected of providing dynamite for the attacks, which killed 191 people and injured more than 2,000.

The paper said they passed on details about drug deals and other crimes.

 

New York: 1993

For example, the FBI had penetrated the cell which carried out the 1993 world trade center bombing, but had -- at the last minute -- canceled the plan to have its FBI infiltrator substitute fake powder for real explosives, against the infiltrator's strong wishes (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view)?

And see this TV news report:


 

 

New York: 2001

The government had also infiltrated the 9/11 terror cell:

  • According to the large French newspaper Le Monde, the intelligence services of America's close ally France and of other governments had infiltrated the highest levels of Al-Qaeda's camps, and actually listened to the hijackers' debates about which airlines' planes should be hijacked, and allied intelligence services also intercepted phone conversations between Al-Qaeda members regarding the attacks
  • The National Security Agency and the FBI were each independently listening in on the phone calls between the supposed mastermind of the attacks and the lead hijacker. Indeed, the FBI built its own antenna in Madagascar specifically to listen in on the mastermind's phone calls
  • According to various sources, on the day before 9/11, the mastermind told the lead hijacker "tomorrow is zero hour" and gave final approval for the attacks. The NSA intercepted the message that day and the FBI was likely also monitoring the mastermind's phone calls
  • According to the Sunday Herald, two days before 9/11, Bin Laden called his stepmother and told her "In two days, you're going to hear big news and you're not going to hear from me for a while.” U.S. officials later told CNN that “in recent years they've been able to monitor some of bin Laden's telephone communications with his [step]mother. Bin Laden at the time was using a satellite telephone, and the signals were intercepted and sometimes recorded." Indeed, before 9/11, to impress important visitors, NSA analysts would occasionally play audio tapes of bin Laden talking to his stepmother.
  • And according to CBS News, at 9:53 a.m on 9/11, just 15 minutes after the hijacked plane had hit the Pentagon, "the National Security Agency, which monitors communications worldwide, intercepted a phone call from one of Osama bin Laden's operatives in Afghanistan to a phone number in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia", and secretary of Defense Rumsfeld learned about the intercepted phone call in real-time (if the NSA monitored and transcribed phone calls in real-time on 9/11, that implies that it did so in the months leading up to 9/11 as well)

What About the Terror Arrests?

But what about the arrests which have been made of would-be terrorists? Doesn't that show that governments do sometimes catch the bad guys?

Maybe ... but:

  • Former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke said:

A lot of the cases after 9/11 were manufactured or enormously exaggerated and were announced with great trumpets by the attorney general and the FBI director so that we felt that they were doing something when, in fact, what they were doing was not helpful, not relevant, not needed.

  • The Washington Post ran a story about one alleged threat entitled "Was it a terror sting or entrapment?", showing that the U.S. government lent material support to the wanna-be terrorists, and put violent ideas in their heads
  • There are numerous other instances of entrapment of peaceful or mentally incompetent people who are then arrested as "terrorists". For example, the "mastermind" of the terrorism plot was a self-confessed "pothead" , another was a crackhead, and that they were all semi-retarded. And see this, this and this

So while there are a lot of loud announcements about catching terrorists, most of the convictions are optics without substance.

 


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Sat, 02/26/2011 - 14:10 | Link to Comment VyseLegendaire
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9/11 truth is a useless issue.  It doesn't matter whether the government actively staged or was incapable of preventing the attacks.  Either way, the government is a useless entity. 

 

In fact, its far more nefarious to have evidence that the government cannot protect you no matter who runs it, than to think that replacing its goons will solve the issue. 

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 11:57 | Link to Comment Badabing
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Love to see Machiavelli 101 used on the sheeple.

Divide and conquer.

 

Conspiracy wackjob,

Trouther pussy,

Pigeon holed into a slot just because shit don’t add up.

 

We must not forget the first lesson in this class is,

Know your enemy!    

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 12:58 | Link to Comment falak pema
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Perfect profile : on the beach as you fire away on your magnificent Ipad game. You will be the Machiavelli of the animated game on your screen, it's a scream when you can't tell reality from dream.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 10:29 | Link to Comment Bitch Tits
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The majority of people are hard-working and peace-loving.

The government, a party of power-mad parasites with no life skills, needs money to sustain itself.

The government starts trouble so the populace will live in fear and will therefore approve boatloads of wealth transfers from their own pockets to the pockets of those in government, who then pay off their predatory enablers in big business with laws allowing them to rape and pillage the populace.

The populace will then cry "thievery", at which time the government will break into their house, beat them up, and steal all their money, to teach them a lesson about real "thievery". Then the populace is willing to give even more money for "protection" and the cycle goes on and on.

Is that about right?

 

 

 

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 09:28 | Link to Comment Fíréan
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I was amazed many years ago when it was revealed that the BCCI bank which was being used for "terrorist" funding was also used by the CIA ( or persons employed therein). That there was any interaction between the funds of both these clients  of the bank was never investigated, or at least not reported in the public domain.

Mon, 02/28/2011 - 01:30 | Link to Comment Money Squid
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Actually, NBC news investigated and reported http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVXroOSAqMU&feature=related

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 10:01 | Link to Comment chindit13
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Wow, and the Mafia, IBM, and my cousin Joey have used Citibank over the years.  I never knew my cousin Joey, as well as Thomas Watson, were Mafia.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 07:44 | Link to Comment Bagbalm
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Ever see the StarTrek movie where the Klingon gunner is told ro disable the Federation starship with a shot into its engines?

He lets loose one shot and instead of crippling it the whole ship explodes into a zillion burning fragments. He shrugs and says - "Luckey shot."

I've always figured the 911 was a similar 'oops'. They probably figured a few hundred dead and a burned out floor or two in the buildings. About the same carnage as the London bombings or the Spanish rail nombings. Big enough to terrorize, but not wreck the economy, ya know? I can just see them watching on TV and saying: "Son-of-a-bitch! Who knew?" when they collapsed...

Lucky shot.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 09:25 | Link to Comment Fíréan
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were there not a bunch of people arrested becuase they were seen celebrating whe the buildings came down.Only to be released not much later when it transpired that they were agents from another country, normally  friendly to the USA.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 07:10 | Link to Comment Treeplanter
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Have to agree with Jorge for once.  It looks like the ATF got caught selling guns to the Mex cartels to further their myth that the cartel gets most of their weapons from USA gun shops.  You know these dumb Mexicans could never connect with overseas criminal networks and buy weapons wholesale.  Don't worry, Homeland Security is on the job.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 04:45 | Link to Comment falak pema
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To be or not to be a 9/11 conspiracy theorist....that is the question of this debate within the debate. I'm amazed that this piece of current US history is still so passionate. It reminds me of that past debate ..."Who killed JFK?"... History is such a repeat on these enigmatic questions.

Reverting to the debate on 9/11, I don't understand which of the 'political' scenarios the conspiracy people are pointing to, assuming that the hard evidence at the site shows that those structures collapsed as a result of 'extraneous' factors. Here are the options as I see them :

The US admin. knew AQ, external terrorist group on their security radar, were planning this coup. They merely profited from it to plant, enhance, damage fall-out subsequently using it to fuel the 'great world terror campaign a la Iraq' with Rumsfeld/Cheney as lead hawks. They may even have given signals to AQ that they didn't take them seriously to make them even more determined to go through with it. Open door policy through false flag of 'nobody would dare do that to us'.

2°  They masterminded and stage managed the whole thing. AQ is their surrogate front playing their own NWO game. Which makes Ben Laden a curious monkey now confined to scratching his 'family jewels' somewhere in Kafiristan. A latter day Noriega, double-triple crossed by his ex-paymaster...? Anyways...

9/11 was a 'joint-venture', one off deal, between ideological enemies. A bit like the Stalin-Ribbentrop alliance in 1939. "We scratch each other's backs to carve up Poland. But after that it's ...every man for himself on each side of the divide...and no crossing the red dividing line". (Big pipe dream as history always proves...as in this case study scenario...the USA in this scenario came looking for ex-partner into his very Afghan lair).

AQ was/is what it says it is. And the NWO fell a victim of it's own particular hubris. No conspiracy theory. Thereby being obliged to react massively, feeding the confrontational spiral, like a maddened Caesar defending his legions. As for the proof of abnormal structural failure...it's not linked to spec-ops type dirty games. 

I'd don't see any other scenarios. I'd love to know which one the 'Guy Fawkes' aficionados are pointing to. 

 

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 04:44 | Link to Comment Miss anthrope
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ahhhhhhhhhhhh..... those days before I took the red pill. Project Mayhem is alive in my heart and soul now.... they're going down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HII6prY06JQ

"Roll out those lazy crazy hazy days of summer

those days of soda and pretzel and beer

roll out those lazy crazy hazy days of summer

you'll wish that summer could always be here"

 

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 02:37 | Link to Comment Money Squid
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GW - ever read the book The Watchers - The Rise of America's Surveillance State? Talks about Army operation Able Danger where in the early days of the internet an Army team found proof of foreign terrorist cells were in the US and were operational, not just sleeping. Armed with this critical information the leader of Able Danger was ordered to destroy all of the information or face charges. Link to wikipedai page on able danger http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger

Great book.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 02:55 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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Good time to look in to one of these jobs maybe

http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/...

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 11:32 | Link to Comment New_Meat
Sat, 02/26/2011 - 00:49 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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I agree that a lot of "terrorist busts" are, considering the hype surrounding them, bullshit...as an example, the 20 year Saudi arrested in Lubbock, Texas. Yes, he was obtaining materials that no doubt, were likely intended to manufacture a reasonably small (15 lbs.) quantity of Picric Acid. Picric Acid is a high explosive that has a higher velocity than TNT (the 1.0 standard velocities of explosives are ranked by), and is very brissant (shattering effect). But, his intended targets....nuclear plants and dams...give me a break! First, trying to sneak in 15 lbs, of explosives into a nuclear plant is virtually impossible. One, you would have to work there just to have access, get through the multi-cell security system, and then plant your explosives. There is no access to the core of an operating nuclear plant.....you would die from neutron bombardment...and say you are the Jihad type and do not mind dying, well, the core access portals are electrically interlocked from the control room Forget it. Most every critical system outside the core is redundant, and to make a highly brissant explosive do its work, it either has to be dimensionally shaped, or is has to be tamped. Dams....dams are massive structures, 15 lbs, of Picric Acid is not going to do anything against such structures. Ok...he also wanted to do malls and stuff...yes, 15 lbs. of PA would be devastating in those circumstances, especially if wrapped with a shrapnel-producing material. This guy desreves to be wrapped up....not because he did reasearch on explosives on the Internet (legal) not because he bought the binary materials (Sulphuric acid, phenol, etc) - legal, but because of his writings of what he intended to do with it. The totality of the evidence...all the fore mention put together, is his death knell. What is odd to me is why he did not manufacture his own acids...easy to do, and use Aspirins instead of phenol. Then, if he had kept his ravings off his Facebook page, he probably would have gone undetected...luckily, he did not. But, my point is how the powers-that-be champion the capture of a young fool who made himself so obvious, a freight company caught him.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 05:15 | Link to Comment fajensen
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That is why the terrorists need "our" help to succeed: They are retarded snot-rollers and navel-defluffers the lot of them!

Why piss about with shitty home-cooked explosives and even more dodgy improvised detonators when one can relatively easily obtain a license and buy the real stuff, that works?

Here in Denmark it is a weeks course, costing about DKK 30,000 or you could join the home defense and they will teach you demolition for free - which can then be turned into a license on request for a small fee.

Left to their own, "the underpant bomber", the "basmati flour bombing" and the doctors who were too retarded to use O2 or NO2 in their "explosive petrol mix" at Manchester Airport is about the pinnacle of achievement (The doctors would have killed more infidels in their day-job with such a limited knowledge of Chemistry that they displayed as terrorists).

All of the damn terrorist were "here" because "we" let them in. Not a single one was an illegal immigrant. It is not too far to imagine, imo, that those that succeeded did so because they got help. There would be no "war on terrorism" and no "anti-terror" laws if we did not have decent terrorists to demonstrate the need for such draconian law enforcement. Our government is against us - and we are paying for it too!

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 01:59 | Link to Comment BigDuke6
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'Dams....dams are massive structures'

Are you stoned?

Its ok if you are... just admit it.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 02:30 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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BTW...kiss my fucking ass, pussy.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 17:15 | Link to Comment BigDuke6
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Thought i saw a kindred spirit ,maaaannn, it was saturday night

No need for the bad vibes.

;)

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 11:47 | Link to Comment Crumbles
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ROTFLMAO - Thanks

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 02:06 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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Not stoned, just making sure the kids here understand reality.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 00:18 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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GW, never under estimate a ZH viewer/poster.

my-tray-ah is not going to happen. Citing yesterdays news will not build followers. Kindly elaborate on your article posting.

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 23:52 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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I've seen Al Qaeda.  I've seen the Taliban.  We are much worse than Al Qaeda and The Taliban.  Remember John Lithgow's character in Cliffhanger the movie: "Kill a few dozen, you're a mass murderer, kill thousands and you're a conqueror." 

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 23:47 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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A lot of bullshit with a lot of bogus sources.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 10:00 | Link to Comment chindit13
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Got this from the internet, so it must be true.....

"The blogger known as 'George Washington' has a degree in Sophistry from Alex Jones College of Advanced International Fantasies."

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 04:16 | Link to Comment CPL
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See you in a couple of months, this won't be here to discuss the fact, enjoy where you live

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 22:02 | Link to Comment robobbob
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good work GW

but you're still talking how

not who

TPTB is not actionable information

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 22:18 | Link to Comment George Washington
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Robo,

If I named names, would anyone prosecute?

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 04:08 | Link to Comment CPL
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No they wouldn't George.

 

But justice would eventually be served.  Sorry about that.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 01:56 | Link to Comment serotonindumptruck
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If I may add to your cynical theme:

Prosecuting a criminal complaint in this matter does not preclude the possibility that a lowly District judge will dismiss the complaint as frivolous and without merit.

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 21:34 | Link to Comment Missing_Link
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For the life of me, I can't understand what this rambling lunatic (who has somehow adopted the name of George Washington, a warrior who shared very few of his values) is still doing on Zero Hedge.

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 22:12 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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from what i hear, the original gw wasn't just a warrior.  he was a pretty good peaceior too.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 04:06 | Link to Comment CPL
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lolwut?

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 22:11 | Link to Comment nmewn
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"For the life of me, I can't understand what this rambling lunatic (who has somehow adopted the name of George Washington, a warrior who shared very few of his values) is still doing on Zero Hedge."

Thought about that too.

The more I think about it, it's just to drive traffic to his obscure website.

But...free speech is free speech...(and free advertisement...LOL) in the end, I have no problem with it.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 04:05 | Link to Comment CPL
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Nothing is free, everything has a cost kid.

http://www.defencetalk.com/militants-blow-up-nato-tankers-32372/

My least favorite story of the day.  Guess what US, Canuck and Brit snowflakes are going to be killed by goat herders.  Mainly because the "enemy" know how to live with out power.

 

Bang bang bang ....let's see what suburbanaite shit lives long enough shall we...can't be overseas without a letter back home.    Used to sell this crap for Oracle, Microsoft and Apple.  Probably kiled more people while selling crap before serving as 'engineering'.  I recommend anything that you can use up close.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment Crumbles
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Yeah, I junked you as "just another troll" - typical non-speller with no concept that a lack of proofreading skills marks you as an instant idiot at best.  "Kiled more people" ... almost as poor as using "there" for "their" which seems to be the most common characteristic of late. 

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 01:03 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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I don't get it nmewn. You are different then what I had grown to love.

Rambling lunatic? I'm disappointed.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 07:50 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Sometimes, as in love and in life, there is disappointment.

For you I will explain...because we were once in love.

Truthers have lost all credibility because they themselves did not police their own "lunatics" within their cadre.

Anyone who looked for or who presented evidence of, what was being said outside it's core meme of "it's a conspiracy" is/was criticized, called a plant or an idiot...without any presentation to back it up.

Thus, the moonbats within were protected, instead of being challenged by other truthers to "put up or shut up" for the larger cause of credibility which should be the ultimate goal of any investigation.

It has become a group think hodgepodge of competing theories...the damage donewas not done by those outside the cadre looking in on it to see if there was any there there (I was one at one point, surprise...LOL)...it came from within by the cadre itself by not keeping a watchful eye on actual evidence, the running with and the protection of, every story that came across the transom.

Makes for great yellow journalism...not much on facts though...similar to the Gulf seabed collapsing, exposing magma to cool seawater and the earth splitting in half...or fish kills in NJ when the gulfstream swings weatward around NC...LOL.

Now comes accountability for what has been produced.

Know this my love, what we once shared will always be a part of me ;-) 

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 13:15 | Link to Comment Magic Mamaliga
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"Truthers have lost all credibility because they themselves did not police their own "lunatics" within their cadre."

I know my opinion is just that, an opinion, and one of many, but this cat has a point... 

GW, always a good read, generally contains "he said, she said" qualities.  To me, it is thought provoking, but I wouldn't count it as the gospel i'd point anyone to for an awakening to today's situation because it lacks credibility in the average person's eyes.  If there were a cohesive movement aimed at alerting the masses to their true, inherent potential for REAL FREEDOM, this method of communication is mainly caustic, and would have to be avoided for mass consumption.  It tends toward driving people further into their prevailing ideologies, I've passed his articles around and say this from experience.  To someone informed, GW's writings are mosty "matter of fact" in that the informed can acknowledge that the order of things is twisted and connect the dots, but "normal people" do not even see that things are twisted beyond the notion that "something ain't right".  What meaningful impact can these writings have if all they serve to do is reveal that we, the informed, have been right all along, when we already know, that what we know to be true, is indeed true?  Credibility for any movement is important and NMEWN is merely pointing out that it should be held above all things in the pursuit of revealing the ugly truth and the alternative.  I don't know NMEWN's intentions, but I hope that the truth becomes know by all and everyone realizes that REAL FREEDOM is theirs alone and doesn't come from food-stamps, government security blankets, or social "security".  The packaging of that message would have to be well thought out to gain broad consent.  NMEWN has a valid point and his use of words should not be allowed to foster doubt towards it.

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 12:32 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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I imagine a lot of the competing theories were "manufactured" - i.e., truth is never in a vacuum. It's up to the People to listen, then discern. Then listen again.

Deeply appreciate the response. For some reason my brain couldn't make it that far. Merci, mon amour. ;-)

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 17:26 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Wings,

Shhh...It's alright, nous parlerons de cela plus mon amour ;-)

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 21:20 | Link to Comment mynhair
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So, ODummer is a tool.  Thank you for proving it, GW.

(Like I needed help.)

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 02:23 | Link to Comment penisouraus erecti
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LOL - it was such a secret

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 21:12 | Link to Comment johnQpublic
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one

last

time

 

 

we are one shape shifting reptilian handing out ameros at roswell away from every conspiracy theory known to man being proven true

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 23:15 | Link to Comment Moe Howard
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<HELP> for explanation

Sat, 02/26/2011 - 04:48 | Link to Comment Miss anthrope
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First, go watch Fight Club 10 times........ then come back for further instructions

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 20:59 | Link to Comment umop episdn
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"The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, ‘just to keep people frightened’."

So sayeth George Orwell in 1984. It must have appealed to TPTB. Too bad we have the internets.

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 22:09 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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the film "brazil", about 1985, made similar points.  the original release more so than the director's cut.  de niro wields a mean yankee screwdriver.

Fri, 02/25/2011 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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anyone care to comment on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

 

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