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Government Responds to Nuclear Accident by Trying to Raise Acceptable Radiation Levels and Pretending that Radiation is Good For Us

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Sat, 04/02/2011 - 23:57 | 1129170 European American
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And to think I moved to Washington State (because of the prevailing winds/jet stream) in the event that there was a nuclear disaster, stateside. "In Coming!"

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:14 | 1128608 man_ overboard
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Shoot the messenger!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 21:26 | 1115224 JLee2027
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George, The Ann Coulter piece was a spoof you idiot. Of course none of them read to the last lines which said:


But in the case of radiation, the media have Americans convinced that the minutest amount is always deadly. 

Although reporters love to issue sensationalized reports about the danger from Japan's nuclear reactors, remember that, so far, thousands have died only because of Mother Nature. And the survivors may outlive all of us over here in hermetically sealed, radiation-free America. 


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 21:00 | 1115130 john2011neb
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Is Peter Lyons a liar?  Did he go to Fukushima and sample the soil?  If I were a betting man I would have to say he doesn't even know how to spell Fukushima.  Why did he say that?  First of all he is using data from TEPCO regarding the plutonium results TEPCO published yesterday, even though they apparently had the results for more a week, maybe longer.  I still haven't seen any specific numbers regarding the amount of plutonium, just that TEPCO says it's naturally occuring plutonium and it's good for you.

Now, TEPCO may be the nicest guys in the world, they seem nice and calm even while a nuclear power plant is in meltdown.  Bless their hearts.  But we all know when an accident of this magnitude occurs the responsible party cannot be the source of the figures.  All of this could be solved quickly with a LIVE WEB CAM at the site showing all the things happening in real time.  The workers working.  The reactors, how they look, the pools, the fuel, the pipes, the leaks, the water leaking into the sea or not.  In this day and age there is no reason whatsover to not have a LIVE FEED from the site other than wanting to hide something.  Who would want to hide a nuclear power plant accident?  I don't know, but I would have to say you can't rely on any information from TEPCO since they won't provide the LIVE FEED 3 weeks into the accident.  TEPCO says....TEPCO says...Japanese government says TEPCO says...US says TEPCO says...hmmm.  I don't know, it just doesn't seem very reliable at all and really shady seeing how embryos and babies are living within ranges of daily radiation doses that equal a 3 pack a day smoker, probably much worse since those numbers are TEPCO's. 

Peter Lyons is a liar.  I can prove it.  He never went to Fukushima and sampled any soil himself.  He is selling nuclear power plants so he can get even more huge bonuses all paid for by your tax dollars.  Right?  Isn't that the truth?  If I were a betting man I'd have to say Peter Lyons should be named Peter's Lyin'.

I hope I'm wrong and I encourage Peter to explain.  Maybe I'll call him, or send him an email.  Maybe he did go there.  Maybe he cares about people and not profits.  Maybe he and his family can go to Fukushima as an example for all of us - to show us all how to live with the safe plutonium.  That's when I will trust him again.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 20:21 | 1115088 Dr. Gonzo
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When the average life span of a human starts to be age 40 that will be a normal varient too...and help make social security and medicare whole again.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:17 | 1114895 High Plains Drifter
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german earthquake. is germany next?

discussion about the japanese earthquake and other matters . also suspicious homeland security exercise slated for may of this year.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 19:04 | 1114865 falak pema
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radiation exposure will make you tougher. You owe it to yourself. Soon we will have radiation training tours to Fukushima on a crescendo basis. So that you can immunize yourself to higher levels. It'll be mandatory for boy scouts in the years to come. "Your country needs you to go to Fukushima" posters will appear. It will tell who will survive best as the world goes plutonium bred. Fukushima will be the most visited place in the future. Learning to become 33 dan in radiation exposure the highest level for Darwinian survival prize.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 17:44 | 1128536 lotsasynapses
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Some imagination, young man!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:43 | 1114782 geekgrrl
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Thanks GW.

There's an ongoing and sophisticated disinformation campaign to convince us that toxic waste is good for us. It's yet another toxic waste disposal sales job. And it's one of those fabled "public-private partnerships," between industry and governments. One prime example in this campaign is a commentary published last year in the journal Dose-Response.

Commentary on Using LNT for Radiation Protection and Risk Assessment (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2939692/)

The author, Jerry Cuttler, is a "utilities consultant" at the firm Cuttler and Associates in Mississauga, ON, Canada. If you read the paper, you'll see how sophisticated the arguments are, carefully using small datasets and then making huge inferences about supposed beneficial effects of radiation exposure. Take particular notice that he equates external exposure and internal exposure implicitly. He refers to areas of the Earth with natural high background radiation, claiming there is evidence of "beneficial effects" of these high exposures, but he amazingly fails to address the distinction between radiation exposure and ingestion or inhalation of radioactive particles. Similarly, he uses lower than expected mortality in beta and gamma irradiated fruit flies as evidence that "radiation is good for us," but again, radiation exposure falls off as 1/r^2 and so internal versus external radiation is simply not comparable.

Another editorial by the same author. "Editorial: Is Airport Body-Scan Radiation a Health Risk?" (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3057632/)

This guy just loves radiation. And you can absolutely believe his risk figures. Utility consultants are practically actuaries, and did you know they are also radiobiology experts? It's true!

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:38 | 1114762 Pseudo Anonym
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The government just helped cover up how bad things were, used claims of national security to keep everything in the dark

ehm, you mean like this:


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:38 | 1114741 10kby2k
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If the worst were to happen and the nuclear industry abandoned......the cost in $$$$ is impossible for me to comprehend. 

Our financial future is greatly dictated by the use of nuclear energy, this cover up is really shitty PR for nuclear sentiment.  They should just come clean and vow to never let it happen again. By acting so devious they are feeding the anti-nuclear movement.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:59 | 1114841 falak pema
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If they acted clean it would be worse than worse case scenario...that's why they hide.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:28 | 1114726 DNB-sore
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residential and commercial buidings falling on the birds?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:22 | 1114708 Mike Hunt III
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Wind power accounts for a very small percentage of bird deaths. Leading cause of bird deaths is house cats, followed by residential and commercial buildings if memory serves.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:20 | 1114707 DNB-sore
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I am half-way life of 87 ;)

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:16 | 1114689 Buck Johnson
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If the EPA and other groups in the US are doing this, it must mean that the situation in Japan is more dangerous than what they are letting on.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:11 | 1114663 geno-econ
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One of the greatest radiation threats to young children is to come in close contact for extended periods of time with older men and grandfathers who have been seeded with radiation as treatment for prostate cancer. The medical profession and pharmaceutical firms selling medical radioisotopes are aware of this risk , but are silent as are government regulators. Yes, sitting on your grandfathers lap is dangerous, especially to young girls' reproductive organs which could cause deformaties and worse in later years.   A great deal of research is required with a greater incidence of prostate cancer and radiation seeding. At a minimum, warnings are appropriate. 

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:55 | 1114605 Can2001
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plutonium is good for you. Drink a cup of rum with this and  feel like charlie sheen...

No prob, says an eu member, which had an good  cancer dose @ 87

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:28 | 1114489 DNB-sore
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Anyone around that buyed some lasting food like rice, pasta's, boullion for soup (not the metal-like) beans and other stuff? Do not forget your vitamines and do not forget your family if they have no clue


better save then sorry

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:08 | 1114652 PulauHantu29
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Yes, I loaded up with pre-radiation seaweed, canned salmon, sardines, and loads of dried beans.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:29 | 1114483 Popo
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The takeaway is this: All of us should remain vigilant and mobile. Do not, under any circumstances purchase real estate. Be prepared to get out of Dodge within a few weeks notice. No one will protect your interests but you. We are becoming a mobile society not just because of technology -- but because of survival.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:23 | 1114459 PulauHantu29
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Japan renames coastal highway to "Plutonium Highway."

it runs parallel to "Tsunami Highway."

Sometimes names are easier to remember then numbers for these types of things.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:42 | 1114280 Robslob
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Clearly there are just too many of us and therefore due to our ignorance and or trust in the government we should be eradicated.



Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:37 | 1114246 TheClub55
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Nuke power is not risk free (nor any power source)... I'll take risks of melt down (BTW I currently live w/in 25 mls of Nuke Plant), they can add two more reactors if lowers my AC bill in the summer and keep my tunes playing. Plus, coal is not the answer, I've read that the coal pollution is estimated to kill 40k people a year... once again power is not risk free but I like lights and TV. Other sources - wind is ugl,y kills tons of birds and produces squat, solar talk about pollution in the production stage (most are built in china so we don't care), an on and on.

At the in of the day, mother nature will have killed more people (some 10k) with the earth quake and tsunami that the mostly contained meltdown. Also, lets not forget the good ol USA exploded Nuke Bombs in above ground NV and the pacific... and were still here.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:09 | 1114660 Can2001
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and thx for the underground bombs ....and so overgrounds between 60's and 80' ...thats not the only reason that we  have so an great nonnatural radiation worldwide....no prob , you cant smell it .

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 18:04 | 1114633 Can2001
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dont forget the uranium bombs in kosovo...iraq , against the afghany and lybia...

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:40 | 1114545 BigJim
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Apparently, all that fallout damaged people's understanding of the apostrophe, so I wouldn't say it was entirely harmless.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:34 | 1114221 Sudden Debt
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THOSE ARE NOT CONSPIRACIES!! only good idea's...


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:28 | 1114174 whisperin
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So GW, what's stopping non EPA entities from taking their own readings and publihing them?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:41 | 1114276 Cistercian
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 Nothing.But unless you have a geiger counter now it will take months to get one.SOLD OUT.

  For what it's worth...the counts are up here in asheville,nc.Not a lot, just some.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:23 | 1114137 Bastiat
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I joked yesterday that this would cause actuaries to revise their mortality tables and thus make all the pension funds solvent.  Problem is it doesn't quite work that way.  Small amounts of radiation take time to kill--boomers are running out of time anyway.  The young and unborn will suffer the most, I'm afraid.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:55 | 1113982 SqueekyFromm
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Maybe this is a covert way to bump off the Baby Boomers before they overtly bankrupt Social Security and Medicare??? I read somewhere that some states were lowering cigarette taxes, and that is the first thing I thought. You know, work us to death, and then bump us off before we have time to run up 20 years in retirement. Planned obsolescence for humans.

Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter 

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:33 | 1114223 gina distrusts gov
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There is a antibiotic restraint bacterium in the north west  advancing east and south that has a 30-40% fatality rate it seems to be hitting the nursing homes and elderly  especially hard. I am wondering if susceptibility to infection has any correlation with getting a flue shot?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:59 | 1114372 stickyfingers
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I am wondering if susceptibility to infection has any correlation with getting a flu shot?

Or a Social Security check?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:26 | 1114081 Matte_Black
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503 bad gateway. dupe. junk away.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:12 | 1114070 Matte_Black
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I would say there are plenty who would not argue otherwise, Squeak.

I'm sure you've seen those theorys claiming that the 'illuminati' have decided it is a moral imperative that they reduce the population of this planet in order to save the human race, and that it is their chosen few plus their human chattel that will usher in the new Luciferian age.

Possibly, it is all true. But even if it is true, they have completely fucked up and destroyed that which they wished to hoard unless they plan to reduce the population all the way down to a hundred thousand or so.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:09 | 1114058 falak pema
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You have understood Nietzsche like few of your age. It's time the government did also...

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:53 | 1113975 franzpick
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...the EPA is considering drastically raising the amount of allowable radiation in food, water and the environment.

... in California on Friday, the first ship to reach the Port of Long Beach since Japan’s earthquake was boarded and scanned for radiation by Coast Guard and federal customs officials before being allowed to dock.

So, will the EPA now tell the Coast Guard how much to upwardly revise the permissable ship radiation limits in use before 3/11? 

And, let's see our EPA cabal, or some of our other federal and international enforcers, attempt to deny shipping companies the right to boycott the ports of Tokyo and Yokohama, or refuse to reload containers emptied north of Tokyo, or refuse to schedule ships docked or in the vicinity of Tokyo/Yokohama within the last 2 weeks, as such companies have already started to do.

Maritime logistic changes designed to avoid ship contamination are spreading faster and farther than is the radiation; the agency cover-up crowd will be hard pressed to prevent public perception of the degree to which shipping companies are going to avoid damage from a genie already out of the bottle:


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 16:06 | 1114038 falak pema
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When faced with adversity it is normal that the norms change. As in this new reality the tough get going and the feeble get weeded out. Such is nature's law, after man's folly alike God's ire falls on the real world. I think the governments realize that, as they consider themselves to be the natural expression of the strong. It is their inevitable message to the weak.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:42 | 1113931 Bicycle Repairman
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Can't have a little ole meltdown (or 4) stop progress.  The detection of any radiation related problems in the US must be stifled or explained away.

"The game plan now appears to be to protect government and the nuclear industry from “excessive costs”… at any cost."

That has always been the game plan.  If the true cost of a nuclear accident were included in the costing of these plants, they'd never get built.  That's why there are no nuclear accidents.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:38 | 1113921 mogul rider
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7 ears, 6 eyes, 30 toes is now the new normal

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:42 | 1113934 falak pema
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but how many donkers are in the new norm?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:38 | 1113916 knukles
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The End Is Not Near.
We're There.
Yes, Already Yet.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:30 | 1113885 notadouche
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One is either a Global Warming Denier or a Global Warming Liar.  I'd rather be the denier.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:41 | 1113925 Matte_Black
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One is either a Republican or a Democrat.

One is either a Kenynesian or Hayakian.

One is either a Socialist or a Capitalist.

One is either with me or against me.

But then, some just aren't.

America - love it or leave it.

Or don't.


Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:47 | 1113950 notadouche
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Well said.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:30 | 1113880 yabyum
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Thanks GW, If you think radiation is good for you look at Ann Coulter. The PTB, can not, and will not tell us the truth, it would cause panic in the streets...can't have that now can we?

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 17:41 | 1114558 BigJim
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A nearly 1000-fold increase for exposure to strontium-90

Makes you wonder if the experts have already got a fairly good idea what to expect from Fukushima.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:25 | 1113861 Cistercian
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 Great article GW.

Tue, 03/29/2011 - 15:02 | 1113763 Clamdigger
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It is unspeakably disheartening that this dystopian existence we've carved for ourselves has become equal parts Orwell, Huxley, and Rush's 2112. That shit was all supposed to have been fiction.

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