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Government Trying to Sweep Size of Oil Spill Under the Rug, Just As It Has Tried to Sweep the Economic Crisis, 9/11 and All Other Crises Under the Rug
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As I previously pointed out,
the Gulf oil spill is very similar to 9/11, because - in both cases -
the responders helping with rescue and clean up were getting sick ...
but were told they don't need any safety gear. And see this.
In addition, the government is keeping scientists away from "ground zero" of the oil spill and - for that reason - scientists cannot accurately measure the size of the oil spill.
BP has also tried to cover up its blunders by lowballing spill estimates, keeping reporters out of areas hardest hit by the oil (and see this, this, this and this) and threatening to arrest them if they try to take pictures (and see this), hiding dead birds and other sealife, and using dispersants to hide the amount of spilled oil (the dispersants are only worsening the damage caused by the spill).
The government is complicit in all of these cover-ups. Indeed, the Obama administration has made it a felony to get near enough to oiled wildlife and beaches to film them.
Similarly, the official 9/11 investigators were themselves largely denied funding, access
to the site and the evidence contained there, or even access to such
basic information as the blueprints for the world trade center.
Indeed,
just as the government and BP have consistently underestimated the
amount of oil gushing out of the Gulf, the blueprints for the World
Trade Center are still to this day being withheld from reporters and the public, and the government agency in charge of the investigation has grossly mischaracterized the structure of the buildings.
How
are we supposed to improve building safety regulations if the
blueprints are still being hidden from engineers and scientists
investigating the collapse of world trade center buildings 1, 2 and 7
on September 11th?
Moreover, as I previously pointed out:
9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:
Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.
[Moreover]:
- The chairs of both the 9/11 Commission and the Joint Inquiry of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees into 9/11 said that government "minders" obstructed the investigation into 9/11 by intimidating witnesses
- The 9/11 Commissioners concluded
that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission, and considered
recommending criminal charges for such false statements
- The
tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was
intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the
tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different
trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times
- Investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered
that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two
hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the
informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown
location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking
maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House. As the New
York Times notes:
Senator
Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate
Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering
up evidence . . .* * *
The accusation stems from the
Federal Bureau of Investigation's refusal to allow investigators for a
Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to
interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers. -
In
his book "Intelligence Matters," Mr. Graham, the co-chairman of the
Congressional inquiry with Representative Porter J. Goss, Republican of
Florida, said an F.B.I.
official wrote them in November 2002 and said "the administration would
not sanction a staff interview with the source.'' On Tuesday,
Mr. Graham called the letter "a smoking gun" and said, "The reason for
this cover-up goes right to the White House."
Of course, the government's response to the economic crisis, torture, the anthrax attacks, and just about every other crisis has been the same: try to sweep it under the rug.
It
almost seems as if the main activity of government these days is trying
to cover up criminal negligence and fraud ... instead of actually solving problems, firing - let alone convicting - the folks who caused the problems, or changing things enough to prevent future crises.
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conspiracy theorists are evil I tell you, they have so much to gain by being ridiculed by so many. GW told us not to pay any attention to them... do what he said damn it.
the oligarchy is not going to give up control unless at the point of a gun. No different than any other despotic system in history. Any system becomes corrupt after enough time as power becomes institutionalized.
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http://instantoilspill.com/?url=http://www.bp.com
As Charles Hugh Smith would prompt - who benefits?
I don't know exactly what happened in any of the events alluded to herein, but I do know I do not trust what Officialdom would have us to believe.
None of what has happened or is happening bodes well for the future nor will it end well.
Who benefits? I refer you to " The Grand Chessboard " by Z. Brzezinski. ( in reference to 9/11 )
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Nmewn - thanks for your thoughtful points about the events. I think, if you read david Ray Griffin's book, "The New Pearl Harbor" - you would have more understanding of all the questions that arise about your perceptions. David Ray Griffin does not write like some strident tinfoiler - he writes extremely well - he writes like he is an expert teacher and lecturer. His book could easily be as good as any New Yorker piece. He presents, in excruciating detail all the problems with the idea that demolitions couldn't have been placed. Who was in charge of security at WTC? Unbelievably, Bush's Brother. He also goes into excruciating details about the fact that the most of the phone calls from the planes simply were impossible at the height the planes were flying -most of them were not sky phones on plane- put "cell" phones - that's what the evidence sited records- their cell phone numbers - but simply not possibble, in 2001, to have calls lkike that from altitude. Also - the argument that with so many people needing to be involved - how could the truth not come out? Reasonable argument - but think that you could have said that about Bernie Madoff's scam too. What david Ray Griffin simply points out - is, suspend judgement for a few hours - stop coming at to from the viepoint that it "couldn't happen", and read the three hundred very detailed, very reasonable decription of all the things that DID happen. When you are done reading, you will be a lot more skeptical of official events. One troubling fact I remember was- the Bomb cleanup team, the same one who cleaned up after Oklahoma bombing- that same team had arrived a day before 911, and was "practicing" on the West Docks, for a large explosion. What you will see in this book - and multiple online sites, filled with pilots, architects, ex-militray - is that there are thousands and thousands of experienced people who have looked into this, and come away very very skeptical. I found the details FASCINATING. If you simply made it your goal to take the other side of the argument, you might be surprised. It is an intense pursuit. Oh, and the shiny side is worn to the outside - this forms a reflective pythagorean Mobius Nebula Amygdala, but everyone knows that.
http://www.theoildrum.com/pdf/theoildrum_6708.pdf
A good summary of the sealing.
What else can expect with J.P. Morgan owning 28% of all BP shares and Blackrock owning roughly 6%. Wall Street collectively among the TBTF own about 40% of the company.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/54343
http://www.bp.com/extendedsectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9010453&co...
Ah, at last, a group of highly educated scientific people. Good. I have a question:
Does it really matter if the shiney side is out?
+ 911
This is a good article which covers something that I have been thinking about for a long time. The building had several design flaws, most notably, that there was no structural concrete above the foundation. This design should never have been approved in the first place. This design was adopted to increase the floor space. There was very little attention paid to this since 9/11. The government is active in covering up this fact because an arm of the government, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, built and owned the building until just before 9/11. Their excuse was that when the building was built, they never thought jets would be built as big as the ones that flew into the building. This is bull. 747's were being designed when the WTC was being built. I suppose if a 707 were flown into the WTC it would have stood? I doubt it. It just goes to show the mal-investments that occur when the government tries doing what private industry should be doing. When the WTC was built, the city didn't even have the sewerage capacity to handle it for a couple decades.
As a boy visited the twin towers and was given a tour by one of the architects.Looking up at them from ground level I asked "what if a plane hits them and they fall down".I was assured that they would not fall over and that they were designed to take a 707 impact.The bigger planes flying then caused the man to add that in a worst case scenario with a huge fire, the buildings would pancake and the central core would still stand at a height of 10 to 30 stories amid the rubble.The central core was very, very strong I was told and would prevent the buildings from making a 1/4 mile long doom area from falling over.I was less worried then!
When I saw them come down I was horrified to remember that conversation from so long ago.I also thought the "truthers" were nuts.Then I saw WTC-7 footage.And realized the central core did not remain as I had been told it would.
Very sad to say, I do not subscribe to the government version of events.
The criminals responsible have not yet been brought to justice.
Gulf Photo Collection:
http://bit.ly/d6dBSS
Anyone had a look at September Clues?
http://www.septemberclues.info/
We may conclude that 9/11 was a dry run for The DH Spill...
9/11 is likely to have been a primer for energy shortages, yes, that's possible. But, I don't believe that the Spill was intentional. It was, however, a certainty. All big systems fail!
I know I'm slow, but more and more I have the impression that our "controllers", the government, TPTB, our bosses at work, etc treat us like babies, like parents who say things like, "You're too young to understand" or "I can't tell you, but trust me, I'm looking out for your best interests", "I had to lie to you to protect you" and so on. We are always the last to know anything, are forced to listen through the door to our parents' whispered conversations, sometimes mistaking the old man's snoring for an all night discussion of whether to throw us in the river and how to get the job done without raising suspicions.
Have you been "evaluated" recently at your job? Are you a good employee? Perhaps there were "concerns"? Yeah, we're always on the receiving end and get to be driven crazy by the sheer stupidity and cupidity of our controllers. A big component of today's crisis seems to be that we are treated like babies. When you're ten years old and completely dependent on your parents, you can't exactly tell them to go to hell.
Yes. I am not all that sure the Oil leak is purposeful - altho I have said before, it is certainly suspicious that Halliburton folks were on rig right before it blew - but I can say the response by this administration is simply bizarre. They are either completely tone deaf- or they want to lose power in November. It seems suicidal. This raises my suspicion that there are forces beyonf their control - other elements that are forcing their hands. There is no rational explanation for appearing to just sit back and watch - and appear to be covering for BP. Katrina just came across as incompetence- and didn't raise suspicions that they had purposely blown the levees - but the response to this defies reasonable explanation. Who benefits? The simple answer would be- probably Repugs, probably oil companies other than BP - so who might purposely blow a rig?
Where there are still a lot of people out there that are clueless about the 9-11 coup d'état I think this oil spill attack is going to play out much differently. Many southerners in the coastal areas are already very pissed off about being pushed around along with the destruction of their way of life and the direct threat to their lives as well. I have friends that understand the political situation with regard to 9-11 and others are apathetic just like they have been conditioned to be. Level of intelligence does not seem to be a factor. After all, an eight year old could master 9-11 basics in about 10 minutes. This oil attack is a lot different. People no longer rely as heavily on the globalist controlled MSM as they did in 2001. And as the story worsens more people will be better informed. If and when the mass evacuations begin there is going to be civil unrest.
Colonel Steven Butler, dean of the Defense Language School in Monterey California stated in a letter to the San Jose Mercury News that 9-11 was a government operation. He stated that these people (referring to the hijackers) were trained at our base. He said he didn’t know exactly what happened, but Mohamed Atta sat in my classroom.
For his honesty Colonel Butler was threatened with court marshal.
If anybody can offer me a reasonable explanation for the collapse of WTC 7, I'll go with the Al Qaeda terrorist attack theory. Of course, 9/11 was a terrorist attack, except the terrorists were INSIDE the US Govt. I was in denial about 9/11 for a long time. Once past it, it was actually very easy to see how preposterous was the claim that jet fuel fires on a few floors completely collapsed - at FREE FALL speed no less - two of the largest and strongest buildings in the world. Indeed, it was the first time in history that buildings utterly collapsed into DUST due to...umm...well...fire.
That said, I don't think - given the evidence that I have come across so far - this oil spill was an intentional "attack" by anyone. It's more of covering up the scale of the disaster.
GG –“That said, I don't think - given the evidence that I have come across so far - this oil spill was an intentional "attack" by anyone. It's more of covering up the scale of the disaster.”
There’s plenty of covering up alright but I base my position that this oil disaster was and continues to be an attack on the United States on many things for example:
1-BP gave its contractors including Halliburton and Transocean orders to do things that were against standard protocols apparently to make the failure occur. Some of this info was given by eyewitnesses and some came up in testimony at the Coast Guard Hearings.
This Mother Jones piece refers to an eyewitness from who was on the bridge prior to the sinking of the Deepwater Horizon rig.-
“The sailor, who Buzbee refuses to name for fear of costing him his job, was on the ship's bridge when Deepwater Horizon installation manager Jimmy Harrell, a top employee of rig owner Transocean, was speaking with someone in Houston via satellite phone. Buzbee told Mother Jones that, according to this witness account, Harrell was screaming, "Are you fucking happy? Are you fucking happy? The rig's on fire! I told you this was gonna happen… Testifying before the Coast Guard and MMS panel last month, Douglas Brown, the chief mechanic on the Deepwater Horizon, said that on the morning of the day that the rig exploded Harrell had a "skirmish" over drilling procedures during a meeting with BP's "company man," well site leader Robert Kaluza. "I remember the company man saying this is how it's going to be," Brown told the panel. As Harrell was leaving the meeting, according to Brown, "He pretty much grumbled, 'I guess that's what we have those pincers for,'" referring to the blowout preventer on the sea floor that is supposed to be the last resort to prevent a leak in the event of an emergency. The blowout preventer failed following the explosion on the rig, causing the massive spill.”
2- Mud logs were carried out by a third party (Schlumberger) in the case of the Deepwater Horizon. Hours before the Deepwater Horizon explosion, Schlumberger engineers detected an increase in gas pressures as BP sank a bore to an unprecedented depth of 35,055 feet below sea level. It is clear that their warnings about an impending disaster were ignored by BP supervisors and the evidence of BP’s criminal malfeasance sits in a secured room at Schlumberger’s offices in Tulsa.
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_6095.shtml
3-Just eight days before the Gulf blow-out, Halliburton also announced that it had agreed to buy Boots & Coots for $240.4 million. Boots & Coots are the world's largest oil-spill clean-up company. Goldman Sachs sold 44 per cent of its holdings in BP, a total of 4,680,822 shares worth the best part of $300 million, in the weeks before the Gulf disaster that sent BP shares plummeting. BP chief executive Tony Hayward is reported to have sold his £1.4 million shares in BP a month before the explosion. This coupled with other information is in my mind a strong indication that these interested parties had advance knowledge of a planned event.
4- Goldman Sachs holds controlling interests (with Apollo Management) in the Nalco Company which produces the hideously deadly oil dispersant Corexit which is reported to have been sprayed over land areas as well.
“…But what most people don't know is that the active ingredient of the toxic chemical dispersant, which is up to 60% by volume, being sprayed by BP to fight the Gulf oil spill is a neurotoxin pesticide that is acutely toxic to both human and aquatic life, causes cancer, causes damage to internal organs such as the liver and kidneys simply by absorbing it through the skin and may cause reproductive side effects…”
http://www.rense.com/general91/corexit.htm
5- Skimming ships from numerous nations have offered to help in removing the surface oil at no cost and have not been allowed to aid the cleanup by the puppet Obama. States have been ordered not to take preventative actions to defend their shores from the oil while the federal government has essentially done nothing but cede authority to BP.
Until I see compelling information indicating otherwise I personally will continue to view this entire fiasco as an attack and part of a take down of the U.S. I could be wrong and I hope I am. Time will tell.
gekko - If the towers fell at free fall speed then why are there plumes of debris that are falling faster than the collapsing tower?
Wow - got junked just for asking a simple question... I guess I have upset my "controllers".
But, but, but, but...
That's all you got. Instead of addressing the central issue, "Buuuuuuuut."
Again, STFU.
The video has been analyzed, proving that the core of the building did fall at near free-fall speed, MUCH faster than would have occurred under any scenario other than that of the building being sheared at the base.
The debris or whatever is of no substantial consequence in the primary hypothesis.
Well, free fall speed is by no means the ultimate/maximum speed. If debris ejected is "blown out" by some sort of a force applied, it will fall faster than "free fall" speed. Indeed, free fall speed is the minimum speed that something will fall when there is no resistance from below. I fail to understand how the material falling encountered almost zero resistance from layers of concrete and reinforced steel from below considering the lower layers weren't even on fire. Can't happen unless explosives were used to blow that material to smithereens. That said, the clincher for me was WTC 7. I might just have continued to to be in denial and ignore all evidence regarding the other two buildings, were it not for the WTC 7 collapse.
In my city a new building is being build. It is far from being finished. Fire started around 02.00 at the 25th and 26th floor. At 04.00 an explosion followed. In the morning the fire was (06.30) under control but still burning. They put it out hours later that day. Well you guessed right, it did not collapse. Video here (including explosion); http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOySDBT-LPY
The conspiracy largest problem is, these planes were filled with everyday people who relayed what was happening to the those planes to the ground.
People such as American Airlines Flight 11 Flight Attendant Amy Sweeney aged 35, who described the terrorsits, what they were doing, what they had done, in REAL time via air phone to her supervisor on the ground.
People such as United Airlines Flight 93 Flight Attendant Sandra Bradshaw aged 38, who called her husband and described the terrorsits, what they were doing, what they had done, in REAL time and that she was boiling water to use as a weapon to throw on them in concert with crew and passengers in an attempt to take back the plane. Flight Attendant CeeCee Lyles also called her husband while it was in flight to tell him what was going on.
These are just two or three examples. Then throw in all the calls from passengers from the planes to their families and law enforcement and it becomes undeniable that terrorsits have been seen, ON THEIR PLANE, killing and wounding people to gain control of the planes.
The conspiracy will have to be re-worked to account for ALL the people on the ground who recieved calls from their loved ones who, as EYE WITNESSES, were describing what was happening to them in REAL TIME.
Now, instead of some sort of Jewish conspiracy where empty planes were remote controlled piloted into buildings, we will now have to be treated to the hypothesis that the U.S. government conspired with Atta and the Hamburg Cell of AQ.
And of course, there is the "pre-planning" of the demolition to consider. Was security watching porn when the "cable guy" wearing his sexy tool belt came wandering in with with the amount of C-4, detonators etc. that would be required for the job on a refrigerator dolly? Estimates range to a half ton per building.
Then consider all who would have to be "in on it".
Have they all been "capped"? That's impossible as well, as entire families and coworkers would have to go as well just to be sure no one is alive to "reveal the secret".
"Let others lie, wantonly, gratuitously, if they will, but let you & me make it the rule of our life to lie for revenue only." Mark Twain
Keep in mind nmewn that many of the "Voices" and Phone Calls from the planes could have been easily faked with phonemic voice over modelling - in Real Time as you emphasize. You've probably seen demos on the Net where one person speaks and imitates another person's voice nearly perfectly after taking a short recording of the "target". Intelligence agencies had this technology long before 9/11.
Therefore, it is likely the "Voices" like Betty Ong's on the Planes were faked by Israeli Jews using Voice Morphing technology. Las Alamos N.L. also pioneered this technology so it is clear the algorithms for accurate voice morphing were developed before 9/11:
By taking just a 10-minute digital recording of Steiner's voice, scientist George Papcun is able, in near real time, to clone speech patterns and develop an accurate facsimile.
Ted Olson lied about the phone calls from his wife Barbara Olson or was conned by a "fake" Jew Intelligence Operative's call-- therefore, if he did get an actual call, it was probably from Jews using Voice Morphing software making it untraceable.
http://afpakwar.com/blog/archives/2557
Basically Jew Lies upon Lies -- like the Jew Fed Reserve with Jew Barney Frank:
http://www.youtube.com/v/KjImLL4NnwA
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Typical capable Talpiot Type to carry out 9/11
by Crack_Smoke_Republican on 30.04.2007 [01:06 ]
This is precisely the type of Agent that would work out an algorithm to watch over US military communication spikes. Notice the game-theory, peer-to-peer whitewashing in communications. Imagine a team of 30 or so Talpiots just like this one probing the US networks and modeling the planting of Thermate, modeling the security, modeling the day launch, modeling the remote controlled planes, modeling the controlled Demolitions, datamining the models, datamining the act in realtime. Jews just like this one did this before, during and after 9/11.
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Thesis topic: Accurate and efficient recognition of speakers, keywords, and languages in large audio archives.
Advisors: Prof. Amihood Amir (Bar-Ilan University)
Prof. David Burshtein (Tel-Aviv University). 1999-2000
M.Sc.
Summa Cum Laude
Computer Science.
Institution: Bar-Ilan University
Israel. 1994-1999
MBA
Cum Laude
Information Systems.
Cum Laude
Computer Science
Mathematics
Physics.
Institution: Hebrew University, Israel.
Appeared on the Dean's List of Excellence 1991-1992
1992-1993.
Note: TALPIOT Project (Israeli Defense Forces excellence academic program). Employment 2006- IBM - Post-doctoral in IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Speech recognition research
Advanced Large Vocabulary Continuous Speech Recognition group.
Research topics:
Speech segmentation and classification
Speaker diarization
Speaker adaptation
Transcription of Dialectal speech. 2004-2005
Intel - Communications research
design of algorithms for Wide-Band CDMA receivers - CRRL (Communications Research and RF Lab)
Intel - Speech and speaker recognition research ,
design of algorithms for cellular phones - SRL (Speech Research Lab)
Research topics:
Phonetic based name dialing,
Acoustic modeling,
Noise robustness,
Speaker adaptation,
Grapheme-to-Phoneme (G2P) modeling,
Compression of G2P models and pronunciation lexicons,
Distributed speech recognition,
Text-dependent speaker recognition 2000 Self design and production of an accurate and computational efficient algorithm for recognition of songs broadcasted on radio,
mainly addressed towards issues of copyright monitoring.
1994-2000 Israel Defense Forces - worked on a classified R&D project.
1994-1997: researcher in the project's research team. 1998: head of the project's research team.
1999-2000: project manager.
1991-1994 Israel Defense Forces - participated in the IDF's TALPIOT project, which educates and trains a selected few (around 30 every year) to become technological leaders within the IDF.
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/116064
CrackSmoke (LOL...good one) writes;
"Keep in mind nmewn that many of the "Voices" and Phone Calls from the planes could have been easily faked with phonemic voice over modelling - in Real Time as you emphasize. You've probably seen demos on the Net where one person speaks and imitates another person's voice nearly perfectly after taking a short recording of the "target". Intelligence agencies had this technology long before 9/11."
Oh I'm well aware of it. The problem with that is knowing key words within a conversation.
My wife and children have these words also, only recognized by us as a family. Every "normal" family has them. Nice try though.
I see another "fabricated terrorist attack" happened tonight celebrating Spain's futbol win, that will be somehow incorporated into the phantoms you chase so fervently...good luck folding it into the whole conspiracy.
I'm sure you'll try.
"KAMPALA, Uganda — In simultaneous bombings bearing the hallmarks of international terrorists, two explosions ripped through crowds watching the World Cup final in two places in Uganda's capital late Sunday, killing 64 people, police said. One American was killed and several were wounded."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/11/uganda-bomb-world-cup_n_642336....
Because it's essential that Uganda get behind the Jews in it's campaign to take over America...or sumpin.
Good grief.
Your post sounds like a long Alex Jewns Fart on 9/11...
Remember... Israel did 9/11 we have the Idiot MOSSAD Jews on Tape celebrating the towers falling.
I'm sure you got the Odigo before hand like the other Jews. It is and was a "False-Flag", like the USS Liberty in 1968 when Israeli IDF attack an American Ship and killed over 40 US Sailors. ----=====Israel has attacked America before====-----. Only JewSh*ts deny it.
The US military knows Israel did 9/11 since they were asked to stand down during training exercises that day.
You are definitely "coverup" JewTard material. But keep in mind that "JewCrap Lies" burn easily in the face of justice.
try this-
the mossad manipulated muslim stooges thru their instilled operatives. it would not be the first time. were the "dancing israelis" celebrating this success?
the short-term jewish owner of the twin towers who got a $7,000,000,000 settlement had dual incentives (money and zionism) to cause the destruction. he also called for building 7 to be "pulled."
no info released on the airline put options, no black boxes found, either the US joined with mossad in the operation, or later helped to cover it up. what were they going to do, attack israel when they own us, run our government and financial system?
Almost in every case - when I have had a discussion about what happened on 911- the people I am discussing it with, have an entirely superficial idea of what even the official story is, let alone the conflicting stories. The take home point for me has been - that, if it is possible to have watched that happen - see what very clearly suggests controlled demolitions - and, then, only if vaguely paying attention, see real claims that the Uranium Niger documents were forged - that all the facts of WMD were constructed- I mean, how braindead do you have to be to not spend some time trying to asceratin facts - instead of showing up at a barbecue, and being totally surprised, and disdainful, when I bring up all the incinsistencies- not even mentioning MOTIVE. What, exactly, must your waking hours consist of, if it never seems to occur to you that this may be not as they say? I stopped going to barbecues, or parties at all - and I HAD been going to gatherings of educated/skilled people. Made me very very worried about the quality of education here in USA. How frustrating to be arguing with lawyers - that couldn't even seem to raise the possibility the story was false. It would be one thing if I were still i college, arguing with other students- but, no, this is out in the real world, with experienced professionals- the leaders, and they remain clueless. Of course I also told them to get out of equities and buy Gold. Fuckers didn't listen. First ones to get blown off my porch - will be the idiots I recognize.
It's called DENIAL. A very powerful force indeed. If they even consider that 9/11 was government sponsored, their whole worldview - and the comfortable existence based upon it - would be blown to smithereens. The reluctance to even engage in that debate has to do with having to consider VERY distasteful thoughts about reality, but sooner or later everyone WILL have to confront the reality.
Bring out the MSM trolls---this cannot stand!!!!!!!
I have spent 10 years arguing with people about 911. I am highly educated in basic sciences. I have called many ex-acqauntances "dumb beyond all fuck", for never taking the almost effortless step to actually spend a weekend reading about it. I have challenged anyone who considers themselves to be more alert than a brick- to simply read one book- one book. Read David Ray Griffin's "The New Pearl Harbor". If you can read that - takes a few nights- and not come away seriously questioning how 911 happened, than, fine, you are an idiot - plain as day; however - if you are merely some only half mentally lame person, and this book wakes you up, then maybe there is some value to these blogs. I am so tired of politcal corrrectness. If you can not be intellectually curious enough to seriously look at how WTC 7 could have fallen into its own footprint - or how the Pentagon - the most heavily fortified space on the planet- could have been hit by a plane - then you are - I hope - the first person shot when Xe comes thru your hood. I seriously invite any one grounded in science- and military - soemone who has actually read all the conflicting info- to try to convince me that it wasn't a Black-ops hit. Try to explain why the military was running, on 911 - an military EXERCISE that involved planes flying into buildings? Go for it.
I already figured it out. Bin Laden orchestrated free grand slam breakfasts for all military personnel on the eastern seaboard of the US the morning of 911 on the condition they be there between 8 and 10 am EST and incommunicado with their bases and superiors. It was brilliant i tell ya, brilliant.
It is an “almost effortless step” to begin to see what a scam on the American people and the world the events of 9-11 really were.This Gulf oil rupture which looks to be just beginning, is almost certainly another planned event.
"There will always be Americans who will believe whatever the government tells them no matter how many times they know the government has lied to them..." - Paul Craig Roberts
It's getting so your only choice is tinfoil or koolaid.
Left-Leaning Despisers of the 9/11 Truth Movement:
Do You Really Believe in Miracles?
By David Ray Griffin
An Open Letter to Terry Allen, Noam Chomsky, Alexander Cockburn, David Corn, Chris Hayes, George Monbiot, Matthew Rothschild, and Matt Taibbi.1
July 07, 2010 "GR" -- According to several left-leaning critics of the 9/11 Truth Movement, some of its central claims, especially about the destruction of the World Trade Center, show its members to be scientifically challenged.
In the opinion of some of these critics, moreover, claims made by members of this movement are sometimes unscientific in the strongest possible sense, implying an acceptance of magic and miracles.
After documenting this charge in Part I of this essay, I show in Part II that the exact opposite is the case: that the official account of the destruction of the World Trade Center implies miracles (I give nine examples), and that the 9/11 Truth Movement, in developing an alternative hypothesis, has done so in line with the assumption that the laws of nature did not take a holiday on 9/11.
In Part III, I ask these left-leaning critics some questions evoked by the fact that it is they, not members of the 9/11 Truth Movement, who have endorsed a conspiracy theory replete with miracle stories as well as other absurdities.
I The Charge that 9/11 Truth Theories Rest on Unscientific, Even Magical, Beliefs
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25895.htm
Okay, I'll bite. What makes left-leaning critics less able to endorse the proper conspiracy theories than, say, right-leaning critics; or centrist critics who can't decide which way to lean?
The inescapable truth of 911 is that no matter how you slice it, it was SOMEBODY'S CONSPIRACY. Unless you believe, as I do, that it was just a whole bunch of really awful accidents that just happened at the same time without anybody planning anything. Just one of those really off days.
Oopsy.
According to the Mossad themselves, they cased the "terrorists" houses in August 2001 and the NSA had tapped their phones for over 2 years. Mossad were arrested celebrating the collapse of the towers on 9/11 in NJ. Even a Sayaret Markel member was on the "hijacked" plane in Pennsylvania. Consider too that the Israeli IAI had "pioneered" remote-controlled 747 piloting back in the late 1990s... answer 9/11 was a Jew-Scammed False Flag at the highest levels of the US Government and has been covered up by Jew Scam insiders since day 1. The IAI had close relationships with Dov Zakheim, a Zionist Jew and comptroller at the Pentagon. Fact is, the US military knows the Jews pulled off 9/11 at the highest levels and now that the Jew Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are effectively "lost" -- they are letting the J-Tribe know they can't pull another False Flag on the USA. There shouldn't be a war on Terrorism or Jihadism, there should be a WAR ON F'N JEW SCAMS GLOBALLY!!! Close the circle on the Criminals.
Bottom line: you see it either as an orchestrated Israeli-US/UK False Flag "Intelligence" operation of high caliber, or else you see it as "Islamic Terrorists". Like most things involving PNAC, OSP, NeoCons, Kissinger, Criminal Jewry -- I bet my money on the Mossad-Talpiot group. Never heard of Talpiot? You are not supposed to. But they know how to blow up buildings.
Conspiracy or Intelligence Operation to launch major wars for Israel? I choose the latter unequivocally. Your country is bankrupt because of Jews and their Scams, if you don't believe it, your children will someday:
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=46002
Member for 35 weeks. 4 comments. All on the same topic. Listen, I can respect a individual who has legitimate issue with the geopolitical implications of Israel. You, on the other hand, seem to have a major hang-up about jews. Go out and meet some. It will do you some good.
Hey JewTard,
Leave America. Now. Get the F'Out and take your multi-cult immigrants with you.
And no, you are not getting re-imbursed for your losses in your Madoff Scam.
: ) You're funny.
Israel did 9/11, ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD!!http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367
Just when I thought I couldn't learn much of anything new about 9/11 you drop this little gem of a BBC interview.
In these 8 minutes he effectively outlines the whole game plan for the past 9 years - using (and coining?) the term "war on terror", identifying Osama BL as the primary suspect, and reeling off his list of rogue nations (some twice for good measure): Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea, Syria, Libya.
Listen carefully to Barak's words ... witness his body language.
That man is talking some scary shit given all that has happened since that day. Barak sounds like a man on a mission.
thanx CSR
We have always been fortunate in our enemies.