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Government Trying to Sweep Size of Oil Spill Under the Rug, Just As It Has Tried to Sweep the Economic Crisis, 9/11 and All Other Crises Under the Rug
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As I previously pointed out,
the Gulf oil spill is very similar to 9/11, because - in both cases -
the responders helping with rescue and clean up were getting sick ...
but were told they don't need any safety gear. And see this.
In addition, the government is keeping scientists away from "ground zero" of the oil spill and - for that reason - scientists cannot accurately measure the size of the oil spill.
BP has also tried to cover up its blunders by lowballing spill estimates, keeping reporters out of areas hardest hit by the oil (and see this, this, this and this) and threatening to arrest them if they try to take pictures (and see this), hiding dead birds and other sealife, and using dispersants to hide the amount of spilled oil (the dispersants are only worsening the damage caused by the spill).
The government is complicit in all of these cover-ups. Indeed, the Obama administration has made it a felony to get near enough to oiled wildlife and beaches to film them.
Similarly, the official 9/11 investigators were themselves largely denied funding, access
to the site and the evidence contained there, or even access to such
basic information as the blueprints for the world trade center.
Indeed,
just as the government and BP have consistently underestimated the
amount of oil gushing out of the Gulf, the blueprints for the World
Trade Center are still to this day being withheld from reporters and the public, and the government agency in charge of the investigation has grossly mischaracterized the structure of the buildings.
How
are we supposed to improve building safety regulations if the
blueprints are still being hidden from engineers and scientists
investigating the collapse of world trade center buildings 1, 2 and 7
on September 11th?
Moreover, as I previously pointed out:
9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:
Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.
[Moreover]:
- The chairs of both the 9/11 Commission and the Joint Inquiry of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees into 9/11 said that government "minders" obstructed the investigation into 9/11 by intimidating witnesses
- The 9/11 Commissioners concluded
that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission, and considered
recommending criminal charges for such false statements
- The
tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was
intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the
tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different
trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times
- Investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered
that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two
hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the
informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown
location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking
maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House. As the New
York Times notes:
Senator
Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate
Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering
up evidence . . .* * *
The accusation stems from the
Federal Bureau of Investigation's refusal to allow investigators for a
Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to
interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers. -
In
his book "Intelligence Matters," Mr. Graham, the co-chairman of the
Congressional inquiry with Representative Porter J. Goss, Republican of
Florida, said an F.B.I.
official wrote them in November 2002 and said "the administration would
not sanction a staff interview with the source.'' On Tuesday,
Mr. Graham called the letter "a smoking gun" and said, "The reason for
this cover-up goes right to the White House."
Of course, the government's response to the economic crisis, torture, the anthrax attacks, and just about every other crisis has been the same: try to sweep it under the rug.
It
almost seems as if the main activity of government these days is trying
to cover up criminal negligence and fraud ... instead of actually solving problems, firing - let alone convicting - the folks who caused the problems, or changing things enough to prevent future crises.
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So, you're going to fly a airliner into the WTC, but you hijack a plane from Boston and fly it 45 minutes to NYC - would it not make more sense to hijack a plane leaving or arriving at NYC which would give you the minimal amount of time from the hijacking to the collison?
Logic, common sense and physics are not to be talked about! Didn't you get the memo? You know, the same one that tells us that it was a bunch of freedom-hating cave dwellers that were able to defeat layer after layer of the most sophisticated and costly systems in human history?
Yup, gravity doesn't exist. Weren't people being executed a long time ago for suggesting that the sun revolves around the earth? Hm... I wonder if those folks also didnt' like Muslims.
What a weak connection. BP Oil spill = 9/11. Ridiculous.
One was a terrorist attack using planes loaded with innocent people on a major city by people who hate the US and have every intent to destroy it and remake it in the image of Islam.
The other is a terrible environmental disaster but part and parcel of the risks we take due to our oil dependence.
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William Randolph Hearst
it almost seems as if the main activity of government these days is trying to cover up criminal negligence and fraud...
Welcome to the United States of Baskin Robbins, with 31 different flavors of dishonesty. Regulatory agencies make no effort to regulate; consumer protection agencies do not protect consumers; wars are intended to go on forever, rather than to achieve victory; banking regulations are rewritten in order to disguise the insolvency of banks; markets are designed to prevent price discovery; congress passes, without reading, laws written by lobbyists for the affected industry; the media deliberately confuse, rather than clarify... the list goes on and on, in government, in business, in general.
Welcome to The Corporate States of Amerika. The Oligarchs won this round, hands down.
Good post.
And another good one:
;)
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367
Keep an eye open...
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10072
Thomas Kean, Chair of 911 Commission, is a Bilderberger, Member of Trilateral Commission, and Council on Foreign Relations
Lee Hamilton, Vice Chair of 911 Commission, is a Bilderberger, Member of Trilateral Commission, and Council on Foreign Relations
Tony Hayward, CEO of BP, is a Bilderberger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine
Simple. And as usual, do not startle the herd.
GW
Government's incompetence and apparent coverup on the BP spill is amazing to me. So much for the freedom of the press. I don't undertsand what they are trying to hide from us. Very frustrating...
Easy now GW, one peice of pie at a time. Gulf spill, 911? why not just try and fit in OK city, Waco, JFK, Gulf of Tonkin, KAL 007.....
entire books and more than a few movies have taken a try at those, to not much avail.
Why is it that whenever anything potentially important occurs, the GOV goes into protect mode and smothers everything in secrecy. Even if they are completely innocent, they just make themselves look so guilty.
Hey, now that Arlen Specter has been tossed out like an old worn dish rag, any chance he'll come clean on the "magic" bullet?
9/11? EOD friend of mine, first thing he said as the buildings went? "That's a demolition."
Tonkin? Yep. Already proven in mainstream to be an American red-herring to justify a war.
Waco? Yes, they did shoot people as they fled the burning building. Proven in court. And why was The BATF there in the first place using a warrant for "child abuse"?
OKC? Ever see the original news broadcast? Classified by US Gov't as damaging to National Security. Released on the whack-job site Alex Jones. I love the part where the reporter states, (adlibbing) "...police have told us not to come any closer as there are multiple explosive devices STILL in the building.." (something like that).
JFK? Lone gunman.
KAL 007? Who knows? The Russians do.
BP/GOM? Incompetence. At least no oil company need file another environmental impact study. As there is no environment left to protect.
The Big 'O' (Obama)? Nice speech at the DNC in 2004. We expected him to be elected in 2012 as a sure thing. So we were off by four years. 'O' is a technocrat way out of his league. He was groomed like GWB to be President.
GW Bush? That guy was a tool. Dick Cheney ran everything. I'm mean, seriously, an IQ 84 President?
The Government? Well, Congress at least. Controlled by finance. Looking for the big corporate payday.
Shall we go on?
JFK magic bullet! LOL. The Secret Service and FBI didn't release ballistics reports. Hmm. I smell BULLSHIT.
'We' still don't know where his brain went. WTF?
By George Soros. No wonder O had so much campaign money. And at this point who cares! The ship is going down! Get to thee to the lifeboats my man! We can talk about it once we've cleared the suction zone.
According to the Dallas Police, Oswald's fingerprints were not on the murder weapon, Oswald was not on the sixth floor when the shots were fired, a paraffin test revealed he did not shoot a rifle that day, and when questioned by police, insisted most vehemently that he did not shoot anybody, and was being set up as a patsy.
Are there really living, breathing, thinking people that still believe LHO was the lone gunman?
"It almost seems as if the main activity of government these days is trying to cover up criminal negligence and fraud ... instead of actually solving problems, firing - let alone convicting - the folks who caused the problems, or changing things enough to prevent future crises."
And that sums it up nicely.The adults went on vacation and the teenagers are burning down the house.This disaster is yet another preventable mess that can be laid at the feet of corruption, incompetence, and greed.I hold BP and the government blameworthy in equal portions for this.
Even though BP has a poor record, it could have happened to someone else given the MMS stupidity.As it is, BP will be never thought of the same way...they hit the lottery and everyone loses.Everyone.
Those poor people in the Gulf...their lives are ruined.And the sad truth is, no one can fix it.Only the slow passage of time will heal it, which is a bitter pill to swallow.
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Has this alleged North Korean attack theory on the Deepwater Horizon rig been discussed here on ZH? Is that one of the reasons for the paucity of info and the seeming cover-up from BP and the government? The story comes from a russian source. Do the russians like to cause trouble and could this just be one more instance? Yes. However, would the North Koreans be crazy enough to pull something like this off? Yes. If true, what should the US response be? Tactical nukes on all the NK artillery that can hit Seoul and that is in hardened bunkers?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100531064106AAgZ6fR
I heard that YOU were responsible. The cars should be pulling up any minute now...
If you have to ask, you don't belong here.
And since you asked...
A petty comment like that is just a cry for help.
removed by the CIA.
I suggest Zotepine.
Urgently.
Muir - Zotepine sounds like a new kind of air-freshener. Am I suppose to take somone with bouncing boobs for an avatar seriously? Although they are very nice and firm.
I'm not saying I believe, I'm just saying the story is out there.
No other country in the world would try to pull this off, except North Korea. The Cubans probably weren't aware of what was going on.
Eleven Americans have already been killed and it seems that thousands of Americans will die early deaths due to exposure to the toxins that will be in the groundwater and environment of those five Gulf States for years to come. Seems like a pretty serious attack on the US, if true. Previous attacks of this size have garnered serious retaliation.
BeJesus Man!
"North Korean attack theory"
come on, jeez.
"I'm not saying I believe, I'm just saying the story is out there."
Make up your mind, are you nuts, or just pointing out others are?
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The GoM / BP criminal act is a serious matter, your post degrades it, thus, my reply.
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edit: And, GW should be the first to take the anti-psychotic.
Why do you guys insist on using provacative pictures in your profiles. It just makes you look like a testosterone charged junior high kid. It takes away from your message IMO. Grow up...
What provacative pictures?
Speak for yourself Bro... I'll take a nice bouncing pair over maturity anytime <g>
Moneyed people trust bouncing, young boobs. Why else a 65 y.o. tycoon surrounding himself with twins? Trust the experts. Bouncing boobs it is. Nice pic.
not that i was asked, but i'm more with jesusfreak, at least until some straight women or gay men throw up some of the other stuff. (not that i haven't hit the apple and plus keys a few times...)
That's your problem right there. You paid too much for PC components in an Apple plastic chassis running FreeBSD with a modified GUI. Here's some old school pr0n.
That's because government doesn't work. And of course when I say "government", I mean coercive, top-down government, not government that is created spontaneously by free markets to regulate themselves.
ike Eisenhower, the Last President
"Mommy, Mommy, how come Israel has a seat in the UN and the Hopi, Comanche, Apache, Navajo, and all the other Sovereign Nations are not allowed in the United Nations?"
"Oh Billy, Israel is our friend, and we're occupying all the Sovereign Nations Land on this Continent. If we allowed them a voice then we would have to GIVE THEM BACK their LAND and Dignity. Instead we pay them just enough to turn them into alcoholics"
"Mommy, Mommy, why are all these products in our stores so cheap?"
"Oh Billy, the folks in China, Pakistan, India, etc., work for $10 per Week. This is much CHEAPER then if we had SLAVES in America."
"Mommy, Mommy, who organized the 9/11 Attacks?"
"Oh Billy, it was our biggest financial partner in the MidEast, the Saudis."
"Mommy, Mommy, what happened to Bin Laden?"
"Oh Billy, Bin Laden died in DECEMBER 2001, honey."
"Mommy, Mommy, why did we invade IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN for?"
"Oh Billy, Iraq has $150 TRILLION in OIL Reserves, and in JUST one province of Afghanistan we found $10 TRILLION worth of raw Minerals. That's enough to GOTO and STAY at war for MANY years."
"Mommy, mommy, why do 5.7 Billion people dislike America?"
"Oh Billy... it's because our Government wants to Liberate the World from their Natural Resources and Dignity, and they JUST won't fall for it...."
"Mommy, Mommy, can we go see the doctor tommorow?"
"Oh Billy, this isn't Canada!"
"I Love You Mommy! I love you IKE!"
"Good boy Billy....you're a good boy....."
Government = the most powerful MAFIA of the land
No more. No less.
Amen.
I'll add to that. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely.
HedgingInfinite...
SAY WHAT!
"not government that is created spontaneously by free markets to regulate themselves."
Where the fuck is this heaven and why haven't you or anoyone espousing similar beliefs moved there?
+1000
i thought much the same. what free markets create spontaneously to regulate themselves are oligopolies (and the death of the free market).
Government is the problem, not the solution. By its very nature, a government HAS to create problems to justify its existence. Perhaps you may recall the Marxist Dialectic?....Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis, or in its more modern variant, Problem, Reaction, Solution. 'Create' the problem, wait for the reaction, respond with a solution that advances your agenda....after many iterations, government and business elites have what they want... and you are left wondering how you got the short end of the stick.
Government is not the problem. An ill-run government is. Regulation worked for our nation up until the Free Marketeers had their way with deregulation. Glass-Stegall was an excellent example. Besides, a free market ultimately leads to oligarchy. Which is why Roosevelt used The Sherman Anti-Trust Act to break up the cartels and monopolies. Those cartels and monopolies directly challenged The Federal Government.
Then, The United States got The Federal Reserve Act as a reply. Excellent move by the "Free Marketeers". Free Marketeers only believe in Free Markets as long as they control them. The biggest boy on the block. Basic human nature. Human nature trumps free markets.
Free market disciples. Reminds me of economics being called a science. Pseudo-science at best. All those Ivory Tower theories laid by the wayside. Fallen from their lofty Ivory Tower heights into dust. Oh, sure. The "theories" work for a bit. And then the unexpected happens. LTMC, anyone? The taxpayers picked up that tab. Pseudo-Keynesians anyone? Talk to Bernanke. Worship at his alter.
Goobermint is ALWAYS the problem. NEVER the solution. Pull your head out of the vodka bottle long enough to gain some awareness. Sheesh!
BTW- Krakow is a lovely city.
yep. The free market solves all the woes ... like the financial sector on wall street.
VodkaInKrakow
"Government is not the problem. An ill-run government is."
I disagree. Governments first duty is to protect itself. Any government.
Once that is understood every single act of any government makes sense.
any thing's first duty is to protect itself. you appear to be saying something but are belaboring the obvious.
from the writing of the constitution through the defeat of slavery to the progressive era, the new deal and the great society, government accomplished significant goals. also much evil, especially via the military industrial complex ike (and smedley butler) warned about. since the rise of "movement conservatism" with reagan and climaxing with w. bush the u.s. government has become an almost unalloyed criminal enterprise with one of its primary political goals to offer so little of use to the lower and middle classes that they would turn from government as a means of achieving useful goals. obama has to a surprising (to me) degree, continued on this road.