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The following quotes all have something in common:

"It is not
the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into
error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from
falling into error"
– United States Supreme Court decision in American Communications Association v. Douds

"To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men."
- Abraham Lincoln

"Those who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Ben Franklin

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
- Thomas Jefferson

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
-Thomas Jefferson

"It
is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human
history is shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to
improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends
forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million
different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current
that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
- Robert F . Kennedy

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."
- Samuel Adams

"Patriotism
means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the
president or any other public official save exactly to the degree in
which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him
insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to
oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he
fails in his duty to stand by the country."
– Teddy Roosevelt

"To
announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we
are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
– Teddy Roosevelt

“The citizen who sees his society’s democratic clothes being worn out and does not cry it out, is not a patriot, but a traitor.”
- Mark Twain

"Liberty
has never come from government. Liberty has always come from the
subjects of government. The history of liberty is a history of
resistance. The history of liberty is a history of limitations of
government power, not the increase of it."
- Woodrow Wilson

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent"
- Thomas Jefferson

"This
country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it.
Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can
exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their
revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."
- Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural

"In
this point of the case the question is distinctly presented whether
the people of the United States are to govern through representatives
chosen by their unbiased suffrages or whether the money and power of a
great corporation are to be secretly exerted to influence their
judgment and control their decisions."

- Andrew Jackson

"I
am more than ever convinced of the dangers to which the free and
unbiased exercise of political opinion -- the only sure foundation and
safeguard of republican government -- would be exposed by any further
increase of the already overgrown influence of corporate authorities."
- Martin Van Buren, Eighth President of the United States

"As
we view the achievements of aggregated capital, we discover the
existence of trusts, combinations, and monopolies, while the citizen is
struggling far in the rear or is trampled to death beneath an iron
heel. Corporations, which should be the carefully restrained creatures
of the law and the servants of the people, are fast becoming the
people's masters."
- Grover Cleveland, 22nd and 24th President of the United States

"I
again recommend a law prohibiting all corporations from contributing
to the campaign expenses of any party.… Let individuals contribute as
they desire; but let us prohibit in effective fashion all corporations
from making contributions for any political purpose, directly or
indirectly." Teddy Roosevelt added, "The fortunes amassed through
corporate organization are now so large, and vest such power in those
that wield them, as to make it a matter of necessity to give to the
sovereign -- that is, to the Government, which represents the people as
a whole -- some effective power of supervision over their corporate
use. In order to insure a healthy social and industrial life, every big
corporation should be held responsible by, and be accountable to, some
sovereign strong enough to control its conduct."
- Theodore Roosevelt

"In
the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of
unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the
military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of
misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of
this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We
should take nothing for granted."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

"It
was natural and perhaps human that the privileged princes of these new
economic dynasties, thirsting for power, reached out for control over
government itself. They created a new despotism and wrapped it in the
robes of legal sanction. ...And as a result the average man once more
confronts the problem that faced the Minute Man....
- Franklin Roosevelt

"A
small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete
control over other people's property, other people's money, other
people's labor -- other people's lives. For too many of us life was no
longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the
pursuit of happiness."
- Franklin Roosevelt

"These economic
royalists complain that we seek to overthrow the institutions of
America. What they really complain of is that we seek to take away their
power. Our allegiance to American institutions requires the overthrow
of this kind of power. In vain they seek to hide behind the flag and
the Constitution. In their blindness they forget what the flag and the
Constitution stand for."
- Franklin Roosevelt

"Behind the
ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no
allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To
destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance
between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the
statesmanship of the day."
- Theodore Roosevelt

"We hold
these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that
they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to
secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving
their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any
Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of
the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in
such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and
Happiness."
-Thomas Jefferson, American Declaration of Independence

What do the quotes all have in common?

The great Americans who said them would be considered terrorists today.

Specifically, according to Department of Defense training manuals, protest is considered "low-level terrorism". And see this, this and this.

An FBI memo also labels peace protesters as "terrorists".

Indeed, police have been terrorizing children, little old ladies and other "dangerous" people who attempted to protest peacefully.

And a 2003 FBI memo describes protesters' use of videotaping as an "intimidation" technique, even though - as the ACLU
points out - "Most mainstream demonstrators often use videotape during
protests to document law enforcement activity and, more importantly,
deter police from acting outside the law." The FBI appears to be
objecting to the use of cameras to document unlawful behavior by law
enforcement itself.

The Internet has been labeled
as a breeding ground for terrorists, with anyone who questions the
government's versions of history being especially equated with
terrorists.

The government is also using anti-terrorism laws to keep people from learning what pollutants are in their own community. See this, this, this and this.

Claims of "national security"
are also used to keep basic financial information - such as who got
bailout money - secret. That might not bode for particularly warm and
friendly treatment for someone persistently demanding the release of
such information.

The state of Missouri tried to label
as terrorists current Congressman Ron Paul and his supporters, former
Congressman Bob Barr, libertarians in general, anyone who holds gold,
and a host of other people.

And according to a law school professor, pursuant to the Military Commissions Act:

Anyone who ... speaks out against the government's policies could be declared an "unlawful enemy combatant" and imprisoned indefinitely. That includes American citizens.

The Founding Fathers, Supreme Court justices and presidents quoted above would vigorously protest.

Note: Government apologists are also eager to label
anyone "taking a cynical stance toward politics, mistrusting
authority, endorsing democratic practices, ... and displaying an
inquisitive, imaginative outlook" as worthy of a Stalinist trip to the
insane asylum.  I guess the famous Americans quoted above were not only
terrorists, but they were also crazy.

 

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Thu, 09/16/2010 - 04:05 | 584754 ego contemno TPTB
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A little music will make things better...

"Coldcut & Will Saul - The Pledge of  Resistance"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SalADQAcjQ&feature=related

As prescient today as it was then (2002)!

Great read everyone - Vote with your feet and conscience instead as the ballot box is closed for future democratic process!

 

Thu, 09/16/2010 - 02:09 | 584752 huggy_in_london
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you live in what is now a police state...the illuminati at work.  Their global plan closer to completion

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 22:40 | 584517 CPL
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My suggestions are from the book of bikers.  Make sure you kill them as they leave the scene of annoyance.

 

Could be anything at that point.  Met a hooker.  Ran away with a crack addict.  Traffic accident.  Horrible car fire in which they were in the car by the side of the highway.

 

People are fairly fragile big or small.  Remove the agents of "change" and find out how unwilling the next ones are willing to come, when they do drive away "they"...met a hooker...ran away with a crack addict...horrible burning fire on the side of the highway.  Doesn't matter the size of the badge, the story is pretty easy to destroy a man's work.

 

The law operates on a beginning and a middle, the end is always what makes 87% of murders unsolved.  As in..do you remember what happened to <insert one of a 7 billion people in this sentence>?

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 16:10 | 583919 Yes We Can. But...
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I, Barack Obama, find your post to be a load of hooey. 

Gubmint is Good, More Gubmint is Better, and My Gubmint is Best.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 15:59 | 583875 Ripped Chunk
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My understanding is if you request something under the "Freedom of Information Act" you are automatically being looked at by the Dept. of "Homeland Security".  On the list so to speak.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 17:42 | 584163 George Washington
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Link, please?

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 19:06 | 584248 Rick64
Wed, 09/15/2010 - 18:58 | 584232 Ripped Chunk
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38350993/

Playing politics with public records requests Department of Homeland Security facing scrutiny over a scrapped policy

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/22/ap-homeland-security-probed-foia-requesters-delayed-data-based-on-politics/

Homeland Security probed FOIA requesters, delayed data based on politics

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/foia-filtered/

Report: Political Appointees Vetted DHS Public Records Requests

Read More http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/foia-filtered/#ixzz0zdquzTLx

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 19:21 | 584258 George Washington
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THANK YOU!

Thu, 09/16/2010 - 15:16 | 585995 Ripped Chunk
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Thank you GW. I am grateful for your posts both here and on your site.

I was suprised to see MSN run an item about the DHLS "reviewing" FOIA requests. 

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 17:40 | 584159 Rick64
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 They are slowly eliminating the FOIA as well as whistleblowers.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 15:44 | 583835 Miss Expectations
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The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.
John F. Kennedy

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 15:17 | 583762 kujo
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Both major parties are seriously corrupted, and the only viable alternative now is the Tea Party (Slogan: Doing all the wrong things for all the right reasons). Get involved at the grassroots level and their support can be eroded from the inside. Corporations are not people and should not have the same rights as individuals, unless there are real consequences to the officers and directors for the actions of said corporation. Right, left, or center we need to hold the line here: http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm That is all. 

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 14:31 | 583631 New Revolution
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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading" Thomas Jefferson

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 14:13 | 583577 ThisIsBob
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When they come for you they will be wearing the flag.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 14:49 | 583686 DosZap
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The SS one?

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 12:53 | 583450 ATG
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the financial system was on the edge of collapse in 2008...

After it deregulated itself overturning Glass Steagall, Net Capital and Conflict of Interest safety laws dating from the Great Depression.

Another bigger hit coming after Congress allowed FinReg 2010 to be written by Wall Street.

The former Treasury Secretary wanted a trillion dollar bailout with no oversight. The Ayn Rand former Fed Chair supported eliminating regulation.

The current Fed Chair and Treasury Secretary applaud FinReg 2010 and the economic summer of recovery.

No wonder primaries suggest we are headed for eliminating DC incumbents Tuesday 2 Nivember 2010 in landslide upsets...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act

 


Wed, 09/15/2010 - 12:22 | 583382 MGA_1
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Hmm... one has to wonder what would be found if an audit were done of the fed.  I will have to say that I think the financial system was on the edge of collapse in 2008 and the fed did probably save the day.  The only thing that people might find irksome is that some bankers probably made unrealistic profits based upon the cheap money coming their way...

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 12:17 | 583376 obewon
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RE:The Court Martial of LT. Colonel Lakin

The Obama administration now has total control of the Judicial system in the US, including the US Military Justice System.

Please look at this video from Dr. James David Manning, a black Pastor from NY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzJjqpkvONI&feature=player_embedded

 

 

Where is The Outrage?

 

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 11:52 | 583331 DosZap
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Anyone who ... speaks out against the government's policies could be declared an "unlawful enemy combatant" and imprisoned indefinitely. That includes American citizens.

 

This Buttwipe, is definitely a Left Wing Progressive, and should be HUNG FROM A LAMP POLE.

If they expect the American people to continue to out up with this shit, their in for a rude awakening.Nazi Bastards.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 10:02 | 583025 downrodeo
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Thanks GW as always.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 09:16 | 582931 Trundle
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You're either with us- or you're with the terrorists, including those 9 muslims who crashed those planes into those buildings yet mysteriously remain alive today!

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 09:13 | 582926 curbyourrisk
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"Anyone who ... speaks out against the government's policies could be declared an "unlawful enemy combatant" and imprisoned indefinitely. That includes American citizens."

 

Well label me a terrorist and call me crazy!!!

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 12:35 | 583412 Trundle
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If they give me moldy gubmint cheese, can I at least say that it sucks?

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 09:54 | 583012 Sudden Debt
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Last week a kid of 16 years old from my country send A EMAIL to Obama calling him bad names.

The FBI contacted INTERPOL and the boy's parents house was raided with a special intervention squad!!!!!!!!

The boy now has a lifetime ban of ever entering America!!!!!!

 

 

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 10:51 | 583144 RockyRacoon
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Link to news article(s) please.  Thanks!

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 13:12 | 583485 RockyRacoon
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Joanne Ferreira, of the US Department of Homeland Security, said there are about 60 reasons a person can be barred.

She added: "We are prohibited from discussing specific cases."

So, whatever they don't like (prohibited from telling us what that might be) will get you banned from international travel.   Probably not travel to a Muslim country where you can get some good solid training in jihad.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 17:37 | 584157 Rick64
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 The specifics are probably not discussed because they are totally ridiculous and wouldn't support an investigation.  These scare tactics are sending a message they want everybody to hear.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 11:34 | 583281 frosty zoom
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egad!

 

i searched for the gentleman's story and wound up on a crazyloco jihadist site.

 

the fbi...  the cia...  the nsa...  ¡¡¡google ads!!!

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 21:55 | 584460 NorthenSoul
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http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/09/15/british-teen-banned-from-u-s-after-s...

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Brit-Luke-Angel-banned-US-sending-Barack-Obama-abusive-e-mail.html

www.nydailynews.com/.../2010-09-13_british_teen_luke_angel_banned_from_united_states_for_life_for_offensive_email_t.html

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 10:50 | 583142 RockyRacoon
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"Everybody's entitled to their opinion ... by firing him, they're sending a message that there's no freedom of speech. They're completely wrong for doing this."

"He's a family man," neighbor Randy McConnell, 43, said.

"He loves his kids and he loves trains. I don't agree with what he did, but he shouldn't lose his job over it. That's his right."

I would also add that he is an idiot, but he did have the right to do whatever he wanted to with a book.  When the official government policy becomes that of ordering book burning then I'll draw a line, albeit a fuzzy one.

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 08:30 | 582863 MountainMan
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The more one thinks, the more one realizes that true change can only come from a grass roots revolution. The status quo will fight for its survival to the death. They cannot be permitted to survive. The metal is hot. The people must strike now...but how? I haven't figured out the "how" just yet...

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 12:38 | 583421 zaknick
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Don't worry, it's about to get hotter. Sheeple will only finally jump when their own existence is threatened. That point is not far off as the welfare/warfare state is unsustainable.

 

I can't wait for the other side of this collapse;lots o' fascists to prosecute or is that persecute?

 

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 08:26 | 582860 blindman
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Mar 3, 2010

Who really said “When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross”?

You’ve probably heard some variation on this quote: “When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross,” possibly attributed to Sinclair Lewis or Huey Long. The author behind the site What Shii Knows has done some research and found two possible sources:

“It is a peculiarity of the development of American fascism that at the present stage it comes forward principally in the guise of an opposition to fascism, which it accuses of being an “un-American” trend imported from abroad.” – Georgi Dimitrov, in his report delivered at the Seventh World Congress of the Communist International in 1935.

“When and if fascism comes to America it will not be labeled ‘made in Germany’; it will not be marked with a swastika; it will not even be called fascism; it will be called, of course, ‘Americanism’” – An uncredited New York Times reporter covering Halford E. Luccock in an article published September 12, 1938.

What Shii Knows: Fascism comes wrapped in the flag

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 08:06 | 582834 Sudden Debt
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Today, 125 years after President Lincoln's inauguration, the world is divided between a slave-system -- the Soviet bloc -- and the Western area dominated by a lawless banking system, a system more criminal and unstable than that of the King Cotton era of the 1850s. Illegal narcotics profits pour through the system as its major prop of liquidity. Over 100 major American banks have been found guilty of "money laundering" for the dope mob. Speculation increases in hot Eurodollars and in the worthless debts of starving tropical countries, while industrial plant construction is simply not funded. Since the Kennedy administration, debt-service payments have climbed from 6% to about 30% of the national income. In this destructive work the de facto privately controlled Federal Reserve Board is complicit.

The present, chaotic tyranny of unregulated international banking creates, in Lincoln's words, a "great volcano at Washington, aroused and directed by the evil spirit that reigns there, belching forth the lava of political corruption." Have we the courage, and can we revive the cultural and political heritage of Lincoln's day, to restore freedom to our country?

 

Executive Intelligence Review, May 30, 1986

SO IF I CHANGE THE TEXT A BIT INTO THIS:

Today, 150 years after President Lincoln's inauguration, the world is divided between a slave-system -- the AZIAN bloc -- and the Western area dominated by a lawless banking system, a system more criminal and unstable than that of the King Cotton era of the 1850s. Illegal narcotics profits pour through the system as its major prop of liquidity. Over 100 major American banks have been found guilty of "money laundering" for the dope mob. Speculation increases in hot Eurodollars and in the worthless debts of starving tropical countries, while industrial plant construction is simply not funded. Since the Kennedy administration, debt-service payments have climbed from 6% to about 30% of the national income. In this destructive work the de facto privately controlled Federal Reserve Board is complicit.

The present, chaotic tyranny of unregulated international banking creates, in Lincoln's words, a "great volcano at Washington, aroused and directed by the evil spirit that reigns there, belching forth the lava of political corruption." Have we the courage, and can we revive the cultural and political heritage of Lincoln's day, to restore freedom to our country?

 

The text is still good right?

The "enemies" may change, but the rest of the shit remains!

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 13:15 | 583487 ATG
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EIR is LaRouche:

Lincoln in some ways a totalitarian who bypassed NYC Bank usury and the Constitutional requirement for gold and silver legal tender with the unbacked Treasury Greenback only after his death redeemed by idaho and Nevada gold and silver plus treasuries, declared martial law, ran over States' Rights roughshod and suspended habeas corpus...

Wed, 09/15/2010 - 07:55 | 582826 Sudden Debt
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In looking up the reconstruction plans after the American civil wars, I found these key points:

  • In December 1861, President Lincoln's own financial plan was presented by Treasury Secretary Salmon Chase (a free-trade liberal sweating and agonizing in the President's harness), and by Lincoln himself. Its measures included:

     

    • a nationally regulated private banking system, which would issue cheap credit to build industry;

       

    • the issuance of government legal-tender paper currency;

       

    • the sale of low-interest bonds to the general public and to the nationally chartered banks;

       

    • the increase of tariffs until industry was running at full tilt;

       

    • government construction of railroads into the middle South, promoting industrialism over the Southern plantation system.

       

    Lincoln spelled out his underlying republican philosophy, and shot his barbs at the aristocratic bankers, in his Annual Address to Congress, Dec. 3, 1861:

     

    "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. Capital has its rights, which are as worthy of protection as any other rights. Nor is it denied that there is, and probably always will be, a relation between labor and capital, producing mutual benefits. The error is in assuming that the whole labor of the community exists within that relation. .... In most of the southern States, a majority of the whole people of all colors are neither slaves nor masters; while in the northern a large majority are neither hirers nor hired....

    "Many independent men everywhere in these States, a few years back in their lives, were hired laborers. The prudent, penniless beginner in the world, labors for wages awhile, saves a surplus with which to buy tools or land for himself; then labors on his own account another while, and at length hires another new beginner to help him. This is the just, and generous, and prosperous system, which opens the way to all-gives hope to all, and consequent energy, and progress, and improvement of condition to all. No men living are more worthy to be trusted than those who toil up from poverty -- none less inclined to take, or touch, aught that they have not honestly earned. Let them beware of surrendering a political power which they already possess, and which, if surrendered, will surely be used to close the door of advancement against such as they, and to fix new disabilities and burdens upon them, till all of liberty shall be lost .... "

    On Dec. 28, 1861, the New York banks suspended payment of gold owed to their depositors, and stopped transferring to the government the gold which they had pledged for the purchase of government bonds. The banks of other cities immediately followed suit.

  •  

    Every bank director had to be an American citizen, and three-quarters of a bank's directors had to be residents of the state in which the bank did business.

    Each bank was limited, in the interest rate it could charge, by the strictures of its state's usury laws; or if none were in effect, then to 7%. If it were caught exceeding this limitation, it would forfeit the loan in question and would have to refund to the victimized borrower twice what he had paid in interest.

    Banks could not hold real estate for more than five years, aside from bank buildings.

    A national bank had to deposit with the Treasury, U.S. bonds amounting to at least one-third of its capital. It would receive in return government-printed notes, which it could circulate as money. Thus the banks would have to lend the government substantial sums for the war effort, to qualify for federal charters, and a sound currency would be circulated to the public for an expanding economy.

    Meanwhile, national banks could not circulate notes printed by themselves. In order to eliminate all competition with the new national currency, the notes of state-chartered banks were hit with a massive tax in the following year.

     

     

    Wed, 09/15/2010 - 05:59 | 582749 Sudden Debt
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    American's are the most scarypants people on the planet.

    This little clip explains it all through a history lesson: 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nus9BZlAfQ

    Wed, 09/15/2010 - 03:57 | 582710 CEOoftheSOFA
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    How could you include quotes from Lincoln and Wilson?  Lincoln jailed 15,000 disadents, closed 60 newspapers for printing anti-war editorials, suspended habeous corpus, ordered the army to attack civilians,  declared Marshall law in two states, planned to deport all the Blacks, massacered the Plains and Sioux, and oh yeah, declared war on half of America. 

    Wilson was just as bad.  He signed the Espionage Act of 1917 which extended the meaning of espionage to include giving a dissenting opinion on the war.  Then he signed the Sedition Act of 1918 which made it a felony to speak out against the war.  He forced the US post office to stop delivering 75 newspapers because of anti-war editorials.  He promised to stay out of WW1 in his reelection campaign, but within months of the election he was sending troups to Europe in one of the most unnecessary wars in history.      

    Wed, 09/15/2010 - 07:48 | 582820 Sudden Debt
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    To add a little more:

    1. Lincoln allowed weapon trading with the south and had a financial interest in the trade. Weapons that killed his own men.

    He put ordered the navy blockade because the French where supplying the South with cheaper weapons then the North did.

    2.  He introduced the "Captured and Abandoned Property Act" meaning all property where the owner was not present in the north was for the first to claim it. The raiding parties at the end of the civil war where organised in order to claim these first. And the raiders who claimed the properties sold these at very low prices to Lincoln insiders.

    3. Or Lincoln's Blanket memorandum during the war : “Any person or persons engaged in bringing out Cotton, in strict conformity with authority given by W. P. Fessenden, Secretary of the U. S. Treasury, must not be hindered by the War, Navy, or any other Department of the Government, or any person engaged under any of said Departments.”52  

    Cotton plucked by slaves, remember.

    4. Lincoln's "Bank war"

    Any bank supporting "Free Trade" was being boycotted. This was again to keep the trade he helped organize keep being profitable and to keep competitors OUT.

     

    History isn't always what Hollywood has made out of it. Every time a Hollywood blockbuster makes a "historic" movie, it makes me cry for the stupidity.

     

    Wed, 09/15/2010 - 04:36 | 582715 Rick64
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     You bring up some very good points. Everybody thinks this kind of thing didn't happen because you can't find it in the history books, and if it is there they distort it. Even the Founding Forefathers only had good things written about them. They were far from perfect as portrayed in history. It wasn't justified then nor is it now.

    Wed, 09/15/2010 - 00:43 | 582580 Uncle Remus
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    They're gonna ram it, ram it, ram it
    Ram it up yer poop chute
    Corn hole
    Ram it, ram it, ram it
    Ram it up yer poop chute
    Fist fuck
    Ram it, ram it, ram it
    Ram it up yer poop chute
    Wrist-watch; crisco
    Ram it, ram it, ram it
    Ram it up yer poop chute
    Pud!

    Don't fool yerself, America
    Its goin right up yer poop chute
    Don't fool yerself, America
    Its goin right up yer poop chute
    (etc., repeats)

    Aw, I knew you'd be surprised...

    [Apologies to FZ - well kinda]

    Wed, 09/15/2010 - 00:41 | 582577 George Washington
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    More fun:

    (the first clip is from NPR's science show).

    Wed, 09/15/2010 - 15:56 | 583866 DarkAgeAhead
    Wed, 09/15/2010 - 08:54 | 582889 Cruel Aid
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    Confiscating samples! With a science background, I find this is grade A Bullshit.

    And on a different subject/same theme. All of the Global Climate Change data has been corrupted for a while now by using biasing tactics, rendering it intentionally useless.

    Effing with data is at least evil.

    "Just give me some truth, All I want is some truth!

    By: you know who.

    Wed, 09/15/2010 - 13:10 | 583483 JW n FL
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    Cruel Aid,

    Did you watch the Winter Olympics?  http://news.discovery.com/tech/rain-defeats-tech-at-the-winter-olympics.html

    So the Winter Olympics... Held partly in the Northern Mountains of Vancouver... which is in British Columbia...

    Where events were postponed and artificial snow, ice and dry ice were used to keep some events from being completely canceled becuase of rain... British Columbia up in the Mountains North of Vancouver in the dead of Winter it was raining enough to almost Cancel Winter Olympic events... and Global warming is something Al Gore invented along with the internet, right?

    Shut the Fuck up! go find some place to sit fown and let the grown ups talk for a while.

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/home.html

    The last decade of the 20th Century was the warmest of the entire global instrumental temperature record, starting in the mid-19th century. All 10 years rank among the 15 warmest and include the 6 warmest years on record, which makes these high temperatures unusual for the past century. But what about in the context of past centuries or millennia? How unusual are modern temperatures compared to those of the past? It is only through the reconstruction of past climate that we can truly evaluate the magnitude of this warming.

    Tue, 09/14/2010 - 23:54 | 582494 tempo
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    The elite powerful families made trillions as they outsourced jobs from the USA.  Now they will enforce rationing (spending cuts) and pass more and more regulations/laws/fines/sanctions as civil unrest grows.  When people push back the Govt will be forced to take our freedoms.  The rich will NEVER allow for job growth.  Jobs means freedom.  Unemployment means the Govt can control our lives.  Its Sept but Nov elections are coming.  Vote for freedom.   Demand domestic content in all consumption.   Create jobs in the US.  Our children do not deserve to stand in line and beg for health care and food.   Outsourcing must stop.  We must stand up to China/India  and create US jobs.  Jobs = freedom.   Outsourcing = unemployment

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