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With Great Regret Stifel Nicolaus Informs Clients It Had To Downgrade Bank Of America To Hold
Hilarious: "We are downgrading BAC to Hold from Buy. Sadly, this action goes against our better fundamental analysis/judgment especially after the company reported 3Q10 results that we believe were better than many feared. Does the fact the company is trading at 90% of reported tangible book value of $12.91 matter? It should, in our view. But, unfortunately it doesn’t – at least not right now." In other words, "unfortunately" the sellside ponzinomics model is breaking down when the rule of law has to be followed. How "sad" indeed.
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Book value, my ar*e. Noone knows what the book value of this turkey is. All we can say with confidence is that its a lot lower than reported.
No mark-to-market, therefore, book value equals "whatever the hell I say it is."
If you mark to magic playground storybook value, BoA looks A-OK.
What a bunch of a$$ licking ANALysts..."Sadly" ??????
Agreed, yet i feel it is more like:
Financial cocaine is a hell of a drug.
"Sadly" my ass!
WTF?
Sadly we have to tell the truth just this once . . . sorta, kinda at least?
There will be a special place in hell for these sensitive types.
My own sadness will be further deepened with the downgrade of JPM to either criminal RICO scum or financial terrorist, whichever occurs first. I will need to treat my dispair with some Dom.
perpetual ass rape by bankers is sad too
Since when does emotion factor into analysis?
This "sad" report is simply the public confirmation/affirmation of the many private phone calls made to "important" clients last week. CYA after the fact.
Ok there, Stifel.
What classic douchebag sellside nonsense!!!
This type of attitude is just another cause of the 25-week public exodus from the "market".
Right, and a few weeks ago all the rage on CNBS was 'How do we rebuild investor confidence in the pirate marketplace'? Sure as hell NOT like THIS!
Well, well, looks like Time Magazine reads ZH:
http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2010/10/19/will-the-federal-reserves-next-meeting-lead-to-civil-war/
It's interesting how vehement that guy is, in stating how unthinkable it would be for people to rise up in violence against Fed policy.
IMO, he actually rather agrees with ZH's assessment, but just wants to cover his ass while pointing people to the website.
Also in the BAC report:
"However, if I really suck hard enough, I may be in line for a BAC job. So all is not lost."
Edit: My response to the Time guy is similar.
11 months ago Bob Chapman discussed BAC being used like a tampon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trLcH868ld4
Jim Willy claims that Bank of America failed two months ago, and has been covered up.
I believe it's in part two of this 3 part Max Keiser report.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ2swdKWbHE
<OT>Woohoo, look at the market go. Up almost 1% on absolutely nothing. POMO hasn't even started yet. This is a magical day indeed, Harry Bernanke must be proud. </OT>
Steifel, how does it feel to be far behind the curve? When are the layoffs going to begin?
Up across the board on Morgan Stanley bloodbath and mortgage applications down 10.5%? Truely magical marketplace, and they can keep it!
We weep for thee, BofA. Cut down in the prime of your fraud, so young, so mendacious, so full of avarice.
Unbelievable selling in BAC. That is going to leave a mark. It is only a matter of time for the rest.
Prepare for the next crisis brought to you, again, by the f'n banking sector. Surprise surprise...
People are selling BAC to buy everything else under the Sun with leverage.
Really. That "they are selling BAC" is clearly visible. The buying of everything else with leverage...well, that sounds like your hope.
They aren't buying Apple this morning. They aren't buying gold. They aren't buying solar. They aren't buying oil. No micro chips. Buying...nothing that I can see yet. No JPM. No GS. I see some buying in Boeing...but...you know...that is ONE company.
So why do you post that? You sound like a weak market long. You will prove that by disappearing from this board in the next ten minutes. The SPY topped out...and is broken, to boot.
Good luck with your "buy everything else with leverage" call. Sounds stupid to me especially as the banks go down in flames.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm Read it and study it.
If you have been here longer than 5 minutes you would see my posts where I have said that I have been buying far dated OTM puts. Also, do not believe for a second that this POMO will be small by any account, so it will be an up approx 1% EOD, barring any armageddon news. But I guess that would sound stupid to you as well.
You are partly correct. I have no opinion on the POMO, large or small. You might be right on that, you might be wrong...and I am in the dark there.
I do, however, believe buying OTM puts is stupid.
As for "armageddon news" that has already made the paper...so I'm not sure what news you are waiting to hear.
But I was wrong...you have not left in the 10 minute window. So we shall just see from here.
Well EOD may close closer to unch unless the movement in the AUDJPY starts to support this POMO rally..which so far it is not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vod9DL4IhBM
Tangible book - when 70% of assets are MARKED TO MODEL (fantasy)....hahahahaa what a farce...
Can't wait for the fecal spray of this shit storm to hit Dimons precious JPM.... That overly smug lying sack of douche.. And WFC so I can tell Munger to suck it up.. Hey charlie.. Your forehead smells like warrens balls. Assholes.. The lot of them.
This apologetic drivel passes for 'analysis'?
Bank stocks being pumped right now, BTW (other than BofA). Give it time...
Sadly I would disagree and upgrade it to "dump"
So it's front running the POMO this morning - never gets old does it?
Sadly how can you have book value when the books are cooked?
This makes zero sense. Last night Brian Kelly on Fast Money was telling me he was buying and some other smiley suit was saying BAC is going to 16.00
What was the premise for their investment?
"The fed has not come so far to not support the banks"
More proof the markets now live and breathe by what Ben had for dinner last night. What could possibly go wrong.
LOL. "ponzinomics"....I can't wait to work that into a conversation today.
And, get with the program. CNBC told me at least twice this AM that equities will be up at least 20% over the coming year or two. Yippee, I am going to be rich buying houses and bank stocks.
Bank of America is getting destroyed right now, wait till another rmbs bomb is dropped on JPM/Citi/? ....
The markets can't hide this for long. BoA may be out of business by monday.
They can not sell another bank bailout no way ...
Merge with the FED, catchy new name: Federal Reserve Bank of America ...
Still odd that the FRBNY is in on this. The complaint (posted by Ritholtz) actually reads that BAC was dragging its feet on foreclosures and thereby earning more service fees then is expected in the quid pro quo. So is the FRBNY trying to expedite foreclosures? Also, BlackRock is in on the complaint but BAC owns about half of BlackRock ...
All very convoluted, maybe the sharks are turning on each other or maybe this is more agit-prop designed to bring the MERS / REMIC debacle to a head in the courts and the endgame there is already decided ... Andy Grove anyone?
You are correct, that is what I've been saying for awhile now. They are trying to say it was just B of A but other institutions securitized also. And once you start the ball rolling, it continues to roll and it's hard to stop it. JPM may be next or CITI or another, but one thing is clear. The investors and the lawyers and the people smell blood in the water and they are going after them.
This firm is incredibly stupid......I mean give me a break.....do they really actually know what the value of the assets on their books are worth....the answer is absolutely no and if they say they don know.......their lying!! Anyone making a recommendation on banks based on fundamental value is lying....period. Most banks are worthless ponzi's at best and if it weren't for the $250,000 taxpayer insurance they would have zero deposits.
"hold" is the clever term when the mean the share price is going to fall about 20%... but you have to be an player to understand this..
"Hold" Hold my cock - it should be "buy" or "sell"
They need a new "dump like a fissile isotope" rating.
Just the messenger - Bloomberg reports "Goldman analysis suggests that, after tax loss to BAC could be 12 billion." Bloomberg also suggests that "based on the recent drop in share price (17%) the loss may already be priced in." We'll see. They used that fancy touch screen to display the data, so I tend to believe them.
Do they think this will be the only pushback? The european investors, the state/union pension's do they have lawyers?.... What about the court cost ? The selling is massive in the first hour....
I was reading about Lehman going under for weeks before that happened everyone telling me to buy the dip.....
BoA is finished ...
I wonder what the BoA Board of Directors did
to piss the elite off? I get this nagging feeling that they are being set up to be the sacrificial lamb/peace offering to an increasingly enraged public. I hope it doesn't work. All of the banksters must go down.
Doesn't the interweaving of CDS exposure pretty much guarantee one TBTF for all?
Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett are at a bar having a few.
Buffett: Hey, Charlie, what do you get when you put nuts on a wall?
Charlie: I dunno.
Buffett: Walnuts. What to you get when you put nuts on your chest?
Charlie: Uh, I get it. Chestnuts.
Buffett: OK, what do you get when you have nuts on your chin?
Charlie: Huh? Chin nuts?
Buffett unzips his fly and sticks his cock in Charlie's mouth. Laughing, he says, no, cock in mouth.
And then pulls his limp member out of said mouth and says ... "Thats how you do it, now go see ben first, then ..."
Gods of war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ptOP0UrnJU
count down to zero.......
"We are downgrading BAC to Hold from Buy.
Wall Street speak for SELL
"Hold from Buy" is like Newspaper speak for "Tragedy", which means "funny as hell".
I hear the next financial instrument to save BoA will be yesterday's discarded OTB slips blended 90-10 with MBS. Can I put you down for 500 Billion, China?
Hey I'm all in
The Charlotte NBC affiliate (WCNC) had a breakdown on how much BAC was losing per time period last night on the 5:30 nooz.
$962.41. Per minute. We laughed our asses off.
That's $57,744.60/hour.
I'm raising my hourly rate.
Downgrade that shit to R for Roadkill. Scrape it off the highway, grind it up and make burgers for the cafeteria on 1111 Constitution Avenue Northwest, Washington D.C. 20004 and the Capitol. Eat your own cooking, a-holes.
Hypocrisy and irony as the emperor and his entire court of jesters, fools and general sycophants are revealed to be naked and embroiled in a massive last gasp orgy.
Thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I feel strongly about it and love learning more on this topic.
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