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As Greece Sells 3 Month Debt At Record 4.1% Yield, CreditSights Explains The Negative Downstream Effects Of A Greek Restructuring

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Tue, 04/19/2011 - 07:30 | 1183249 ZeroPower
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Wow.. parking some funds in Greece until summer will give you 4%, not bad. And 10yr sitting at over 14.6%. BUT - good news. 5yr CDS tighter today!

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 07:31 | 1183250 DB Cooper
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Someone tell me how to buy Greek debt as this will surely lead them to default and we can get on with this.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 07:35 | 1183258 AUD
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Bond speculators speculating on being able to flip Greek 3m to the ECB?

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 07:39 | 1183261 milanitaly
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Italian Finance minister Tremonti said today that is time to discuss the european threaty. (time to print money?)


Tue, 04/19/2011 - 07:57 | 1183285 Dick Darlington
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Wouldn't expect anything less from Italy than suggest something as suicidal as that. Italy has unsustainable debt load and poor growth prospects and the politicians in Europe know that they have already lost the game. So why not proceed to the next "kick the can" -act in this perverse show and start printing money outright. History shows that will solve all the problems in the world, right...

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 07:38 | 1183263 Sudden Debt
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Even 4% a day would be risky!


Tue, 04/19/2011 - 07:53 | 1183280 reload
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Quite so.

And in related news: Spanish 10yr yieds look like they are going to have another go at breaking north. Are the ECB frantically buying that shite as well?



Tue, 04/19/2011 - 07:50 | 1183278 Cant see me
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What exactly would happen if they just defaulted?

What would that mean to the average Joe?

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 07:53 | 1183282 Sudden Debt
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1. Big pension funds will go belly up. Old people would have to eat less chicken and more grass.

2. Countries who buy each others debt (while have mountains of it themselves... go figure...) would get into even more shit and also risk to go above 120% GDP

3. All funding would need to come from inside of Greece : Huge tax raises. Industry would get out of Greece.

4. All government workers would lose their jobs.

5. No more infrastructural investments: Go dirt roads.


There are about 1000 implications and none of them is good.



Tue, 04/19/2011 - 08:23 | 1183346 topcallingtroll
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when the tulip mania crashed everyone netted out their trades and apparently it wasn't that bad according to the history books.

Won't this all net out to maybe a couple of really big losers and most people not noticing much?

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 08:38 | 1183386 Sudden Debt
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let's interview some of those traders who witnessed the tulip mania...

the "stock market" back then consisted out of about 100 people and it took about 4 weeks to carry a message from holland to spain back then.




Tue, 04/19/2011 - 09:10 | 1183460 DeadFred
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All those dirt roads and potholes... Hmmm.  Who is the biggest autoparts supplier in Greece?

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 08:04 | 1183302 the not so migh...
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they are a old dried up, crusted up hairy gryro

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 08:26 | 1183356 topcallingtroll
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The ECU has lost their credibility with the sheeple now, not just the zero heads.


They quietly allowed all the big banks to hedge and reposition all the while maintaining publicly that a default was not in the cards.

If a business did this they would be guilty of securities fraud, but a government can make false pronouncements and quietly allow the connected to get prepared.

Now no one will believe them that spain is contained.  This is going to be might interesting.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 08:32 | 1183377 taraxias
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How would they hedge? Who's stupid enough to be on the other side of that bet?

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 08:39 | 1183392 topcallingtroll
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I guess we are going to find out when all these cross trades get netted out eventually.  There are a number of indirect hedges that might suffice to mitigate some of the damage.

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 09:24 | 1183486 RichyRoo
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Tue, 04/19/2011 - 08:45 | 1183400 Sudden Debt
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The ECU is synonym for silver coin :)

I actually have many, and their value keeps going up on a daily basis.

I think you mean EURO.

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