Greek Bonds Collapse As ECB's Nowotny Announces Bank Will Compromise, Agree To "Temporary" Greek Default

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Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:32 | 1469567 Salah
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Ho-Ho-Ho.  Let's see what kind of wet blanket this provides to the elevated futures this am.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:36 | 1469577 Ray745
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This happened overnight around 1-2 a.m. EST, futures took it as good news, hence their elevatedness originally

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:01 | 1469659 bob_dabolina
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No futures are up because China prevented ice9 from seizing up the system by buying European bonds overnight. 

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:16 | 1469711 Arius
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Futures are up until they go down ... the trick is to buy low and sell high ... its the old saying: know when to hold them and when to fold them.

Or just sit in there like the deer ... until the car kills u ...

 

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:36 | 1469738 i-dog
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Bingo. China is the bagman helping to keep both EUR and USD afloat until TPTB are ready to pull the plug. Minor skirmishes between some US players (eg. the DSK setup) and some EU players (eg. the Murdoch hoo-hah) attempting to advance their position in the final dénouement keep the bout interesting, but there are still many rounds to go.

Of course, being a centrally planned bout, someone in the audience could jump the ring and deck the referee at any time...at which point the master plan could go pear-shaped......

Pass the popcorn, bitchez!

Oh, and PS: IMO, none of the CBs are planning on this WWE farce going on more than (or much less than) another 15 months.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:07 | 1469683 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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It ain't good news.

Swan Lake: Europe

Europe has had a long history of succumbing to futile lords after achieving great strides in wealth creation, if that be philosophically or financially.  Its Whiteness is one of blinding light, where memories of past broken trusts were forgotten in favor of  promised future gains.  Europe is the epitome of why not to trust private banks.  A society can accumulate wealth, and reinvest for the future, but if the proxie government is in charge of the funds, and usury is being used to compound growth, then the result will be failure, because along the way the system will pick the pocket of the first investor.  Banking is nothing but a ponzi scheme.  Loans can facilitate growth, but when those in charge are most concerned with making profits for themselves, there will be nothing left for the initial investors....

Swan Lake- Europe:

http://lhmarketwatch.blogspot.com/2011/04/swan-lake-europe.html

 

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:29 | 1469758 chumbawamba
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Yes, those damn futile lords!  Everything they do leads to complete uselessness.  Will they ever learn?

- Chumblez.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:52 | 1469629 Reggie Middleton
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The German banks may not be pregnant with Greek debt, but they are the leading financiers of CRE about to be rolled over and a rate spurt caused by a Greek default will push already anemic CRE values down just in time to create an equity gap in said rollovers. One should expect the planners that be to of throught these things through a little more thoroughly. Reference http://boombustblog.com/BoomBustBlog/Now-That-We-All-Agree-Greece-Will-Default-What-Happens-As-A-Result.html

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:12 | 1469698 bugs_
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The PLANNERS that be  (lol!)

we can all agree

say default is temporary

to keep jobs at the E-C-B

 

 

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:32 | 1469568 Debt Rolling
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Where can I sign to get a guaranteed 40% annualized return on my money? Lol...

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:37 | 1469581 disabledvet
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you can go to Greece. And you can dollar cost average it if you like...depending on your risk tolerance of course. If you have money just "laying around" (or is it lying?) why not?

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:08 | 1469688 snowball777
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Comex.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:32 | 1469569 ads56
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Very bullish. This will send Apple over $400.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:33 | 1469570 papaswamp
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the next question is will we see this spread to the others?

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:34 | 1469574 Quintus
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I would have expected Irish and Portuguese yields to rise on this news, but oddly they are declining.  I wonder how long that will last?

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:37 | 1469580 NoClueSneaker
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Definately ... untill one of the EU-Countries commits a jail-break ...

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:01 | 1469665 midtowng
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It's already spreading to the others. Ireland and Portugal are priced out of the debt markets. How long can the ECB keep both of those countries afloat? If interest rates don't come down then eventually both of them will default too.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:34 | 1469573 throughthewire
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The Mother of All Depressions is well underway.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:21 | 1469726 Bang Dae Ho
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Hopefully she leaves her husband at home = 'Vater aller Dinge' = father of all things = German metaphor for war.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:38 | 1469586 MsCreant
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Is this the detonator? Default = Default. A rose by any other name still smells like napalm in the morning. Holy shit.

Or, this could be one of those test firings. I can't think of the term, you trot out a type of horse as a test balloon for an idea???

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:52 | 1469630 Salah
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Maybe the term you're looking for is "trigger mechanism".  It's like the old saw, "being a little bit pregnant"; if they're doing a 'temporary default' wouldn't that imply lots of financial firewalls, firehoses, and designed backfires, etc?  See any? Really, are the Europeans capable of this level of preparatory humility?  I question the entire culture here, it's got h_u_b_r_i_s writ large.

Walter Russell Mead said it best a few days back: "Look, for example, at Europe.  Not since the 1930s has the incompetence, incapacity and selfish shortsightedness of Europe’s governing class been so shockingly on display.  For eighteen solid months Europeans have been trying and failing to come to grips with the economic crisis of the eurozone.  And for eighteen months they have ignominiously failed."

Maybe this is where they need to start on the reprogramming their mindset: http://www.eastglenvillefd.com/_mgxroot/page_10845.html

 

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:10 | 1469693 cosmictrainwreck
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not just failed, but ignominiously failed (bitchez)

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:14 | 1469704 Cleanclog
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Again, I think the term is "repudiation".  Debt saturation => repudiation.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:35 | 1469765 knukles
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A missed coupon payment by any other name is a ... uh... oh, moratorium...deferral, temporary impairment? 
Pass the Synonyms for Dummies

But what's best is the ECB agrees that...
Like "Well, OK, we'll let you go into default but just this one time."
(Delusion of Control.  But then again, must at least posture...)
As if the ECB has any say in the matter.

The Imitation Stalking Horse Delusion.

(Oh and PS, I owe you the response you'd requested.)

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:38 | 1469790 MsCreant
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Stalking horse, that's it!!! Thanks.

Look forward to it, no rush. You do not seem to be about rabid, random hatred (unless banksters or corpulent corporate hucksters are involved) so I will enjoy the discussion when you have the time.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:34 | 1469771 chumbawamba
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One may hope, but I've grown cynical (and older) waiting for the moment when I can finally inhale again.

We wait and we see.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:19 | 1469943 MsCreant
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You can't fool me sweetness, I know you inhale. ;-)

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:39 | 1469587 bigwavedave
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there is a german solution in the works. the only solution that will be adopted will be a german solution. nuff said

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:40 | 1469590 MsCreant
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Holocaust seems about right.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:21 | 1469728 gmrpeabody
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How much cost would a holocaust cause is a holocaust could cause cost?

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:46 | 1469822 gofigure
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now that's not funny!  no wait, yes it is, lol

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:52 | 1469840 aheady
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Yeah, it is. Very funny.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 13:25 | 1470883 stewie
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lol, very nice.  If you allow me...

A Holocaust causally casting it's cast caused costly cost to caucasian caucus Kauss & Co.

 

:o)

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:43 | 1469603 snowball777
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So you think Merkel the Urkle is ready to commit political seppuku on behalf of the geniuses at DB?

<presses start on microwave>

Pop...pop...pop.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:20 | 1469950 AnAnonymous
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there is a german solution in the works.

 

So far there have been only german solution, the City(Britain), Wall Street (US) are all located in ethnically german countries.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:39 | 1469589 Cole Younger
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I have to ask, when is a default considered temporary?

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:41 | 1469593 qussl3
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When taxpayers take the hit.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:42 | 1469597 MsCreant
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I called my loan servicer and told them I was in temporary default, just until my next paycheck. Like that? Maybe they could go to one of those cash for titles places and get a lil bit to hold them over, just till the end of the week when they get paid.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:45 | 1469607 snowball777
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They should try the idea floating around here to solve the US debt problem and just let people kick G-Pap in the sack for a few zooro each.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:26 | 1469748 Uncle Remus
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transient

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:42 | 1469600 AUD
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The default you have when you're not having a default?

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:42 | 1469595 Archimedes
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Big deal! Laszlo Birinyi just said the S&P is going to 2,000 in the next 13 months! </sarc>

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:46 | 1469612 snowball777
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<rotates Laszlo's chart 180 degrees for him>

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:42 | 1469596 Saxxon
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Look at those futures!  The Governments obviously have it under control.  Gold's overbought and will correct a few days.  Load AAPL for another blowout quarter!

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:44 | 1469598 bank guy in Brussels
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As Gomez Addams said in 'The Addams Family' films, it's ...

SHOWTIME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOvscpTgI7c

 

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:47 | 1469617 snowball777
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The Aristocrats!

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 08:45 | 1469608 High Plains Drifter
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one would think such news would make metals go skyward.   but no. they are under attack. hmmmm?????

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:01 | 1469667 Larry Darrell
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Don't forget, with central planning everything is coordinated.  Gonna release some news that would send gold/silver screaming higher...........go ahead and let your pals know there are large margin hikes coming for the metals.

It wouldn't surprise me to hear of margin hikes later today.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 09:47 | 1469824 High Plains Drifter
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cramer just said a while ago that he doesn't know anyone who owns gold. yet they should. same with me. nobody cares about. nobody i know (except me) owns any and they don't want to talk about it either. so this bull is just getting started really...

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