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Greek Fiscal Crisis to Neoliberal Oligarchy?
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Submitted by Leo Kolivakis, publisher of Pension Pulse.
A couple of items for you to consider this Sunday. First, BNN spoke to Kenneth Matziorinis (click on hyperlink to watch interview), president of Hellas Capital. Ken is a Montreal based economic consultant who runs Canbek Economics. He recently wrote this comment on the Greek fiscal crisis which I share with my readers:
Greece has one of the highest debt-GDP ratios in the Eurozone (113%), one of the highest budget deficits (12.7% of GDP) and one of the highest foreign debt ratios of all the countries in the zone (gross debt of 150% of GDP). When the newly elected government of George Papandreou was elected last Fall, they shocked markets by reporting that the previous government of Constantine Karamanlis had left them with a much larger budget deficit that had previously been reported, so it obviously spooked markets and forced the question, is Greece solvent and will it meet its payments on its Euro 300 billion (CAD 450) public sector debt. Bond markets reacted immediately to the news and pushed up the risk premium demanded on Greek government debt to almost 400 basis points above the German bunds, the benchmark for the Eurozone. The cost of insuring Greek debt obligations in the form of credit default swaps (CDS) rose immediately and credit rating agencies such as Fitch, S&P and Moody’s downgraded Greek government debt and placed them on negative watch, which implies further downgrades are in the pipeline unless the Greek government comes up with drastic measures to resolve the problem.
One of the issues that has compounded this problem is Greece’s waning credibility in that it has underreported both its debt and GDP figures in the past and has a history of not adhering fully to the criteria imposed on the monetary union by the Maastricht Treaty. Also, Greece’s economy has had chronic structural problems of an over-bloated public sector, burdensome bureaucracy and is not sufficiently competitive.
Are all of Greece’s problems of it’s own making?
Although Greece is largely responsible for its fiscal problem, there have also been factors external to the Greek economy. What have been these factors? First, the global financial crisis that broke out in 2008 and the global economic downturn that followed from it. Although the Greek banking sector remained sound and was not exposed to toxic assets as other European banks were, it affected the economy negatively especially through the impact it had on its trade in services. Tourism and maritime shipping are the two most important sources of income and both were badly hit by the global crisis. Second, part of the blame goes to the European Central Bank which in the early years of the millennium, kept interest rates lower than it should to accommodate the export-driven industrial part of the Euroeconomy, namely Germany, France and the Netherlands. By setting rates lower this benefited the Northern tier of the Eurozone but created lax monetary conditions for the Southern tier, Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Spain and Italy, not to mention the non-Euro countries its Eastern periphery including Hungary and the Baltics. Third, the appreciation of the Euro from less than USD 1.00 to over USD 1.50 since 2003 has undermined its competitiveness and since it no longer controls the value of its currency as Canada or the UK can, has been forced into a straight-jacket.
Why has the Greek fiscal crisis made the top of world news, is Greece, economically that important?
No, Greece is not that important. It’s economy accounts for less that 4% of the Eurozone economy and its total public debt is around Euro 300 billion, much less than the bailouts of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, AIG, Royal Bank of Scotland or Citicorp, to name only a few.
There are two reasons why Greece has become so important in the news. 1) Because it is the first stress-test case of the underlying stability of the European Monetary Union (EMU). When the EMU was formed and launched the common currency euro-skeptics argued that the European economy is too diverse to support a stable common currency. Moreover, unless countries agree to unite their fiscal policies and unify their public debts, a currency union will not last. Greece’s situation now proves their point and raises the question: will this lead to a break-up of the EMU? Will Greece be forced out of the EMU and back to the Drachma? If so, this undermines the credibility of the Maastricht Treaty, the soundness of the EMU, the strength of the euro as an emerging reserve currency and questions the soundness of the Euro institutions and reduces Europe’s status as a global economic and political power. 2) When most advanced industrial countries with large entitlement programs look at Greece’s current fiscal woes they see themselves, one, two or three years down the road and this alarms them! Let us not forget that Italy and Spain (Eurozone’s #3 and #4 largest economies, followed by Japan, the UK and the USA are not that far behind. When the bond market pays closer attention to what is happening in Greece, then they will start paying more attention to the growing fiscal problems of other countries that raises the question, who is next? (we all hope it is not the behemoth).
What has been the response of the Greek government so far?
The Greek government has drafted and started implementing a deficit reduction plan that aims to reduce Greece’s budget deficit by 4% to 8.7% in 2010 and down to 3% by 2012. This plan was submitted to the European Commission in Brussels and was approved with reservations. Public sector wages were frozen, supplemental compensation cut by as much as 10%, short-term contracts cancelled, fuel taxes raised, among many other measures. Despite being the most draconian set of austerity measures applied in Greece in the post-war era, the austerity plan has failed to satisfy markets because of Greece’s credibility gap. The Greek plan has been criticized for failing to introduce immediate cuts in public sector wages and government spending. Given the chronic nature of Greece’s structural problems, the solution must also be structural in nature, and this requires more time to effectively implement, than the markets are willing to give Greece at this time. Thus despite these measures, markets have not only maintained pressure on Greece but the spreads of other South European nations’ debt obligations have started to widen as well, indicating that Greece’s situation had become ‘contagious’ and could spread to other eurozone members.
What has been the response of Brussels and the EU so far?
The European Commission and ECB have been forced to deal with a dilemma. If they act to bailout Greece, it creates a moral hazard problem where they reward the spendthrift member while asking the frugal members to pay for the consequences and this action risks undermining the credibility of the euro. If they don’t, and Greece is forced to insolvency two other problems get created: 1) the crisis spreads to other EMU members such as Portugal, Spain and Italy in which case the whole EMU goes down and 2) most Greek debt is owed to German and French banks who would be forced to take a large haircut, not to mention that many of the issuers of credit default swaps are German financial institutions and they will be forced to pay out the insurance, very much as what happened with AIG when Lehman Brothers went down. What ultimately precipitated the global financial breakdown in 2008 was the US Treasury’s refusal to bail out Lehman, and when that ‘mistake’ was done, world markets reacted in a panic and this brought down the whole financial house of cards. Brussels, the ECB and most of all Berlin are very mindful of what happened then and they do not wish a repeat of the same story a second time around, especially inside the Eurozone.
Thus, although the Maastricht Treaty and the present Euro institutions do not now allow for one member nation to take on the debt of the other, individual nations can still offer assistance on a bilateral basis should they choose to. One practical and relatively inexpensive way to do this is if countries such as Germany and France offer to guarantee some of the debts of the Greek government –especially those that are maturing over the next three months (approximately 45-50 billion euros) in order to buy time for the Greek government to implement it’s austerity plan and regain some credibility in financial markets. This was successfully done in the 1990s by the Clinton administration in the US to help out Mexico, and the Mexican government bonds guaranteed by the USA are known as the “Brady bonds”.
Moreover, since Greece is not the only country that is facing a public debt crisis in the eurozone, it would not be seen well nor be appropriate or fair to do so as a reactive measure to bail out one country. It would be better viewed as a pro-active step to reinforce existing and build new institutional mechanisms within the EMU to help all countries facing similar problems in the future.
On Thursday, February 11, 2010 European leaders met in Brussels and decided to stand together to defend the monetary union. EU President Mr. Van Rompuy told journalists that “Euro-area member states will take determined and coordinated action if needed in the euro area as a whole”. Although details of the actions contemplated were not issued at today’s meeting, the first step, which is the policy decision was made. On Monday, the Eurogroup –the council of euro-area finance ministers under the presidency of Jean-Claude Juncker- is meeting in Brussels to decide on the specifics, and at that time we should find out more about the nature of the measures contemplated by the EMU.
Will the measures taken by Greece succeed in cutting the deficit?
Greece’s fiscal problems are largely the result of a historical legacy of relying too much on the government for job creation that dates back to the 19th century following the creation of the Greek state. They were compounded in the 1980s by the populist measures of then Prime Minister Andreas Papandreou, whose socialist policies led to a massive increase in Greece’s debt and printing money to hand out entitlements to the Greek population. An interesting aspect of this “Greek Tragedy” is that now the son (current PM George Papandreou) is being called upon to pay for his father’s fiscal sins.
I believe that the austerity and structural reform measures that were announced by the Greek government will work, although they will need to be reinforced by additional actions and may take a little longer to complete. Why? For the following four reasons: 1) The fiscal problems have resulted from a lack of political will to initiate bold reforms and public resistance to correct the structural problems of the country. Although Greeks always complain and resist cutbacks in entitlements they are not fools, they know they are living beyond their means and they know that radical changes are necessary. This crisis has provided the catalyst to carry out all these reforms. 2) Greece will never risk leaving the monetary union because it has brought benefits such as low interest rates, economic stability, rising living standards and appreciation of assets that they have never enjoyed before. Income restraint for a few years as long as it involves structural reforms to safeguard these benefits is a good price to pay. 3) Greece needs its membership in the EU and the EMU as a matter of national security, in the face of an aggressive Turkey on their border. Public opinion polls show a greater than 60% approval of the actions taken by the Greek government so far and Prime Minister Papandreou’s popularity rating has gone up, a surprise to the skeptics. The public union strike on Wednesday brought far less people on the streets of Athens than anybody expected while the farmers’ blockades of highways have fizzled out due to lack of public support. The budget deficit in January 2010 came in 39% below that of January, 2009. 4) Greece’s tax system is highly dysfunctional and inefficient while there is still a large underground economy in place. Rationalizing the tax system can bring huge new revenue to the government while rationalizing the state bureaucracy can save huge sums without resorting to salary cuts. Just an interesting point to note, there is effectively no property tax in Greece!
Will this crisis bring down the European currency union?
No. A United Europe is still a project under construction. This is one more challenge in its process of integration. In a global environment of super states like the USA, China and others, European states are too small to defend their interests and be counted. They very much need a strong and cohesive union, not only economic but also political and this crisis, far from leading to the break up of the common currency will actually provide the impetus for the further integration of the European states. They will either stand together or they will fall together! European integration is a one way street.
I will also add that Greece spends roughly 4% of its GDP on defense. Who benefits from this spending? The US, the UK, France and Germany. What are the chances that Greece curbs military spending? Given the tensions with Turkey, and the fact that military spending is big business, not very likely.
The second item I want to bring to your attention is a recent interview with Michael Hudson on the new Junk Economics: From Democracy to Neoliberal Oligarchy. Listen to this interview very carefully and his comments on neoclassical economics, government deficits, Greece, and how the Obama administration is implementing policies that will weaken labor. Trust me, you won't find this stuff on CNN. It exposes the hard truths on our global economic system. It's simply brilliant.
Guns and Butter - The New Junk Economics: From Democracy to Neoliberal Oligarchy - February 10, 2010 at 1:00pm
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+1 on the interview leo, one of your best posts, stick with this, less solar and dips
""If we start now, where do we stop?" Michael Fuchs, deputy head of Merkel's conservatives in parliament, told Welt am Sonntag newspaper"
How very short,but very telling......................
My apologies, double post
Listen to this interview very carefully and his comments on neoclassical economics, government deficits, Greece, and how the Obama administration is implementing policies that will weaken labor. Trust me, you won't find this stuff on CNN. It exposes the hard truths on our global economic system. It's simply brilliant.
Hudson is one of the people who i hear every few years, who read the same works of Adam Smith which I did. I don't know what the neo-classicists read, but their distortion of "free market capitalism" has proven itself intellectually, morally, and in every practicality, bankrupt. They are like Neo-Conservatives with credit and interest rates, instead of bombs and drones.
I thought I was getting too old for one last fight. When you get old, things start to make no sense. Robbing a bank is illegal. The Banks, Fed, and Gov't robbing the People is called "free market capitalism" and has the buy-in of most of the nation.
Victims of some brutally totured logic, people seem to want more of it. They think it hasn't been effective, because there hasn't been enough. They seem oblivious to the fact, from each encounter with the oligarchy, they leave with less than which they came. They haven't figured out, you never try to get a blowjob from a carnivore.
If ZH sees Adam's capitalism in the way which Hudson frames it... and that's the fight you wish to fight... I'm in for one last stand.
I will dust off my quill and ink, and you will get references from some very unlikely, yet very visible sites in the financial and general public spheres.
"When you get old, things start to make no sense. Robbing a bank is illegal. The Banks, Fed, and Gov't robbing the People is called "free market capitalism" and has the buy-in of most of the nation."
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! I'm only 47 and I agree with you.
After listening to the micheal hudson interview one and one half times, I must say he sees the world in two colors; black and a shade of white that has been mixed with so many other colors it may as well be black...
Maybe calling Interpol and having the world police investigate Spain is the most appropriate path to the bad boys.
folks, check this out: http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article17246.html
"I will also add that Greece spends roughly 15% of its GDP on defense. Who benefits from this spending? The US, the UK, France and Germany. "
Come on, it is only around 4.3% of GDP (last CIA factbook figure) ! All this to prevent conflict with another Nato Member ! US, UK France and Germany are shaking in their boots, indeed...
Seriously, they couldn't care less.
Blah Blah Blah This is all complete crap. NOTHING MATTERS BUT MONEY. Statements of support. Offers of monitoring assistance. Warnings pointed at speculators.
BULLSHIT.
Show me the money. Germany is NOT going to ante up money for Greece, and if they do not, Greece won't make its March refunding and THAT IS THAT. FULL STOP.
Stop the extend and pretend bullshit about support for Greece's efforts at deficit reduction. Support and confidence don't mean jack if the checkbook stays in the pocket. No one is going to bilateral write Greece a check because no one wants to fund "the lovely lives" of the Greeks. One does wonder who the translator was of that German diplomat's statement because it is gut stabbing and true.
Get the Greek gestapo ready to bust some union striker heads. That's what's coming.
Wow! Dr. Hudson was absolutely brilliant in that interview. Thank you for the link!
Nobody talks about the Olympics. That was a nice chunk of GDP down the rat hole.
Leo will Germans be welcome in Greece this summer ?
You are all welcome to Greece this summer. Take advantage of the cheaper euro to visit:
Leo some friends of mine did some trekking in the Pindhos mountains some 20 years ago and they had a great time ,is Northern Greece still undeveloped and beautiful or did the ravages of tourism take its toll.
I might take a wonder around there in September.
June is nice too but September is my favorite month. The mad crowds are long gone, the sea is still warm, weather is great but not too hot and people are more hospitable. Any time of year, Greece is simply breathtaking:
What size commission are you being paid from the Greek Tourist board or you simply being patriotic ?
Anyway you sold me Leo.
Just remember to bring along a copy of Henry Miller's The Colossus of Maroussi.
Sorry, double posted, read my comment below. And yes, there are still parts of Greece that have not been ravaged by tourism, but they are becoming rarer with each passing year!
Good stuff Leo. Karl at Market ticker has been screaming this stuff since 07. And anyone with with more than a subterranean I.Q. has already figured this out. Except those with Keynesian addled brains like yourself.
Reuters reports that Germans say euro zone may have to expel Greece: poll.
Nice post and analysis Leo.
I suppose a favorable mention for Michael Hudson on Zero Hedge can be justified on the basis of providing "balance"--except that I have always regarded the concept of journalistic "balance" as being utterly bogus, when it entails giving space to someone who is dogma-driven to the point of utter predictability. One hardly needs to listen to the latest "scintillating" interview with this tired old anticapitalist. Read any of his columns (especially on Counterpunch) and you will get the general idea.
idiot: http://economixx.100webspace.net
wtf is wrong with some people???
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"One hardly needs to listen to the latest 'scintillating' interview with this tired old anticapitalist."
And this a particularly unscintillating and non-specific complaint about the probably unlistened to Hudson interview from an utterly predictable libertarian, perhaps? Where's the beef, chief. Is there anything that Hudson says here that's untrue? If so, specify it, otherwise spare us the vomit on the rug. And the supercilious remark you make about "balance", you're an owner here? Sure sounds as though you think you are.
"One hardly needs to listen to the latest "scintillating" interview with this tired old anticapitalist."
And this a particularly unscintillating and non-specific complaint about the probably unlistened to Hudson interview from an utterly predictable libertarian, perhaps? Where's the beef, chief. Is there anything that Hudson says here that's untrue? If so, specify it, otherwise spare us the vomit on the rug. And the supercilious remark you make about "balance", you're an owner here? Sure sounds as though you think you are.
You have to ask yourself Charles - what the hell has capital done in the last 40 years ?
OK Leo, I like Hudson too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pwAFohWBL4
It is clear to me now that fiscal spending in the real economy is a dwarf when compared to the free moving hedge funds and the banking and shadow banking "industry" as a whole.
This rent seeking capital is a millstone around the neck of humanity and must be challenged
Fiscal spending on a massive scale is needed in the utilities sector to stop the rot in the productive economy.
Absurd. You'd just get expansion of production on the back of government investment into the sector. Government would be forced to input funds in perpetuity to keep the industry chugging, if they withdraw, it would collapse.
Your recommendation fixes nothing.
Well its no mystery that if you withdraw investment in anything by anyone a endeavour would decay over time. The question is it worth investing in something or not.
The fundamental flaw of western economies is the belief that you can extract large profits from Utilities be they banks or electrical infrastructure , public transport etc.
Utilities are the fabric of a economy - the ecosystem of business if you will.
A business will not thrive for long in a economy whose collective capital is being stripped over time to service a false profit that is in fact asset stripping.
A biomass of a ecosystem depends on the richness of its habitat - nature does not tolerate for long life that is dependent on the erosion of its physical capital.
Economics is in fact a branch of thermodynamics but if you are satisfied with entropy as a end game in your outlook I suppose your argument would make sense.
I am sure my validation is of no concern to you, but I offer it anyway. Your observations are astute, and you appear to be blessed with the skill of economy of word.
Even as the particles insist that the Theory of Everything eludes us, we have captured a wealth of consistency in the order of science and nature. The consensus belief system surrounding current economics is singularly arrogant in the belief it can evade fundamental principles.
Over the past 30 yrs, i have watched in abject horror as the biomechanics of the tapeworm have played out. Once connected to its host, a tapeworm injects biochemicals, which induce the host to injest that which supports the tapeworm. This is without regard for the debilitating, and eventual fatal, consequences to the host.
The belief system of the current "free market" reflex, is an abomination to the spirit of Adam Smith. His revolutionary thinking intended for his "market" to be once and for all-time, "free" of a valueless aristocracy, Land Renters, and predators.
Lest they would harm their hosts, The People, who are the heart of the "common wealth" of any nation, and the full intention of The Declaration of Independence..
The false prophets of this nurtured belief system can go fuck themselves. Because they eventually will.
The problem is, they are taking us with them.
another fine irony of our times is underlined by leo's excellent article. after the running of public fiscal deficits during the expansion phase of the 1980-current disinflationary period (in greece in part by a quasi-socialist, in the u.s. largely by "conservative" republicans), the private financial system (remembering bruce k.'s careful distinction between liquidity and solvency), at the onset of the depression, requires restrictive public fiscal policy to avoid/ameliorate the reduction in private credit to private (and public) debtors. to blame this on keynes seems a bit much. his advice was the exact opposite: run surpluses in times of plenty so as to have the ability to run deficits (for productivity enhancing ends) in times of scarcity.
Translation please?
What language do you speak master ?
Shit HOT JOB, LEO!!!!!
Great GREAT ARTICLE! (Must Read as a matter of fact)
Brady Bonds happened in 1989 and were a product of the G.H.W. Bush Administration, long before Clinton happened.
Anyone who misses listening to the scintillating Michael Hudson interview has missed an opportunity to place an intelligent context around the financial crisis and the position of the non-productive financial sector in it as opposed to the increasing impoverishment of wage and salary earning persons and families. Everywhere the dilemma is the same whether its Greece or the United States. And you're right, Leo, you're not going to hear this stuff on CNN or read about it at Bloomberg. A fabulous listen:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24654.htm
well worth listening too. most enlightening
Happy New Year China. Thank you in advance for the volatility.
I almost followed the Hudson link and then saw it was KPFA, the Radio Albania (circa 1978) of Bay Area radio stations.
Like Radio Albania back in the '70's I listen to KPFA now and then for the pure amusement of listening to left wing loonies and other nut cases rave on in the same predicable way about the same old conspiracy theory crap. The record has been stuck in the same groove for at least the last 25 years I've been listening to KPFA.
If your commentary has real value then find some other way of getting it out there. Associating yourself with KPFA and their ilk automatically make you a nut case in the eyes of those of us who genuinely looks for alternative views. KPFA is just a new left / 68 insane asylum full of DSM IV cases.
"Associating yourself with KPFA and their ilk automatically make you a nut case in the eyes of those of us..."
Fallacy of Guilt by Association
Logically invalid argument. This is a common one folks.
Dennis Wilson met Charles Manson => Dennis is an axe murderer.
Dennis may have been a hack drummer who murdered many a BB song in concert, but...
I happen to agree with a lot of Professor Hudson's analysis. You can read Michael Hudson often at CounterPunch
Do you have names, i.e. Fallacy of Ad Hominem Attacks, for Alexander Cockburn as well Anony?
AC was bravely exposing Global Warming claptrap from the left flank for years. I don't have to agree with everything on CounterPunch to respect various contributors.
PROCLAMATION: the definitive authority on KPFA (Anony #230714, who listens 'now and then') has deemed the above commentary to be:
'same old crap, left wing looney amusement'
This based solely upon the point of origin of broadcast, namely Albania --I mean Berkeley.
Permission to ignore commentary is thus granted.
SO? Short Speedos?
Everyone must learn to say no and stick to it.
1) Greece can't be competitive with a currency that they can't devalue,
unless they sell products nobody else can produce.
2) The only way for Greece to reduce the government sector is to have much higher salaries in the private sector (so that people prefer to work in the private sector), and lower taxes for small and medium size businesses.
How involved was Goldman Sucks in turning Greece ( and all other nations)into their (Goldman Sucks') personal fortunes?
Can the Greek economy realistically withstand a combination of tax increases and budget cuts equal to 10% of GDP by 2012? If not, what then.