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Greek Parliament Preparing Evacuation Tunnel Ahead Of Wednesday Vote On IMF Bailout, General Strike And Parliamentary Blockade

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June 15, the day of a general strike in Greece, is also the day when the critical "mid-term agreement" between the insolvent country and the Troica will be voted on by the general assembly. "The agreement includes tax increases, slashing of
wages and pensions and the lay-off of approximately more 100,000 civil
servants in the next few years." Already the blog Occupied London has called for a blockade of the Athens parliament: "Last night (June 11th) the popular assembly of Syntagma square
announced a call to blockade the Greek parliament ahead of the voting of
the so-called Mid-term agreement between the Greek government and the
troika (IMF/ECB/EU). The call-out for the blockade below is one of the most important acts
we have seen by the Syntagma assembly so far. June 15th is gearing up
to become a historical day in Greece, a crucial chance to block off the
charge-ahead of neoliberalism here. Don’t be a spectator to this – translate and disseminate the text
below; organise a gathering where you are, or come join us at Syntagma.
This is the struggle for and of our lives.
" Needless to say, should the vote pass, and should the Parliament be blockaded, which it will be, the chances of politicians to leave general assembly unscathed may be compromised. Which is why we were not surprised to learn, courtesy of Covering Delta, that the Greek parliament has hired foreign workers to clean out the underground tunnel which leads from the parliament to the port of Piraeus (soon to be privatized) in order to avoid what some fear may be the popular lynchings of MPs by the disgruntled masses.

From Covering Delta:

I just became aware of this report from Kontra channel here in Greece. Apparently, a tunnel that leads from Lykavitos to the Greek parliament, and from there to the sea port of Piraeus, is being cleaned out by foreign workers in preparation for the possible evacuation of Greek MP’s in the event of a storming of parliament ahead of wednesday’s vote on the new memorandum.

The situation here is getting completely out of control. I really don’t know how much longer the people will be willing to wait this thing out. The mood here in Athens is one of intense disillusionment with a government that seems increasingly detached from its own people.

In the spirit of 2011 being a (slightly delayed) carbon copy of 2010, what May 6th was  to 2010, June 15 just may end up being for 2011. The vote is expected to come in the late morning on Wednesday EDT, so there will be enough time to observe the market's reaction should violence return to Athens.

 

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Mon, 06/13/2011 - 18:52 | 1366114 Manthong
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Haven't they heard of big hollow wooden horses?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:15 | 1366160 flacon
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The other option is that Greece goes to the renewed Drachma - prints their way out and hyperinflates the renewed Drachma. 

 

Which scheme is worse? Until the Greek populace changes their mind about "statism" (Communism/Socialism/Marxism/Leninism etc) then they will have to pay for the sins of such. They will have to pay anyway - but they can choose the right way for the sake of their offspring, even knowing they will have to pay the penalty themselves. 

I don't see a solution to this other than the population swearing off "statism" for good. Suppose they kill all their politicians - then what? Suppose they get a bail out - then what? suppose they get their own currency - then what? Suppose they go to gold and silver - then what? Any way they choose there is misery ahead. 

If you don't work [produce]; you don't eat. Enough said!

 

PS: Don't forget that "Capitalism" caused this, therefore the population will want an alternative - STATISM will save them.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:18 | 1366184 High Wire
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No one on the socialist to capitalist spectrum has been spared the current dilema.  Greece is just first.

I think a declaration of odious debt is another possibility regarding the current situation. 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:55 | 1366272 flacon
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The groups of people I have found in the "west" who will be spared are in the North East USA and South Western Canada - they call themselves "Amish" or "Old Mennonite". 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:12 | 1366771 knukles
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Yup.  Them Cadillac communistia New York financial elite and privileged, via the Life and Style sections of the New York Times shall re-image themselves as Prada bedecked modern Amish, forgoing Japanese imports as unseemly unhealthy as they Pilate their way to cocktails at the Metropolitan Museum's annual Save the Whale formal dinner hosted by Al Gore to be entertained by Earth Wind and Fire, dining on an all natural organic squab dinner which actually consists of diseased pigeons caught unable to fly in Central Park.

Slightly early in the year, but may they all choke to death on their fucking holiday dinners.

Wed, 06/15/2011 - 01:41 | 1370077 I am a Man I am...
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naked capitalism says this is a hoax

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:18 | 1366185 taraxias
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What "statism" you moron?

The Greek elite, supported by the banking cartel, have rapped the Greek people since the end of WWII and you are talking about "statism" for fuck sakes. Do your own reserach and don't listen to paid MSM propaganda. What needs to collapse, and it will, in Greece is the kleptocratic system established by the Greek elite and their foreign cohorts.

Pericles is turning in his grave.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:25 | 1366203 flacon
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Hello Mr. Polite, 

 

Unless you are raised in a Greek culture you won't understand. True, I am an expat, but was raised on a Greek island and know the culture. Oh, it's ciesta time, I'll finish this after I take my nap... At least it's not a Wednesday because I'm closed from noon until 9am Thursday or when ever I decide to open up and talk to you again. 

 

The expression is "Etzi Kietzi" - which means "Take it easy"... 

 

 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:40 | 1366246 taraxias
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Etzi Kietzi means take it easy????

What do you know, my two years in Greece with Siemens were a complete waste. All this time I thought "etzi ketzi" means "so so"......

Fuck, you guys, are clueless. 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:56 | 1366589 Armando Javier ...
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I love reading posts by angry people.  You need a rap on your head.  Or is that rape on your head?  I love it when posters call others morons when they can't spell.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:17 | 1366643 Oracle of Kypseli
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Just because Greeks have Zorba attitude and make do with less hard work, fewer drachmas and more dancing and socializing, does not mean that the oligarchs should steal the wealth of the country.

As long as they do not work for the gov., they should do whatever they want. You call it freedom!

As I have posted before, the Greeks are prosperous. The gov is broke because they stole the money.

Yes! Greeks do not pay their taxes. But Americans keep complaining that the 16th amendment voted in the middle of Christmas night during congress recess by American traitor politicians but they are doing nothing. Non sequitur! 

You may know the story of the young man who went to Harvard and came back to his island home. His dad had 5 rooms which he rented for the summer. He told his dad that he can get a loan and build 10 more rooms and he can pay off the loan in ten years and then he can get someone to run the place and after that.. "You will just sit around and do nothing and enjoy life."

Son, I am not doing anything now. I just sit arround. Your mom cleans the rooms and we collect the rents.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 17:52 | 1369113 nicxios
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I live on a Greek island and you don't know shit.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:42 | 1366239 Shell Game
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Any way they choose there is misery ahead.

Indeed. And for all, eventually. But the question should not be 'what choices do they have (to avoid pain)?'  But rather, what choices can they make which will facilitate honest money, sovereignty and healing?

 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:44 | 1366564 macholatte
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Freedom. Maybe the choice is freedom, which ain't cheap.

 

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:44 | 1366251 Pepe
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May be Greece will be the end of Utopia

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:47 | 1366256 Sam Clemons
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Right.  After reading this article and the slow motion train wreck in Greece for over a year, I really am starting to wonder what the Greeks actually want. 

They want their non-productive public jobs to continue to have the same (or increases) pay and pension.  In order to get close to this, the bailout will let the music play with worse pay and benefits for a few more years.

If they want to fight the bailout and default, don't they lose all benefits, pay and jobs?  There is a lack of real production and slow birth rates can't allow them to just create a new the generational ponzi scheme.

I understand hating being enslaved by the banksters, but I just don't understand how they will get what they want (good, high paying, easy jobs for doing nothing) either way.

Maybe I'm missing something...

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:58 | 1366281 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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I don't know why people from the US always go ahead and pay no attention to what people are saying and assume that europeans just want more big government. Have you heard the people in Greece or Spain?? The level of awareness over what lead to this is far greater than the US - that's why there out there stopping it going further. And instead of being squeezed out by austerity maybe, just maybe, those government jobs like fireman, nurse, teacher might be more valued as in a free market economy...

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:51 | 1366414 Sam Clemons
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You are right that I don't speak Greek or Spanish so I don't know.  And I'm not presuming that they want more big government.  I'm presuming that they want THEIR (as in each individual that has to put food on the table for his family) gravy train to continue.  There are probably exceptions like there are here.

However, my guess is that IF the bailout came with no austerity terms, and the next one actually came with a raise in pensions and wage, they would go happily along into debt just like every other person that has been lazy as the result of machines, productivity enhancements, and endless fiat.  The only problem is that few people recognize the population bubble (yes, there is still a lot of land available - but there aren't people willing to WORK the land, and no, I don't advocate killing anyone) these three things have caused. 

It is quite clear that life should have gotten better as machines took over most manual labor for us.  However, it didn't.  Not here in the US or there.  I'm sure everyone here can come up with a different reason why.  So... it could be because people no longer had to do manual jobs to make a living or it is because governments created make-shift jobs to keep people in a what I like to call adult daycare - Western jobs. 

I'd guess if less people had jobs, and accepted that in the former situation, prices should trend lower and free time would be abundant.  The latter situation, free time disappears along with innovation, prices rise and then unemployment also comes around as profit margins collapse. 

I guess I choose the former, but I really don't think most people in the world are ready for that transition because they want to have something, like "work" to take up their time away from their spouses.  Not to mention that no one would be able to stomach the prices of paper assets collapsing as demand collapses to meet true value supply (supply of value/labor is what should dictate demand for every country and individual) for the first time in 1000 years.

Just some random thoughts.

http://thelastcanary.blogspot.com

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:38 | 1366833 Oracle of Kypseli
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The Greek politicians have been hiring gov workers for years, even though there is no need. The ones protesting at this moment are from all walks of life. The gov workers' salaries were cut in half. (No one would like that.) The private sector took this opporunity and cut salaries under the pretext of saving Greece, violating labor law knowing that it will not be enforced, because if they fired them instead they will have to give them severance of one months salary for each year of work. thus forcing them to work for half or quit.

This time the protest is peaceful and they all want the politicians to not pay in full the borrowed money which was divided amomgst the privileged few. Same exact thing in Spain.

But if they vote yes Wednesday to make bond holders whole, Athens will burn and the politicians will be lynched.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:16 | 1366495 Noah Vail
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The people in democracies got what they voted for and don't like it, so they seek scape goats. Don't believe it, then count the number of Senators and MPs for Life in each democracy. The voters send the same ones back every election. Why? Because they deliver the bacon paid for with credit.

 

We, the people, got no one to blame but ourselves, either by action or default.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:58 | 1366282 Shameful
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No i think you got it.  But it's not just Greece.  Everyone wants that (look at Western world), and go figure hucksters promised it to them, but they just needed to write a few checks in their name.  So the suckers want the good times to go on forever when they are to dumb to realize they got taken in the first place. 

The mass man doesn't want anything fixed, just wants to go back to the blissful dream he was promised and would do anything to do so.  In his heart he still feels like that magic world he was promised is a real place and will do anything to go back to it.  This includes selling their children into slavery or sending them screaming into the abattoir.  All the better birth rates are down so not even a emotional choice for many, it's a strangers child who will pay after all.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:02 | 1366609 macholatte
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not picking on you, Shameful, just a comment that is often made ......

to single out the "western world" is a huge mistake. Take ANY race, color creed or national origin and put that family in the place of a so called westerner (which is really where all the third world wants to be) and what do you get, the same thing. It's human nature. Only about 8%-12% of the people are self motivators, innovators, leaders, drivers; about 30%-35% are productive and the remaining 50% are truely sheep.... and that's global. Look at any society or organization.

 

The mass man doesn't want anything fixed, just wants to go back to the blissful dream he was promised and would do anything to do so.  In his heart he still feels like that magic world he was promised is a real place and will do anything to go back to it. 

 Oh to be 4 years old again.

 

George Washington, as a boy, was ignorant of the commonest accomplishments of youth. He could not even lie.
Mark Twain
Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:01 | 1366289 BigJim
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No, that pretty much sums it up.

The Greeks - like pretty much every other Western populace - have been so dumbed down by Keynesianisms that they have completely forgotten the connection between productivity and wealth.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:01 | 1366291 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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I don't know why people from the US always go ahead and pay no attention to what people are saying and assume that europeans just want more big government. Have you heard the people in Greece or Spain?? The level of awareness over what lead to this is far greater than the US - that's why there out there stopping it going further. And instead of being squeezed out by austerity maybe, just maybe, those government jobs like fireman, nurse, teacher might be more valued as in a free market economy...

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:20 | 1366513 Noah Vail
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So when is the last time a nurse, fireman or teacher produced something to eat, or to build a house with for the fireman to put out a fire?

No production = no eat = you die.

Now what part of death don't ya'll understand?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:01 | 1366292 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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I don't know why people from the US always go ahead and pay no attention to what people are saying and assume that europeans just want more big government. Have you heard the people in Greece or Spain?? The level of awareness over what lead to this is far greater than the US - that's why there out there stopping it going further. And instead of being squeezed out by austerity maybe, just maybe, those government jobs like fireman, nurse, teacher might be more valued as in a free market economy...

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:44 | 1366385 three chord sloth
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Very nice synopsis, Sam.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:59 | 1366396 Reptil
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At first glance your post seems logical. But it isn't because the facts don't match up.

Of course the greek government since the coup in the seventies has been living beyond their means. They plundered the country. Corruption and cronyism also means you bribe the ones below you (they don't threaten since the generals gave the seats up). The very same is happening in all western countries, but as a more subtle event. It's often disguised as "privatisation", and it happens slowly and with all kinds of "reasonable" arguments. The dismantlement of the social democratic structures.

The key is that the huge debt was not run up by the "little people", the farmers, the clerks the teachers the workers, the busdrivers. Of course they contributed, life for them seems to be like that and they've accepted that, simply because they couldn't change it. However, with the EU came a new hope, a new idea, that it doesn't have to be like this. That there is a way to run a society towards a different goal, than into the ground. But with the EU came money. And NONE of the EU politicians and banks wanted to listen to the bean-counters, the accountants that did not even wanted to sign off on the budgets, because of the huge holes. The burocratic morons in Brussels got enamoured by the big bucks themselves, and voluntarally ran up debt. They stonewalled whistleblowers, still do, and create a larger and larger "empire" of cronyism every day. We know because the northern countries weren't as corrupt, still are not, and we've been paying attention. But there was no need to take action because there were guarantees that we would not take on the debt created by private banks, and our governernments prevented real acction.

http://www.europa-nu.nl/id/vgvhl34mprlc/nieuws/voorzitter_eu_rekenkamer_...

http://knack.rnews.be/nl/actualiteit/nieuws/europa/klokkenluider-geeft-e...

http://www.europa-nu.nl/id/vhdjk0y9vqzh/nieuws/klokkenluider_ad_bos_rich...

So the ones that pumped billions into a half functioning democracy that was Greece, are just as much a contributing force in this whole game. But pretend surprise suddenly and now they're going in for the kill. What they push is a "solution" which is not really a solution. It will totally paralise what's left of the greek economy. And then, in a year or so, they'll come for the rest. Moreover, since it's not a functional plan, this really will become a two edged sword: The countries that now try to "fix the problem" out of fear of contagion and losses, in the north, will be next. Because the negative balance sheet will be in their name too. The politicians now finally, suddenly grasped this (Germany, Netherlands), and are backpaddleling like crazy, even suggesting the 2010 bailout is somehow illegal, but try to prevent a "credit event" on their watch.

Do you get the trick now? The same thing they pulled in Argentina, which was a rich, functioning democracy with a thriving economy and healthy exports. And they crippled it, because of "their people" inside a corrupt government. NOT because the state ran up too much debt, or that the people are too communist thinking or something like that. That's total nonsense, it may be true but has got nothing to do with the problem, or how to solve it.

In a nutshell, the intention of the owners of the private banks that supplied the loans, created the euros, because of the lax attitude of the EU system watchdogs and controllers, is NOT to find a solution, rather to corner the people of a country, because they allowed their corrupt leaders to run up debt. And now threaten to throw the currency itself in front of the debt bus. Their goal is not to find a solution, their goal is to make as much money as possible, and once down that road of stuffing corrupt cronies with wads of euros, there's no other way than to follow up.

So, the only thing left now is to default. And the government is indeed out of touch with the people, if they think they can still push it through. That greek farmer, shopowner, or busdriver knows it's the end of the line. Win or lose. So do people in other mediterranean countries. When push comes to shove, there needs to be a REAL solution, otherwise they'll not agree.

Haircut time.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:06 | 1366455 Sam Clemons
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Right.  I don't think I missed the mark too much despite your opening comment.  I know the lenders are guilty, and it is quite easy to recognize their scheme of lending fake money into existence.  It is the same scheme in the US, get the peasants - especially government employed peasants addicted to the fiat debt while eroding the actual economy, and then when the lenders threaten to pull the plug a lot of the peasants begin to recognize that their job doesn't actually have value (I'm not talking about busdrivers or teachers, I'm talking bureaucrats), that there aren't many "real" jobs left in the private economy, and they will come back like fiends for more fiat debt.

The borrower becomes servant to the lender.

I'm all for default.  Make the bankers eat it.  People just have to know it will be a long hard road ahead.  Not only to rebuild, but to fight off fiat bankers and their ilk until the end of time.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:39 | 1366542 Reptil
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Yeah sorry, that's my way. I oppose shit. Find shit to oppose. Oppose the hell out of it. Must be celtic genes, also would explain sudden thirstyness for beer sometimes. Like now, but it's 3 AM so I'll ignore it. ;-)

Indeed a simular trick is being pulled in the USA.
I think the KEY to that strategy is that they do this in staged events. The events are in a logic followup to each other, related, but timed in such a way (years) that the ordinary people, and even the participants like elite who recieve money, can't really put 1+1 together.

1. APPRECIATION FASE: investments on a massive scale, preferred in a different currency than that of the recipients, aimed at a specific part of the country (industry, politicians, sometimes defence) The goal is to create a foothold.

2. PILLAGE FASE continuous stream of money, but now the industry is being dismantled, jobs outsourced, foreign defence contracts (bases) built and secured, technology that makes the country dependent of a third party put into place. The GOAL is then to cripple the abillity of the country to compete, independently, but to maintain a sense of "everything is going better" on the street and in the offices while sucking it dry. This could take years. The country is now part of a "global community" even when it's lost it's positive trade balance by now, and every hope to regain it.

3. RETRIBUTION/AUSTERITY FASE then after a few years the country or countries are not "investment opportunities" anymore, but deadbeats who are not productive and have a negative trade balance. Suddenly all kinds of things come to light. When that happens usually there's a shift in political leadership as well. The new leaders will instead of pamper to the industrialists and ruling elite, now adress the middle class (if any) and workers. At that moment all kinds of skeletons of the previous government will come rolling out of the closet. Nasty or stupid money deals, or just plain old corruption. The new government promises they'll try to fix it, and put austerity measures on people. Logical, it seems, since there's no more money. Past opportunities to build or expand a functioning industry and economy are then long forgotten. If possible the pillaging continues, invariably to fix the debt.

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These practices take place all around the world, especially the western world. NO place is safe, because this is a supranational thing. The money suppliers have limitless access to cash, since they provide liquidity, and will flip a country like the USA (who is next) from lender to borrower in a very short timespan. Wars are a great way to run up debt. NONE of this is new. At some time, somewhere, someone figured it out, and since then the danger is there. If a country has a gold backed currency, that simply has to be robbed, depleted or even borrowed out (like in the case of Germany now), before fase 1 and 2 can commence, but often is kept in the public eye, to ease concerns. Corruption of the higher levels of government is key. This corruption will seep trough the country, paralising everything. Once done it's time for a new game, and the wounded country can either try to get up again (Argentina) or will be left to die (Japan).

so, yes, we agree. :-)

end.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:42 | 1366724 Sam Clemons
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Don't forget using pop stars like Lady Gaga to convince the youth that they are beautiful no matter if they are brain dead drunken robots or not.

Remember that no one is more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free individuals.

That is why democracy tricked everyone for so long.  People actually thought they had a say.  Inventors actually thought they got something back for dumping their genius onto humanity.  Instead people were just pawns, and those brilliant, hard working people's inventions were bought off with a few clicks of a button on a banker's computer.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/lady-gaga-the-illuminati-puppet/

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 04:31 | 1367107 Reptil
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no one is more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free individuals

 

And that is it, in a nutshell.

And people that have had dictatorship recently, Greek or Spanish, they know perhaps what to avoid.

The modern northern west? Not so much. Complacency and arrogance. It's all ok, until suddenly, it's not. And then ppl. will ask: "How the fuck did that happen?" And the answer will be "YOU agreed to it some years ago, moron, because you kept your mouth shut."

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 02:00 | 1366995 dolly madison
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"I understand hating being enslaved by the banksters, but I just don't understand how they will get what they want (good, high paying, easy jobs for doing nothing) either way."

Isn't that what we are all facing soon?  When this all crashes, we will all have to become self sufficient again, at least for a time.


Tue, 06/14/2011 - 23:01 | 1369839 ambrosiac
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Ehm...  calling HOAX on the tunnel story.

 

There may well be tunnels under the Parliament building...  but if you believe there is a six-mile one all the way to Piraeus I shall be very glad to sell it to you.

Wed, 06/15/2011 - 02:55 | 1370128 hpro123
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I also think the idiot that reported it (pic in the video screen) is making things up as he usually does. Sensationalism at its best! BUT...

... I know there IS a six-mile tunnel all the way to Piraeus. Let me restate that.. I KNOW there is more than one tunnels connecting downtown Athens to several of the outskirts of the city. In my adventurous youth I have even walked on for 3 miles leading near a northeast suberb (Papagou). If you beliece you can sell tehm to me I would love to buy them! :-)

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 18:55 | 1366122 WilliamShatner
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Go underground, bitchez!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 18:56 | 1366130 Money Squid
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Escape tunnels, bitchez!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:03 | 1366143 The Fonz
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I know when I am trying to enslave people I gots some tunnels built just in case.  I gots tunnels all over the place man. I gots tunnels for border crossings, and for strippers in birthday cakes. I gots tunnels for booze and boxes of gold. I got me a tunnel that goes straight to the gates of heaven where tha man tells me how it's to be done!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:20 | 1366178 InconvenientCou...
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I hate to break it to you fonz, that tunnel going down isn't going to heaven.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:49 | 1366567 Reptil
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lol

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:18 | 1366792 knukles
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LOL

Fucking functional, that.  Hiring foreigners to prep the escape tunnel shown on the telly to avoid the electorate when unemployment is through the moon.

Was Franz Kafka Greek?

 

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 00:18 | 1366891 HungrySeagull
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LOLZ.

The big fat greek tragety unfolding in a tunnel publicly in full view on the world's media.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 07:59 | 1367243 Mr Kurtz
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Maybe the proles should have a few guillotines lined up when the scurrying scum bags come pouring out of the tunnel. C'est la vie, bitchez!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 18:54 | 1366126 CrashisOptimistic
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None of this matters.  Until bullets start going into brains, nothing is going to change.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:17 | 1366179 Reese Bobby
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This no time for rosy optimism...

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:56 | 1366429 WonderDawg
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Thanks, dude, I needed that. Scrolling along all somber and then, BAM, a direct hit on the funny bone. Nicely done.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 18:58 | 1366129 bigdumbnugly
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i was thinking maybe another Thermopylae moment.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:09 | 1366150 cougar_w
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Yes, the subjugation of the Athenians is proceeding splendidly.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:00 | 1366131 HamyWanger
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Hilarious. The PigMen will always find ways to escape. 

So will US Treasuries. The more sovereign turmoil there is, the more the rate on the 10yr seems to drop... while gold and silver get dumped in priority by the 'risk managers'. 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 18:58 | 1366134 TheGoodDoctor
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Just in time for the remaining POMO.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:05 | 1366138 topcallingtroll
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I am really confused

Ok hamy you quit being funny faux troll and have now become a real troll, unless you are a fake of a fake.  Wasn't the original Hamy Wanger with a space between the names?  Are you now the fake HamyWanger faking the Hamy Wanger who faked Harry Wanger?  AKA known as Dona K?

By the way I do remember this specific HamyWanger here said that there would never be a default on Greek debt.  A less than voluntary "reprofiling" is a default.  Are you still so confident that there will be no default?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:04 | 1366142 HamyWanger
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I am the only HamyWanger. The true, the beginning and the end. 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:08 | 1366148 topcallingtroll
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Ok HamyWanger you are under oath.  Do you swear you still have no doubt that there will not be a greek default?  Do you agree that a less than voluntary restructuring is a default?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:14 | 1366153 HamyWanger
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There will be no restructuring, not even a "mild, soft, voluntary" restructuring. Nothing. 

I engage my personal credibility with this statement and I have not lost any centimeter on my position. 

The few lunatic, silverbug, nerdy libertarian rednecks who believe Greece is going to default are going to have their ass handed over in a plate, with parsley and salt. 

Greece is fine and will always stay that way

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:18 | 1366175 topcallingtroll
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So norway is going to make a killing on their greek bonds eh?  If I can remember your statement in a couple of years after several more gallons of booze and a couple of ounces of pot then I will taunt you with your statement, whatever it was.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:17 | 1366181 HamyWanger
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Greece is already witnessing an enormous and incredible economic recovery. You can't see it yet, but it's happening. I have local contacts on the ground who confirm shipping activity is picking up. 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:27 | 1366211 topcallingtroll
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I really hope you are right.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:03 | 1366301 BigJim
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You guys make a really cute double act.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:50 | 1366582 Reptil
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Of course a country like Greece got lots of potential. It's just a question of who will reap the benefits. If Greece defaults it will be the greek people and future investors. If they don't it will be the banks that rained euros and CDS on it in the last decade.

win or lose, one thing is certain: they're totally insolvent right now.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 01:44 | 1366624 macholatte
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something tells me that no matter what, the American tax payer is going to lose, lose , lose.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 04:48 | 1367119 Reptil
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There's still a chance of a revolution before the shackles finally close. let's say 2%

There's still a chance that will be non-violent. let's say half of that.

There's still a chance that intelligent men with good intentions pick up the pieces and swing that the right way. Let's say 10% of that?

There's still a chance that with that positive vibe, the americans will suddenly come to their senses and start living modestly, and build a brandnew industry of sustainable kick ass energy and transportation. let's say also 10%

0.02 x 0.5 x 0.10 x 0.10 = 0,0001 that's rather good, don't you say? better than the odds of Japan not turning into a wasteland of diseased mutated animals and people that fall apart slowly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:50 | 1366253 nmewn
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"I have local contacts on the ground who confirm shipping activity is picking up."

And you paid what for this information?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:40 | 1366382 cosmictrainwreck
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Hamy...you still da Man... bringing us the "inside scoop", the "alternative viewpoint" an' all that...........

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:29 | 1366536 Noah Vail
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Yeah, between Somalia and Yemen, New York and Bruxelles.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:33 | 1366694 Hulk
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For Spalding's sake, please use the /sarc tag Hamy...

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:21 | 1366793 Calmyourself
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Leo, posting in the threads again.. I suppose Chinese solar production ramping up in Athens anytime now. I skipped Hamy once he started to lose his sarcastic edge and transitioned to whatever the hell he and the texas douchenozzle transitioned into.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 02:36 | 1367025 hpro123
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Hamy,

 

I really do not know what your "contacts on the ground" may be but...

 

... we are ON THE GROUND - literally- and I can honestly offer you a free but valuable advice:

 

GET RID OF YOUR GROUND CONTACTS! Things here are way worse than depicted in the media, be it mainstream or ZH.

 

You honest Greek contact!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:23 | 1366192 LudwigVon
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If you meet this discription: lunatic, silverbug, nerdy, libertarian, redneck, believe Greece is going to default; are going to have their ass handed a plate (1), with parsley and salt (optional?). 

 

 

Might as well mail me the plate now then.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:27 | 1366805 knukles
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Hamy,
OK.  Here's the bet.
No Greek default/restructuring as you say in any shape or form whatsofuckingever and you stay and post.
Any breach of said covenant, you never darken our doors again.  No more postings, no more ramblings, no changing your avatar and name.  You go away.
Now what you say? 
Wanna soften your position?
Hedge your Zero Hedge bet?

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 02:03 | 1366997 AnAnonymous
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What a US type bet. Very nice. Very representative. Guy said to take all risks for nothing, US citizens get everything for nothing. Guy gains nothing he has not already have. US loses nothing they have. Guy loses everything. US gains everything.

A US story.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:17 | 1366172 eatthebanksters
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As long as you're not Cumbawumba!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 18:56 | 1366132 Blano
Blano's picture

Just find the end of the tunnel.  Problem solved.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:24 | 1366194 High Wire
High Wire's picture

"Our escape is through a long airless, unlit tube that everyone in town (and now the world) knows about."

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:07 | 1366302 BigJim
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"What can go wrong?"

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:39 | 1366240 el Gallinazo
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The end of the tunnel will have a thousand soldiers with automatic weapons and live ammo, hand picked for their sadistic nature.  Get real.  What do you think armies are for?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:36 | 1366548 Rick64
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Time for some Guy Fawkes style justice.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 18:56 | 1366133 firefighter302
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"Government that seems increasingly detached from its own people".

Seems to be a lot of this going around the globe. 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:03 | 1366135 Rider
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So the freaking criminals most hide from the people they "represent" because they know they are casting a Judas kiss vote, betraying the very people they represent with every decision they make.

The good thing is, all twisted politicians who sell their own people for a dragma are there in Greece.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:04 | 1366136 cougar_w
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Hitler tried a bunker.

Just say'n.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:06 | 1366144 topcallingtroll
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Hitler didn't have a long enough tunnel.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:50 | 1366410 SilverDosed
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Or did he?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:36 | 1366701 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Disclaimer: LONG long-tunnels

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:44 | 1366841 WaterWings
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Long Charles Bronson, Steve McQueen, James Garner and Richard Attenborough.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:01 | 1366137 Crawdaddy
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Whoa! And I was expecting the Greek Pols to have a "We are Sparta" moment. Such are men of infamy.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:02 | 1366140 dcb
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george washing and the other members of the colonies who defied King george were declared guilty of treason. there is a time when armed revolt is the honorable thing to do. this is one one of them.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:07 | 1366145 IdioTsincracY
Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:09 | 1366151 topcallingtroll
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There should be a lot of greeks out protesting.  It is a work day.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 02:44 | 1367029 hpro123
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Definitely! It goes like that:

 

Official unemployment rate: ~ 15%

Unofficial unemployment rate (but from Official lips): ~ 21%

You can expect anywhere from 750,000 to 1,100,000 unemloyed people to be on the streets. Anything below this number would be a complete failure for the unemployed!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:07 | 1366146 fonestar
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Block the port, drown them.  String them up like El Duce.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:12 | 1366157 Iconoclast
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Spartan army, go to war!!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:13 | 1366158 Eireann go Brach
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1800-call a sniper is booked solid for June 15th!....

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:13 | 1366159 Yperkeimenos
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A historical moment indeed,if the Greeks succeed then not only do they stop the pillaging of their country but prevent it from becoming a law precedent,within the E.U., for other countries as well.Should they fail, the looting by the bankers will go and on and it will be much more difficult for anyone else to stop them.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:11 | 1366161 rockraider3
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Wouldn't they have to be pretty stupid to use this tunnel now that it's been reported that they are intending to use it and have had foreign workers making it ready?  Wouldn't you think that folks have a decent idea of where to camp out at the exit points... Or that someone would pay-off a foreign worker for some information on the route or access to the tunnel?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:13 | 1366171 topcallingtroll
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I wouldn't go down there.  A crowded tunnel full of politicians would be too tempting to the anarchists.  The Americans poured gasoline into pacific island caves and tunnels in the fight with the japanese.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:32 | 1366365 Hedgetard55
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Do you know the story of Fort Drum in the PI?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:21 | 1366182 cougar_w
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We wonder, who gets to play Ephialtes this time around?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:22 | 1366197 youngman
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Who is writing this story down for the future..and drawing all those nice little pictures...that is what is important.....

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:11 | 1366164 THE DORK OF CORK
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Its one thing to intellectualize a Orwellian Nightmare in your little head but to see the true nature of this plague is quite a revelation no matter how cynical you were before the outbreak.

I don't mind saying this but I am scared shitless.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:32 | 1366224 Piranhanoia
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Do we stay with the way it is until it snaps?  Is it going to be a reasonsed approach or chaos as we unwind?  Will we burn first, or rebuild first?  So many of the answers are as bad as the question, but we are forcing everything on the planet to deal with rapidly rising radiation that, with a little more help, sets our self destruct sequence clock with no code available to cancel it. Imagine every government using fission as power not having a plan to deal with the most dangerous part of it after use? None do yet.  Embrace agrarian bitches,  while you can. 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:09 | 1366312 BigDuke6
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It is bleak indeed.

Surely as a paddy what should be scaring you is the book of revelations which talks about the control of buying and selling.  Here it is.

Or the predictions of the priest Malachi? 

http://2012-end-of-the-earth.com/predictions_article.php?predictions_id=6

My father loves this stuff and is going bananas just now.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:49 | 1366401 jomama
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dare i say we are lucky as a human race that a dirty bomb hasn't gone off somewhere by now?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:37 | 1366830 knukles
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While bluster may well serve the end of allowing the peasantry to vent, my own predilection is that one definitely does not wish for messy outcomes alluded to as such.  While it may seem at times dismally improbable to achieve desired effects, peaceful means nonetheless remain the tool of rational men.

It has indeed, become scary. 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:15 | 1366165 Xibalba
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can you dribble a grenade?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:33 | 1366207 topcallingtroll
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Grenade in a closed tunnel has its effect magnified.  I wouldn't get in that tunnel after a vote.  I would just hide in the bathroom.  Maybe I just wouldn't show up to work that day if I were a greek politician.

 

"Seriously I really needed to shit and just happened to stop by.  I didn't vote today.  I promise!"

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:59 | 1366594 Reptil
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neh... one molotov coctail is enough. remember no air ducts!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:11 | 1366167 InconvenientCou...
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oh hell yes.

Reminds me of a gopher hole and the charred gopher that called it home. But I digress.

ZH ++

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:54 | 1366265 Believable-Hypocrite
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 The movie Caddy Shack. Carl Spackler aka Bill Murray did the job on him.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:16 | 1366170 Eireann go Brach
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Hamy Wanger is Tyler..just stirring up the natives for entertainment purposes!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:28 | 1366204 topcallingtroll
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I am pretty confident hamy is not tyler.  but I do strongly suspect he is Dona K.

Tyler reads most of the comments I suspect, but he doesn't waste his time stirring the pot.  He has plenty of volunteers for that.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:09 | 1366304 equity_momo
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I think hamy is robotrader actually.  the problem with trolls is that theyre interesting for a very short while and then they need to become born again. theyre a cross between a shooting star , a pile of feces and jesus.  that wasnt a slight at you topcalling , you debate and add to the forum from what ive seen , unlike the one track agenda that is the robotroll.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:17 | 1366173 ILikeBoats
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My heart is with the Greeks, though I think they will fail.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:22 | 1366186 cougar_w
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Hey, but it might earn them yet another Wikipedia entry.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:19 | 1366191 Reese Bobby
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ALL I care about are the topless sunbathers.  Everyone else is an acceptable casualty...

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:30 | 1366209 serotonindumptruck
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"ALL I care about are the topless sunbathers."

Male or female?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:30 | 1366220 topcallingtroll
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If you have to ask then you are gay.

Not that there is anything wrong with it.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:34 | 1366228 serotonindumptruck
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Of course not.

I like me some Greek bitch tits in those cute little speedo marble sack bikinis.

/theghey

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:46 | 1366249 topcallingtroll
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Yes indeed.

 

I like my fruit just fresh enough to pluck from the vine. 

Why wait until it is old and wrinkled and has a funny smell?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:14 | 1366637 Armando Javier ...
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I need help.  What are your office hours?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:19 | 1366177 eatthebanksters
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Doe anyone really think they will all get out through that tunnel without some casualties?

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:18 | 1366183 High Plains Drifter
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The situation here is getting completely out of control. I really don’t know how much longer the people will be willing to wait this thing out. The mood here in Athens is one of intense disillusionment with a government that seems increasingly detached from its own people

a recipe for greek evolution.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:20 | 1366193 Reese Bobby
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You people are always hung over and off balance on Monday.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:50 | 1366575 pods
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The smart ones stopped drinking and started thinking a long time ago.  

pods

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:40 | 1366229 topcallingtroll
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The people don't realize they are fucked and there will be serious suffering no matter what they do.

They will be taught a lesson by the EU, a harsh lesson that will make Argentina look like a cake walk.

The EU must make them suffer horribly if there is a default, otherwise there are several others thinking about their options.

A default guarantees suffering even if the EU didn't try to make it worse.  The Greeks don't realize that no matter what happens they will suffer.

To be honest I think there will probably be less suffering in average if the Greeks simply suck it up and follow the EMU ECB and German plan, assuming there is one.

 

However I am looking forward to a bunch of amateur cheap prostitutes next time I visit Greece.  Nothing better than a young girl who has just started in the business.  She hasn't had time to catch anything serious yet.  It is always best to be the first customer.  What you do is go to a place where you know people are tempted, then make some offers to girls who are not actually working as a prostitute.  Many will do it (as well as a porn flick) for kicks as well as more cash than they can make in a month.  It is fun to see if you can convince a young girl who has never prostituted herself to have sex for money.  I enjoy the psychology of the whole thing, plus I am a nice safe fun guy who pays really well.

I am a troll, but a nice one.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:44 | 1366248 High Plains Drifter
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when things get rough, i don't think the greek police will fire on them but somebody might. another words, if they think that some civil disturbing in the street is going to make them free, they have another thing coming. blue helments are coming, there and it will be here soon enough. so we can watch what happens as greece descends into chaos and see how the world government handles it.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:52 | 1366259 topcallingtroll
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yeah they put greek police in jail for firing a bullet that ricoched and killed an anarchist about to throw a gasoline bomb at the police.

There is not a chance the police will put themselves at risk trying to prevent a takeover of the government building.

the police have no faith anyone in government will support them if they have to use force.  Hence they will pretend to use a little force then fall back and allow the takeover.

 

You remember the case don't you?  It was a banker's son who was the anarchist who was killed about to toss a firebomb at the police.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:58 | 1366278 taraxias
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Based on what you been posting, I can guarantee you you were rapped by your father as a child. There's no other explanation....

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:47 | 1366393 jomama
Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:14 | 1366651 Armando Javier ...
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His father taught him rap?  You need another rap on your head.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 22:37 | 1366710 Armando Javier ...
Armando Javier Finkeltein of the Boise Finkelsteins's picture

His father taught him rap?  You need another rap on your head.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:00 | 1366275 taraxias
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Aaaah, no, you are a clueless psychopath, more so than a troll but who am I to argue.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:01 | 1366277 Pepe
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yeah you are a troll

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:14 | 1366330 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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everyone's talking about gold, silver, and agriculture as the big opportunities - what about crime and prostitution? Here in London there slasing the police budget...so I'm seriously looking round to see what I might make a move for if the lights go out. I'm interested in a SUV to load up. Once the SHTF I'll knock on the door of a suburban housewife and threaten her with a baseball bat (the people don't have guns here!) and take her car, after making her load it up with all her goodies!

As for the prostitution game, there will be a rush of young girls onto the markt thats for sure. Most pimps will be immigrants - that might be unsavoury to the locals here. So maybe I'll find something for myself as a well spoken english man, someone the baby boomers can trust to hand over well picked, clean ass. Of course all my girls will be well pyschologically broken down first and will consider themselves lucky to hand me 70% of their earnings...

In short, he who has less morals may stand to profit the most when TSHTF... 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:57 | 1366431 SilverDosed
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Weak, real pimps dont get a percentage unless its 100%.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:28 | 1366526 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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fine if you want to stay a pimp, but I'm building a business empire and slaves are less productive than wage slaves

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:09 | 1366474 WonderDawg
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Cool, I can keep my morals intact and yet vent my rage by killing the kind of asshole you just described. Best of both worlds.

 

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:42 | 1366560 zaknick
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Damn well said.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:52 | 1366590 pods
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Something tells me that you will be one of the first to be taking the eternal dirtnap.  

pods

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:15 | 1366484 Reese Bobby
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Your character and soul need a tune up.  I am rooting for you...

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:19 | 1366187 Shameful
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So they can leave in style!  Just goes to show when you are pillaging it's good to plan ahead.  And why wouldn't the politicians vote against the interest of their people?  Being a politician means you have the Divine Right of Pillage.  Anything you want is yours and neither the laws of God or man will restrain you.  Least in the old days they maned up and actually claimed divinity instead of this will of the people lie.  But unlike the old days they have to pass the Divine Right of Pillage around so game theory says to loot as much as fast as possible, it will only get faster as more and more things become unglued.  Each looter wants to get the loot and scram and not be the one with fingers pointed that them.

Hell if we had hereditary kings and purely autocratic rule at least the pillage might be a bit more restrained.  More afraid of the people in Saudi Arabia then in the so called free democracies of the West.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:25 | 1366195 Alea Iacta Est
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Tyler,
You may have seen this already, I haven't had a chance to browse every article fully today. The San Francisco Fed has come out with an interesting take on Euro Policy (re: Taylor Rule) concerning Core vs. Peripheral states. Just more evidence that the EU is a joke and the whole thing is likely to come apart at the seams eventually.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43383879

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:27 | 1366210 Tyler Durden
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Yes, was noted earlier. More good use of taxpayer money -> San Fran Fed Field Marshal Obvious papers

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 21:30 | 1366532 Reese Bobby
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Should the EU have admitted Turkey when they had the chance?  It could have been a game changer?

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 05:46 | 1367152 falak pema
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More likely a two tier euro system. This single economic paradigm on voluntary nation state basis, for two asymmetric economic zones, is unsustainable. Either EU zone goes federal, which will NOT happen for another twenty years at least...Or, the system moves to a two tier interim before fiscal cum cultural barriers fall over time; Or it explodes in next five years. No other choices.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:26 | 1366199 Piranhanoia
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Trying to escape through a tunnel that everyone knows about, and being cleaned out, everyone knowing why, Brilliant!  Nothing easier to control than a tunnel exit.  And the persons at that end waiting would know why someone was coming....   Which is is suits?  The choice appears to be life or death. Pick one.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 20:11 | 1366320 BigJim
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I guarantee that tunnel is just a diversion... the real tunnel remains a secret.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 23:14 | 1366774 Dave Thomas
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The real scary tunnels have Minotaur at the end. Yikes!

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:28 | 1366206 Yancey Ward
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The Greeks had better prepare their "evacuation tunnels", too, with some good ole "Rectal Block", which Billy Mays will sell to them at the low, low price of 19.95.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:34 | 1366213 uranian
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meanwhile britain plans the biggest general strike of a generation. shaping up to be an interesting week.

 

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 19:35 | 1366233 oogs66
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you sure this wasn't the 3rd episode of the borgias?  oh wait, different channel, different time, same story :)

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